The Syndicate

Golden wrote:

Golden wrote:Matt - in respect of your grand quest - do the words 'avatar of maligna' mean anything to you?

Matt ^^

S~V~S wrote:I think Sorsha mistrusted mac,and has been annoyed at me since he died, tbh. I think her misplaced trust has led her to jump to false conclusions. And anyone who was aligned with MM would just be stupid to kill Hammy, lol. If anything that looked more like a set up kill to me.

I have to check with LC before I say a few things I would like to say about Mac and about secret roles and what I learned from a little research.

Gonna go with Timmer & TH, also Matt, and I was not sure about the 4th, but Dom for this post:

Dom wrote:SVS DID NOT vote for Luke at all.
SVS ONLY voted for juliets when it was a landslide lynch against her (and she was lynched after many attempts).
SVS was QUICK to vote Floyd.

When he KNOWS how I can be about people I care about like Jules, since it is the same reason I give him the pass all the time. This post is opportunistic in the extreme. Shame, Dom.

fingersplints wrote:Voting for someone doesn't necessarily prove anything. In BoB everyone swore I wasn't on team Webber because of my votes and you know how that turned out

Re:SVS

fingersplints wrote:I think we need to look into other players than those three, so I don't think it is sidetracking.

I voted those three and Dom, because I feel least civvie about Dom outside of three still. I still feel that Golden is still likely a civvie, just wrong like a bunch of us about bass. I've been playing with Golden since his first Mafia game, and he can't fake that tone. I am more paranoid I am wrong about SVS with each passing day, but not enough to abandon that trust. And I still feel ok about MM. Sorsha is also still on my ok list from golden's vouch, but I have to also consider she could be the one he is wrong about.
Everyone else is leaning civvie/neutral/need to revisit

It's hard for me to articulate without rulebreaking. There is some out of thread stuff I need to mull over some.

fingersplints wrote:

Dom wrote:Splints, if you think I'm baddie-- what team am I on?

I don't find suspects based on what team they might be on. I find suspects by what thread actions I find suspicious. I rarely pay attention to "this person is on this team". It's just not how I play.

Also I don't for sure think you are a baddie. But by my process of elimination you are least civvie seeming from what is left. If I had more then 4 options I would have also voted for Lorab, Tranq, and Draconus as I want to revisit all of them too. I'm not a big fan of limiting poll options too much.

Same question to you.

S~V~S wrote:Personally I think, as I said regarding Bass, that letting the Circle entrench further and then handing them the Cabals kill is a bad idea. Especially if Sorsha is wrong about this person.

I am sure about 3 out of 4, not so much the 4th. I need to do some reading today.

Tranq wrote:I agree with that idea.

Matt wrote:Dom, what, you think I should be discussing Timmer when I'm trying to save myself and Timmer isn't even on the poll???

Are you serious?

Anyway, you can say you don't know what I'm talking about, but I've said a lot about you in this game where if you didn't know what I was talking about, you would've said something by now.

But yeah, vote Bass. For real.

Matt wrote:

Dom wrote:

Matt wrote:Oh wait, if it's 4 to 7. Someone moves off me to Bass, then it will be 5 to 6. I can work with that.

I just need one vote! Assuming SVS doesn't change her throwaway vote from Turnip (LOL) to me.

So maybe I do need two.

C'mon civs, let's give town a win here.

do you seriously not know why svs voted TH

She thinks I'm his baddie partner. Oh, the laughter hurts.

Matt wrote:Oh wait, if it's 4 to 7. Someone moves off me to Bass, then it will be 5 to 6. I can work with that.

I just need one vote! Assuming SVS doesn't change her throwaway vote from Turnip (LOL) to me.

So maybe I do need two.

C'mon civs, let's give town a win here.

Matt wrote:Well, I'm civ. But after I get lynched, I think I'm going to root for the baddies. Well played, baddies.

Of my voters, I think Golden and Dom need to go next.

Anyway, go mafia!

Lovely hosts - It was a mighty fine quest, but I don't have the perseverance to continue. Thanks for the fun game!

Matt wrote:

Dom wrote:Matt or Bass... which to vote for... not really sure.

Lol. Dude, nice job this game, Dom. I tried to go to that square you suggested but luckily fate intervened and I was given another quest. Who knows was dastardly trap you had waiting for me.

Nice job, tho, for realz.

Matt wrote:

Sorsha wrote:I'm putting my vote on bass as I did yesterday. I might change depending on how the day plays out, I'm in three games right now and afraid I'm going to mix up lynch times.

How do you feel about Golden knowing the exact number of baddies left?

S~V~S wrote:I think Timmer was being thrown under the bus to save TH. He was the person who needed saving, the person who was NOT lynched via lynch save.

I think it is fairly obvious. You do not?

Linki, I think If *TH* is bad, then so is Matt. I think it likely Timmer is bad, too. But in any case, since Matts guilt is predicated on other peoples, I would rather lynch those other people first. So I am going to vote TH when the poll allows it. A saveof TH makes the most sense to me. The fact that Timmer is off the poll actually makes Matt look better to me, like with Timmeroff the poll Matt would be an obvious choice; a set up.

Bass_the_Clever wrote:Well I'm not bad so that theory is wrong.

S~V~S wrote:

Turnip Head wrote:And how do you come up with Matt and I being teammates? Lol he's been going after me for damn near half the game. Good luck getting that theory to make any sense.

Why not? He voted for Meyalmarsh the last three days,when it might have counted, not for you.

THIS post is all WIFOM, TH.

S~V~S wrote:I think lynching Matt before TH is putting the cart before the horse. The main reason I suspect him is the connection to Timmer, and subsequently to TH. The only person he could have been saving with that list is TH.

Sorsha wrote:

fingersplints wrote:I agree with ^^ a lot of this.
I'm ok with a Bass, Timmer, or TH vote and am still considering Matt. I'm not the best with roles though, so idk who is most important to lynch first.

Ditto to this. It seems like we are all on about the same page here it just comes down to choosing which one.

Long Con wrote:The Trickster is pretty tricky. It's a safe bet that they could pull off a trick like that. But the Trickster couldn't trick you into thinking that a dead team is alive.

How's this for a trick though? Timmer is off the poll today.

Looks like everyone is off the poll today!

S~V~S wrote:In any case, if this is your belief, all the more reason to you for not spilling the list days ago.

Matt wrote:It never crossed my mind to. In fact, most games don't allow you to discuss PMs but I just checked and luckily I don't think I broke any rules because all it says is no reproducing PMs for this one.

And if that's the case, that makes me think we can claim whatever. In that case, I'd like some peeps to spill the beans on stuff they think they know. No more of these "breadcrumbs" as Golden put it, from reading the rules, there's nothing saying we can't discuss what we've found, as long as you don't discuss your map btsc, reproduce PMs, or discuss specific map coordinates.

So, spill.

Matt wrote:Elaborate. What situation doesn't read right? Me having a list and not revealing that? Lorab, who you trust, has had a list two days longer then I have. Or do you mean Turnip getting lynched in place of Timmer? That seems weird to me, too, and considering Timmer's outright neglect to challenge SVS on her accusations of me and him, as well as his own responses to me, make me want to lynch the guy next day phase.

Matt wrote:

timmer wrote:

Matt wrote:

timmer wrote:

Matt wrote:Ummmm okay.

Tim Tim, why was Turnip up for lynch?

I do not know.

Why didn't you refute SVS' claim that we are partners?

How would I have any idea if you are partners with anyone?

What does that mean? I asked you why you didn't refute SVS' claims that we (you and I) are partners?

Dom - Withholding info? Did you not read my response to that question already? I'd like to know, what is your opinion of my affiliation? You think I'm good, bad, or indy? Go.

Turnip Head wrote:I wonder if Bass genuinely doesn't know what the case against him is because he hasn't read :P But boiling it down to being a low poster is inaccurate and no excuse. My biggest concerns with him are still his vaguely justified Canuck vote and now the fact that he won't tell us who he thinks is bad except to NO U Sorsha.

Sorsha wrote:In other news: Is no one suspicious of Bass anymore? It seems like he drops in here and there to vote and leave some random post but isn't doing much of anything else. I'd think he is a good candidate for the last cabal member?

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Dom wrote:I think I can trust LoRab and think you are very wrong about her.
I do not trust Matt F because he clearly has no idea what he's talking about.
Timmer? I could see. I'm more inclined to think Bass or FS are bad.

I think we should lync timmer, then LoRab, then you.

Matt F wrote:

Dom wrote:SVS-- who are you looking at and why?


Nice to see I didn't die.

That's swell. Man, we could've been the best of friends.

Dom

So you're on Witherdeath, then?

Tranq wrote: Dom, what are your thoughts on LoRab?
LoRab, what are your thoughts on Dom?

Matt F wrote:My bad, 12 hour shift, I'm zonked. Anyway, so what, ya all think Wilgy was Trickster?

Golden, you think the Statue is evil now? I feel like that is a strong possibility, actually, or the Statue is dead.

So I'm going to want to lynch MM again tomorrow probably. Maybe another look at Lorab. And Dom, def Dom.

What does everyone think of Dom?

LoRab wrote:

Golden wrote:In favour of Wilgy being legitimately that role, he was not on the poll until day 4.

But wouldn't he have taken himself off this lynch? when odds were strongly in favor of him being next to be voted?

fingersplints wrote:And he didn't mention me for a few days, but those were also the days of my absence. It halfway like most everything I say has been returned with an eye since that initial post I pointed out.

Also he said I was lying after I said he was on my ass since I questioned whether he was a civvie. We can debate all we want how much he was on my ass but the point still stands he didn't have a problem with me when I was defending him earlier. Only once I started questioning him did I seem "contrived"

fingersplints wrote:Repeating I am lying does not make it true. I'm not sure what I was supposed to make off the tone of your posts like this one if it wasn't you suspect me.

fingersplints wrote:Because you don't say "you are my suspect" doesn't mean you can't indicate suspicion. I'm not lying or rewriting anything. Everyone can read the posts for themselves. I think it is absolute BS for you to say you weren't suspicious of me until day 8 though.