The Syndicate

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juliets wrote:Dom! You killed me! Or maybe Timmer did instead. Timmer, why me? I was so bummed to be out so early. But I forgive you because of that massive upset you scored in Tranq's game.

Well, night 5 isn't THAT early.

Dom, there was at least one night where you were busy and we sent in the night actions for you. I think we chose for you to kill JC

DisgruntledPorcupine wrote:Timmer was so bad it hurt. Even I could tell immediately after my death and I suck at that. xD Me and rey knew Dom was bad too. Epig I didn't know.

LOL, part of our plan for controlling the lynches was to ensure that the negative voters voted for Residents. As soon as I saw that Boomslang, Boats and DH all were listing me as a probable suspect, I was actually forced to start acting a bit bad, to keep their votes in line.

Congrats to a great team! Epig, BWT and Dom, you guys were great! CBK, I hope I made you proud in taking over! And Bea, I'm sorry we never got to actually be in the game together

Insane set-up, MP7!

You know what I see in all of those votes? A baddie bandwagon.

votes INH

Ya for no deaths! Now, to find some baddies.

i told you DH was bad.

Holy crapping crap, this isn't what I expected when I logged in, lol.

Uhm...

Well, it's useless but I'm sticking to my guns.

votes DH

Epignosis wrote:timmer, I feel like you're grasping at straws there, and by straws, I mean, "shot in the dark circumstantial evidence of the sort that almost got me killed for Herman."

Can you defend yourself any better? Especially after night 5?

Again, not an accusation. It's just that presupposing CBK had a great reason to vote for rabbit8 on day 2 is a little baffling, and if you are on the block, it's a lousy defense.

But what else can I say? I mean, this goes back to my first post in the entire game, what else can I say about CBK's vote? I know I'm not bad, and so she must have had good reason to vote him.

DharmaHelper wrote:He voted for *a* baddie.... In a game with many baddies.

Yes, but we're back to the blinders thing. Everyone looked at CBK's vote as one thing and one thing only; an attempt to save Bea. No one bothered to consider ANY other reason for that vote, in other words, no one considered that CBK may have actually been onto something with rabbit's play and voted accordingly. Again, I can't say, I can't know the thought process there. But no one ever considered it. But now we see that Rabbit was bad, and CBK was right in voting him, and still people are thinking only one thing... must have been to save Bea. Well, it wasn't, and the vote was a good one. Why no one wills ee that is frustrating to me.

Boomslang wrote:
Maybe because I went after you based on the evidence accrued by your predecessor, CBK? I would like to point that I've called a lot of the lynches correctly; yeah, I went on the early bandwagons that got civs, but so did everyone.

My predecessor, who voted for rabbit8, who was... a baddie? It's time people realized that CBK has his reasons, whatever they were, and they were CORRECT. i can't honestly believe that vote is coming back into consideration AGAIN.

I've been pinged a bit by boomslang since I subbed into the game, but can't put my finger on why.

boats has also been a bit odd, but these are players I'm unfamiliar with, so I've been hesitant to pursue those leads until i get a better feel for them.

I lean more towards INH being a civ at this time. Generally he's more talkative and (forgive me, INH) sort of agitated as a baddie. Cool, more quiet inh tends to be good.

Really? At this time, DH pings me more than anyone.

DharmaHelper wrote:

I refuse to see alot of things. Not because I'm a baddie, but because I'm an asshole.

i still think you're bad.

But there are roles that block, and roles that redirect. You chose to ignore all of those possibilities. You made a grey situation black and white. it's not that you were wrong that makes me think you're bad, but that you refused to see the other facets of the Herman puzzle, you just flat out ignored them and stated unequivocally that it was Epig. For whatever reason it is, you needed us to be convinced it was him.

ETA: Oh. LOL, okay I clearly did not know that.

DharmaHelper wrote:

How is that odd?

There was a significant amount of evidence pointing in that direction, IMO.

There was significant evidence that it was Epig, or Aces, or DP. Some of us were pointing out (quite correctly, I might add ) that the way DP was acting screamed evil. But you stuck with Epig VERY forcefully.

Looking at the roles, I think I might know why.

• Residents Fanboy – Listens to no other music but The Residents and knows more about them than anyone else. The only thing he does not know is their true identities, and is incredibly desperate to, even going so far as to steal Mr. Skull’s previous red eyeball mask. Consequently, he is impervious to being affected by The Residents, and if he is targeted by of them he uncovers his targeter’s identity with what he believes to be perfect accuracy. In reality, his accuracy in determining his enemy in this scenario really is closer to perhaps forty, fifty, or sixty percent. Again, fifty is probably a safe bet for an accurate estimation.

Could it be that you are a Resident and you've tried to target Epig, to no avail? Thus, you figure he's this role and you wanted him gone since he would discover your identities eventually?

In fact, weren't there a couple of night posts with Residents appearing before Epig but not doing anything to him?

Oh, DH...

I'm all for 24 hour days, I guess?

Well THAT worked out alright! Yay for crazy, unpredictable lynches!

voted DP

it's him or Epig, one of them is Herman and they apparently both dodged death in that last portal, so... you know, time for one of you to go. And since DP is doing that quiet, nothing to see here thing again, he's it.

I see I've missed quite a bit?

This portal seems... fun?

This game is so messed up, lol. Bye baddie team!

rabbit8 wrote:Holy fuck, I completely fogot I was playing this game. So sorry. I'm going to be catching up today.

Dude, I think you're dead, though? And bad? So, you know, BIH?

interesting that while in that portal epig apparently dodged his kynch and then dp also survived the lynch. one of them is obv herman.

Went with Portal 3...

Epig, do you know why DP was up for the lynch and not you?

So goodbye to a major baddie and... his recruit? Maybe? That's a great ending to a bizarre lynch?

And DP was the lynch canddate, not Epig? And survived? My head, she spins...

But you have? You are on both shortlists. You, Aces and Epig. One of you is Herman.

Epig has defended himself quite a bit. It doesn't make him truthful, but it indicates that he's trying.

Aces is barely here, which makes him hard to read.

but you, knowing you are on the shortlist, are posting, but not really talking about it. That, to me, is more shady than either of the other two.

S~V~S wrote:If I am going to die today based on the 2 days thing, I would just like to make a toast to my man Damo He has some awesome shrooms

What 2 days thing? Did I miss something?

DisgruntledPorcupine wrote:
I assume you're expecting me to say "No. Your list is wrong. The voting records are false and I received invisible votes that prevented me from possibly being Herman. You're all horribly misled."

Let's just say I feel Epig has been a little more forceful in trying to defend himself than you, who are just sitting back nonchalantly.

i don't have a lot of time here, so I'm going to vote DP. He's on both lists of people who can be Herman, but has said virtually nothing about it except for one lone "I know I'm not Herman" post. I feel like he's trying to coast. Best I got with such a quiet day.

votes DP

Guys, I'm very busy today and won't be able to check back in until late tonight, but can someone other than DH or Epig tlel me whose set of names makes more sense? They've had opposing lists for a few days it seems, but I'm hoping a third party can shed some light on who is correct? (Or I'll do the damn work myself tonight, but I'm assuming at least one of you has worked it out for yourselves already?)

Interesting! Well, I now can say I have one person I trust, lol.

i don't trust any of you. I'm voting myself.

I'm barely following the logic you guys are using in regards to who could Herman, but how is it we have two separate conclusions being drawn? Epi has one list, DH has another.

That's a good question about boats... has he played MP games before? Would he know what a "Socky thing to do" is?

What are people's feelings about this "pick someone you trust" vote, which is apparently not a lynch? I haven't played many MP games, and whichever I did play were awhile now. Is this likely something special that he is going to do for a player? Is it nefarious? The portal ended up seeming exactly like how the portalscope described it, so maybe this is legit too?

And DP, considering that people have reduced the total number of players who could be Herman to about 3 names, and you are on it, maybe it's not the time to be flippant

And finally, "eff you buddeh" to whichever Resident took a shot at me.

Picked Portal 2, because who doesn't love a tie?

DharmaHelper wrote:I really think Droopy has been recruited.

me too.

I agree with JC that #2 sounds the best. The only question is, do we trust MP to make the one that very clearly sounds the best... the best?

Damn, FH

I'm busy with football and work today so I'm voting now. while the case against fh isnt perfect its tge best one I can see today. voting fh

So Droopy, no comment on your chaindeath vote?

SVS you seem to be awfully attack-y about Kate's death. It seems pretty clear how she died to me? Why attack anyone who seems to not be talking it, like you are? It's weird.

Trying to catch up, sorry guys.

So Kate reveals the secret about the eyeball, everyone realizes that chaindeath was bad, and then... droopy votes for him with a puffpiece of a reason post? Dude, you've so been recruited.

I'll add a vote to DF.

I've got no idea how I survived the lynch, if i had the most votes. I don't even know if I did have the most votes. I'm going to read back over everything tomorrow.

I'm at work on lunch and must vite now.

of the main cases I'm feeling more that trice slipped than anything else.

trice

@FH, I really can't say anything else about CBK's vote, I don't know why she thought the way she did, so can't answer for it.

But I notice instead of suggesting trice as a better lynch target than yourself, who made what looked like a slip last night and who has been going ater SVS for silly reasons apparently (I've got to read back on that), you are using the convenient placement of my predecessor's vote to suggest me instead. Why not Boomslang, whose vote is equally poorly situated?