The Syndicate

Yes epis games are awesome. I also really liked masters of the universe.

Sophie, I had my doubts about you, but in the end I knew in my heart you were civvie. I was sad I was wrong about bea, but her noninvolvement had me worried.

Linki, maybe so lol!

Golden wrote:You had bad luck all around sophie.

I was hoping you would be jessica rabbit. I don't think I've ever actually got to have civvie btsc with you. But I wish I had got to with elo

I'm glad I got to win with you!

Sorry fs for not sending my pm. But I didn't trust anyone and purposely wanted everyone to be up for lynch. Lol!

Were you counting y as a vowel?

Lol I had no idea any of this was going on. Still, I managed to mostly call out the right people, which makes me happy.

Also, I am a boy

Sorry, voted now

Well regardless of who it is you played a great game and I applaud you.

I hope I'm not being duped but guess I gotta vote MP

Maybe some sort of role that stole first deadie power? Maybe Dom was that role?

My main concern is, where is the actual role he's posing as. And how would he know it was safe to pursue these shenanigans?

I think the case is pretty damning. But I also realize that if what mp is selling is true, this is the critical point in the game where al it takes is one of the civs to be convinced to vote wrong.

I'm not buying it.. Two baddies would require Canuck AND fs to be bad. I think it's feasible that one could be but not both. Sophie pretty much cleared rabbit and confirmed ninja as bad for me.

I could be wrong, but now that I think about it, fs may be Beas other half? Could explain why she seemed so certain she wasn't bad.

I swear I'm never trusting anyone again lol this is mind blowing. If MP is bad, to think that we were correct golden!! Doesn't that frustrate you??

Ok so I thought about the possibility of mp being bad.

Someone, maybe Sophie, (rip btw- love you!) thought I could be bad because I'd called out all the baddies, yet I'm still alive. Let's think about this for a moment. Why would they keep me alive, considering?

Simple. Not only re: my role are there bigger fish to fry, but in a twisted way MPs theoretical twisted trick actually would make me an asset to him. And even if you look past my role, I'm outspoken and relatively trusted this game.

When was the last time anyone got potentially tricked by him anyways?

That would make me feel better, since I was totally convinced he was bad until he convinced me otherwise. And it would make sense why the lynch was switched to Golden. But can you elaborate any?

I didn't forget. I chose not to.

Oh look at that. Benny removed Lena from the poll.

It is FS. That is the way to vote today. It is the most sure I've felt in a long time.

Elohcin wrote:Actually, three hour days may work if all alive players were around today. We'd probably finish before bed time

By the way, all who care...
I was 30 lbs down today!!! I'm officially pre-Abigail weight. 10 more to go. Yay for gettin' sexy for my man and feeling so much better about myself!

congrats elo! That's awesome.

Then, let me give you a hint.

Take into consideration the days I was absent due to my cruise.

Ok well give me better ideas.

My role is so easy to figure out it isn't funny.

Sophie I was also wrong a lot. The majority of that post was about rAbbit. I did not vote bea because I expected you to be lynched. I voted bea because re the discussions we had last night I felt the case against her was more compelling.

Taking you for your word, and taking rabbit and mp off my list, assuming golden was rezzed good, I'm forced to think fs. I still am just not suspicious of Canuck.

Rip bea!

Voting me tomorrow won't win the game for the civs I promise. I am flattered you think I'd be capable of this but you're wrong, I'll try my best to ease your doubt.

blindfaeth wrote:
Lena Hyena wrote:Except... zombs had the curse without dying, so I am wrong lol.

But I still think herman silenced rabbit.
Or he's sitting back and laughing at us as we fight eachother lol. I swear I'm so paranoid

From I believe sophie though

Lena Hyena wrote:Except... zombs had the curse without dying, so I am wrong lol.

But I still think herman silenced rabbit.

Or he's sitting back and laughing at us as we fight eachother lol. I swear I'm so paranoid

Lena Hyena wrote:This is paranoia central lol.

BF, you trust MP? I was just gonna say his vote of bea leaves me mistrusting him lol...

Hopefully it is bea.

@splints - is rabbit not cursed? Has he spoken today?

As other people have mentioned the only way I see MP being bad is if there is a duplicate baddie ability. But does anyone have any sort of clue who could be the role he'd be posing as?

Whoa whoa whoa. Don't lynch BF. I have worked too hard for this. You should trust your instinct. I think you've pegged me correctly. I chose not to do anything last night. The only person I'm sure of being good is MP.

Linki

I am at friends house. Caught up but don't want to miss the vote. I still think it's bea so I'm voting there.

I think I will be voting bea.

blindfaeth wrote:My list.

1. Bea
2. Rabbit
3. Sophie
4. Fs
5. Lena
6. MP
7. BF

LOL forgot canuck again. Lets put her between lena and MP.

My list.

1. Bea
2. Rabbit
3. Sophie
4. Fs
5. Lena
6. MP
7. BF

fingersplints wrote:
blindfaeth wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote: What is everyone else thinking? I feel we definitely need to see if we can have more discussion today because there was not enough last Day period.
Yeah, there was definitely not enough chatter last day period. And the vote was super scattered because of it.

I think my gut is telling me bea or zombs, personally. I'd also like to point spotlights at Bass and nijuu - if for no other reason, I sense they are flying way under the radar. I don't hear them being mentioned enough at all. Does anyone have a reason these two could be naughty? Their relative silence makes me nervous-
I had the same feeling about both. I always get a bit paranoid about quieter players since they seem careful and don't really post enough to give you any reason to be able to suspect them. I'm not sure if I would consider either quieter then normal. I'm trying to compare ninja's game now to when I have seen her as a baddie, but I can only think of Zelda she was bad in. so I'm curious what llama thinks since he was her teammate that game. (I guess Elo too since she was her teammate that game too. no offense Elo, but I trust llama more this game, and that's the only reason I am more curious what he thinks)
I don't know about bass. I was giving him the BOTD for all the game since he has RL stuff, but i agree he should be looked closer at. I am not suspicious of him for voting me, but I don't like that he still really hasn't elaborated. I guess I just feel that if he was bad, he would have voted for one of the more serious vote getters instead of voting for me. but I'd have to check the timing of his vote and how many were placed/left to see. When I saw his mom last though, she did say he learned everything he knows about mafia from SVS, so he might be more devious then expected

FS, can you explain why you went from agreeing with me about bea and zomb here to thinking bea is civ?

This post reads genuine to me but it could also be subtly defending nijuu and bass.

fingersplints wrote:
Zomberella12 wrote:I used to suspect Elo and now I do not.
Elo used to suspect me and now she does not.

Based on that, I think that we should all look to lynch players who are laying low, still posting, but not contributing. Not that it matters I guess. In this game, the people we lynch never die. Maybe I should be begging you all to vote for me. (Not really, don't vote for me).

@ MP - You can't compare my baddie hunting in this game with my campaign against Snowman. That wouldn't be fair. I have been actively hunting Llama who I think is bad. He doesn't post so no one else agrees, but in time, I think you will all see that I am right about him.

@ Splints - Really? You think I've been bad this whole game? Well, nice of you to say so now that others brought it up.

@ Llama - Since I have been gunning for you for several days, I don't think it's a no U to say, "let's all talk about Llama." Early votes, doesn't post, votes without reasons, could easily be masterminding the lynch hyjinks.

Wtf are you talking about nice of me to bring it up now? I've voted for you in the past. and have said already before my suspicion of you was as strong as ever

This exchange felt genuine to me, but what do others think.

Sorry I can't be as conclusive as I wanted. But now I'm being wishy washy. Let me get my thoughts out quick.

So day one she wasn't suspicious of aces but was of zomb, can see that being good or bad. Also doesn't suspect bass for a while but is one of the individuals pressing him which leads to the fake slip.

fingersplints wrote:
Zomberella12 wrote:@Llama and MP - How to you feel about Golden's vote? Is it legit?

linki - I was thinking the same think about Llama.

@ Golden - You do have a case against Aces, but it's not really fair to say that the case on MM is pointless. I brought it up earlier too. Early votes, even self-votes, aren't helpful and could be a signal of a baddie trying to hide. Have you ever seen a baddie do this before? If yes, then it is fair to look at MM and Llama too. I'm just saying that we don't have very much to go on yet. If we vote Aces and he flips civ, then we just lost a huge asset. If we vote MM or Llama and they flip civ, then we just lost a joker early voter. I'm still trying to decide where to put my vote (and that does not make me a flip-floper! It makes me thoughtful).
I feel like you are defending Aces way too much. How much have you played with Aces? What makes him a "huge asset" over llama or MM?

I think I still trust fs but I'll try to lay out why. For one, she is the first to point out zombras huge asset comment. Which haunts her all game tbh.

What else was weird about that 3 stones post was at the time I don't think anyone else even considered rabbit as being suspicious bc of the lynch switch. Maybe she was trying to subtly plant the idea he could have done it also in our heads.

Boogs says he's the only good kitty and that beat a naughty kitty

Also, during canuck lynch, bea was acting like she had no idea who to vote and tbh we had pretty terrible suspicions at the time, I think llama had voted zomb and a couple voted LC but we were largely scattered and wrong that day. When br made a case on canuck she latched on, maybe it's so she could blend in with the other three voters.

bea wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:Also, I was thinking about the lynch some more, and IIRC, there was at least one player around at the time who missed the vote. I had 5 votes and rabbit had 4. Anyone think it's possible that a baddie lynch switch was used on rabbit's behalf? I'm not sure I believe that myself, but thought I'd throw it out there since I had thought of it.
Who are you thinking of MP?

IDK if it was used on wabbit's behalf. From what I remember of him bts -he wouldn't want the attention drawn to himself especially if he was down a vote. Close is close, but IDK if he'd risk making the switch or telling teammates bts to do so. Could wabbit be bad and they did it w/o talking to him? Sure. I just don't really get the baddie vibe from wabbit yet. TBH, I'm more inclined it was a 3 birds one stone sort of gig. Makes both you and wabbit look bad, gets rid of Civ Golden. That's a baddie win, win win right there.

Was this theory thrown out there because it is completely true? Is that what her team planned?

I'll also note that almost half of beans posts are from day 0 and day 1. See for yourself.

bea wrote:Oh -now that was a fun read. I'm sorry I didn't get to keep up at the DMV - I kept getting paranoid they would call my number and I'd miss it. Then hit the grocery and started dinner.

anyway - I was going to toss the vote on LC to cover our selves but I see we have a couple with votes and with the potential for manips - might as well take care of the bird in our hand first.

*voting bass*

also - I srrsly want to see someone try to convince wabbit that LC is god. I want that so badly. Preferably when I've been drinking.

voting bass btw -

elo - are you saying - bass intentionally took a dive for his baddie team - potentially none of who were up for lynch - and in doing that - made up a fake message inplicating LC just to take a civ down with him? I mean - because the message looks a lot like it was supposed to be a bts message as it doesn't relate to the thread like at all - soooo - why would he fake the message in the first place? It seems like bad baddie logic to sacrafice yourself and get lynched just to take down someone you can NK. Ya know?

I want to understand what you are implying - but I can't recifiy how the first half of his post was a 'true slip" and the second half that names LC was "taking a civ down with him" - Please help me understand what you are trying to say here.

To clarify that post was following this one, during the bass lynch. But you know what still irks me to this day is a different post I'll pull in a few.

bea wrote:fanfracking taskic - stuck in linki so long I missed the damn vote.

*sigh*

srrsly you guys - between my "not responding" messages from firefox and fracking linki - Im gonna blow a fuse soon.

I started this post 8 minutes ago...

OH look another missed vote for a baddie

Ebwop, she'd have voted zomb.

In between those posts, there are only two and she never says anything that declares suspicion or intent to vote that way.

bea wrote:Damnit! I am the suck. would have went zombra. I felt lc was genuine. Lets see if he tricked me I guess.

Then she didn't vote but said she'd vote zomb. Why? What changed her mind?

bea wrote:I'm also confused about the zombra suspish.

Well for bea.. There is this on day 6.. More to come

So I got distracted sorry. Was reading fs which led me to her post on sophie from Disney mafia so I started reading that. And she is acting completely different. That was a long time ago, but she was practically absent from the thread.

I actually thought lena was JC lol. But I also wasn't fishing to find out.

I'll mention we don't know for sure nijuu is bad though.. All we know is nijuu survived a lynch right? Which means one or the other is the civ and both can't be bad. Is it possible nijuu was good.? Jeez I'm paranoid. OK looking at fs again. I just want to make sure we're not ignoring anyone..

Yeah, after scanning her posts, I'm really not suspicious of her at all. So let's talk about why we are clearing fs. And me for that matter, since I don't want to pretend I'm invisible.

Well let me pose you this question sophie since we want to consider all angles. Why are we clearing canuck? I need to reread. I seem to recall thinking canuck was good for assisting in the bass lynch but we know it was a fake slip so why wouldn't his teammate try to get civ cred out of it? Let me look back I could be completely wrong.

blindfaeth wrote:Ok so I've done some thinking.

Re: what I posted last night, I tried stepping back and taking a fresh perspective on a couple things, namely my opinion that MP was bad. I think it's funny how sometimes, rereading things you interpret stuff differently. In the heat of the actual moments where MP was trying very hard to convince everyone not to lynch him (ending in Goldens demise ultimately), I thought he wasn't being genuine. Probably had a lot to do with Holdens death and I felt MP was responsible. Golden is one of my closest mafia buddies and I was excited for his return, I felt he was taken from me way too early.

That's all to say, with a fresh set of eyes, I do see his cries as being genuine. I know this contradicts my ridiculous claim yesterday that I couldn't foresee myself voting anyone else, but I am dropping it for now. I hope that everyone agrees this is for the best, because that was really closed minded of me.

Anyway, so I decided to read Sophie's posts, and I'm actually a little alarmed. I don't know its enough to vote her but I may have been blinded by her agreeing with me so much? It just seems like the past couple days she's only been hounding mp. The only other person I can recall off the top of my head she mentioned recently was Juliet's who is now dead bc of the weasels.

Sophie, do you suspect anyone besides MP at this point? I don't think this railroading of MP we've been doing, regardless of whether were right, is productive anymore.

I'm just worried that maybe I was wrong seeing civvie Sophie, because you seemed like her early game and were buddying up with me a little bit. If you're civvie please prove me wrong! I want to drop this feeling that you could be manipulating me. Just some friendly suspicion, but if you give me reason to let it dwell I will pursue this.

That being said, the fact that a lot of her and my opinions thus far seem to have been in the minority, makes me feel a little better, since the mafia likes to blend in and avoid suspicion. I can admire her sticking to her guns.

You may have something there with bass, Canuck, I'll think that over - we really need to pull through today and vote as a unit. Please, let's not spread the vote so thin.

I think this was it. Not as big as I remembered tbh but whatever.

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