The Syndicate

juliets wrote:

Dom wrote:

Long Con wrote:

Dom wrote:

Black Rock wrote:I'm going to start slapping these early self voters.

I might vote one of them tbh.

Oh yeah! MM also has my eye for his opportunistic self-vote.

Do you think this might indicate that he is bad? Does your experience with Metalmarsh point to this?

juliets wrote:

Long Con wrote:

Dom wrote:

Black Rock wrote:I'm going to start slapping these early self voters.

I might vote one of them tbh.

Oh yeah! MM also has my eye for his opportunistic self-vote.

Me too. I can't abide people voting for themselves early and expecting us to take them seriously as civs.

"us"?

us = others playing the game that feel the same way I do.

So, not the civvies as a whole?
Please, answer honestly.

Long Con wrote: Dom, I'm going to make an assumption here. You're looking to suggest that juliets meant "her baddies teammates" maybe?

Nope.

Golden wrote:Dom got my eye for it too... it's a big stretch.

Woah woah woah.

That's not even what I was getting at.

Nice HUGE jump in conclusions, there Golden, with ZERO evidence behind you.

blindfaeth wrote:

Golden wrote:Dom got my eye for it too... it's a big stretch.

That and he posted like three times in the other current game day 1. "hi everyone" "raise ur hand if ur bad", why is this dom so drastically different?

*anyone but me anyone but me anyone but me*

Long Con wrote:

Dom wrote:

Black Rock wrote:I'm going to start slapping these early self voters.

I might vote one of them tbh.

Oh yeah! MM also has my eye for his opportunistic self-vote.

Do you think this might indicate that he is bad? Does your experience with Metalmarsh point to this?

juliets wrote:

Long Con wrote:

Dom wrote:

Black Rock wrote:I'm going to start slapping these early self voters.

I might vote one of them tbh.

Oh yeah! MM also has my eye for his opportunistic self-vote.

Me too. I can't abide people voting for themselves early and expecting us to take them seriously as civs.

"us"?

Black Rock wrote:I'm going to start slapping these early self voters.

I might vote one of them tbh.

What the hell am I supposed to even post at this point?

S~V~S wrote:Juliets. I was suspicious of BF before the info thing. Personally I doubt he knows the ID of the millionaire unless it is his teammate. I think maybe he's trying to bait the item stealers, one of whom is a civ and one an Indy.

I thought he was suspish before any of that. The excessive buddying plus the refusal to mention just who had pinged him until day started even though there were no night powers in play.

His whole general presentation has felt bad to me pretty much from the get go.

I have to reread what MP said when not on phone. His outrage and indignation at being suspected is becoming kinds passe, he does it every game it seems to me, good or bad.

This is how I've been reading MP as well. It's like no one's allowed to question anything anymore. I asked MP to reconcile two opposing statements and he exploded. Honestly, that's getting old.


TBH I'm not sure how I'm feeling about Blindfaeth. Half of me thinks he's bad, and the other half wants to give him the BTOD.
Bullz, I'm feeling good about right now.

MovingPictures07 wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:I'm voting myself. What a load of crock.

Metalmarsh89 would be so proud of you.

I know he would, and I know how ironic this is of me, but seriously, this is insane. I said I didn't mind answering BR's question, because I didn't, but if people actually want to vote for me on Day 1 because I posted 6 minutes later, construing it as "OMG BTSC LOL" and yet offered an absolutely sensible explanation for my posts, then I will respond to that absurdity with some of my own.

MP-- I asked you to reconcile two opposing thoughts you posted and instead of doing that you flew off the handle and screamed that it wasn't fair you were being suspected.

Just wondering what your answer would be-- thanks.

BF, I'm not asking you TO name drop, but I am asking you why you are not name dropping from your information.

MovingPictures07 wrote: Dom, I'm not mad at you or anyone else, don't worry, that'd be silly of me. I understand BR's observation, and I understand why she wants me to respond. My response is forthcoming:

MovingPictures07 wrote:I really can't deal with a nonsensical suspicion of me in a game yet again, so if this reasoning actually gets momentum, I would love to bow out and just get lynched Day 1 so that I don't have to worry about it.

MP, please reconcile these posts. You 180'd on your thoughts on BR's find with little reason other than it's inconvenient to do otherwise. If you can offer more of an explanation for that, it'd be great.


Just because you don't like that it's being brought up doesn't mean it is nonsensical. It actually makes sense, and for you to say otherwise forces me to read you as dismissive and unwilling to deal with truths.

Does no one else have thoughts on MP's posts?

Turnip Head wrote:Dom, can you talk a little bit about why you chose the Promissory Note item on Day 0?

It was something that caught my eye, had no votes, and note made me think Info.... I was wrong on that count.

blindfaeth wrote:

Dom wrote:

blindfaeth wrote:

Dom wrote:

blindfaeth wrote:SVS, I always buddy with golden. He is my bestie, get over it. Why does the fact I ignored your comment bothering you? I didn't feel the need to address it.

What if Golden is bad?
What if you are bad?

Golden does not seem to have the same blind faith ( ) in you. Does that bother you?

blindfaeth wrote:Dom, I was not suspicious of you because I was taking my first suspicion and overlapping it with who was worried about my item. Which turned out to be them both IMO.

Why did you not react whatsoever to my distrust of you?
Why are you going after only these two?


Golden-- care to answer my question from before?

I don't understand the context of your first questions. I can't believe this gets brought up every game. Golden and I have friendship that transcends mafia. I will objectively listen to his input until I have reason not to trust him. We genuinely enjoy each other's company. Sorry but not sorry.

I've already answered your fourth question. I couldn't care less if you distrust me.

Linki.

You don't understand the context of the questions?
I'm asking why you place blind faith in Golden. Because you like each other is a losing strategy.
I like a lot of people playing but I don't place blind trust in them.

I'm sorry, please point me to the post where I said i trust golden.

If golden is bad, it won't take me long to find out.

"I will objectively listen to his input until I have reason not to trust him. We genuinely enjoy each other's company. Sorry but not sorry."

"until I have reason not to trust him"


"trust him"


Yeah

thellama73 wrote:Hey everyone!
Since we have a little extra time today, let's have a fun game. The roles on the front page need pictures to go along with them. Please submit a picture of your role to me via PM by the end of Night 1. My favorite gets a prize. Please nothing too racist for the Celestials.

how about nothing racist at all???

blindfaeth wrote:

Dom wrote:

blindfaeth wrote:SVS, I always buddy with golden. He is my bestie, get over it. Why does the fact I ignored your comment bothering you? I didn't feel the need to address it.

What if Golden is bad?
What if you are bad?

Golden does not seem to have the same blind faith ( ) in you. Does that bother you?

blindfaeth wrote:Dom, I was not suspicious of you because I was taking my first suspicion and overlapping it with who was worried about my item. Which turned out to be them both IMO.

Why did you not react whatsoever to my distrust of you?
Why are you going after only these two?


Golden-- care to answer my question from before?

I don't understand the context of your first questions. I can't believe this gets brought up every game. Golden and I have friendship that transcends mafia. I will objectively listen to his input until I have reason not to trust him. We genuinely enjoy each other's company. Sorry but not sorry.

I've already answered your fourth question. I couldn't care less if you distrust me.

Linki.

You don't understand the context of the questions?
I'm asking why you place blind faith in Golden. Because you like each other is a losing strategy.
I like a lot of people playing but I don't place blind trust in them.

Golden wrote:What are you thinking Dom?

And before you brush it off, remember... you were demanding answers to your questions, so I expect the same back.

I'm looking at MP and BF.... you're dependent on how BF unfolds.


I suppose MP might be mad at me for this, but BR's point was good.

:hmm:

blindfaeth wrote:SVS, I always buddy with golden. He is my bestie, get over it. Why does the fact I ignored your comment bothering you? I didn't feel the need to address it.

What if Golden is bad?
What if you are bad?

Golden does not seem to have the same blind faith ( ) in you. Does that bother you?

blindfaeth wrote:Dom, I was not suspicious of you because I was taking my first suspicion and overlapping it with who was worried about my item. Which turned out to be them both IMO.

Why did you not react whatsoever to my distrust of you?
Why are you going after only these two?


Golden-- care to answer my question from before?

Golden wrote:I disagree strongly with bullz statement.

I can't remember a time when the person lynched on day one didn't feel it was unfair, no matter what the reason. Day one lynches always suck.

Whats the difference between it being unfair because someone has a hunch that their item is a role hint, and it being unfair because someone sees some minutiae in the thread? I don't see one.

I don't like that it is being made some kind of moral issue. It's a host setting - either it's ok or it isn't. (and my eye is squarely on bullz for his comment).

You did not play GOC14 nor did you play Doctor Who.
You do not know the problem this site has with role outing.
As a trend, role outing has become quite vogue. It has ruined three games outright for me at this point. Please, let's not make it a fourth.

BF did not role out. BF has not broken any rules. I think BF is walking the line. I don't think BF played his cards smartly.

Bullzeye wrote:
Why is your eye not also on Dom for agreeing with me? It's very rare for he and I to agree on anything actually. I've half a mind to check Hell hasn't frozen over.

I pose this question to both Golden and BF. Both have completely ignored me and I'm curious as to why.

blindfaeth wrote:Yes but my point is, the two people I think are suspicious PRIOR to my item are acting in a way I would expect them to if they were worried about me being correct, namely, that I know the identity of their teammate. Bullz and TH can certainly defend against this, don't you agree?

No. I don't.
We have no proof that your original suspect-- whom you have yet to reveal-- is bad. Thus, their baddness is contingent on the result of that lynch.

You are putting the cart before the horse.

Black Rock wrote:I can see now what I saw on Day 0 was not the same as BF. What I saw was this:

MovingPictures07 wrote:Hey folks! Just popping in, haven't read anything yet, and very likely won't have the chance until tomorrow evening after my microeconomic theory seminar midterm, between studying for that and dealing with Death Note.

Yay game! See you soon!

Not at all suspicious.

MovingPictures07 wrote:Thanks, you too, Zomba!

Guess I better pick an item while I'm here. I would have picked the stock certificate, but it seems my fellow accountant beat me to that option. I'll go with the clock.

Now will be back tomorrow to read posts and such!

Until this. For someone who hasn't read anything yet looks like he knew to comeback, pick an item, and be the first to vote on that item. Did his BTSC let him know?

That's what I saw on Day 0.

They are also only six minutes apart-- good catch BR!

Epignosis wrote: And if you are right, blindfaeth, you squandered your opportunity. You should have gone hard after the owner of the will and observed what happened.

This.

Bullzeye wrote:

blindfaeth wrote:No, not role outing. It's an educated guess. All I know is whose will I have and that I get a lot of money when they die. Lots of money sounds like a millionaire to me.

Well if I were that person - regardless of the accuracy of your guess - I would certainly feel outed/infodumped against/unfairly treated.

this tbh

Epignosis wrote:Well, I was going to try to post using quotes, but all the profanity has now tripped my work's "Adult Material" filter. So now I can't read anything further on page 3. I am only able to post this from the quick reply feature on another page of the thread. Thanks rabbit!

Dom, I used the verb tense I did because it made the most sense. Why do you find it odd that there are fewer Day 0 choices than people?

S~V~S isn't an acronym unless you pronounce it "Svvvsss."

llama, I like moving things along.

Because I figured an event like this would give everyone an item.


SVS=Sit Vincent Sit, if you remember from Lostpedia, people.

Epignosis wrote:And I confirmed that just now. blindfaeth's first post in my current game was toward Golden.

Why did you write "confirm" in the simple past tense?
Just curious.

DFaraday wrote:

Golden wrote:Oh, I hadn't even clicked there were less things than people. By my count, rabbit may not be the last to check in either?

Yes, now that I checked, it appears to be 21 items and 25 players.

I just noticed this as well... odd.

I voted.