The Syndicate

Sigh.

I suppose I'm switching my vote. If Daisy really wants to go, that's fine. If that's what it takes to prove that I'm right about her too, then so be it. I agree with her that there's at least one super active player that's messing with everyone else. I just don't know who it is.

Interesting!

Well, I suppose I'll keep my vote on Boomslang for now then.

timmer wrote:I do not wanna Scapa Fla into details. but I 'ave just put together a certain 'unch. I will not be votin' for either long con or dharma 'elper at any point in the chuffin' near future. I do not fin' either of them is on a Sorry and Sad team, and the bloomin' Sorry and Sad teams 're the people I need brahn bread.

Intrigued to how you came to this conclusion.

DH, will you forgive an old crazy sock for doubting you again?

I now see the error of my ways!!!

I think Sorry and Sad should be used instead of baddie forever.

DharmaHelper wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:How confident are you about DH, LC, if you put it into a percentage?

And why are you so confident?
Honestly, I don't think he is confident about anything regarding me. I think he's frustrated that nobody has taken his bait thusfar and now he's resorting to projecting this confidence to get a civvie lynched.

Do you think LC is bad then?

How confident are you about DH, LC, if you put it into a percentage?

And why are you so confident?

timmer wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:Sorry man, the insanification is just too weird for me.

'a abaht that?

Sorry man, the insanification is just too weird for me.

I seriously cannot understand what timmer has been saying at all.

Playstyle is really weird? I'm an outed Independent, what do you expect? :P

Wow, what a case!

Switching vote to Boomslang.

DharmaHelper wrote:
zeek wrote:Hmm... DH, why aren't you gunning for Boom anymore?

MP, that's fine, but I think it makes perfect sense that it was a missed PM or is playing games. Boddy isn't an active player. There was a foiled kill N6 and nobody died last night. He's not been lynched, he HAS to still be around. He's been plenty active up until last night and all the inactives have been as such so since like N1.

linki - eh, why am I responding to trolling.
Because right now the evidence is very strong that SpaceDaisy is bad.

What evidence? You mean the evidence I just talked about and that almost entirely relates to you as well? Come on DH.

zeek wrote:MP, would you rather we lynch you over Daisy?

No, go ahead and lynch her instead.

But I'd rather lynch almost anyone else over her. Just not me. Lol.

zeek wrote:Hmm... DH, why aren't you gunning for Boom anymore?

MP, that's fine, but I think it makes perfect sense that it was a missed PM or is playing games. Boddy isn't an active player. There was a foiled kill N6 and nobody died last night. He's not been lynched, he HAS to still be around. He's been plenty active up until last night and all the inactives have been as such so since like N1.

linki - eh, why am I responding to trolling.

LOL, it isn't trolling just because I'm having fun. I'm making legitimate points that I really feel are worth making. If I was just trolling, why would I waste all that time?

I agree with Boddy. My point is... there are 2 Suits left, yes? Or probably anyway. I bet you one of them is an active player who goofed and missed the PM whereas his teammate MUST be completely inactive.

There's no reason a baddie team with 2 members left would miss a kill on purpose. That would be a terrible move.

DharmaHelper wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:Fair enough.

I still would be fine with a Blooper vote to be honest; I'm just posting what I'm thinking, and realizing that perhaps I was wrong to give you a pass. Since votes are changeable, I can always change it to her, but my gut is really telling me you're bad right now.

LOL, the Epignosis Effect.

Well, sure, if Daisy IS my Narrator. But I've said she isn't, so how will it do me harm if she gets lynched? I'm just being honest with all of you. I can't control whether you guys listen to me or not.
You wouldn't tell us even if she was though, so that point is hollow.

And as you said, votes can change.

Sure, good point.

I'm just having fun playing the game at this point, which I think is all I can do.

Or maybe I'm just fucking with all of you.

That's up to you to decide.

Fair enough.

I still would be fine with a Blooper vote to be honest; I'm just posting what I'm thinking, and realizing that perhaps I was wrong to give you a pass. Since votes are changeable, I can always change it to her, but my gut is really telling me you're bad right now.

LOL, the Epignosis Effect.

Well, sure, if Daisy IS my Narrator. But I've said she isn't, so how will it do me harm if she gets lynched? I'm just being honest with all of you. I can't control whether you guys listen to me or not.

I've made my case. If people want to vote Daisy, by all means, but I'm casting my vote for DH. I should have stuck with my gut before on him. And now that we know Snowy was bad, it's also possible DH is still tied to Snowy in that way.

Look, I don't want to NOT lynch Daisy just because she's my fiance. I've lynched and NKed her in plenty of games before. I don't play favorites like that.

Why did you say you are "100% gunning" for Boomslang and then never mentioned him again? That just seems like a lie. If he was still on your radar, why didn't you say that earlier?

What "evidence"?

You mean similar evidence that was brought against you? Like how you went after Bass for being a Llama voter, dropped it completely, then gunned after Dom when it seemed like Dom actually had some players voting for him? Or how LC connected you to DF just as Daisy is being connected to DF? You shrugged all of that off. Why can't you consider that you're wrong about it here with regards to someone else?

Alright, S~V~S, fine. But then you or NO ONE ELSE can say I didn't warn you. I don't know why I care so much anyway, I don't need the civilians to win.

I just can't help wanting them to win.

In fact, I think I've just convinced myself back to what I was thinking pre: the deal with Russ, and that's that DH is bad. He's been throwing around empty words and then doesn't follow through.

DharmaHelper wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:Let's remember that Snowy voted for his own teammate during the Bass/Dom lynch.

I frankly am starting to wonder if we let a baddie slip by with DH because he's contradicting himself, clearly, and the main reason I even flipped on him was because of Russ, whom no one else seems to believe was hinting.
Sorry?

Cause it seems to me the only reason you've "flipped" on me is because I've brought SD up as a suspect.

No, that is NOT the case.

You said this yesterday, D7:

DharmaHelper wrote:
Boomslang wrote:Almost certain Daisy isn't bad due to my read. Therefore, voting SVS.
This is at least the second time you've straight up avoided making waves with your vote. And why the hell are you voting a practically confirmed Civ?

If I make it out of this lynch I'm gunning 100% for you.

And then during D8 NO MENTION of Boomslang.

Then you give three posts in a row trying to discredit the Suits missed their PM theory:

DharmaHelper wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:
Long Con wrote:I answered the questions. Maybe I should have answered the third one about Rush's 'Lunatic Fringe'... Otherwise, I got no result or PM or anything.

It didn't even show who the Suits targeted... maybe they missed the PM?

Linki: Weird insanity there, Timmer.
That's a very astute observation.

Does that mean the two remaining Suits could be someone completely inactive and someone mostly active but just so happened to miss this last PM?
Boddy was at least active the last time they got to kill.

DharmaHelper wrote:Equally possible their target was protected.

DharmaHelper wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:
DharmaHelper wrote:Equally possible their target was protected.
True, but don't failed kills typically show? timmer was shown as the target in the N6 post.
Also equally possible that by not answering the Knights questions, the suits were blocked.

Even though none of them really made sense, since we've seen failed kills before; they always mention the target (see timmer on N6).

This makes me wonder if you're a Suit and you're protecting a non-participant teammate.

You also say all kinds of things and don't follow through with them. You keep saying Made could be bad, let's talk about Made... and now you gun after Daisy today, citing the main reasons are that I am defending her. But I've been defending her for CYCLES now.

zeek wrote:What decisions are you referring to?

Cited by DH and S~V~S, as well as others:

- She voted Llama over Made (this is DH's reason)

- She gunned HARD after Dom but not Bass
- She defended DF
- She is suggesting low posters, which people are finding suspicious, but frankly I think it's a legitimate way to consider a vote today given what happened last night with the Suits

But if she were really a Suit, would not those three decisions be stupid? Bass was likely to get lynched eventually if he even made it out of that lynch alive, and same with DF (he garnered a lot of heat).

I've been on a baddie team with Daisy and she is NOT afraid to distance. I just don't see it.

Let's remember that Snowy voted for his own teammate during the Bass/Dom lynch.

I frankly am starting to wonder if we let a baddie slip by with DH because he's contradicting himself, clearly, and the main reason I even flipped on him was because of Russ, whom no one else seems to believe was hinting.

zeek wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:
zeek wrote:Daisy, voting and such makes her a Suit candidate. Frankly, I'm not willing to accept the word of an Indy that she's civ. (If anything I think that's harming her position.) She and MP have said we'll regret lynching her. Seems like an empty baddie threat to me, we'd regret lynching any civ. It strikes me as odd that she stopped being suspicious of DharmaHelper as soon as he became a viable lynch candidate..
How can it be a baddie threat if I'm a neutral?

Listen to me, civvies. Please.
Give me something more than your word then, Tyler.

How am I supposed to do that?

Has anyone actually considered that if, Daisy was actually bad, that it would be absolutely retarded for her to have made the decisions people are alleging her to have made?

But by all means, if you guys want to lynch someone I'm almost absolutely positive is a civilian, then go for it. But don't be surprised when Daisy flips civilian, I remain here, and there was definitely some baddie influence in this lynch.

And S~V~S, i have no idea if Sabie is more likely "Suit" than LoRab or Lizzy or anyone else. Frankly, I'd be fine lynching any of them. But since Sabie has actually been active on the site, elsewhere, it seems logical to me that she could still be sending in a PM but not posting.

zeek wrote:Daisy, voting and such makes her a Suit candidate. Frankly, I'm not willing to accept the word of an Indy that she's civ. (If anything I think that's harming her position.) She and MP have said we'll regret lynching her. Seems like an empty baddie threat to me, we'd regret lynching any civ. It strikes me as odd that she stopped being suspicious of DharmaHelper as soon as he became a viable lynch candidate..

How can it be a baddie threat if I'm a neutral?

Listen to me, civvies. Please.

Daisy said why Sabie clearly I thought -- because Sabie has been active in Film but not here.

Has no one looked into people that were inactive in N7? If I get some extra time I could do that. Because I just can't believe anything other than the Suits missed their PM.

I live with her every day. I just have not once questioned her intentions this game. They have completely read me as 100% genuine. And I am well known for being paranoid for Daisy, but I am just not seeing it here. She's WAY too careful of a baddie for the "evidence" to incriminate her as such an easy teammate. It just is not Daisy.

S~V~S wrote:
Spacedaisy wrote:When you see who I flip, consider what I've said.

I also received something last night but I don't understand the point of it. Whatever...

Also, That was a typo, it should say I haven't got a read on Juliets...
Are you implying you are an info role? So Face of Boe (although you thought Russti was hinting at that, so unlikely) but I have said nothing that was not true. Rogue (If Rogue stole one of my powers, she got one of several whimsical fun things, but nothing that would duplicate one of the baddie powers. You might have gotten to talk to a dead person, that was my favorite. But nothing that would give you info. Then there is Col. Mustard. He seems to have info on night events. Other than that, I am not sure why your opinion would be any more valuable than that of any other civ.

As I said Daisy, i will earnestly apologize if I am wrong. But everything is pointing at it.

MovingPictures07 wrote:You guys are going to REALLY regret this.
Do you know the roles of all your recruits, or only the Narrator? Didn't you say Daisy was not the Narrator? Giving you the roles of all your recruits seems to overpower your role a tad, don't you think, since there is no orientation change?

Linki, I did not ask you about me & Juliets. But thanks for the answer. And I never said Bea made a hint. I said the host said something and that Bea said something. I may be wrong, but I really don't think so.

Only the Narrator. Correct, that would severely overpower my role.

I have said Daisy is not the Narrator.

But I will be absolutely SHOCKED if Daisy flips bad.

S~V~S wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:
S~V~S wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:Also, there's bea, who I still am not convinced is civilian.
But I AM sure she is not bad. I will actively oppose a lynch of Bea. Also to you, if you suspect Bea, do you also suspect Eloh?
I have no read on Elo.
But Bea & Eloh seem to be backing each other up, don't you think? They seem to trust each other. So if you think Bea is bad, do you think Eloh is mistaken? Or a baddie teammate? Do you think Bea has bamboozled her? Beaboozled her, as it were?

And sorry S~V~S, meant to respond to this.

I honestly have no idea, but Elo isn't the only one backing bea up, so are you and juliets, to name just a couple. I really don't know what to think of it.

I've never really had solid reasoning to believe bea is bad all game, but she's done certain things (like be super noncommittal and illogical during the Dom/Bass lynch) that have not made me trust her either.

And why aren't people recognizing that it's likely that there is a non-participant Suit?

juliets, who are you thinking of voting?

That said, I'm willing to be proven wrong with bea, I just REALLY don't get the blind trust of her that's coming from certain people, especially S~V~S who previously said she didn't put much stock in those kinds of things. It doesn't mean I find S~V~S suspicious; this just really confuses me.

Juliets, I think Daisy got confused between when the days ended, since she's playing both Film and here.

What the heck are people talking about with bea? Did I miss something where she was confirmed civilian? Or when S~V~S threw a fit over talking about Russ being a possible role and yet now everyone seems to think just because bea made some hint that she's good?

S~V~S wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:Also, there's bea, who I still am not convinced is civilian.
But I AM sure she is not bad. I will actively oppose a lynch of Bea. Also to you, if you suspect Bea, do you also suspect Eloh?

I have no read on Elo.

Also, there's bea, who I still am not convinced is civilian.

DharmaHelper wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:You guys are going to REALLY regret this.
She is the only living active Dom voter that looks remotely like a suit, do you have any other suggestions?

- juliets
- timmer (even though he was cleared by Sorcerers, he could be a Suit)
- Sabie, Lizzy, or any other low poster (it's OBVIOUS the Suits missed their PM, so if there are 2 of them, 1 of them is definitely a low poster)

What happened to your Made case?

And what happened to everyone wanting to look at Boomslang, including you?

I'm starting to think you're bad again.

You guys are going to REALLY regret this.

Spacedaisy wrote:SVS, I already told you all my suspects and I am feeling about you the same way you are feeling about me to be frank, I'm really not feeling you as bad as I was before.the person I most suspect you keep vouching for. I have reason to suspect Bea but it's not iron clad, so let me ask you this, how much room for error do you feel like you have about Bea being good?

Other than Bea I don't have a solid lead because a couple day periods ago threw my suspicions upside down. I am however, fully behind lynching someone inactive at some point. I am looking at Sabie personally. She is participating in film director but hasn't done anything here. If I was going to lynch a no participator I would start there or maybe Lorab.

Linki: I've got read on Juliets but I can see why what appears to be a missed PM looks bad for her.

This is a good point. I'd be fine considering this as well.

And I have literally no read on juliets myself, but that in itself concerns me a bit. I'm not sure I'd even be considering her today if it weren't for the missed PM, but I do think she needs to be discussed.

By "not sure" I mean I'm not 100% sure, but nonetheless I'm not voting her today, and I implore others to heavily consider not doing so as well.

Mongoose, that's a thought, but it doesn't make sense at all if there are 2 Suits alive IMO.

DH, why are you ruling out the possibility that juliets threw her teammate(s) under the bus? I'm not saying I think that's the case, but it's certainly a possibility, and it lines up with what we've seen from baddies so far.

I DO NOT think Daisy is bad. Now I'm not sure, but she's one of the people I still feel best about.

I honestly am tempted to vote a relatively low participant today since it's clear to me that one of them is a Suit, unless we can get a good idea of who Boddy might be.

So who wasn't active during N7? That's the burning question.

If someone doesn't get to it, I'll see what I can find out tomorrow evening, since I'm about to get some rest.

Figured I might as well admit it since everyone knows my role and power anyway. :P

DharmaHelper wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:
DharmaHelper wrote:Equally possible their target was protected.
True, but don't failed kills typically show? timmer was shown as the target in the N6 post.
Also equally possible that by not answering the Knights questions, the suits were blocked.

I really doubt that though, since I wasn't blocked last night.

DharmaHelper wrote:Equally possible their target was protected.

True, but don't failed kills typically show? timmer was shown as the target in the N6 post.

DharmaHelper wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:
Long Con wrote:I answered the questions. Maybe I should have answered the third one about Rush's 'Lunatic Fringe'... Otherwise, I got no result or PM or anything.

It didn't even show who the Suits targeted... maybe they missed the PM?

Linki: Weird insanity there, Timmer.
That's a very astute observation.

Does that mean the two remaining Suits could be someone completely inactive and someone mostly active but just so happened to miss this last PM?
Boddy was at least active the last time they got to kill.

Yes, that's true. It's possible Boddy has been active and just forgot this PM.

If no PM was sent in at all, that bids with the theory of the 2nd Suit being completely inactive though, or else you'd think they would have sent a PM in just to be safe.

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