The Syndicate

See, this is why I shouldn't believe my own cases.

LMAO I'M AN IDIOT!

Roxy wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:Lol, I've never said I'm infallible. I realize I could be wrong. I just don't think I am, and I don't see how the case has been refuted.
Thats bc you repeatedly keep telling yourself you are right. You even tel yourself that in a few of your posts. You are unwillingly to see what I have posted and you completely ignored splints point. You are blind to other peoples opinions and it is not like you gave a lot of opportunity for anyone to really read it and have time to read back and give thoughtful insights to any of your case because you slipped it in during a late part of the lynch then dominated the thread with it and when I disagreed with you - you just lumped me in as damage control for a baddie team who dun goofed. Its no wonder no one says anything to give an opinion bc then you will say they are bad and lead a lynch against them before the results even come back for FZ.

When you can come up with a refutable point as to why Bass said I was civvie because I survived and not DF, then we can continue our discussion. Otherwise, this is pointless.

Snow Dog wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:I've never been so anxious for a lynch post in my life. :P
I'm sooooo tired.
My F5 key is going to bust.
Im clicking on the wotsit

With how anxious I am, you'd think it was me getting lynched.

Linki:

That is not funny.

Snow Dog wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:I've never been so anxious for a lynch post in my life. :P
I'm sooooo tired.

My F5 key is going to bust.

I've never been so anxious for a lynch post in my life. :P

Lol, I've never said I'm infallible. I realize I could be wrong. I just don't think I am, and I don't see how the case has been refuted.

Roxy wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:But I don't want people to "blindly" follow me. I just want someone to refute my arguments in a way I find compelling. Which hasn't happened yet.
In YOUR opinion!
Dog gone MP I believe I will have something better to call you than idiot and it deffo isn't going to be awesome

I'll be awaiting your apology.

Mister Rearranger wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:Can we call you idiot, Alex, if FZ flips civ? Because it'd be well worth the loss.
This too

On an unrelated note, happy to play a game with you again, MP! Glad my schedule is free enough for this one.

Likewise, man, thanks! I'm actually really happy to be playing a game with everyone on this player list. It's seriously an awesome group beyond imagination.

"Bc their posts dominate the thread"

Wow, again, not refuting my case, but implying yet again that I'm just blabbering nonsense.

Roxy wrote:I hope FZ will play here again since you continually lynch her early every game it feels like.

If civvies are ever to win a game we have to stop following people bc we know them or think they know something only bc their posts dominate the thread.

I say civvies pull your heads out of the peanut butter and lets make this the first synicate game where the civs win.

Are you kidding me right now?

I love FZ. I told her this game that it's fantastic to have her playing. I gave her plenty of chances. Mafia is NOT personal. I already said FZ. was practically the last person I want to be bad.

See, it's posts like this that make me feel you're emotionally manipulating the thread, and I don't like it one bit.

Bass_the_Clever wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:Can we call you idiot, Alex, if FZ flips civ? Because it'd be well worth the loss.
Sure. Same with Bass.

But if she and Bass both flip bad, I expect all of the doubters to tell me I'm awesome.
You are going to have to change "The Don" tittle to "the Idiot" when I come back civ.

LOL, sounds like fun.

But I don't want people to "blindly" follow me. I just want someone to refute my arguments in a way I find compelling. Which hasn't happened yet.

Trust me, I'll be calling myself an idiot if Bass and FZ. flip civ, either of them. There's no way I would push this hard if I hadn't given it all a fair shakedown, especially since I've been super confident and wrong before. I've considered that.

Snow Dog wrote:Can we call you idiot, Alex, if FZ flips civ? Because it'd be well worth the loss.

Sure. Same with Bass.

But if she and Bass both flip bad, I expect all of the doubters to tell me I'm awesome.

Mister Rearranger wrote:Wtf is going on?

Snow Dog wrote:
thellama73 wrote:If FZ flips civ I am coming hard after all you FZ voters when I get back to DC, especially Ambray.
Don't you dare come hard at me!
Gross.

MP seems unusually confident. Perhaps I was wrong about Snow too. I tend to focus too much on my cold reads sometimes (for instance, I was pretty off in Zelda but ran with it). I trusted FZ immensely yesterday as I believed her hunting and discussion was constructive.

Or is BR on a team with MP...? Ugh...

I'll vote for FZ. I realize that could put me in a bad spot tomorrow if she flips civ, but I don't know why MP would be this aggressive if he wasn't feeling sure of himself. I certainly feel more hopeful that FZ or BR will result in a baddie lynch. The mood today contrasts Day 1 a lot, I think.

MR, I understand. I felt the same about FZ. I'm just using what occurred in the thread as evidence from both her and Bass, and the way they interacted with each other and then with me only convinced me I was right. I was willing to give them plenty of chances to logically satisfactorily explain themselves, but they didn't.

I also understand the point made about BR, but given how the day has progressed, I think it's unlikely BR is on the mafia team.

Rox, I'll give you the BOTD for now, obviously. I just got so excited with what I found on Bass and FZ. (which i still 99% believe to be true, by the way) and the way you responded caused me to read your intentions as if you are doing damage control.

I'm not necessarily saying I no longer believe that to be true, but I'll be more than fair in giving you a more proper case if I ever intend to vote for you.

Linki: Well, I'm sorry you don't agree.

Roxy wrote:
Roxy wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:
Roxy wrote:MP also idc if you don't believe I did not get a benefit or prize that I was aware of - why would I even say it? I am a civ I like to share everything bc I've nothing to hide.
I don't believe you, and there's good reason for that.
By all means enlighten me on a prize or benefit I did not get - stop being so dang gone vague!

Please answer my previous question MP - you are ignoring it or overlooking it. why am I suspicious or connected to bass or fz? is it solely bc I did not agree with your case?

Oh, you misunderstood me. But I realize my wording was not the best.

I did not mean "good reason" as in I know you're lying. If I did, I would have come at you much harder.

I meant "good reason" because of the 3 reasons I outlined in response to you above, and because I believe you're attempting damage control. Again, interpretation of your actions, I know, but that's what I firmly believe.

Roxy wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:
thellama73 wrote:If FZ flips civ I am coming hard after all you FZ voters when I get back to DC, especially Ambray.
If FZ (or even Bass for that matter) flips civ, I will forever proclaim that I am an idiot.
What about me? You don't say it bc you know you are wrong!

So are you admitting here that FZ. and Bass are both bad? Because that's how it reads.

Also, you know that's a ridiculous assertion to make, logically.

fingersplints wrote:MP, FZ has the most voted anyways? why are you so upset?
I don't understand all this "civvies deserve to lose" stuff. I think I am missing something because this doesn't seem to be case shut to me as you are making it out to be. I don't know if I believe all three would be so blatantly obvious. I could see the bass/FZ thing but when Roxy disagreed with it and you lumped her on to the group I feel like your case lost some credibility.

She does now that Boogs voted. I was upset because Llama tied it up.

Look, it's plainly clear to me that FZ. is bad. Consider the following:

MovingPictures07 wrote:
FZ. wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:I really don't understand why someone would conclude I was the one targeted.

Bass and FZ.'s most recent posts really don't make me reconsider my perception of my observation.

Bass, the thing is: It was not made public whether DF or I survived the NK. So why would you say you think I'm civvie SOLELY based on the NK survival and you have no opinion of DF, even though it was not made public which one of us was the target?

FZ., I have NEVER seen a game on this site where there was a possibility of two different targets for the NK survival. It's certainly an interesting way to write it. But I can't recall anyone doing this, let alone Epig or Elo. And don't worry, you didn't offend me, but now that you're implying I'm either paranoid or baddie, instead of logically refuting my observation, makes me wonder. Especially so since you haven't said a word about my Bass observations.
I'm sitting here after 2 am, to make the right decision and not lynch a civ, If you guys vote for me, I will be really angry. I have done nothing this game but look for baddies. I'm as civ as they get, and I'm sorry I'm frustrated, but believe me, it's for a good reason.
I can't say anything about your theory because there's nothing to say. It's false. I have no idea about Bass, but it seemed natural for him to reply on your post when he was there. Is he using me or is he just another civ, don't know, but it has nothing to do with anything.

And I'm not being rude.

linki: MP, I can't use logic to refute something that has no logic in my opinion. You want to vote for me, do it. I'm getting used to it. I'm kind of pissed that I've spent the last 3 hours here instead of going to bed.
Appealing to emotion again.

Bass_the_Clever wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote: Why don't you want to see me lynched? What about my play makes you think it's a civvie? I'm just curious. I find the fact that now at least three people (DF, you, and FZ.) have said I seem civvie interesting.
Well there has to be a reason you survived the attempted night kill. The one reason that could have happen is a certain civvie role. I don't know for sure if you are that role or not but I would hate to lynch someone who could be that role.
I asked Bass a simple question. Why didn't he want to see me lynched?

Bass replied because there has to be a reason I survived the NK.

FZ. has to say:

"There's nothing to say".

"I have no idea about Bass".

"It seemed natural for him to reply on your post when he was there."

"Is he using me"

"It has nothing to do with anything".

These are all not ways I expect a civilian to analyze Bass's behavior.

and

MovingPictures07 wrote:I know there have been a lot of posts and attempts to miscommunicate what happened, so to summarize:

- FZ. made a post where she was supposedly talking about a baddie's perspective but never used the word 'baddie' in the sentence. She also used the pronoun 'we'.
- I questioned FZ. on it and Bass immediately amended his previous post to agree that FZ. looks really bad, even though he had stated nothing about her in his post before that.
- I questioned Bass why he believes I'm a civvie and the ONLY reason he gave was because "there had to be some reason" I survived the NK. But as has been made clear, nowhere does it say I survived. It was either me or DFaraday. So to confirm what Bass said, I asked him what he thought of DF.
- Bass then said he had no opinion of DF even though his ONLY reason for thinking I'm a civvie is because I survived the NK. If Bass understood that either DF or I could survive the NK, he would have said the same about both of us. Bass has exhibited no lack of understanding in reading the night post. Instead, it appears he KNEW I was targeted.
- I link FZ. and Bass's odd behavior over the past hour or so. FZ. responds to it, appealing to emotions and calling it "ridiculous", but did not logically refute anything. And she said NOTHING about Bass.
- Then I called her out on it and she finally addressed Bass, saying "there is nothing to anything" and several other very suspicious panicked statements not committing about Bass, even though I asked him a simple question and he gave me a very strange answer.

Conclusion: They are on a baddie team together.

I wish all baddie hunting was this easy.

Linki

Don't let my gut-based feelings on Roxy convince you that I'm wrong about Bass and FZ. Those are two separate things. I'm sorry, I didn't intend to confuse. My case on Bass and FZ. is based on facts.

If you still have doubts about my Bass and FZ. case after looking at those two posts, that's fine. Not all of my substance is there, but that's a succinct overview of the major observations.

I'm adding Rox mainly due to interpretation of her actions.

Roxy wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:
Roxy wrote:MP also idc if you don't believe I did not get a benefit or prize that I was aware of - why would I even say it? I am a civ I like to share everything bc I've nothing to hide.
I don't believe you, and there's good reason for that.
By all means enlighten me on a prize or benefit I did not get - stop being so dang gone vague!

Please answer my previous question MP - you are ignoring it or overlooking it. why am I suspicious or connected to bass or fz? is it solely bc I did not agree with your case?

Rox, sorry, I didn't mean to ignore anything. I'm obviously worked up at the moment. Lol.

I'll consider that you're not 100% tied to the case. But my feelings are:

1) Bass and FZ. both have trusted you and both voted you D0. FZ. in particular. Considering I think both of them are bad, something to consider.
2) You said you did not benefit and nothing happened from winning the D0 poll. While I don't know this to be false, I'm very skeptical that is the case.
3) It is not that you disagree with my case. That's fine. Even if I really believe it's true. It's because you didn't give me a straight answer on Bass until literally just recently and you kept ignoring it.

Hope that helps.

thellama73 wrote:If FZ flips civ I am coming hard after all you FZ voters when I get back to DC, especially Ambray.

If FZ (or even Bass for that matter) flips civ, I will forever proclaim that I am an idiot.

Snow Dog wrote:This must be a brilliant read for the hosts.

No kidding.

I just can't believe this. Wow.

I can't remember the last time I was this frustrated at a game. I will leave for real. Sorry players. I am not intending any disrespect. Seriously. I am not insulting anyone.

Civvies deserve to lose if FZ. does not get lynched this lynch, it's that simple.

No wonder civvies practically never win games on this site. Holy bats.

Llama NOOOOOOOOOOO.

Wow. I'm gone.

Roxy wrote:MP
Why quote that gigantic wall of text for a small blurb at the end unless you aretrying to control the lynch making everyone look at ot again.

I believe its bc you were getting a bit of heat and he was posting back and forth with you he said he had no read on df - he does imply about you both that he does not want to lynch either of you bc of the poss of either of you being a certain civ role. I don't think it was a slip I think he was genuine in his feeling that he did not want see you lynched. Bass is a much more careful baddie but I shouldn't have to tell you that.

Wait, what?

You do not understand how the events occurred.

Bass said he believes I am civvie BECAUSE I SURVIVED THE NK.

I then asked him what he thinks of DF. He said he had no opinion.

I ask why.

You are not answering that question.

Snow Dog wrote:
thellama73 wrote:What I come back and everyone is voting for FZ? Big mistake guys. Big mistake. I would change my vote if I were you. Am brau is where the action is at.
Yeah. We need more than that. Is it even you posting?

He obviously is half-joking and hasn't caught up.

thellama73 wrote:What I come back and everyone is voting for FZ? Big mistake guys. Big mistake. I would change my vote if I were you. Am brau is where the action is at.

Bah, I really can't stay away.

For the love of god, Llama, please catch up and see why.

birdwithteeth11 wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:Snow Dog isn't bad.
Regardless of the fact that he's changed his mind so much? Isn't that somewhat illogical too?

1) But he hasn't. He "joke voted" (he didn't even vote, so he says, and I don't recall seeing the votes) me or Llama on D1. That means he voted Blooper, then moved it to MR after her defense.

2) He moved his vote from me to FZ. today after I brought forth my case.

And do you not recall how Snow Dog typically plays this game?

NOW I'M LEAVING.

I seriously feel like I'm in a circus thread, where some people aren't playing the same game that I am.

Roxy wrote:MP also idc if you don't believe I did not get a benefit or prize that I was aware of - why would I even say it? I am a civ I like to share everything bc I've nothing to hide.

I don't believe you, and there's good reason for that.

Snow Dog wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:Snow Dog isn't bad.
What? Why the change?

Well, it's evident to me Bass and FZ. are bad, and Roxy is very likely a third.

Considering they are the baddie team, I do not see you being on that team due to your actions.

I also wanted to say it's interesting to note both FZ. and Bass voted for Roxy in the D0 benefit poll and that Roxy said she has received no benefit. I realize I also voted Roxy, but I think that's something to note.

Ambray, sorry, I am not implying you are unintelligent (I would say the opposite). I won't mention that incident any further.

Rox, look to the bottom of this post to see a question I've asked you and others multiple times. You haven't addressed it.

Made, can we lynch FZ. today and Bass tomorrow please?

I do not want BR to get lynched at this point.

I'm not intending to come across colder, but NO ONE has told me why:

MovingPictures07 wrote:
Roxy wrote:
fingersplints wrote:
Roxy wrote:I think I going to "relax"(:p wish you were here splints) for a few and let these latest posts sink in.

Linky wall 'o text tldr going to "relax"
you have no idea how much I wish I was there too and how disappointed I am I didn't make it there this trip. Too much to do and too little time. I shouldn't have worked.
There is always next time! Besides work got in the way for both of us if I rememeber correctly

So glad you think me such a poor player that I would openly defend a teammate.

Christ MP you are reading way too much into stuff and over looking the obv staring at you laughing.
How is this "reading way too much into stuff"?

Bass_the_Clever wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:
Bass_the_Clever wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:I really don't understand why someone would conclude I was the one targeted.

Bass and FZ.'s most recent posts really don't make me reconsider my perception of my observation.

Bass, the thing is: It was not made public whether DF or I survived the NK. So why would you say you think I'm civvie SOLELY based on the NK survival and you have no opinion of DF, even though it was not made public which one of us was the target?

FZ., I have NEVER seen a game on this site where there was a possibility of two different targets for the NK survival. It's certainly an interesting way to write it. But I can't recall anyone doing this, let alone Epig or Elo. And don't worry, you didn't offend me, but now that you're implying I'm either paranoid or baddie, instead of logically refuting my observation, makes me wonder. Especially so since you haven't said a word about my Bass observations.
You are reading way to much into my post .I wouldn't lynch you or DF because of last nights post.
Oh, but I'm not reading way too much into it.

Bass_the_Clever wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:
Bass_the_Clever wrote:Well so far I don't want to see MP get lynched and i'm not to sure about llama either. I feel like llama could just be really busy and thats why he hasn't been active like his normal self so it really hard for me to say at this point . If I had to vote right now it would probably for Black Rock . Her vote for Dom seemed kinda strange to me and out of no where .
Why don't you want to see me lynched? What about my play makes you think it's a civvie? I'm just curious. I find the fact that now at least three people (DF, you, and FZ.) have said I seem civvie interesting.

With Llama, that could be the case, but could it not also be the case for BR?

Why do you think the scenario you described is the case for Llama but not BR?
Well there has to be a reason you survived the attempted night kill. The one reason that could have happen is a certain civvie role. I don't know for sure if you are that role or not but I would hate to lynch someone who could be that role.

Yes the scenario coulod be the case for both of them but so far this game BR has given me more reason to look her way then Llama has.
I asked you "why don't you want to see me lynched?"

Your answer was not:
- I feel your attempts to baddie hunt have been genuine.
- I assess that your behavior seems like your normal civvie self.

Or anything like that. In fact, your ONLY reason is clearly bolded above. "Well there has to be a reason you survived the attempted night kill".

How is there anything more to read there than the stated? You clearly stated there has to be a reason I survived the NK.

Elohcin wrote:
Night 1: Matte Kudasai
“The competition is heating up down there Bob. The racers are doing whatever they need to do to get ahead.”

“Right you are, Darrell.

“Woah, would you look at that?!”

“What is it Darrell?”

“Right over there in Shu Todoroki’s pit. Looks like Acer has made his way over there and is puttin’ up a fuss about something. Oh man! Acer just shot at someone in the crew!”

“Wait, Darrell here comes security. Looks like Acer is backing off.”

“Woo wee, that was close. Let’s keep this race friendly folks. Let’s keep this race real friendly.”

No one has been killed.
It is now Day 2. You have 48 hours to lynch someone.
Where in that post does it say I survived the NK?
Bass said the reason I am civvie is because "I survived the NK".

I asked him what he thought of DF. He said he had no opinion.

We don't know who survived the NK. It was either me or DF.

Why would Bass say I'm a civvie because I survived the NK and not DFaraday? How is that reading too much? That's ridiculous. I'm reading EXACTLY WHAT BASS SAID. (not mad or disrespectful, caps lock added for emphasis)

No one has answered this question.

I will leave the thread now, but I refuse to have this vote go bad because people do not understand my case. If FZ. does not get lynched today, the civvies deserve to lose, IMO.

Snow Dog isn't bad.

And Splints, FWIW, I was reading FZ. as very likely civvie.

Turns out I was wrong.

Bass, I don't think I said you appealed to emotion. Rox and FZ. have though.

You just have failed to clarify your remarks. Sorry bud.

Now, really. I've already laid out the case. I think it's the most excellent case I've ever crafted and I would bet my mafia reputation on FZ. and Bass being bad. If you wonder why, it's not a meaningless back and forth. Read my posts.

I do not want to keep debating. I have dinner to eat and a paper to write. I've neglected it. If someone actually comes up with a refutation of my case, I would LOVE to hear it. I want to catch baddies after all. It would be terrible if I was wrong.

It's too bad for the baddies that I'm 99% sure I'm not wrong.

Linki w/ Splints: Fair enough. Please read it. I really, really, really think it's self-evident for a reason and there's a reason I'm so worked up about it. I also realize I'm not doing any good jumping up and down right now, so I'm seriously not responding anymore unless someone wants to actually discuss some merits of the case.

Rox, just answer me this:

Do you think Ambray is not intelligent then because she outed her entire team on mistake?

All humans make mistakes.

I do not think any of the three of you are unintelligent. I think you DUN GOOFED.

FZ. and everyone, seriously, I am not insulting anyone. I am not questioning anyone's intelligence. I refuse to let the thread be swayed by emotion. I realize civvies use emotion. But civvies do not behave at all in the way Rox, FZ., and Bass have behaved. I will sig bet every last person on Earth that Bass and FZ. are bad.

I just want my intentions to be made clear. If anyone does not understand the ramifications of my case, please read it carefully, and ask for clarification. I have seriously tried to consider EVERY possibility for the actions of the aforementioned, but neither Bass nor FZ. gave a single reasonable response.

Now I will leave. I just want it known that I am being reasonable and that I am not insulting anyone nor am I trying to be unfair. I am trying my hardest to be fair. The fact that these three are appealing to emotion instead of refuting or addressing my points should be the final nail in the coffin.

Ambray wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:This is seriously the most obvious baddie connection since Ambray went in the thread and outed our entire team in Spongebob.
We don't talk about that.

Lol.

Seriously though, do you not agree?

Not a single one of my points has been logically refuted. Instead, Rox, FZ., and Bass all try to use emotion and manipulation to make it appear like I'm not being reasonable.

NOW, seriously, I will be back at lynch closing time. I believe I've already made an incredibly convincing argument as to why the three of the aforementioned are bad, but especially FZ. and Bass.

Well, I'm leaving the thread. I don't want to appear disrespectful. It appears Rox, FZ., and Bass are trying to discredit me.

If there's one thing I'm doing, it's NOT:

- Avoiding reason
- Not considering all perspectives
- Believe a "wall of text" makes my logical assessment of actions infallible
- Insulting anyone

Civvies, read for yourselves, and please vote accordingly.

This is seriously the most obvious baddie connection since Ambray went in the thread and outed our entire team in Spongebob.

Lololololol at baddies trying to discredit me.

Roxy wrote:Just bc you make a wall of text about something doesn't make it true.
If you are civ you are a horrible one for not listening to reason.

I am srsly insulted by you MP.
Sorry bout saying the "s" word I forgot about Simon.

LMAO!!!!! I'm not listening to reason?

I'm sorry, Rox, I'm not insulting you. But this is the funniest accusation I've read of me... ever.

Roxy wrote:
fingersplints wrote:
Roxy wrote:I think I going to "relax"(:p wish you were here splints) for a few and let these latest posts sink in.

Linky wall 'o text tldr going to "relax"
you have no idea how much I wish I was there too and how disappointed I am I didn't make it there this trip. Too much to do and too little time. I shouldn't have worked.
There is always next time! Besides work got in the way for both of us if I rememeber correctly

So glad you think me such a poor player that I would openly defend a teammate.

Christ MP you are reading way too much into stuff and over looking the obv staring at you laughing.

How is this "reading way too much into stuff"?

Bass_the_Clever wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:
Bass_the_Clever wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:I really don't understand why someone would conclude I was the one targeted.

Bass and FZ.'s most recent posts really don't make me reconsider my perception of my observation.

Bass, the thing is: It was not made public whether DF or I survived the NK. So why would you say you think I'm civvie SOLELY based on the NK survival and you have no opinion of DF, even though it was not made public which one of us was the target?

FZ., I have NEVER seen a game on this site where there was a possibility of two different targets for the NK survival. It's certainly an interesting way to write it. But I can't recall anyone doing this, let alone Epig or Elo. And don't worry, you didn't offend me, but now that you're implying I'm either paranoid or baddie, instead of logically refuting my observation, makes me wonder. Especially so since you haven't said a word about my Bass observations.
You are reading way to much into my post .I wouldn't lynch you or DF because of last nights post.
Oh, but I'm not reading way too much into it.

Bass_the_Clever wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:
Bass_the_Clever wrote:Well so far I don't want to see MP get lynched and i'm not to sure about llama either. I feel like llama could just be really busy and thats why he hasn't been active like his normal self so it really hard for me to say at this point . If I had to vote right now it would probably for Black Rock . Her vote for Dom seemed kinda strange to me and out of no where .
Why don't you want to see me lynched? What about my play makes you think it's a civvie? I'm just curious. I find the fact that now at least three people (DF, you, and FZ.) have said I seem civvie interesting.

With Llama, that could be the case, but could it not also be the case for BR?

Why do you think the scenario you described is the case for Llama but not BR?
Well there has to be a reason you survived the attempted night kill. The one reason that could have happen is a certain civvie role. I don't know for sure if you are that role or not but I would hate to lynch someone who could be that role.

Yes the scenario coulod be the case for both of them but so far this game BR has given me more reason to look her way then Llama has.
I asked you "why don't you want to see me lynched?"

Your answer was not:
- I feel your attempts to baddie hunt have been genuine.
- I assess that your behavior seems like your normal civvie self.

Or anything like that. In fact, your ONLY reason is clearly bolded above. "Well there has to be a reason you survived the attempted night kill".

How is there anything more to read there than the stated? You clearly stated there has to be a reason I survived the NK.

Elohcin wrote:
Night 1: Matte Kudasai
“The competition is heating up down there Bob. The racers are doing whatever they need to do to get ahead.”

“Right you are, Darrell.

“Woah, would you look at that?!”

“What is it Darrell?”

“Right over there in Shu Todoroki’s pit. Looks like Acer has made his way over there and is puttin’ up a fuss about something. Oh man! Acer just shot at someone in the crew!”

“Wait, Darrell here comes security. Looks like Acer is backing off.”

“Woo wee, that was close. Let’s keep this race friendly folks. Let’s keep this race real friendly.”

No one has been killed.
It is now Day 2. You have 48 hours to lynch someone.
Where in that post does it say I survived the NK?

Bass said the reason I am civvie is because "I survived the NK".

I asked him what he thought of DF. He said he had no opinion.

We don't know who survived the NK. It was either me or DF.

Why would Bass say I'm a civvie because I survived the NK and not DFaraday? How is that reading too much? That's ridiculous. I'm reading EXACTLY WHAT BASS SAID. (not mad or disrespectful, caps lock added for emphasis)

I will NOT back down from this.

Bass and FZ. both have clearly slipped.

I seriously will do absolutely anything to prove to everyone else I'm right. At least about Bass and FZ.

I'm less sure about Rox, but I'm really starting to feel she's on the team as well.

You're on, Bass. Sig bet it is.

Baddies, you dun goofed.

Lol at Rox's "you do this to her every time!"

You heard it.

Rox, FZ., and Bass are all on the baddie team.

I'd bet my reputation on it. Seriously.

Roxy wrote:MP - I am sorry but I really think you are reaching here. My baddie radar has been off lately but FZ reads genuine to me. You do this to her every time! I swear after her last post she is civ.

As for Bass idk you seem to be over-reaching on the connection. I am not seeing Bass' baddie game so far. Mostly bc he is actually posting and giving opinions every other time when he is bad he is Blendy McBlenderson who lives on Blender Lane.

I am REALLY surprised you have not mentioned one word about Tink's terriffic post about Snow who so clearly hopped his vote and vote intention more than anyone yesterday.

LOL that is hilarious! Because here I was thinking you'd be a fantastic candidate for a third baddie teammate. I also think you're lying about not receiving anything from the D0 poll.

Tink's post isn't terrific. I already discussed this with Snowy myself. He said he never actually voted me or Llama and that they were clearly jokes.

Obvious baddie team is SO OBVIOUS.

I know there have been a lot of posts and attempts to miscommunicate what happened, so to summarize:

- FZ. made a post where she was supposedly talking about a baddie's perspective but never used the word 'baddie' in the sentence. She also used the pronoun 'we'.
- I questioned FZ. on it and Bass immediately amended his previous post to agree that FZ. looks really bad, even though he had stated nothing about her in his post before that.
- I questioned Bass why he believes I'm a civvie and the ONLY reason he gave was because "there had to be some reason" I survived the NK. But as has been made clear, nowhere does it say I survived. It was either me or DFaraday. So to confirm what Bass said, I asked him what he thought of DF.
- Bass then said he had no opinion of DF even though his ONLY reason for thinking I'm a civvie is because I survived the NK. If Bass understood that either DF or I could survive the NK, he would have said the same about both of us. Bass has exhibited no lack of understanding in reading the night post. Instead, it appears he KNEW I was targeted.
- I link FZ. and Bass's odd behavior over the past hour or so. FZ. responds to it, appealing to emotions and calling it "ridiculous", but did not logically refute anything. And she said NOTHING about Bass.
- Then I called her out on it and she finally addressed Bass, saying "there is nothing to anything" and several other very suspicious panicked statements not committing about Bass, even though I asked him a simple question and he gave me a very strange answer.

Conclusion: They are on a baddie team together.

I wish all baddie hunting was this easy.

Linki

I honestly see absolutely no circumstance in which FZ. and Bass are not bad at this point. Can anyone refute this?

But NOWHERE in that post does it mention my name.

You did not mention DF at all.

Then when I asked you about him, you said:

Bass_the_Clever wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:Bass, what do you think of DFaraday?
I really don't have a read on him yet. What do you think of him?

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