The Syndicate

Kate wrote:
blindfaeth wrote:Oh well, I think I played a pivotal role in the civvie's win, so I'm happy. It was fun having to be a middle-man between juliets my original teammate, and indi/dfaraday, the civvie team that found me. And we acquired FH on the way. I got the staff which I think saved us a lot of headache on two lynch days, got the brooch and voted the knife that helped get the right person lynched another day.

FYI for timmer, the couple times that I voted you, it was because skeletor made me.

I should have realized it was timmer sooner. From my knife PM I knew the people tying was a thing going on, and when I used my brooch on llama i knew he was sharing with timmer, so in retrospect it was kind of obvious what was going on, but I was blinded by his helpfulness in the earlier part of the game. In fact I don't blame FH because I began to suspect her as well.

Anyway, I had a lot of fun, just sad that I lived so long only to die at the very end. I still cant believe I survived that day 1 lynch. Everything went just perfectly for me. My teammate at the time was reptaronice, who never posted if I recall correctly, and i found Juliets as a replacement <3. Anyway, he just happened to drop in and vote boomslang to try and save me, and I'll never understand why. Two people who would have voted me didnt make it to the poll in time, He-Man voted boomslang, his own teammate instead of me, everything just lined up. And apparently Timmer ultimately decided to keep me alive over boomslang. To think I was on the brink of death like that day 1 and made it all the way to end game is incredible. I didn't have any sort of NK protection, so TBH I'm not sure why anyone kept me around - after about halfway through the game I'd argue I wasn't suspicious enough that anyone would lynch me until I was one of the last options.
I could never tell if I was successful or not but I protected you many times.

Thank you!!

Oh well, I think I played a pivotal role in the civvie's win, so I'm happy. It was fun having to be a middle-man between juliets my original teammate, and indi/dfaraday, the civvie team that found me. And we acquired FH on the way. I got the staff which I think saved us a lot of headache on two lynch days, got the brooch and voted the knife that helped get the right person lynched another day.

FYI for timmer, the couple times that I voted you, it was because skeletor made me.

I should have realized it was timmer sooner. From my knife PM I knew the people tying was a thing going on, and when I used my brooch on llama i knew he was sharing with timmer, so in retrospect it was kind of obvious what was going on, but I was blinded by his helpfulness in the earlier part of the game. In fact I don't blame FH because I began to suspect her as well.

Anyway, I had a lot of fun, just sad that I lived so long only to die at the very end. I still cant believe I survived that day 1 lynch. Everything went just perfectly for me. My teammate at the time was reptaronice, who never posted if I recall correctly, and i found Juliets as a replacement <3. Anyway, he just happened to drop in and vote boomslang to try and save me, and I'll never understand why. Two people who would have voted me didnt make it to the poll in time, He-Man voted boomslang, his own teammate instead of me, everything just lined up. And apparently Timmer ultimately decided to keep me alive over boomslang. To think I was on the brink of death like that day 1 and made it all the way to end game is incredible. I didn't have any sort of NK protection, so TBH I'm not sure why anyone kept me around - after about halfway through the game I'd argue I wasn't suspicious enough that anyone would lynch me until I was one of the last options.

I cant believe you voted to kill me FH!

The game won't end I assure you, because I'm not bad. Sucks I lasted so long to have the victory stolen from me :/ oh well gl civvies. Voted Eloh.

I think I trust timmer and FH and Eloh. I think FH might be onto something with llamas Rez, it happened twice after all.

ugh who is the last baddie >:(

well but we know that Zodac killed just the other night, is that indicative he tried to kill again?

TBH I don't think killing Zodac or the sorceress would be a necessary action for the civvies to take just based on the series, they were, in general, very helpful. I think maybe theres one baddie left or a recruit? Yes I agree that perhaps the night post will shed some light.

ugh so do we think we need to lynch the indy or lynch a baddie/recruit??

fwiw I voted galaxy.

Is it possible aces or nevin are bad? or do you guys think its possible zodacs win condition doesnt mesh with ours?

What, why isn't the game over??

Nevinera wrote:Hi! I'm completely new, so tell me - who can I trust around here? ;-)

Umm, hello lol.

So who wants to give Nevin the 18-day summary?

timmer wrote:There is no way DP is Heman or Shera. His posts yesterday were those of a baddie waiting to pull a trick, nit someone with a major civ role.

I must say I have to agree. He-Man and She-Ra are also big ?'s on my spread sheet unfortunately.

I think he's still the way to go-

RIPIYWG Kate and good post Epig-

FH I'm not sure, how is your spreadsheet looking regarding He-Man/She-Ra. Its possible DP had baddie shenanigans but he could also have transformed.

ill fight.

also, I kind of want to make a circle, so I'm going to go left, left, left, left. xD

thellama73 wrote:
Flyin' High wrote:So at best the only mafia still alive is Shadow Weaver. At worst Shadow Weaver and Merman. However, Merman's role says he searches the waterways for relics every night. And last night there were no missing PMs. Coupled with the info learned on the night we all learned stuff saying that Snake Mountain only had one left, I think we only need to find Shadow Weaver.

According to my spreadsheet, the only possible people that fit that role are DP, Kate, and the_untamed. I ruled out Aces because the Horde tried to kill him Night 3 (but maybe that's a red herring?). And I ruled out IMC because I believe he did not have BTSC with MP. Now, since Shadow Weaver's role is secret, it's unclear if he has to send in a PM every night. So I don't think we can rule out the_untamed.

I have been trusting Kate for a long time and I'm hard pressed to believe that she is Horde.

So for me it's really down to DP or the_untamed.

Thoughts?
My thoughts are that you are wise to trust Kate and wise to rule out Aces as Horde. I agree with your analysis completely, except I think blindfaeth deserves a look at well. I am still not convinced that our info about only one Snake Mountain member is good, though.

llama, I'm really disappointed that you still suspect me, but let me try to alleviate that suspicion. If you are concerned that I might be Snake Mountain, I’ll point out that rey pushed hard to put me in the spotlight day 1, and that I was in the top three vote getters that day, of which the other two were both on Snake Mountain. It is very unlikely 3 top vote receivers that day would be mafia IMO.

If you’re concerned about me being on the Horde, I’ll point out my info dump that helped do MP’s team in, if I hadn’t spilled that the votes were shifting down on the poll that lynch would have been a mess. The only others who’d voted that option were MP and Aces, so you couldn’t have counted on anyone else.

If you have any further concerns/questions, I’d love to address them, just let me know. You are looking in the wrong direction when you mention me, I promise you.

Hmm maybe kate was skeletor'd to vote Aces.

Anyway I voted rey and I'm hoping for the best. Though I am a little sad because what rey says is true, and we don't really have a case lol. But the reason I'm voting Rey is for all that went down Day 1. He argued with me so hard over that stridor issue and I screamed at the top of my lungs that he was bad and to lynch him the next day if I died. Well I survived but no one even gave me any attention, if I was right well poo on all of you

I would be ok with rey as well. I've never forgot what he did to me day 1

fwiw i voted rattlor

Sorry I missed the vote

That's a good point FH. Self targeting in this game isn't allowed.

Woohoo! Great post epig and thank you for hosting

So who do we think are the last couple baddies? You know, besides timmer :o

Voted timmer

yes sry talking about timmer though I can see why it was confusing, poor linguistics on my part

I'm thinking about voting timmer, in my eyes stormcrow is the equivalent of an outed baddie but I haven't forgotten that hes likely an Indy and we aren't sure of his affiliation.

Voted llama and elohcin, rip LT

Lame I hate my phone. I definitely clicked on stormcrow in the poll and hit submit. I'm sorry everyone ill try to pay more attention. I've been busy and distracted. Good news is I'm no longer an intern I got hired full time.

Vote sc

timmer wrote:And any chance of that vote being a mistake went out the window when the vote post was followed one minute later with mp's FEB face.

I agree, her pleas may have made me question my suspicion if not for this "oops" moment.

Well how rude, Spikor beat me

anyone have any ideas for what weapon Skeletor should be given? I'd like to see how this guy delivers it, and to whom

I'm thinking the claws might be the best option? The battle axe makes me think he'll be able to take himself off the lynch poll or dodge a lynch or something bc of the stone. And armor could be something similar as well. I'd rather he have some sort of offensive ability. in fact, the battle axe seems like it would be both offensive and defensive, so thats definitely my least favorite choice.

Well I'm glad it all worked out. Bye-bye MP it was long overdue

At last someone will believe me about Stormcrow, too

Great posts Epig!

well if everyone on his team uses that potion that we got then he'll be at like -3 votes or something and then technically everyone but him will be tied for lynch, so no, i dont think thats a good idea lol.

RIP indi!

Yes i was wondering the same thing, do we need to worry that the votes may be shifting up or down etc again, or do you think that was a one-time use thing? If we are worried about that potentially happening, rey might be a good choice, since if it shifts one up, we hit MP, and if we shift down, we hit stormcrow. But I'm unsure about rey, so if it doesn't shift at all, that could be a problem.

Well, I look forward to seeing FH/LT's conclusions on the votes and whether this type of manipulation has possibly been used before.

woot got a baddie. wonderful storytelling as always

also, I didn't click on the fourth ingredient I wanted to click by mistake, *facepalm*, I don't suppose the host is forgiving in that regard?

I'll also vote rey in hopes of getting spaghetti.

LittleTiger wrote:
reywaS wrote:The crown told me that "Skeletor has accepted an invitation from Hordak". It also said that "whatever magic that has been protecting Hordak during the Day have been exhausted.”
Does this imply they have joined forces?

Id say so

LittleTiger wrote:
blindfaeth wrote:
LittleTiger wrote:I am leaning towards a vote for Aces, which should be a vote for BF and thus also for MP.
Why?
Didn't someone say you would survive?

I tell you what, this Day is giving me a MASSIVE HEADACHE!

Yes, timmer, who now thinks im bad. Why do I get the feeling he was the one able to help me survive?

LittleTiger wrote:I am leaning towards a vote for Aces, which should be a vote for BF and thus also for MP.

Why?

>SpaghettiEverywhere wrote:
blindfaeth wrote:
>SpaghettiEverywhere wrote:
blindfaeth wrote:Civvies lying about how much info they have is one thing. Lying about being stinkified is another. It reeks of a baddie wanting to fly under the radar bc no one can understand u.
Ha, I'd think lying about how much info you have is waaaay worse. And I never said you were lying. Are you saying that you were lying? I had a perfectly legitimate reason to lie about it, I wanted to know more about it and it's effects
Thats not true, knowing things can make u a big nk target. Plus some info is best left not shared in fear the baddies will get their hands on it.
Look, I never said you were lying about the information or withholding anything. But I think that lying about information is realllyyy bad because you could send all the civvies on the wrong course. So don't lie about anything and we're all good

So who is your fourth teammate, I dont know that yet. U know, since we arent lying or withholding info lol.

>SpaghettiEverywhere wrote:
blindfaeth wrote:Civvies lying about how much info they have is one thing. Lying about being stinkified is another. It reeks of a baddie wanting to fly under the radar bc no one can understand u.
Ha, I'd think lying about how much info you have is waaaay worse. And I never said you were lying. Are you saying that you were lying? I had a perfectly legitimate reason to lie about it, I wanted to know more about it and it's effects

Thats not true, knowing things can make u a big nk target. Plus some info is best left not shared in fear the baddies will get their hands on it.

LittleTiger wrote:
blindfaeth wrote:Timmer I know because the knife told me how much everyones votes are worth and iused logic. I know that dom is also stinkified. All threeof you had the same vote worth. The fact mp hasnt bedn around but is posting elsewhere verifies its true
And it also told you that votes move down?

As far as I can tell it told me about all lynch manipulations. Whether that be vote worth, people starting with fewer votes, etc. if u need proof I know how much yours is worth.

Civvies lying about how much info they have is one thing. Lying about being stinkified is another. It reeks of a baddie wanting to fly under the radar bc no one can understand u.

Timmer I know because the knife told me how much everyones votes are worth and iused logic. I know that dom is also stinkified. All threeof you had the same vote worth. The fact mp hasnt bedn around but is posting elsewhere verifies its true

Ok well I suppose I have more info I can disclose. Since no one is cooperating in being unified lol.

Frankly I'm surprised you haven't mentioned this timmer.

Anyone wonder why MP hasn't been talking? It's because he's stinkified. And those of you who have been stinkified, know how that affects your vote. My concern is that if we split our votes among a baddie and a non-baddie accidentally, we could easily have a mislynch from mp sneaking in at the very end with his vote.

Linki: sigh

Kate wrote:
blindfaeth wrote:now im not cross-checking things to take into account attempted kills on players etc but based on what I know and under the assumption the last snake mountaineer has to be at least active enough to log into the website, I think they have to be one of rey, Aces, DP, or Kate. And yes I know Kate is going to throw a fit at me saying I always think she's bad lol.

When I thought there were two SM left, I thought any of Dom, Ishar, the_untamed were also possibilities, but since they haven't logged in to send in PMs, I highly doubt this is the case now.
*throws fit...and throws blindfaeth through a window*

you DID say next game did you not?

Kate wrote:
Kate wrote:It shifts doww?
Or up?

Down

timmer wrote:I could get behind an indiglo/ishar lynch as well, the only thing is, I can't see either of them being Snake Mountain, whereas there is at least a chance one of either Aces or rey or spaghetti being SM, imo.

I like your first two ideas a lot better, but I still feel most comfortable with spaghetti/stormcrow. I don't trust Rey, but I'm not sure about him. However since I know my information to be true I'd be fine voting this way as spaghetti would get the axe.

I'm guessing you can't disclose any additional info asto why I'd survive, because while I want to trust you, I just can't think of a way I'd be protected. The thought of it just makes me nervous.

Kate wrote:Ok. The flower told me what items some players hold. I really don't want to say it out loud to make them targets on the off chance storm crow is not bad.

I agree that's probably a bad one to share if there were any doubt in your mind.

So who are we leaning towards? I like the idea of voting spaghetti best, so that SC gets lynched. And for everyone skeptical about the votes shifting the bonus is we're voting spaghetti, I just think its win/win.

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