The Syndicate

I love ya G.

LoRab wrote:Fucking Evil Bastard or Fucking Evil Bitch, as is appropriate for gender.

It is a term of endearment. Sort of.

This is the FEB smiley:

Long con designed it, on my suggestion. I like to say I commissioned it. It was designed after diamond dog, who hasn't played in a really long time.

/mafia history lesson

I miss DD.

Get him to come back. Make Mafia Great Again!

Quin wrote:
Dom wrote:A SIX DAY GOD DAMN BATTLE IWTH QUIN IS SOMETHING I NEVER WANT TO DO AGAIN
You'd better hope I never draw a bad role card again then

I legitimately did think that if I were town, I'd be busting my gut to lynch you - I really do think you looked hella suspicious from the get go. :P

If by get-go, you mean Day 6, then sure.

Sloonei wrote:I look forward to playing with you again whenever possible, Glorf!

^^^

A SIX DAY GOD DAMN BATTLE IWTH QUIN IS SOMETHING I NEVER WANT TO DO AGAIN

GH SHIT

Quin, you were robbed. I'm sorry. If you could get me lynched after the BS you pulled with your tunnel on me for days, you deserved the win.

Dom wrote:Please, if yo uwant to win this game reconsider your votes.

I played a shit game and Quin played masterfully. If he's not bad then someone is fooling me hard. He has tried to end this game early on multiple occasions. Am I assuming the worst case? Yes. I want to win. I want us to win. I am a civvie. People could have searched their feelings earlier in the game and found me, but none did. I truly am alone in this game. You have seen a Dom play like crap.

Now, quin has repeatedly avoided the last two (read: all of them but elohcin) baddie lynches. Have I made the right calls always in this game? Heck no. Have I owned up to these mistakes? Yes. Quin has stood by his suspicion of me to try and end this game. He doesn't acknowledge that this is the exact strategy that Epi employed in the Glorfindel lynch. He is bad.

lorab, you voted with me yesterday. please come to your senses and do it again

sloonei, pls

pls change ur votes guys.

Avant Garde 2 - Baddie
Shawshank - serial killer
A civ game would be Teh Syndicate Mafia, but that's utterly unreadable now. Also American Gods
I don't remember how I played in Downton, but I was civ.
I don't remember how I played in Gentleman's Guide, but I was bad.

I was hoping this would be a year of many civ wins for me. I guess not.

Guess I'll be known as someone who only wins as bad.

I would tend to disagree with you.

I'm not bad. I'm exhausted from defending for about 5 days straight. I played a shit civ game and the baddies deserve this win, despite how hard I fought against it.

i am attributing the behavior you are sighting to feeling antagonized and not alignment. I think reading World Reborn, Star Wars, and Arkham will show you plenty of what I might call antagonization.

And Hillary lost the election with those same odds.

That comment had little to do with this game. I am not leaving this site and not because of this game.

I apologize for that post.

Sloonei wrote:I am simply struggling to read Quin as bad in this game. I have tried very hard to do so but the absolute best I can do is the occasional tinfoil ping here and there. Dom's frustration has seemed real the last few days, but that can be the case regardless of his alignment. I am intrigued by LoRab's most recent post about him. Are you able to respond to that, Dom?

not particularly. for many reasons. most important is that the behavior she's describing is actually the result of me feeling antagonized by a player who played in the games i brought to you.

No.
It was a mistake to post that.
I apologize.

then lynch me so i get get off this site.

I have been on the defensive since Day 6. I have done my best. It has sucked. I don't know what you want from me. I don't agree with or see Lorab's assessment of my play in any capacity.

Sloonei wrote:
Dom wrote:
Glorfindel wrote:I come back to this thread and what do I find? Isn't this just charming... Seriously, if I'm the best you guys can come up with, we're in more trouble than I could've imagined...

I've literally read next to nothing that's been posted this Day phase so on the basis of my inability to make an informed decision right now, self preservation will determine my vote.
Emotional manipulation doesn't play well.

I've voted you at the moment for self preservation.
Was this vote cast out of self-preservation or because of Glorfindel's "emotional manipulation"?

Both.

Sloonei wrote:if dom wants to link me to some past scum games of his i'll be happy.

I feel like I have done this at least twice in this game. I have absolutely talked about this, maybe not linked, but talked about it.
I won this game bad
I wont this game bad
I lost this game bad.
I won this game bad, but replaced in.

Those are just recent-ish games.

I'll buy you a smaller set of tweezers to keep splitting those hairs, Quin.

Quin wrote:
Sloonei wrote:
Quin wrote:
Sloonei wrote:I put my vote on Quin.
I'd like to know why.
You have not seemed receptive enough to alternative theories to your "Dom is bad" position. I'd like to see evidence that you seriously entertained the idea that myself or LoRab could be bad.
There is not a single thing in this game that I can say points towards a townie Dom. His posts. His attitude. His interactions. It is impossible for me to entertain the idea of either of you being bad when I see no feasible scenario in which Dom is a civilian. You're right that I'm not 'receptive' enough to the alternatives, because nothing anyone has had to say, nor anything I've found in yours or LoRab's posts since the outset of my suspicion has come anywhere near the point that would make me question my read. That does not mean I'm not listening. Whatever 'evidence' you're looking for doesn't exist, because I haven't found a reason to entertain it.

What I have done is found solid reasons to see LoRab as town. I have not extended the same courtesy to you, because you've never inspired me. But it can't be you, because it's Dom.

See, this is the kind of internal contradiction that makes no sense.

He says that he's "receptive" to other arguments to appear open minded and ready for dialogue. However, this post totally destroys that. He's not open minded at all.

We have discussed why we don't think LoRab is bad. I think Sloonei is civ. I could be wrong on one of those two fronts, but Quin is my best guess at a baddie.

i think you thought I might be an easy lynch.

Almost all of those are about the same thing. No, I didn't go back after I needed space from the thread and double check for everything.

And specifically on the mac issue, I did respond to you. You just didn't like hwat you heard.

Quin wrote:
Dom wrote:
Quin wrote:
Dom wrote:I know what the word properly means.

In context you are using it to mean: I didn't answer questions the way you wanted me to.

That's an awfully suspicious line of thinknig.
No. You don't answer questions at all. And when you get pressed for more information you lash out at them.
However, you also lash out when people don't answer questions the way you want them to. I pointed this specific part out in your interactions of LoRab, which you immediately attempted to discredit.
I have done nothing but answer questions since Day 6.
Tell that to my constant attempts to engage in a dialogue with you since Day 6.

If by constant attempt at dialogue you mean voting me to avoid voting for your teammates, then you are absolutely correct-- I avoided dialgoue with you.

Quin wrote:
Dom wrote:I know what the word properly means.

In context you are using it to mean: I didn't answer questions the way you wanted me to.

That's an awfully suspicious line of thinknig.
No. You don't answer questions at all. And when you get pressed for more information you lash out at them.
However, you also lash out when people don't answer questions the way you want them to. I pointed this specific part out in your interactions of LoRab, which you immediately attempted to discredit.

I have done nothing but answer questions since Day 6.

I know what the word properly means.

In context you are using it to mean: I didn't answer questions the way you wanted me to.

That's an awfully suspicious line of thinknig.

That's not what I said.

What does not answering questions "properly" mean?
Like you are just grand supreme questioner?

sigh.
that has nothing to do with this game.

and is less funny now.

Quin wrote:
Sloonei wrote:Earlier in the game we did an exercise where a few of us tried to give one-sentence reasons why everyone could be town. I'd like to see Quin do that for Dom.
Dom refused to answer questions properly in RoT3K and he was town.

I don't even know what this means.

LoRab wrote:Quin: In a few sentences: What originally made you completely convinced that Dom was bad?

Dom: In a few sentences: What originally made you completely convinced that Quin was bad?

Process of elimination. That's completely convinced. I mean, I don't think you are bad and I don't think Sloonei is bad. Therefore, Quin is bad.

However, suspicions rose when I thought he was being unfair to me on Day 6. I thought he was trying to paint me in a certain light (a negative one) rather than talk to me. He has continually avoided voting baddies by voting me and trying to get me lynched instead of the last two baddies we have nabbed. His internal logic on his reasoning here makes no sense and matches the strategy that Epig used to try and get the lynch of of Glorfindel.

Sloonei wrote:
Dom wrote:
Sloonei wrote:
Elohcin wrote: The players I will be looking at today are:
Mac - simply b/c other players are finding him suspicious and I seem to be missing the hype. I need to reread him.
Lorab - b/c (no offence) I always see her playstyle as sneaky and bad and I need to decide if it's real or just my predisposition.
Quin - b/c he replaced a non-participant before replacing Glor who also said he cannot participate. I imagine a baddie would be replaced before a civ.
and
....not sure who else atm.
Let's come back to this post. Do we think Eloh is throwing one teammate under the bus to paint another in a more positive light?
I could see Eloh doing that.
Go on

It's something I could see her doing? I don't really know what elaboration you expect there.

Quin wrote:
Dom wrote:
Quin wrote:
Sloonei wrote:
Quin wrote:
Sloonei wrote:I have not read up on why we ended up at a tie, but I see we have LoRab to thank for that. That all but confirms her as a townie, not that I had much doubt anymore. The biggest concern about Quin is that he's been too confident about Dom, obviously. Look at the rest of the townies who have been around for the last few days. We've all been hysterical, going back and forth trying to figure things out. But Quin has been 100% sure of Dom the whole time. Maybe he's right. Or maybe he just doesn't have that natural paranoia that comes with being town in a late game situation. Thank you for the delay, LoRab. I was feeling shaky myself but couldn't contribute anything. I hope we can work this out.
No, I'm probably not as paranoid as you or LoRab. I'm confident and I don't think I've ever been given a good reason for me to doubt my read. Dom's posts have barely anything in them that I can associate with townie behaviour. He's admitted he looks bad, but I mean, how can you look this bad without actually being bad?
So you know that I am town? Then why are you asking LoRab what she thinks of me?
As long as I believe Dom is bad then you obviously aren't. I'm asking LoRab because it's important, I want to discuss it, and I am listening to the alternatives.
If you're not considering anyone else to be bad-- alternatives to what?
I never once said I wasn't considering anyone else to be bad. You are a pure black read on my rainbow list. It would take an absolutely fantastic case to help me see you in a better light. That does not mean I'm not open to at least hearing cases against anyone else.

So... I'm 100% bad, but you'll hear out other people in case they're right, but that... doesn't... make/?? sense?~?!!!!

Sloonei wrote:
Elohcin wrote: The players I will be looking at today are:
Mac - simply b/c other players are finding him suspicious and I seem to be missing the hype. I need to reread him.
Lorab - b/c (no offence) I always see her playstyle as sneaky and bad and I need to decide if it's real or just my predisposition.
Quin - b/c he replaced a non-participant before replacing Glor who also said he cannot participate. I imagine a baddie would be replaced before a civ.
and
....not sure who else atm.
Let's come back to this post. Do we think Eloh is throwing one teammate under the bus to paint another in a more positive light?

I could see Eloh doing that.

Quin wrote:
Sloonei wrote:
Quin wrote:
Sloonei wrote:I have not read up on why we ended up at a tie, but I see we have LoRab to thank for that. That all but confirms her as a townie, not that I had much doubt anymore. The biggest concern about Quin is that he's been too confident about Dom, obviously. Look at the rest of the townies who have been around for the last few days. We've all been hysterical, going back and forth trying to figure things out. But Quin has been 100% sure of Dom the whole time. Maybe he's right. Or maybe he just doesn't have that natural paranoia that comes with being town in a late game situation. Thank you for the delay, LoRab. I was feeling shaky myself but couldn't contribute anything. I hope we can work this out.
No, I'm probably not as paranoid as you or LoRab. I'm confident and I don't think I've ever been given a good reason for me to doubt my read. Dom's posts have barely anything in them that I can associate with townie behaviour. He's admitted he looks bad, but I mean, how can you look this bad without actually being bad?
So you know that I am town? Then why are you asking LoRab what she thinks of me?
As long as I believe Dom is bad then you obviously aren't. I'm asking LoRab because it's important, I want to discuss it, and I am listening to the alternatives.

If you're not considering anyone else to be bad-- alternatives to what?

What motivation does a baddie LoRab have to needlessly extend the game another day?

This makes no sense.

Quin wrote:
Sloonei wrote:
Quin wrote:
Sloonei wrote:I have not read up on why we ended up at a tie, but I see we have LoRab to thank for that. That all but confirms her as a townie, not that I had much doubt anymore. The biggest concern about Quin is that he's been too confident about Dom, obviously. Look at the rest of the townies who have been around for the last few days. We've all been hysterical, going back and forth trying to figure things out. But Quin has been 100% sure of Dom the whole time. Maybe he's right. Or maybe he just doesn't have that natural paranoia that comes with being town in a late game situation. Thank you for the delay, LoRab. I was feeling shaky myself but couldn't contribute anything. I hope we can work this out.
No, I'm probably not as paranoid as you or LoRab. I'm confident and I don't think I've ever been given a good reason for me to doubt my read. Dom's posts have barely anything in them that I can associate with townie behaviour. He's admitted he looks bad, but I mean, how can you look this bad without actually being bad?
So you know that I am town? Then why are you asking LoRab what she thinks of me?
As long as I believe Dom is bad then you obviously aren't. I'm asking LoRab because it's important, I want to discuss it, and I am listening to the alternatives.

As long as you believe Dom is bad then LoRab obviously isn't as well.

Quin wrote:
Sloonei wrote:I have not read up on why we ended up at a tie, but I see we have LoRab to thank for that. That all but confirms her as a townie, not that I had much doubt anymore. The biggest concern about Quin is that he's been too confident about Dom, obviously. Look at the rest of the townies who have been around for the last few days. We've all been hysterical, going back and forth trying to figure things out. But Quin has been 100% sure of Dom the whole time. Maybe he's right. Or maybe he just doesn't have that natural paranoia that comes with being town in a late game situation. Thank you for the delay, LoRab. I was feeling shaky myself but couldn't contribute anything. I hope we can work this out.
No, I'm probably not as paranoid as you or LoRab. I'm confident and I don't think I've ever been given a good reason for me to doubt my read. Dom's posts have barely anything in them that I can associate with townie behaviour. He's admitted he looks bad, but I mean, how can you look this bad without actually being bad?

Yeah civvies never screw up. They play 100% perfect games that illuminate them to be civvies every time. That's why we didn't lynch any of--

oh... right.

Your logic is shaky at best and downright faulty at worst.

Quin wrote:
Sloonei wrote:
Quin wrote:
Sloonei wrote:I have not read up on why we ended up at a tie, but I see we have LoRab to thank for that. That all but confirms her as a townie, not that I had much doubt anymore. The biggest concern about Quin is that he's been too confident about Dom, obviously. Look at the rest of the townies who have been around for the last few days. We've all been hysterical, going back and forth trying to figure things out. But Quin has been 100% sure of Dom the whole time. Maybe he's right. Or maybe he just doesn't have that natural paranoia that comes with being town in a late game situation. Thank you for the delay, LoRab. I was feeling shaky myself but couldn't contribute anything. I hope we can work this out.
No, I'm probably not as paranoid as you or LoRab. I'm confident and I don't think I've ever been given a good reason for me to doubt my read. Dom's posts have barely anything in them that I can associate with townie behaviour. He's admitted he looks bad, but I mean, how can you look this bad without actually being bad?
So you know that I am town? Then why are you asking LoRab what she thinks of me?
As long as I believe Dom is bad then you obviously aren't. I'm asking LoRab because it's important, I want to discuss it, and I am listening to the alternatives.

The alternative is that YOU are bad, eh?

LoRab wrote:Mafia: The game where you get to make great friends--and kill them, too!

It's fun! trust

Quin wrote:Let's not lose based on emotional appeals from someone without an ounce of civ cred.

This post REEKS.

So smug.

Quin wrote:LoRab, what are these reasons? Please change your vote.

Reason: you are bad.

PLEASE SLOONEI

Quin wrote:
Dom wrote:
Quin wrote:
Yes, I did. He was not confirmed at that point, and I expressed why I had my doubts and chose you over him.
He admitted to being bad.

You also did this with Glorfindel.
Explain to me how Glorfindel's meta standpoint on refusing to answer a question is a clear-cut scum-tell.

Because he does not lie.

SLOONEI PLEASE

Quin wrote:
Yes, I did. He was not confirmed at that point, and I expressed why I had my doubts and chose you over him.

He admitted to being bad.

You also did this with Glorfindel.

PLEASE change your votes.

Quin wrote:
Dom wrote:Indiglo-- LoRab.
Your first interaction about indiglo was well after the case against her had surfaced.

That wasn't her question.

I am answering her question.

Quin wrote:
Dom wrote:
Quin wrote:
Dom wrote:
Quin wrote:
Dom wrote:Please, if yo uwant to win this game reconsider your votes.

I played a shit game and Quin played masterfully. If he's not bad then someone is fooling me hard. He has tried to end this game early on multiple occasions. Am I assuming the worst case? Yes. I want to win. I want us to win. I am a civvie. People could have searched their feelings earlier in the game and found me, but none did. I truly am alone in this game. You have seen a Dom play like crap.

Now, quin has repeatedly avoided the last two (read: all of them but elohcin) baddie lynches. Have I made the right calls always in this game? Heck no. Have I owned up to these mistakes? Yes. Quin has stood by his suspicion of me to try and end this game. He doesn't acknowledge that this is the exact strategy that Epi employed in the Glorfindel lynch. He is bad.
I have not tried to end this game through my vote for you. You're pushing this narrative that I made you into my lylo scapegoat, which is blatantly false. I stuck to my case on you because you looked no better than they did. I own that. I won't acknowledge it's the same strategy, because it's not. I think he voted you for an attempt to gain civ cred. I voted you because you're bad.
Weird how you both have the same record on the day where the baddie count went from 2-1.
What does this mean?
Weird how you and a confirmed baddie both voted against the confirmed baddie on the day that confirmed baddie made the baddies go into 1 lynch until loss.
We went into lylo after we lynched WIlgy, not Glorfindel.

That wasn't my point.
You voted against a confirmed baddie on the day that the baddie team became a team of one.

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