The Syndicate

Ultimately you figured out how to adapt in the game s environment and I didn't, and that alone is reason enough for you to get the win.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jan 16, 2019 4:44 pm I felt like the remnant played very well in this game. Timmer and Bob were so hard to read as Mafia in the end I had my own POE and that's the only reason I figured them out. DDL got stitched up by info. TH killed n1.

I think that's partly why I snapped, lol. I came into this with a plan to play my best game ever. I wanted to last to the end and have people be like wow, timmer was bad? And it was working really really well. And then info after v info after info just turned everything on its head because I had no time to play when I had to wait out the info chaos each day.

And then I had a very bad day and showed up to That Day and just walked, which I apologize for again. But it was like, this is it, the last chance of playing a normal game is gone. I don't actually think there was anything wrong with the game, we play with info on my movie site all the time. It just clashed with my expectations in a way that became a problem.

Thx for the game LC /BR!

I apologize for my behaviorin the game. A friend is doing very poorly with pneumonia from influenza and I had had a very bad day. It's on me entirely. Best of luck to all from here out

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Dec 30, 2018 3:42 am Fuck it. The other remnant is Timmer.

Wow Mac, thanks. For the record we played great and flew perfectly under the radar, and your team went and stepped in a landmine of your own making and suffered for it. So what do you do, you just decide to blow up the whole game and hand victory to the civs.

Honestly, thx for ruining one of the best group efforts I've ever been a part of.This will be my last post in this game.

Tranq wrote: ↑Fri Dec 28, 2018 7:15 am
timmer wrote: ↑Fri Dec 28, 2018 12:44 am
Tranq wrote: ↑Thu Dec 27, 2018 6:08 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 27, 2018 5:59 am Tranq or INH killed sorsha I am sure of it.
Hmm. I didn't kill Sorsha. INH being Dark Worshipper would actually explain something.
Is he not the mimic role?
My current theory is INH as Dark Worshipper killed the Random Animal and gained it's power. It would explain certain things, but I'm not sold on it yet.

And sorry, remind me how you ended up with the same weird win con as him for awhile?

And dammit I called speedchuck EARLY. why did no one listen lol (cuz my case was incomplete, I know)

Ah, that seems like a pretty big thing to catch up to, I see your point!

Ok, I'm taking to bed. Will leave a speedchuck vote, and finish up in the morning.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Dec 28, 2018 12:42 am
timmer wrote: ↑Fri Dec 28, 2018 12:36 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 27, 2018 5:59 am Tranq or INH killed sorsha I am sure of it.
This needs to be cleared up, for me. I've been spotty for the last while here... the last I remember about these two, they both claimed to be the same role with the same win condition, except one of them was actually the role that copies other roles, and this is what he got stuck into that day?

So, how does that fit with this. Which of them was the mimic, versus which was the goofy win con role? And if they killed, does that mean the mimic is currently bad? When does he turn back to good?

Frankly, that's a role that eventually has to get removed, or does it? That's the most confusing role idea I've ever seen.
Maybe you should read a little more before you post.

If I don't backtrack and read this shit, I'm going to be lost forever.

Tranq wrote: ↑Thu Dec 27, 2018 6:08 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 27, 2018 5:59 am Tranq or INH killed sorsha I am sure of it.
Hmm. I didn't kill Sorsha. INH being Dark Worshipper would actually explain something.

Is he not the mimic role?

sabie12 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 27, 2018 6:01 am RIP Enrique. Sorsha I'm not so sure about. If that old lady thing were to be believed those two were the ones I thought but I didnt share on the off chance I was right and got killed off or wrong and we lynched another civ. Now we dont even know for sure on sorsha. I do wonder why dana and inh keep saying they're alone when they've been hanging out for the past two days. And DH and DDL were hanging too so not sure how much we should trust anything DH says.

This isn't a good look for Dana.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 27, 2018 5:59 am Tranq or INH killed sorsha I am sure of it.

This needs to be cleared up, for me. I've been spotty for the last while here... the last I remember about these two, they both claimed to be the same role with the same win condition, except one of them was actually the role that copies other roles, and this is what he got stuck into that day?

So, how does that fit with this. Which of them was the mimic, versus which was the goofy win con role? And if they killed, does that mean the mimic is currently bad? When does he turn back to good?

Frankly, that's a role that eventually has to get removed, or does it? That's the most confusing role idea I've ever seen.

Tranq wrote: ↑Thu Dec 27, 2018 3:26 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 27, 2018 2:33 am I think Tranq is the Dark Worshipper and I think he killed Lorab and Sorsha. I also think he has been trying to lure Dana to him so he can sacrifice her to finish his weird ass win con.
Nope, none of these things. I'm a civ. My weird ass stuff ended when i failed the Day 3 lynch.
Your Epignosis theory sounds believable, though i'd rather focus on lynching an actual baddie.
Someone using an item or a square could've sent you a message.

"An actual baddie" isn't what we would call amalgamation of the hunger and the darkness?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 27, 2018 2:44 am Also Epignosis was The Hunger and he's also The Darkness. He's anti-town as fuck so I'd also like to lynch him at earliest convenience.

I'm barely following along here, but as I catch up, I'll just stop and say... da fuq? Epig is both?

Oh, we're back! I'll be available to catch the duck up in the morning!

Voted for what I thought said cronut. It'd be better if it actually was a cronut.

Just going to be honest. I'm blindly trusting the votes on ddl, I'm out of the loop with Christmas activities and work.

Why did you all vote for something called cataclysm, lol. I'm unsure where to do in this game anymore.

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Thu Dec 20, 2018 3:57 pm
timmer wrote: ↑Thu Dec 20, 2018 3:56 pm Sig is the clear choice for me today. After that last lynch it's a must.
Is it tho

It is for me. Vote patterns are my boo. That lynch was an obvious save.

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Thu Dec 20, 2018 3:56 pm
sabie12 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 20, 2018 3:53 pm
DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Thu Dec 20, 2018 3:48 pm Me before Sabie: Lets lynch Sig or maybe Timmer

Me After Sabie: Nah lets not do either of those things.
Why's that?
Because you exposed a liar and a rat and the real killer.

I hesitate to trust the things you say after "hey, everyone, cataclysm sounds cool amirite?" Lol

Sig is the clear choice for me today. After that last lynch it's a must.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 20, 2018 2:47 pm
ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Thu Dec 20, 2018 2:33 pm
Enrique wrote: ↑Thu Dec 20, 2018 2:23 pm @ColinIsCool get on board
Okay but really, why sig and not timmer?
Timmer's just as likely to have taken the shot as Sig. Sig's more likely got a nasty night power that was used on me. Timmer claims to have seen my "claim" and Sig blatantly had not but was around at the time I was targeted.

PS where abouts are you? I need to talk to you about a mole rat.

Hey, just to clear this up for you, I very clearly saw your claim, here is us actually talking about your claims, lol:

timmer wrote: ↑Sat Dec 15, 2018 7:32 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 14, 2018 10:10 am Depending on a number of things, the actual killer might be confined to Sprityo, Speedchuck, Sig.
I've come back to neutral on speed chuck but none of these three are crying out civ to me, so this news is important to not be forgotten. At this moment ai cant make a specific case on any of them being the clear baddie, t though.

Congrats, sig's teammates.

Ookay? Lol

My catch up had been understandably incomplete. Do we know if there is a reason g mah is doing this karaoke karl thing?

Dana wrote: ↑Tue Dec 18, 2018 10:38 pm
timmer wrote: ↑Tue Dec 18, 2018 10:30 pm
Dana wrote: ↑Tue Dec 18, 2018 10:26 pm
S~V~S wrote: ↑Tue Dec 18, 2018 10:20 pm
Dana wrote: ↑Tue Dec 18, 2018 9:31 pm I'm not quite sure how I feel about lynching Nova, that seemed like it happened really fast and I don't entirely understand all this darkness stuff. I'm gonna [VOTE: sig] aubergine for now even though I don't really like that I'll be causing a tie but there is still some time left so I might change my mind once I catch up a little further.
Ding ding ding ding ding

Oooh boy I love sirens!
You, uhm.... get what she's saying here, right?
Yes I think, that it's alarming? But idk I'm not the best at this game and I hate having to vote on murdering people so I'm just trying my best here. I didn't like people voting for Nova host because they happened to show up around the same time as the darkness, I feel like there's so many other things that could be going on. I voted sig because I think it makes more sense than a last minute Nova lynch for something that could be entirely unrelated.

To be fair, "voting to murder people" despite the weird word choice, is literally how the game works, but I get you, coming in when there is a tie isn't fun.

Enrique wrote: ↑Tue Dec 18, 2018 10:37 pm
DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Tue Dec 18, 2018 10:10 pm Lol an 8-8 tie to protect an inactive yall are wild.
sig had 7 votes when nova had 0, who is being protected?

Is that true? Yeah that's pretty damning.

Dana wrote: ↑Tue Dec 18, 2018 10:26 pm
S~V~S wrote: ↑Tue Dec 18, 2018 10:20 pm
Dana wrote: ↑Tue Dec 18, 2018 9:31 pm I'm not quite sure how I feel about lynching Nova, that seemed like it happened really fast and I don't entirely understand all this darkness stuff. I'm gonna [VOTE: sig] aubergine for now even though I don't really like that I'll be causing a tie but there is still some time left so I might change my mind once I catch up a little further.
Ding ding ding ding ding

Oooh boy I love sirens!

You, uhm.... get what she's saying here, right?

S~V~S wrote: ↑Tue Dec 18, 2018 10:20 pm
Dana wrote: ↑Tue Dec 18, 2018 9:31 pm I'm not quite sure how I feel about lynching Nova, that seemed like it happened really fast and I don't entirely understand all this darkness stuff. I'm gonna [VOTE: sig] aubergine for now even though I don't really like that I'll be causing a tie but there is still some time left so I might change my mind once I catch up a little further.
Ding ding ding ding ding

Good point, this has even more disclaimers and qualifiers than sorsha's...

Not at all, but an absent player can be anything.

So while I get the nova could be the darkness angle, couldn't nova also be the public silencing role, which I don't think ever happened?

And couldn't someone like sorsha with 14 posts in 11 days also be the darkness?

And what about Dana?

I would rather try for a baddie than a darkness when I can see several candidates for that.

Quin wrote: ↑Tue Dec 18, 2018 5:41 am
Tranq wrote: ↑Tue Dec 18, 2018 5:27 am
Quin wrote: ↑Tue Dec 18, 2018 5:16 am sig is actually confirmed town if you read the thread but ok
I read the thread...most of it. Which post are you talking about?
i forgot

Never mind.

Quin wrote: ↑Tue Dec 18, 2018 5:16 am sig is actually confirmed town if you read the thread but ok

Just reading, maybe it'll come up, but does this get explained?

Sorsha wrote: ↑Tue Dec 18, 2018 9:53 pm I really don’t want to mess with a tie. I’ve nothing against a lynch of either of these two. I guess I like the speculation about nova more than the case on sig but I don’t know if I’ll vote to tip it that way....

Nothing against... I guess... I don't know...

I kind of think you do know that you won't mess with the tie, so why feign indecisiveness?

What's a tie meta?

Just got home. Moved my vote over to sig. I have no reason not to trust Jack's info, but I'm going to cook dinner and think about thur case on him vs the darkness case on nova. Back in a bit.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 18, 2018 6:08 pm
timmer wrote: ↑Tue Dec 18, 2018 5:58 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 18, 2018 5:55 pm
timmer wrote: ↑Tue Dec 18, 2018 5:54 pm
DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Mon Dec 17, 2018 12:38 pm I like how everyone was like "Tranq obviously wants to be lynched otherwise he'd not be doing such suspicious shit" and then Tranq, blood pouring from his mouth as he tries desperately to hide the pile of corpses behind him was like "What? Uh...yeah...definitely." and everyone was like "Wow totally believable."
Yeah, in case I don't fully catch up, I'm leaving a vote on tranq for now.
Tranq is town imo.
Ok I'm clearly farther back than I thought. What page is this covered, and what page is the case against Sig?
Tranq and INH claimed something about having the same role and trying to get lynched on exactly Day 3. INH claimed scum while “drunk” on N2 and Tranq lies to get Wilgy lynched D2 and then picked a fight with me D3. Both self voted. It’s a credible story imo. They’d have to be scum together to coordinate it if they were bad and scumbuddies don’t up and go “let’s both try to get lynched Day 3 as a gambit” cause what if it works and they both get lynched?

Regarding Sig, I called out a group of players who may have killed DH. The following night, someone hit me with not a kill but something obviously from a scum player. It was either you, Sig, CBob or Mac.

I propose that CBob, Mac and maybe Speed knew I could see in a radius around myself and would not choose to target me with something non fatal as it would put them on a shortlist. Ergo, you or Sig (who aren’t caught up to know my ability?) should be scum.

You both were also on the “maybe tried to kill DH” list so even if I’m wrong, maybe I get a baddie anyway by lynching one of you.

That's exactly what I needed, thank you!

That's a more fleshed out explanation of the Tranq/INH thing than I had seen up to where I'm at, so it makes sense, though I'll still read through it to get the fine details.

I do know about your called out list from earlier, and I would never expose myself to furthur scrutiny by targeting you after that, I'm not the ballsy, throw caution to the wind type of player who would. I'm behind, but I'm not that behind.

I'm back on shift, but I'll be home with at least 90 minutes to spare later to continue catching up.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 18, 2018 5:55 pm
timmer wrote: ↑Tue Dec 18, 2018 5:54 pm
DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Mon Dec 17, 2018 12:38 pm I like how everyone was like "Tranq obviously wants to be lynched otherwise he'd not be doing such suspicious shit" and then Tranq, blood pouring from his mouth as he tries desperately to hide the pile of corpses behind him was like "What? Uh...yeah...definitely." and everyone was like "Wow totally believable."
Yeah, in case I don't fully catch up, I'm leaving a vote on tranq for now.
Tranq is town imo.

Ok I'm clearly farther back than I thought. What page is this covered, and what page is the case against Sig?

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 18, 2018 5:53 pm And that’s part of why I’m focusing on Sig and Timmer (and perhaps I should be looking at Speedchuck). Cause I know Sig isn’t up to speed and it seems Timmer might be in the same boat.

Man I'm trying here, but if you need to know if I'm up to speed on a certain thing, just ask.

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Mon Dec 17, 2018 12:38 pm I like how everyone was like "Tranq obviously wants to be lynched otherwise he'd not be doing such suspicious shit" and then Tranq, blood pouring from his mouth as he tries desperately to hide the pile of corpses behind him was like "What? Uh...yeah...definitely." and everyone was like "Wow totally believable."

Yeah, in case I don't fully catch up, I'm leaving a vote on tranq for now.

[mention]Long Con[/mention] [mention]Black Rock[/mention]

If possible, could you rename the thread to day 4? It makes things a lot easier for catching up when you can pinpoint which game day or night a post was made! Thx!

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 18, 2018 2:29 pm Anybody know where Timmer scampered off to?

Anyone have a reason to trust Timmer?

See my previous post four my absence, I'm trying to catchup on my lunch break.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue Dec 18, 2018 7:42 am
timmer wrote: ↑Mon Dec 17, 2018 10:35 pm I'm having a bit if a mental health day. I'll tune in tomorrow.
That's tough to hear, man! Hope you get better.

Yes, I apologize for not being here, a friend who has a history of an eating disorder that had been held in check for a few years suddenly arrived in hospital here and has lost a frightening amount of weight out of sight of everyone... I spent a good part of the day with them and was just mentally and emotionally worn out.

I'm at work but I'm going to try my best to catch up on breaks and I'll manage some kind of semi-educated vote by deadline.

I'm having a bit if a mental health day. I'll tune in tomorrow.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Dec 15, 2018 9:32 pm
timmer wrote: ↑Sat Dec 15, 2018 9:31 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Dec 14, 2018 3:53 pm Anywho I got darknessed so my win con is gone or some shit which is basically the goofiest thing ever so I am just gonna chaos post now.
I remember that the darkness was bad news in previous games... how was it killed?
Pretty sure we lynched The Darkness on day 1 in A World Reborn.

Oh, that's... surprisingly boring.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Dec 14, 2018 3:53 pm Anywho I got darknessed so my win con is gone or some shit which is basically the goofiest thing ever so I am just gonna chaos post now.

I remember that the darkness was bad news in previous games... how was it killed?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Dec 15, 2018 9:24 pm
timmer wrote: ↑Sat Dec 15, 2018 9:21 pm Has this game series had jester roles before? I'm bring by a big bit so I'm skimming around to catch up. Could inh be a jester? I'd gladly move my vote to tranq if there is a jester history in this. Anyone?
My role in the previous version was a secret indie that needed to get 50 votes cast against me during the game. I had some protections, lynchproofs and stuff and I was also able to send the alignment of any player to a random other player every night. Once I got 50 votes I just became a survivor.

I got the 50 votes and then was killed for NO FUCKING REASON by the stupid mafia.

Ok. That's enough for me. My views on Tranq was more baddie based so I'll move my vote. I think you've provided a possibleexplanation for this.

Has this game series had jester roles before? I'm bring by a big bit so I'm skimming around to catch up. Could inh be a jester? I'd gladly move my vote to tranq if there is a jester history in this. Anyone?

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 14, 2018 10:10 am Depending on a number of things, the actual killer might be confined to Sprityo, Speedchuck, Sig.

I've come back to neutral on speed chuck but none of these three are crying out civ to me, so this news is important to not be forgotten. At this moment ai cant make a specific case on any of them being the clear baddie, t though.

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Fri Dec 14, 2018 9:29 am
sabie12 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 14, 2018 8:54 am I saw a few people still accusing me. I wonder is it based on any kind of actual argument or just the crazy lady who people are very much interpreting incorrectly. Also just want to know if that info came from the hosts then how was it able to be shared in the thread as a direct quote? Isn't that not allowed? If people think I'm bad because I voted wilgy I made an argument for why I thought he was bad. I also wasnt the only one who believed he was bad. As a civ you go off what you think is baddie behavior but you dont know for sure. It was an honest mistake. Unless there was some trickery going on but again that also is uncertain.
“I’m not scum and the info is wrong, but if it’s not, isn’t it against the rules to reveal it?”

Tantalizing as other lynches may be, I really don’t see myself voting for anyone but Sabie today.

[VOTE: SABIE] aubergine

I think Colin is correct here. That Sabie post reads just like the stuff I used to write when I was a baddie and I was getting heat for reasons that I felt were weak and undeserved.

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