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Oh, andMovingPictures07 wrote:I'll do a rainbow list later once I've had time to dig into some ISOs. For now, a GTH reads list:
Daisy - Town
DDL - Town
Dom - Mafia
Epi - Town
JoH - Town
LC - Town
Quin - Mafia
sig - Town
Sorsha - Mafia
If no one hints at roles, problem solved.Long Con wrote:Ha.
My concern is that the Troupe has that dead role checker, and that they will begin to try and hint at being roles that they know are dead and gone. It might have already happened.
Nope.Long Con wrote:One to three.Are you one of them?
If you are one of them... I will figure you out.
That's a fair perspective. I'm not sure I'm willing to agree he's ton tons of town things, but I'm given pause.Dragon D. Luffy wrote:Iirc Epi doesn't believe in "things that make you town". I'm pretty sure I've seen him argue that in another game before. And he was town. So your request is moot.MovingPictures07 wrote:That's all fair, and I think every other player in this thread should analyze your behavior and see if they think it fits within a framework compatible with you being Elo's teammate.Epignosis wrote:The alternative is that you do believe I did all those things. Do you believe I raised the first suspicion of my teammate (specifically, my wife), backed off, and then put my foot to the pedal again, only to suspect her of being on the other team (on the basis of her insinuating that she knew Wilgy was bad)? Do you believe I am responsible for the shitty curses we've witnessed, like calling me "Sir" or making people post food items or saying "as a baddie?"* Do you believe my kill recommendations would have been soup (who wasn't participating) and sig (who doesn't think I'm bad)?MovingPictures07 wrote:Also, Epi, your continued insistence that you wouldn't "do ________" if bad is nonsense. I don't give your WIFOM defenses any serious consideration.
There's always healthy suspicion of me- I worked hard to keep it that way. But at some point you have to look at everything that has transpired in this particular context and consider that, maybe, just maybe, "Yeah, none of that shit makes sense if Epi is bad."
*No offense to the curse author- your curses are lovely works of art and you should be proud of yourself.
I just find it notable that you continually choose to highlight all the ways you wouldn't be doing all the things the mafia are doing. It's not necessary and conjures up WIFOM. Instead you could just emphasize the things you have done that make you town, not "not mafia". Does that make sense?
And for that matter, I've seen him do a lot of things that look like town to me. I specially liked that post where he speculates on Dom's role. That is difficult to fake. I'm more worried about him faking it, that's it.
To certain people perhaps.Long Con wrote:That is not my theory.Golden wrote:Dom could be on sprit's old team but look how elo hounded him!
Would you say you have a lot to offer this game?MovingPictures07 wrote:It's this new skin I'm trying out.Long Con wrote:I like your attitude. I wish I could be more like you.MovingPictures07 wrote:And by "us", I mean everyone that's looking for them. I don't care too much.
Golden wrote:Eloh could have dead teammates, but we know the team isn't gone entirely. Of those left I genuinely believe there are good reasons, based solely on Eloh's behaviour, to assume that Daisy, Dom, Epi, LC, Quin and sig are not on her team. (Me too, but I'm not thinking about me)
That leaves DDL, Jack, MM, MP, sorsha and zebra as candidates having looked at Eloh's posts. I feel as though DDL's vote was very early for bussing and I feel his reasons for voting seemed genuine. Sorsha's perspective on Epi and Eloh read genuine to me and she went with Sorsha in both cases (including the Snow Dog lynch), and I'm inclined to see it as genuine.
I think we can probably find all of Eloh's living teammates, however many there may be, amongst Jack, MM, MP, zebra.
This hunt feels so old school. I love it!
It's this new skin I'm trying out.Long Con wrote:I like your attitude. I wish I could be more like you.MovingPictures07 wrote:And by "us", I mean everyone that's looking for them. I don't care too much.
That all makes sense, thanks.sig wrote:His actions surrounding this phase, he voted for Epi, but was on the fence with Eloh. So if he was Eloh's teammate he wouldn't get burned as much if she flipped mafia, and knowing she was bad he could use it to pursue Epi tomorrow.MovingPictures07 wrote:Can you explain your perspective as to how Jack is on Elo's team?sig wrote:I'm leaning civ, don't want him lynched.MovingPictures07 wrote:Now it'd be nice if Epi didn't take up the whole conversation, so... what do people think of DDL?
Same with Epi I mean yeah he went back and forth on Eloh, however in the end he did vote for and push her lynch, plus he voted for Sprityo 2.0 I think we should keep an eye on him for sure, but not lynch him or NK him this phase.
MM is number one on my list to be lynched followed by Jack (he would be on Eloh's team) or someone else who pushed Epi. I think Epi was the civ/Indy counterwagon to Eloh. If he is mafia he's on the other team.
I honestly want to lynch MM tomorrow, maybe Jack. Since right now I'm thinking the Guardian team is Eloh, Jack, and maybe MM. This makes more sense then Jack being a Troupe member, assuming MM is also a Guardian. Since he defended MM agaisnt Zebra/Daisy say 1.
For Daisy if she is a baddie she is a Troupe member. She avoided the wagon day 2, instead going for MM.
That's fine, just don't expect me to hesitate voting for you tomorrow then.Epignosis wrote:And I think you're mildly irritating. You don't get to waltz in here after doing nothing to help find mafia and then tell me what I have to show you.MovingPictures07 wrote:If you're town, show me and everyone else how you're town by the actions you take. I think you look mildly suspicious, but I'm open to having my mind changed. You're not winning any ground with me by saying you wouldn't have been on a team that did X. That's just nonsense.Epignosis wrote:Jesus. This again.MovingPictures07 wrote:I don't think anyone should be eliminated from consideration based on some curse power that a mafia team used anyway. I think that's weaksauce as fuck.
Can you explain your perspective as to how Jack is on Elo's team?sig wrote:I'm leaning civ, don't want him lynched.MovingPictures07 wrote:Now it'd be nice if Epi didn't take up the whole conversation, so... what do people think of DDL?
Same with Epi I mean yeah he went back and forth on Eloh, however in the end he did vote for and push her lynch, plus he voted for Sprityo 2.0 I think we should keep an eye on him for sure, but not lynch him or NK him this phase.
MM is number one on my list to be lynched followed by Jack (he would be on Eloh's team) or someone else who pushed Epi. I think Epi was the civ/Indy counterwagon to Eloh. If he is mafia he's on the other team.
If you're town, show me and everyone else how you're town by the actions you take. I think you look mildly suspicious, but I'm open to having my mind changed. You're not winning any ground with me by saying you wouldn't have been on a team that did X. That's just nonsense.Epignosis wrote:Jesus. This again.MovingPictures07 wrote:I don't think anyone should be eliminated from consideration based on some curse power that a mafia team used anyway. I think that's weaksauce as fuck.
I don't care much for speculating on night power strategies; there's too much WIFOM involved with whether a mafia team with so and so on it would do X or they would do Y. It's not effective at hunting baddies or eliminating townies from consideration in my view. I prefer to use in-thread content.Epignosis wrote:No.MovingPictures07 wrote:You're fixating on the wrong things. You want us to discount you and Elo being mafia together because of some actions that the mafia team supposedly made regarding night powers. I think that's an unfair request.Epignosis wrote:Why is it not necessary? Those are the things people have to believe to be true in order to peg me as Eloh's teammates. If you sincerely believe I am bad with her, then you have to believe those things. If you don't believe those things, what else makes sense?MovingPictures07 wrote:I'm trying to give Epi a fair shot, but at face value I find it mildly suspicious that Epi has to go out of his way to say "why would I have done THIS? and THIS? and THIS?!!". It's just not necessary for a town-minded player to continually emphasize.
You of all people should know better. You hosted the first time Eloh and I were bad together.
Anyone is capable of making nearly any strategic move, especially when you consider there are multiple people on a mafia team with independent minds. I think there's never any way to fairly discount anyone from being on a team that takes any number of strategic moves, and the fact that you think we should all sit here and eliminate you from consideration when you damn well know that is suspicious to me.
You have to make a decision one way or the other. What you just posted here eliminates nobody from consideration. It's an empty post. Yes, any strategic move can be made by anyone. I am asking do you think I made that particular series of "strategic" moves I named above (I use the quotation marks because I don't consider them very strategic), and if you don't, then how else am I bad?
Don't say "anyone can do anything." That isn't helpful.
You're fixating on the wrong things. You want us to discount you and Elo being mafia together because of some actions that the mafia team supposedly made regarding night powers. I think that's an unfair request.Epignosis wrote:Why is it not necessary? Those are the things people have to believe to be true in order to peg me as Eloh's teammates. If you sincerely believe I am bad with her, then you have to believe those things. If you don't believe those things, what else makes sense?MovingPictures07 wrote:I'm trying to give Epi a fair shot, but at face value I find it mildly suspicious that Epi has to go out of his way to say "why would I have done THIS? and THIS? and THIS?!!". It's just not necessary for a town-minded player to continually emphasize.
You of all people should know better. You hosted the first time Eloh and I were bad together.
If you're coming under fire, just defend yourself by showing why you're town with things you've done in thread, not continually say "I would have never done THAT if I were on THAT team", etc. It reads suspiciously just like a kid who breaks a vase and says "That definitely wasn't me!"Epignosis wrote:Not at all.MovingPictures07 wrote:That's all fair, and I think every other player in this thread should analyze your behavior and see if they think it fits within a framework compatible with you being Elo's teammate.Epignosis wrote:The alternative is that you do believe I did all those things. Do you believe I raised the first suspicion of my teammate (specifically, my wife), backed off, and then put my foot to the pedal again, only to suspect her of being on the other team (on the basis of her insinuating that she knew Wilgy was bad)? Do you believe I am responsible for the shitty curses we've witnessed, like calling me "Sir" or making people post food items or saying "as a baddie?"* Do you believe my kill recommendations would have been soup (who wasn't participating) and sig (who doesn't think I'm bad)?MovingPictures07 wrote:Also, Epi, your continued insistence that you wouldn't "do ________" if bad is nonsense. I don't give your WIFOM defenses any serious consideration.
There's always healthy suspicion of me- I worked hard to keep it that way. But at some point you have to look at everything that has transpired in this particular context and consider that, maybe, just maybe, "Yeah, none of that shit makes sense if Epi is bad."
*No offense to the curse author- your curses are lovely works of art and you should be proud of yourself.
I just find it notable that you continually choose to highlight all the ways you wouldn't be doing all the things the mafia are doing. It's not necessary and conjures up WIFOM. Instead you could just emphasize the things you have done that make you town, not "not mafia". Does that make sense?
How is emphasizing things that make me good any different from "WIFOM?"
That's all fair, and I think every other player in this thread should analyze your behavior and see if they think it fits within a framework compatible with you being Elo's teammate.Epignosis wrote:The alternative is that you do believe I did all those things. Do you believe I raised the first suspicion of my teammate (specifically, my wife), backed off, and then put my foot to the pedal again, only to suspect her of being on the other team (on the basis of her insinuating that she knew Wilgy was bad)? Do you believe I am responsible for the shitty curses we've witnessed, like calling me "Sir" or making people post food items or saying "as a baddie?"* Do you believe my kill recommendations would have been soup (who wasn't participating) and sig (who doesn't think I'm bad)?MovingPictures07 wrote:Also, Epi, your continued insistence that you wouldn't "do ________" if bad is nonsense. I don't give your WIFOM defenses any serious consideration.
There's always healthy suspicion of me- I worked hard to keep it that way. But at some point you have to look at everything that has transpired in this particular context and consider that, maybe, just maybe, "Yeah, none of that shit makes sense if Epi is bad."
*No offense to the curse author- your curses are lovely works of art and you should be proud of yourself.
Where did you find this picture of me!?!?!Jackofhearts2005 wrote:
^Sock IRL
There once was a man from Brisbane...Quin wrote:Know any limericks?MovingPictures07 wrote:Like what?Quin wrote:You need to say better things.MovingPictures07 wrote:I would say you're probably bad.Quin wrote:I'd prefer to lynch Eloh between the two, I'm not as confident in Epi being bad as I am Eloh.
linki: MP, what would you say if I said I believed that entirely
Like what?Quin wrote:You need to say better things.MovingPictures07 wrote:I would say you're probably bad.Quin wrote:I'd prefer to lynch Eloh between the two, I'm not as confident in Epi being bad as I am Eloh.
linki: MP, what would you say if I said I believed that entirely
I would say you're probably bad.Quin wrote:I'd prefer to lynch Eloh between the two, I'm not as confident in Epi being bad as I am Eloh.
linki: MP, what would you say if I said I believed that entirely
You sure about that?Elohcin wrote:Honey, you aren't playing at all.MovingPictures07 wrote:Especially given time constraints, I'm much preferring playing more like Vompatti or the Marmot than I am like typical MP. Maybe I won't play more like my usual self then.
Nope.Dom wrote:not to open a whole new can of gummy worms and not that i wish to change my vote...
do we have an yreason to believe mp is civ?
Long Con wrote:Wow, not bad. I forgot you were playing. Congrats!MovingPictures07 wrote:I'm still alive, huh...
He has over 70 posts and you find nothing alignment-indicative?insertnamehere wrote:Zilch.MovingPictures07 wrote:What is your read on MM?insertnamehere wrote:ADDENDUM: We will be on the same page, if MP doesn't decide to balls it up by doing a CFD on MM for who knows what reason.insertnamehere wrote:https://www.getyarn.io/yarn-clip/e5245e ... a1bacdf0e4MovingPictures07 wrote:Holy fuck, INH and I are on exactly the same page right now? What world is this?
I tried lynching someone I had no impression of D1.
Didn't go so well.
