The Syndicate

insertnamehere wrote:

DrumBeats wrote:@ Scotty - The thing is that you directly said that we would get to make more sense of things after the flip and then voted a player with 0 interactions to make sense of post flip. What were we supposed to learn from Goldys flip other than Goldys alignment?

@ Quin - Why do you think INH defended you so hard last phase?

@ Matt - What do you think about INH's defense of Quin last phase?

Just an FYI, I still stand by my defense of Quin, and if you'd like to ask me a question about it, feel free.

insertnamehere wrote:

timmer wrote:@INH, I barely have any suspicion of you at ALL. It's day fucking ONE. But the "barely" I've got is just a hair more than I've got for anyone else. Or would you rather I lazily voted for an absentee player, or randomized? Which choice, from a baddie hunting pov, would have been the smarter choice?

I explained my reasons to you. I'm not going to go and pull 30 post quotes for a day 1 vote. It is what it is. Why you are reacting like this, on Day 1, is beyond me?

You're awfully touchy whenever someone tries to question your reasoning behind your votes...

I wonder why that is.

Oh, and votes are in fact changeable this game. If you still think your vote for me is justified, leave it. If you don't, remember that you can. Because all I've gotten from you is: "it wasn't a reeeeal suspicion, it was Day 1! You know what it's like in Day 1, nothing means anything!" If your defense of your vote consists mostly of cheap deflection and not actual rebuttals, maybe it isn't a very smart vote.

Also, what makes you not find Wilgy suspicious, if I may ask?

Quin wrote:

timmer wrote:@Quin, way back when I first posted to you regarding your posts, I was kind of touching on what SVS is saying. The things you were saying seemed to not be focused on baddie hunting, which bothers me. That IS the name of this game, no?

Don't get me wrong, my top priority is on baddie hunting. But at the same time, I wanted to create an advantage for town that may have come in handy at some point. We don't know what Dom has planned for this game, so I figured, why not use the resources we do have?

linki: I get what you're saying. I might be distracting myself, in hindsight. I'LL DO BETTER

Quin wrote:
linki: if you find it best to leave Pams role alone, I won't press the matter anymore.

insertnamehere wrote:

timmer wrote:
It's day 1. You were in the small cluster of people who promoted the whole "let's say we're civs for the lie detector" thing. You also jumped a bit forcefully on Wilgy for my liking. Then there is Wilgy himself, whose posts haven't been great, either. But you, and the cluster who were involved with the lie detector thing, are all earning light mentions that could be read as a teammate making sure to namedrop you while simultaneously moving onto a civ target, while those mentioning Wilgy don't seem to be doing the same thing.

I've got virtually nothing, it's day 1, but if I've got multiple people who are all getting talked about the same level of weak, and one of them seems to have a "pass" current for some reason while others don't, that's where I invariably want to lean. I wouldn't even try to guess at the odds that either you or Wilgy are bad, but if one of you is, the way the posts are reading, I'd say it's you.

Again, Day 1, but that's as good as I'm going to get.

So to summarize...

- I wanted to help the civ lie detector.
- I find Wilgy suspicious, and believe him to be bad.
- People find me suspicious, but not as suspicious as other people.

If that's all you need to be convinced of someone's alignment, then there's a house up in Alaska I want to sell you.

Also, you keep mentioning "people" who were involved in trying to help the civ lie detector, which you seem to find suspicious for some reason, as mentioning me and then ignoring me. Whereas people who mention Wilgy seem to want to stick to Wilgy. Care to name some names instead of speaking in broad terms?

Timmer, I don't know your profession, but if I had to guess, I'd say you were an Olympic long jumpers with all these impressive leaps you keep making.

Quin wrote:How do you feel about me right now timmer? I don't think you got much out of your questioning of my play history but if you're up to it I'd recommend you look at some of my previous games here.

Turf Wars, Zodiac, AoT and Futurama (but I was playing a sock there so I was roleplaying a bit and experimenting with new playstyles without having to worry about being meta-read lool)

insertnamehere wrote:

timmer wrote:I think I'm going to vote for INH. There is this handful of players who posted a few things that have been commented and critiqued upon, and the rest of the players are picking those posts apart on a lightweight basis, but there seems to be a slight vibe leaning towards Wilgy and away from INH, which, if all of these Day 1 posts are roughly equal in mini-pinginess, is enough for me to go the other way. Nothing will become clearer in the next few hours, so it's enough for me.

If you have any questions or problems or what have you for me, I'd love to hear them. I'd also love to hear some concrete reasons instead of you just hinting at "pinginess," if that's not too much trouble.

Epignosis wrote:

DrWilgy wrote:Hmm...

I think Quin and INH are on a team. I also think INH and Matt are on opposite teams. I also don't think bad Matt woud gimmick this early, unless he is strictly copying another game. He compared this point system to transistor, but I don't think he's copying what he did there.

Why is that question strange bullz? Feep free to answer the question yourself.

All of this sounds like somebody who needed something to say coming in and saying something. Why do you think these things? What posts brought you to these conclusions? Why are you defending Matt?

Enrique wrote:

Quin wrote:I feel like you're the one who wanted to make Day 1 about me, timmer. But even so, let's do it. I'll do a good job of it.

You guys move fast. What am I supposed to take from this exchange? Where's the meat? Where did you think you were headed with... any of it, really? Where did you land?

S~V~S wrote:
@Timmer, I don't see anything specifically abnormal about Quin, what are you seeing?

Quin wrote:I feel like you're the one who wanted to make Day 1 about me, timmer. But even so, let's do it. I'll do a good job of it.

Quin wrote:

timmer wrote:You know what helps a lie detector? Quietly making a statement that you know will help them see that you are civ.

You know what doesn't help them? Getting all players to say it and getting the whole thing thrown out as unusable.

And what really really doesn't help is then winking and saying you knew that, Muhuhaha. Because now day 1 is about you.

not a fan. Maybe you won't care. And because of course you will ask. I am town aligned.

I thinkyou're talking to me so I'll respond. I wasn't going to ask anybody else to say it because the point's already been made that saying 'I am town aligned' isn't worth a damn to a lie detector. It was unusable from the start, so there's no reason why I can't find a use for it myself.

-wink-, muhuhaha.

Elohcin wrote:I was going to vote management until I saw this. It makes sense, so I will vote personnel.

Good to see you timmer!!