The Syndicate

And we lynched Rico? Okay then. Not sure I feel good about that.

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 4:01 pm
MovingPictures07 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 4:00 pm
Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:59 pm I'm voting MP, I think he might have been buddying me with his assertion I was civ before I was even in here, and then as soon as I arrived.

I also think he would totally prefer a mafia role to a town role.
Bullfuckingshit, I threw out a read based on logic that made sense. You're bad.
If you really think this, then you really cannot read me at all.

I can't fathom how you think I'm bad either, so whatever.

Elohcin wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 4:02 pm But you haven't flipped your lid yet ao I think you're bad

I'm not exactly trying to blow up every game I play anymore. That's not fun for me or anyone else.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 4:01 pm
MovingPictures07 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 4:00 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:59 pm voting sprityo, his actions make no sense
And that's what makes him bad?
Throwing mud is great when there is some visible direction or intent. sprityo is throwing mud for the sake of it.

That's the impression I'm getting from him too. I don't see genuine townie hunting. Just wasn't sure what you meant.

For the love of music, if I get voted out on D1, I'm going to flip a lid.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:59 pm voting sprityo, his actions make no sense

And that's what makes him bad?

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:59 pm I'm voting MP, I think he might have been buddying me with his assertion I was civ before I was even in here, and then as soon as I arrived.

I also think he would totally prefer a mafia role to a town role.

Bullfuckingshit, I threw out a read based on logic that made sense. You're bad.

Jay and Elo could be bad.

Elohcin wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:58 pm Gosh...day is almost up. You seem too collected and sneaky. Voting MP.

I don't believe you really think that.

sprityo wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:57 pm
MovingPictures07 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:56 pm
sprityo wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:55 pm As much as i want to lynch Jay, you guys are really going ham on making sure he's out, so im gonna side with him.

Chaos is the birthplace of excitement
For someone who was supposedly paranoid of Jay right off the bat, this strikes me as insincere.

VOTES SPRITYO
we can go around all day MP, but if you insist on making this not exciting, VOTE JJJ

I'm confused. Why are you voting where you're voting?

Elohcin wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:56 pm I don't think jjj is bad.

My top suspect is MP. Just gut on his demeanor

Can you elaborate at all?

sprityo wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:55 pm As much as i want to lynch Jay, you guys are really going ham on making sure he's out, so im gonna side with him.

Chaos is the birthplace of excitement

For someone who was supposedly paranoid of Jay right off the bat, this strikes me as insincere.

VOTES SPRITYO

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:54 pm
MovingPictures07 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:53 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:40 pm
MovingPictures07 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:35 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:27 pm Assertion: Rico was drawn to a "more interesting" option than the strong civilian role he rejected, which could imply a non-civilian alignment.
That's possible, or he wanted to be vanilla town I suppose?
Vanilla townie is my favorite role in Mafia, and yet I'd still never select it over a power role. That's a willful reduction of one's own win-chance. Do you believe Rico would do that?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:52 pm I would have selected VT over mafia dayvig. I believe Daisy.

You're bad, aren't you?
Town power role > VT

VT > mafia anything

I wanted to be town in this game, like I said.

Okay, that checks out.

MOVING VOTE BACK TO EPIGNOSIS

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:53 pm
Elohcin wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:49 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:47 pm
Elohcin wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:46 pm Hmm...not aure what to think of MPs first post upon Daisy's arrival.
Speak to me, Eloh. You're my most trusted today. What is your concern?
I know its a stretch, but could be distancing right off the bat. Like they know they are teammates before daisy sits down to her laptop to actually play.
I am not a baddie. I don't know if MP is or is not because I only know my role which is vanilla townie.

I would not put it past him to try to buddy me with that kind of statement right off the bat though. And if he were bad, he would know I was civ.

What kind of statement? I think I gave a solid theory earlier. It's like no one's paying attention to that. Frustrating to be honest.

VOTE JAGGEDJIMMYJAY

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:40 pm
MovingPictures07 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:35 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:27 pm Assertion: Rico was drawn to a "more interesting" option than the strong civilian role he rejected, which could imply a non-civilian alignment.
That's possible, or he wanted to be vanilla town I suppose?
Vanilla townie is my favorite role in Mafia, and yet I'd still never select it over a power role. That's a willful reduction of one's own win-chance. Do you believe Rico would do that?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:52 pm I would have selected VT over mafia dayvig. I believe Daisy.

You're bad, aren't you?

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:51 pm
MovingPictures07 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:50 pm
Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:47 pm
MovingPictures07 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:45 pm
Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:44 pmI'm here!
Hi!

You're town, right?
Yes, vanilla in fact. I know Jay said he wouldn't do that but I did because I didn't know how quickly I could get into the game with being at work.

You turned down a 1-shot Dayvig mafia role to be vanilla town for that reason?
Yes I did.

Okay, that's fair I guess. Thanks.

I'm not sure what I think of Jay. My brain says he's town, my gut says he's mafia.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:50 pm
MovingPictures07 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:49 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:47 pm
Elohcin wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:46 pm Hmm...not aure what to think of MPs first post upon Daisy's arrival.
Speak to me, Eloh. You're my most trusted today. What is your concern?
Why is Elo your most trusted?
That thing she said about everyone being civilian being weird just looked authentic as hell to me. Soul read.

I guess that's fair. I agree, but I wouldn't say I feel strongly about it since she could easily fake something like that though.

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:47 pm
MovingPictures07 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:45 pm
Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:44 pmI'm here!
Hi!

You're town, right?
Yes, vanilla in fact. I know Jay said he wouldn't do that but I did because I didn't know how quickly I could get into the game with being at work.

You turned down a 1-shot Dayvig mafia role to be vanilla town for that reason?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:47 pm
Elohcin wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:46 pm Hmm...not aure what to think of MPs first post upon Daisy's arrival.
Speak to me, Eloh. You're my most trusted today. What is your concern?

Why is Elo your most trusted?

Elohcin wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:46 pm Hmm...not aure what to think of MPs first post upon Daisy's arrival.

I have a reason to believe her to be town that I stated earlier; although it's weak, I think it's the best deduction I could make based on the roles that people declined. Do you disagree?

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:46 pm I'm a total noob at this so I forgot to add a poll end time.

You can only add increments of 24 hours anyway, as far as I'm aware (I don't think anyone on the tech team has gotten around to improving this yet because it involves some serious code).

sprityo wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:46 pm
MovingPictures07 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:44 pm
Ricochet wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:44 pm
sprityo wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:43 pm the most obvious point to do is lynch rico for discarding a powerful role, but that's probably part of his strategy and im not gonna poke him for it
wolves are JaggedJimmyJay and sprityo
What are you basing this off of?
Rico being Rico

You know how he likes to be MP, a wildcard, a silly goober, something synonymous to that

He hasn't always been that way, and apparently I've missed most of his transformation into that given I've been away from playing most of 2017. I remember the analytical monster Rico much more so. I miss it.

I can get behind an Epi vote for now at least, until he starts hunting or doing something other than joking around.

VOTE EPIGNOSIS

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:44 pm
Ricochet wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:44 pm
sprityo wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:43 pm the most obvious point to do is lynch rico for discarding a powerful role, but that's probably part of his strategy and im not gonna poke him for it
wolves are JaggedJimmyJay and sprityo
Repeated, uncreative, worthless gimmick. We can lynch you too.

Trying too hard to seem aggro-supatown there, Jay? Or is it really true?

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:44 pmI'm here!

Hi!

You're town, right?

Ricochet wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:44 pm
sprityo wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:43 pm the most obvious point to do is lynch rico for discarding a powerful role, but that's probably part of his strategy and im not gonna poke him for it
wolves are JaggedJimmyJay and sprityo

What are you basing this off of?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:42 pm The game details stipulate that there's no guarantee of balance, so I think the game could be literally anything. There are meant to be four factions, so I don't know if it was aligned to facilitate that (but it still cannot be wholly controlled with only 7 people).

Yeah, that's true, the game could even be 5 v 1 v 1 or 4 v 1 v 1 v 1.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:40 pm
MovingPictures07 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:35 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:27 pm Assertion: Rico was drawn to a "more interesting" option than the strong civilian role he rejected, which could imply a non-civilian alignment.
That's possible, or he wanted to be vanilla town I suppose?
Vanilla townie is my favorite role in Mafia, and yet I'd still never select it over a power role. That's a willful reduction of one's own win-chance. Do you believe Rico would do that?

Well, one could assume that DDL is trying to balance the game so that if Rico wanted to be VT for some reason (didn't want the pressure, perhaps), he could select it knowing that DDL is probably taking that into consideration.

That said, I do agree that it's dubious and, although possible, unlikely.

Elohcin wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:40 pm So according to DDLs post and him not redistributing rolea, we have some civ and some mafia. But we just don't know how many.

I would guess 5 v. 2 at worst case scenario. Perhaps 6 v. 1 but that seems less likely.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:38 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:37 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:35 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:29 pm I turned it down in favor of a government job.
I don't see a government job which I'd expect Epi to even hint at in his first post. Scum.

Assertion:

If Epi had a civ or non-civ decision, he is by nature more likely to select the latter. He's the same guy who sided with the Reapers immediately after their strongest member was lynched.

I think I agree with that. Might depend on the power of each role though.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:36 pm
MovingPictures07 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:36 pm
sprityo wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:29 pm We all remember what happened last time JJJ played the burglary right?
I do think it's important to keep a strong eye on Jay in any game, especially a burglary (I still have PTSD from the last one), but I'm not convinced we should vote him out this time just yet. Give it a few more minutes.
No shit you're "not convinced" "just yet". We're like eight minutes into Day 0. Give me a read immediately.

Well, I just gave you one about Daisy (town GTH), and you and Elo seem OK for me at the moment as well -- genuine GTH.

I think Daisy would have easily chosen to be town instead of mafia given the chance, but nonetheless I think it'd be tough for anyone to not be a mafia-aligned Dayvig (I mean, come on), so seeing that she rejected an awesome mafia power role makes me feel good enough about her.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:32 pm MP hasn't posted yet. Scum.

I'm here! Just was caught up working.

Elohcin wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:31 pm What if everyone rejected all the mafia rolea that they were proposed? We could all be town? This is weird.

That's impossible.

sprityo wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:29 pm We all remember what happened last time JJJ played the burglary right?

I do think it's important to keep a strong eye on Jay in any game, especially a burglary (I still have PTSD from the last one), but I'm not convinced we should vote him out this time just yet. Give it a few more minutes.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:27 pm Assertion: Rico was drawn to a "more interesting" option than the strong civilian role he rejected, which could imply a non-civilian alignment.

That's possible, or he wanted to be vanilla town I suppose?

That said, as much as I would love to hunt based on information (like which role everyone threw out and guessing what that means their other role was), I'm not sure anything other than blind shots in the dark could come of it.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:27 pm Among those who we know for sure rejected a civilian role:

Rico rejected strong role

MP rejected weak role

Epi rejected weak role

sprityo rejected decent role

Do you think it's more likely -- if players were given the option of one town role and one mafia role -- that the town role would be weak/vanilla or power?

This question goes for anyone.

Poor DDL.

Yay burglary! :yay:

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