The Syndicate

Maybe either instead of anyone?

Epignosis wrote:Professor Zoom (???????) – He wants to kill the Flash family more than anything else in the world. He’ll search every even night for a Flash. ~~ ~~ ~~~~s ~~~~~~ ~~~~~ ~~ ~~~~~, ~~~~ ~~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~.

If he finds anyone Flash at night, that Flash will die.

The syntax looks awkward to me, but I think that's the gist.

This can't be correct. Flash has an s in it.

Also possible LC didn't translate the tiles correctly? RIP llama. FWIW he was not the role I had him pegged as tentatively. But it's still a bad result

Roxy wrote:Ok but you reall didn't answer my question but I am assuming that no you would not find them genuine if they followed their own case.

Why are you being so defensive of llama?

FZ - Tbh when Epi hosts he never mk's non players and instead replaces them as soon as he is asked to otherwise they roll along without doing anything. I do not understand why heis so willing to lead a lynch on Elo (who by his words does not want to play) instead of getting her replaced. It goes against everything I Know about Epi inre: to replacements/nonplayers.

Believe it or not I have a role in mind for him already. Could be wrong.

Roxy wrote:
blindfaeth wrote:Bullz or Epi. That doesn't mean everyone else has to think the same way. I just don't think their suspicion of llama over someone else is genuine.
Here you say you want people to vote Bullz or Epi, but you go on to say not everyone has to think this way.

But then you continue and say that their suspicion of llama or someone else is not genuine.

Well which is it? How do you feel? Can others have suspicion of someone else and be genuine or must they vote how you wish them to in order to be considered genuine by you?

Of course, you can suspect whoever you want. All I'm saying, I think the non case on llama is crap.

Lol stick that crusty eyeball somewhere else

FYI I think the "I couldn't sleep" intro is just as weird as LCs "so I was thinking about epis case on elo"... They're both just adding in extra unneeded emphasis on the rest of their post IMO.

Spacedaisy wrote:
Epignosis wrote:And I had my reasons for voting FZ. even if I was wrong.
Holy shit y'all! It must be mighty cold in hell right now, I never thought I would ever see those words!

FZ. wrote:BF, if you'd rather find my suspicion of him not genuine, rather than this obvious lie, then I'd say either you're logic is very bad, or you're bad.
Yeah, I am feeling BF being civ less and less as time goes by. He totally mischaracterized your case against llama...

Re: Epi/Elo, I suspected that he was doing exactly what both he and his wife have said he was doing. I have done the same to Alex when I knew he needed to be putting his attention somewhere other than mafia.

I'm going to put my vote on Bf right now.... We'll see if anything changes my mind.

I disagree that it was a case lol. Idr if you were in the last game llama just hosted. But SVS hounded me for mischaracterizing her cases against me. And I ended up getting lynched day 1 as civ. Apparently it's something I do, oversimplify. But that's what it boils down to in my eyes and I think it's a weird reason to vote llama.

Lol but you did say you always play your baddie game

S~V~S wrote:Wow, busy day.

Re llama, this is exactly what he did in X Men; that does not make him a civ (or an Old Rogue or what have you). It kinda makes him a hypocrite~ he is always screaming to kill low posters becasue they are not helping the home team with their lack or participation. But then, carrying on endlessly about Morlocks or Monkeys or whatever does not help anyone, either. I see DHs point; I want to see if, now that the pregame is over, Llama steps up to the plate.

Yeah, it was SVS stating it originally. Then you post this.

Long Con wrote:So llama is deliberately trying to act in such a way that is like a previous Civ game? Is that supposed to make us think he's Civ in this one? Kind of heavy handed.

And this.

Long Con wrote:My vote is going to Llama, not that it will matter much for now, for playing the "just like Civvie Llama in X-Men" too hard. I also thought that the post about other ways Llama is "acting too Civvie-Llama" was a good read.

That's all you really say regarding him post day 0, so what other reason am I supposed to believe you had for voting him?

You said because he is deliberately acting how he did in xmen mafia where he was a civ. if I've misunderstood, please re explain. But that he's acting that way is an opinion, not solid evidence. Did you even investigate that assertion? If I recall correctly that was someone else's assessment.

There is no way to act civvie, so you're right, no need to worry about appearing some way to me.

Black Rock wrote:
blindfaeth wrote:I see what you're saying. He has definitely been over the top. I just don't believe that they genuinely think he is the best candidate for their vote at this point.
Who do you think would be the best candidate at this point?

Bullz or Epi. That doesn't mean everyone else has to think the same way. I just don't think their suspicion of llama over someone else is genuine.

I see what you're saying. He has definitely been over the top. I just don't believe that they genuinely think he is the best candidate for their vote at this point.

Black Rock wrote:
blindfaeth wrote:
Long Con wrote:My vote is going to Llama, not that it will matter much for now, for playing the "just like Civvie Llama in X-Men" too hard. I also thought that the post about other ways Llama is "acting too Civvie-Llama" was a good read.

Long Con wrote:
blindfaeth wrote:
Long Con wrote:My vote is going to Llama, not that it will matter much for now, for playing the "just like Civvie Llama in X-Men" too hard. I also thought that the post about other ways Llama is "acting too Civvie-Llama" was a good read.

blindfaeth wrote:
Would either of you like to explain this interaction?

BF, why the eye?

If you look three posts above my eye, I talk about how I find FZ fishy for investigating epi and llama and then saying they'll vote llama. Then immediately after LC did the same thing. Votes llama after analyzing epi. On the basis of llama is acting like civ llama.

Long Con wrote:My vote is going to Llama, not that it will matter much for now, for playing the "just like Civvie Llama in X-Men" too hard. I also thought that the post about other ways Llama is "acting too Civvie-Llama" was a good read.

I'm not liking the most recent couple of posts from fz that I've seen.

Fz analyzed Epi and llama and says will probably vote llama. I'm not buying it. The thoughts for Epi were more concrete and all fz had to say about llama is that he's acting exactly like civvie llama.

Bullzeye wrote:
blindfaeth wrote:I didn't need to defend, I was on the attack. You're being nonsensical. How did I do a no u? I pointed out something suspicious you did and suspected you for it. The very definition of a no u is that you suspected me first.
I said people are taking jokes too seriously. You seemingly saw that as "BF is a baddie because he's questioning Epi" and then said "Oh, are you and Epi teammates again then?". That to me looks like a pre-emptive NO U just in case I decided to build a case against you later on. Which I still don't plan on doing, just in case you're worried.

No. I saw it as "Bullzeye is a baddie subtly downplaying my assertion and protecting epi"

I didn't need to defend, I was on the attack. You're being nonsensical. How did I do a no u? I pointed out something suspicious you did and suspected you for it. The very definition of a no u is that you suspected me first.

Also, I think the sidekick comment was a very clever way of trying to accomplish what I've asserted previously that fits in with the theme and appears silly enough for day 0. While still accomplishing said goal and doing it sneakily. Epig has asserted he wouldn't be careless, but I don't think it would be obvious except that I pointed it out.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:
blindfaeth wrote:Also @svs, I think I know why ikr voted for you lol. I'm playing mafia on this new site, they call day one early votes the RVS or random voting stage. Ika typed your name as rvs. Just thought I'd point it out, since I noticed
Ooooooh, now I understand. At least MP isn't playing, because I know how he feels about random votes, and god-forbid, the dreaded self-vote.

Linki: I miss Boogs. *meow*

MM, what do you think of ika stating they didn't read the thread?

Metalmarsh89 wrote:
blindfaeth wrote:I am feeling really good about MM. We are seeing eye to eye this game.

I suspect epi and Bullzeye. I haven't forgotten my ping on made. Who seems to have disappeared.
And I'll be sniffing your ass all game if you know what I mean. :P

Hey now, let's not make boogs jealous :P

Also @svs, I think I know why ikr voted for you lol. I'm playing mafia on this new site, they call day one early votes the RVS or random voting stage. Ika typed your name as rvs. Just thought I'd point it out, since I noticed

I am feeling really good about MM. We are seeing eye to eye this game.

I suspect epi and Bullzeye. I haven't forgotten my ping on made. Who seems to have disappeared.

Bullzeye wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote: I would be willing to vote Bullzeye. While llama might be reaching with his reasoning, Bullzeye made a comment on Day 0 after Epignosis drew some heat that looked like he wanted to sweep it all under the rug.
SVS brought up the specific topics, and Bullzeye classified it all as "jokes", and that Day 0 is good for a laugh. And in the very last game, Bullzeye's baddie partner was (unjustly) framed and later lynched based on things that happened Day 0.
Did I specifically mention Epi at any point? Did I tell people not to look at him? No, and in fact I might even vote him myself based on more recent discussions based on things that aren't blatantly just fooling around. You're kinda misrepresenting the Zomba situation, it didn't even start until day one. Nobody had items on day zero. Nothing of significance happened on HSK's day zero.

Besides, do the baddies even have btsc? It doesn't look as though they do since one of them is searching for the others. So why would I defend Epi? And why would I do it in such a weak way? BF was the only person who really associated my comments with Epi, even I hadn't until he felt he had to defend himself.

No, no, friend. I didn't defend myself, you defended yourself.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote:
Bass_the_Clever wrote:TH do you believe epi about elo?
I don't. Elohcin was equally as inactive in LMS yesterday, though she did offer an explanation over there, and not here.
What don't you believe exactly?
I don't believe you want to lynch her because she is disinterested. You didn't have a single word to say about her until after I pointed out that she hadn't checked in, and after she commented on her Day 0 vote choice. You immediately said, "I want to lynch Elohcin", but then waited to offer any sort of explanation. I see this as a method to distract from your previous advertisement for a sidekick since that comment drew some heat. Do you still want to lynch Elohcin?
So you think me suspecting Elohcin of not being an old rogue based on reasons beyond her being busy (she is always busy) and not immediately offering those reasons is an attempt to distract people from something I kept doing on Day 0?

Interesting.

Do you have a vested interest in keeping someone alive who probably isn't an old rogue?
The Old Rogues are civilians and need the New Rogues and Grodd dead.

The Independent Rogues just need to survive.

The Arch-Villains have unknown win conditions (sound familiar?).

The Detectives need to imprison the New Rogues.

Aside from Grodd, who from these groups do I need dead?

I think that depends what group you are in yourself? I think it's age to say if you consider yourself a civ that we want new rogues and arch villains dead. I'm not sure about the detectives, but the independent rogues, depends who they want to side with.

DharmaHelper wrote:
Spacedaisy wrote:Did you want to?
I don't think he's a civvie. I don't like his whole Day 0 schtick, it got annoying very quickly. Also, I noticed he didn't berate anyone for any logical fallacies throughout the entire duration of Day 0. People were jumping to conclusions all over the place and Llama did not voice any opposition to it.

I don't know that I've ever seen llama voice opposition to logical fallacies? Can you give examples?

Long Con wrote:
Mister Rearranger wrote:Barry Allen – An intelligent forensic scientist and the first Flash. Barry Role Checks a dead player every night, also picking a letter from that player’s name. The chosen letter is solved in all secret role descriptions.
So... what letter would we like Barry Allen to pick tonight, for revealed secrets? I would like to go with a vowel, maybe an A or an E.

I agree.

Oh, look. Epignosis has an E in it. It also has an N and an S.

RSTLNE

Roxy wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
Turnip Head wrote:I don't think I've ever seen Epi call Elo out this early in the game. It has my attention. She's said two words so far. Which word did you find more suspicious, Epi?
All the ones she didn't say.

She strikes me as disinterested. She is never disinterested if she has BTSC. That means she isn't Captain Cold or Heat Wave. The possibility of BTSC would also keep her interested, so she isn't Golden Glider or Blacksmith. That means if she is an old rogue, she has to be Mirror Master, Weather Wizard, or The Trickster.

And if any of you are those roles, then it reduces her chances of being an old rogue even further for you.
You will, ofc, forgive me if I do not believe you straight away bc you have been wrong before.

Bf - I get what you are saying about the baddies signaling each other but I do not think Bullz is being dismissive nor do I feel you are defensive.

This is why I enjoy your company, you keep a cool open mind and perspective. Can you further explain why you don't find bullz dismissive?

Bullzeye wrote:
blindfaeth wrote:
Bullzeye wrote:
blindfaeth wrote:
Bullzeye wrote:
S~V~S wrote:Which jokes are you referring to?

Monkey Boys jokes? Epi searching for a sidekick? Or other?
A bit of both really. I always see day 0 as a doss, good for a laugh but not much else. I know I'm far from alone in that opinion. So it surprises me that so much seems to be being made out of so little.
No one is making it a big thing. Epignosis hasn't even really responded to it. I am not aggressively pursuing him. (Likely because there isn't a vote this period, but still :P ) It's not possible you are both bad two games in a row is it?
Sorry BF, did I touch a nerve there? Awfully defensive for someone who isn't being directly called out.
You're awfully dismissive of an idea that you shouldn't be opposed to. Whether it's what episode did or not, you can't deny that the baddies will be trying to signal to eachother.
I'm not being dismissive. All I'm saying is that in my opinion people seem to be taking silly day-0 jokes as if they were serious comments with no intended humour. I'm not saying anyone is suspicious for doing it or that it's being done maliciously. I didn't even mention you by name yet you seem to be quite stung by my comment.

I don't know why you'd expect otherwise... I was the originator of the theory, so you don't have to specifically call out my name to get my attention.

Help!

My behind has been branded by the marmot!

Bullzeye wrote:
blindfaeth wrote:
Bullzeye wrote:
S~V~S wrote:Which jokes are you referring to?

Monkey Boys jokes? Epi searching for a sidekick? Or other?
A bit of both really. I always see day 0 as a doss, good for a laugh but not much else. I know I'm far from alone in that opinion. So it surprises me that so much seems to be being made out of so little.
No one is making it a big thing. Epignosis hasn't even really responded to it. I am not aggressively pursuing him. (Likely because there isn't a vote this period, but still :P ) It's not possible you are both bad two games in a row is it?
Sorry BF, did I touch a nerve there? Awfully defensive for someone who isn't being directly called out.

You're awfully dismissive of an idea that you shouldn't be opposed to. Whether it's what episode did or not, you can't deny that the baddies will be trying to signal to eachother.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:
blindfaeth wrote:Maybe I'll change my avatar to a llama.
How about a pony with a marmot tattoo?

I love it! But it has to be no larger than 150 pixels to use

Made wrote:
blindfaeth wrote:She's suspicious of H, obviously. That's who she voted.

I think x, y and z are town, but a, b and c are shifty.
a b and c aren't even on the poll tho

A is. B and C are on vacation.

reywaS wrote:So so sorry. Not use to mafia been so long since I played. I'm here now. Won't miss anything else

How is the Bermuda Triangle? Is it cold and wet? How many people are there? Do mermaids exist?

She's suspicious of H, obviously. That's who she voted.

I think x, y and z are town, but a, b and c are shifty.

Epignosis wrote:I want to lynch Elohcin.

Why?

You're right, I won't. I'll keep my obnoxious pony fora while.

Maybe I'll change my avatar to a llama.

I re watched that spongebob clip and I forgot about the alternate version that plankton provides.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Have I ever told you that I like you too?

I think it just went without saying. I feel that I naturally get along with you. We should have BTSC sometime.

Bullzeye wrote:
S~V~S wrote:Which jokes are you referring to?

Monkey Boys jokes? Epi searching for a sidekick? Or other?
A bit of both really. I always see day 0 as a doss, good for a laugh but not much else. I know I'm far from alone in that opinion. So it surprises me that so much seems to be being made out of so little.

No one is making it a big thing. Epignosis hasn't even really responded to it. I am not aggressively pursuing him. (Likely because there isn't a vote this period, but still :P ) It's not possible you are both bad two games in a row is it?

Um,

pardon my french but

does anyone know....

why there is a MONKEY in this game? :P

Sophie wrote:
blindfaeth wrote:Hi sophie! Are you going to change your avatar? I'm used to you picking such attractive women and now you have some creepy old man

So made, now that you know your theory about gems is not correct, what do you think is more plausible? And will your new conclusion cause you to change your vote?
hi bf!! creepy old man?? thats larry david, the funniest coolest nicest smartest awesomest person in the entire universe!!!

but i was thinking about changing it anyway so i didnt put an attractive woman, but a photo of myself, more honest :P

Oh, I think you're beautiful!

Epignosis wrote:
Turnip Head wrote:I applied to be Epi's sidekick because no one else did and I wanted to see what would happen next. Not everything that happens is a crazy baddie ploy
It's quite simple. You do everything I tell you, and if you discover something suspicious, you say, "Holy blindfaeth in a noose, Epignosis!"

And this would be his hint to plunder to NK me :P

I've played in a game where the baddies didn't have BTSC. In fact I was one of them. Trust me, they are going to drop hints

Spacedaisy wrote:
blindfaeth wrote:
Spacedaisy wrote:
blindfaeth wrote:
Turnip Head wrote:I don't understand your comparison of FZ and Daisy responding to LC's analysis but not responding to your scumhunting, BF. How do those two things correlate?
I was just pointing out they said LCs analysis was the only noteworthy that happened yesterday, but I was posting real content too.

Linki. Why so defensive? All I did was mention something I noticed. I didn't expect anything.
I'm not defensive, I was confused and trying to understand what the heck you were saying and why. Also, I didn't say nothing was noteworthy, I was commenting on the one thing that jumped out at me.
OK. You're right, I saw summarizing two similar posts but that is a fundamental difference between yours and FZs. Do you have any suspicions yet?
No I don't really at the moment. I didn't really even find LC suspect for his statement, because making indies look civ hardly reads baddie to me, even if he was ding it intentionally which he doesn't seem to have been. Llama seems his normal self, though he is trying to draw attention to himself. Otherwise we have all just been chilling, having fun, nothing that seems off to me. I think I missed why you felt like Ika was suspicious?

Oh that's old news, I have bigger fish to fry. The baddies in this game don't start with BTSC and one of them looks for the others every night. Epignosis asked who wanted to be his sidekick. I think that was a way of looking for teammates in-thread. TH responded. Why would TH want to be a sidekick when we voted him our forums champion?

L is my second choice after S. I learned from wheel of Fortune after all. RSTLNE

Ebwop: was summarizing.

Mandi, I thought I was crazy for a second before I realized Mandi is for amanda? I was like Mandi doesn't start with A!

Spacedaisy wrote:
blindfaeth wrote:
Turnip Head wrote:I don't understand your comparison of FZ and Daisy responding to LC's analysis but not responding to your scumhunting, BF. How do those two things correlate?
I was just pointing out they said LCs analysis was the only noteworthy that happened yesterday, but I was posting real content too.

Linki. Why so defensive? All I did was mention something I noticed. I didn't expect anything.
I'm not defensive, I was confused and trying to understand what the heck you were saying and why. Also, I didn't say nothing was noteworthy, I was commenting on the one thing that jumped out at me.

OK. You're right, I saw summarizing two similar posts but that is a fundamental difference between yours and FZs. Do you have any suspicions yet?

Metalmarsh89 wrote:
Turnip Head wrote:That doesn't sound like much fun.
I think it is hilarious. That's why I voted H.

It can happen to everyone eventually.

Did I ever mention that I like you?

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