The Syndicate

Also, have you all seen this?

Matt F wrote:HOSTS - If the Mafia or Serial Killer is prevented from making a kill for whatever reason, do you still show their kill attempt in the Night Post? If the Mafia or Serial Killer simply don't make an attempt, do you completely ignore them in the Night Post?

Thank you

Yes to both questions.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Hosts, could you state whether this post is sufficient to avoid a modkill? If this question is more than you'd care to answer then please don't answer it. Thanks.

espers wrote:ugh why am i still not dead

i'm genuinely sorry for my behaviour, but i'm way behind and not really invested in this right now.

no insult intended to the hosts or anyone playing, i'm just not in the right frame of mind for this. don't anticipate checking in again.

also, i deserve to die for missing the vote

I'm not sure if this adequately answers your question at this time, but what I will say is that espers's position in this game has been clarified, and after Night 5 it will be clear one way or the other to the thread whether he will still be playing this game or not.

Ricochet wrote:Hosts: espers has last posted 73 hours ago, if I'm not mistaken. What's in store for him?

He has fallen into non-participation criteria.

He may or may not be modkilled at the end of Night 5 if he does not post before then.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:HOSTS: Was Devin's lynch influenced by anything other than the roles in this game?

No.

Day 5 has ended. Devin the Omniscient has been lynched. He was Heaven.

It is now Night 5. You have 23 hours to send in your PMs.

Who killed Golden and tried to kill ?????...?

Poll runs till Fri Oct 16, 2015 7:25:59 pm
You may select 1 option


bcornett24
1
DrWilgy (7) 3%
Black Rock
1
fingersplints (17) 3%
Bullzeye
0
No votes
Choutas
0
No votes
Devin the Omniscient
6
bcornett24 (10), Choutas (15), sig (26), Bullzeye (27), Devin the Omniscient (28), Black Rock (29) 18%
Diiny
2
seaside (11), MacDougall (24) 6%
DrWilgy
0
No votes
Elohcin
0
No votes
Epignosis
0
No votes
espers
8
Russtifinko (18), motel room (20), JaggedJimmyJay (22), RadicalFuzz (23), Metalmarsh89 (30), Diiny (31), Ricochet (32), Matt F (34) 24%
fingersplints
0
No votes
JaggedJimmyJay
0
No votes
MacDougall
2
Elohcin (19), Epignosis (21) 6%
Matt F
2
TheFloyd73 (9), Roxy (13) 6%
Metalmarsh89
1
Strawhenge (8) 3%
motel room
0
No votes
RadicalFuzz
0
No votes
Ricochet
0
No votes
Roxy
0
No votes
Russtifinko
0
No votes
seaside
0
No votes
sig
0
No votes
Strawhenge
0
No votes
TheFloyd73
0
No votes
A real live wire whose bed is on fire! (host, deadies, non-players)
11
HamburgerBoy (1), MovingPictures07 (2), Golden (3), S~V~S (4), Sorsha (5), a2thezebra (6), acrosstheaether (12), Sloonei (14), juliets (16), G-Man (25), bea (33) 32%
Total votes : 34

Epignosis wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

Ricochet wrote:Not sure what Russ tried to mention with the Bioshock reference, considering that he said Devin was SK?! What kind of alliance was that? How can you have a long term, civ-inclined, alliance with an SK? How can his alignment back then be indicative of his civvieness here?

It's complicated. I was Mafia that got recruited by a civilian, betrayed my entire team, with all of them but one dying in one Night, my civilian master turned last man standing, and then I got recruited by somebody else.

Good times.

Also, I was drunk and told my team I had been recruited, but, realizing my mistake, I made up this whole narrative on how I would return to the team at a certain phase.

Yep, good times.

That was the best; I can't believe they bought it.

Epignosis wrote:

Ricochet wrote:Not sure what Russ tried to mention with the Bioshock reference, considering that he said Devin was SK?! What kind of alliance was that? How can you have a long term, civ-inclined, alliance with an SK? How can his alignment back then be indicative of his civvieness here?

It's complicated. I was Mafia that got recruited by a civilian, betrayed my entire team, with all of them but one dying in one Night, my civilian master turned last man standing, and then I got recruited by somebody else.

Good times.

Devin the Omniscient wrote:Did I mention that I need a replacement?

Look, this cannot happen. Replacements aren't coming.

We've already had to modkill rundontwalk and there may be others to follow. I beg that people do not voluntarily throw in the towel this game, regardless of alignment or RL circumstances, unless they absolutely feel they have to. In doing so, the balance of the game will not be upheld. I do not want to have to modkill more players if I don't have to.

Assuming he survives this lynch, Devin will be punished for self-voting.

Choutas wrote:

Ricochet wrote:

Choutas wrote: Can you explain it with simple words? Your theory is completely unprovable tbh. There are two roles we have no idea what they do marked with question marks. I think it has do with these unknown roles and not by a townie role.

If by "his theory" you mean Girlfriend/Place theory, why is it "completely unprovable"? So far we've found out the only thing that would make it unlikely is if the SK was blocked from killing - which he obviously wasn't.

Plus, he's also right that, double-targetting aside (meaning the SK can't target the same player again on N5), the SK could take advantage of his role.

Why is your "something must be happening behind the [Secrets] roles" more "provable" than Mac's theory?

Well for once it says "power" usually in mafiascum cannon law "power" and "kill" is two different words. Unless by "power" here you mean "powers and kills" which again this is a complete different planet and I still try to get my head around some of your stuff.

Mr Modman is "kill" another "power" ?

A kill counts as a "power" or ability, just like any other role mechanic.

For example, for Girlfriend Is Better, it is irrelevant whether the role is targeted with a role check, a kill, or any other power; they all fall under the chance for duplication if not blocked.

Ricochet wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:Addendum:

I might have misunderstood that last question, Rico. Can you re-word just to ensure I gave you the right answer?

Player targets Girlfriend with power N.

Is power N automatically duplicated (with 50% odds) onto random civ X or does that happens only if power N successfully hit Girlfriend?

If power N is successfully duplicated onto random civ X, if power N didn't work on Girlfriend, can it still work on random civ X?

Hope it's clearer now.

Okay, I see, thanks for clarifying. My previous answer mostly holds, but it depends on the nature of the fail.

For example, if killer targets Girlfriend Is Better, but killer is role blocked, then no duplication (with 50% odds).

If killer targets Girlfriend Is Better, but Girlfriend Is Better is protected from NKs, then yes duplication (with 50% odds).

This is because the block effectively prevents a duplication from happening. So, essentially, a 50% duplication will happen if Girlfriend is targeted, but not if the player targeting Girlfriend fails to be successful specifically due to a role block.

Ricochet wrote:
Hosts: Would you announce if the mafia failed to kill anyone? Would you announce if the mafia performed no kill attempt?

I get Psycho Killer is the main topic so far, but why isn't anyone talking about the fact that there was no mafia kill? Or that perhaps the mafia took a break? Coincidentally, at the same time when Psycho Killer got to use his kill twice?! I'm seeing nothing in the mafia's roles to explain their failure or abstinence, apart from No Compassion's secrets. Or is it perhaps Psycho Killer who is secretly able to snatch their kill, one-time or so at least (yeah, I know, I'll get to the theories revolving PK as well, just writing this thought down...)?

Yes, we would announce if the mafia failed to kill. Attempted kills are written into the post.

No, we would not announce if the mafia performed no kill attempt. A complete lack of kills are not written.

Ricochet wrote:Hosts: Does the order of kills matter in a Host Post announcement?

No.

Ricochet wrote:HOSTS: Does Girlfriend's redirect activate simply when Girlfriend is targeted or does the targetting need to be successful as well, in order for the redirect to function / work / be successful?

The latter (???).

Matt F wrote:HOSTS - Was Sorsha able to pick a winner from her two candidates on Day 4 considering she also died Day 4?

Good question.

What does the role say?

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Modkill =/= Nightkill, correct?

Correct. For the purposes of rundontwalk's power, nothing will happen, since it qualifies as neither a lynch nor an NK.

Night 4 has ended.

Golden has been killed by Psycho Killer.
????? has survived a kill attempt by Psycho Killer.

It is now Day 5. You have 48 hours to lynch someone.

Ricochet wrote:I'd like to ask the Hosts what RDW's status is and what's in store for him, it's a week since he last posted, so way beyond the 72-hour grace period.

He will be modkilled in the Night 4 post if he does not post once before that time.

I've been more hesitant to modkill players in this game due to the crossover nature, especially RYM players, but that changes henceforth.

Day 4 has ended. Sorsha has been lynched. She was Found a Job.

It is now Night 4. You have 23 hours to send in your PMs.

Who killed Rbzmncaeaei and FZ.?

Poll runs till Tue Oct 13, 2015 7:01:38 pm
You may select 1 option


bcornett24
0
No votes
Black Rock
0
No votes
Bullzeye
0
No votes
Choutas
0
No votes
Devin the Omniscient
9
bcornett24 (15), Sorsha (16), JaggedJimmyJay (22), Bullzeye (23), Black Rock (25), Ricochet (26), Golden (27), DrWilgy (31), Epignosis (33) 27%
Diiny
0
No votes
DrWilgy
0
No votes
Elohcin
1
TheFloyd73 (10) 3%
Epignosis
0
No votes
espers
0
No votes
Golden
1
Diiny (32) 3%
JaggedJimmyJay
2
Metalmarsh89 (12), RadicalFuzz (18) 6%
MacDougall
0
No votes
Matt F
1
Roxy (7) 3%
Metalmarsh89
0
No votes
motel room
0
No votes
RadicalFuzz
0
No votes
Roxy
0
No votes
rundontwalk
0
No votes
Russtifinko
0
No votes
seaside
0
No votes
sig
0
No votes
Sorsha
10
Choutas (6), seaside (8), Devin the Omniscient (9), Strawhenge (11), motel room (17), Matt F (20), Elohcin (24), MacDougall (28), espers (29), Russtifinko (30) 30%
Strawhenge
0
No votes
TheFloyd73
0
No votes
thellama73
0
No votes
Jerks! (hosts, non-players, dead players)
9
MovingPictures07 (1), a2thezebra (2), Sloonei (3), juliets (4), HamburgerBoy (5), nijuukyugou (13), S~V~S (14), Turnip Head (19), unfurl (21) 27%
Total votes : 33

MovingPictures07 wrote:To clarify:

I am currently mulling over whether recent events constitute too much tiptoeing or whether it is fully legitimate.

I'll be back with a final decision at a later time.

This has been decided.

Hey folks, let's not forget these:

MovingPictures07 wrote: 4. No role outing of yourself or anyone else. This includes all statements of fact that any player may see and thereafter deduct your or someone else's role, such as "I am Making Flippy Floppy", "Sloonei is Psycho Killer", etc. This game is open setup and incompatible with role outing, thus making it not fun when players engage in it. Absolutely don't do it.
5. No dumping information you received from the Host (whether role-related or not) into the thread. This includes statements that more often are seen as implications, rather than statements of fact (role outing). An example would be declaring that "I have reasons to believe Sloonei is Psycho Killer" without elaborating. If you suspect someone to be a certain role or alignment, use in-thread reasons to back up your assertion or speculation, even if your reasons are sourced from information you gained outside of the thread. If you are unsure if what you are about to say constitutes info dumping, please PM the hosts first before making the post. If you fail to do this and your post does violate information dumping, then you and your faction will be punished.

I realize there has been a situation that has prompted a discussion, and nothing has firmly crossed the line, but we've had recent discussion that is increasingly tiptoeing that line, so I wanted to remind everyone. Don't forget that regardless of whether the information being dumped or role outed is true or not, the perception of such is just as bad.

Ricochet wrote: And you may ask yourself... well, something I already did.

Ricochet wrote: Hosts, is the seduced by Uh-Oh informed by you that he's been seduced?

If the answer is no, I guess players should at least keep an eye on who and when Golden votes.

My bad, didn't mean to miss this question.

My answer is: Good question.

Night 3 has ended.

a2thezebra has been killed by Making Flippy Floppy.
FZ. has been killed by Psycho Killer.

It is now Day 4. You have 48 hours to lynch someone.

Ricochet wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:

Ricochet wrote:Hosts, can Angel use his one time dead role power steal at any point during phases or only during the Nights?

At any point.

For example, if Angel were to find out a player's role during Night 3, it could elect to use that power immediately at the start of Day 4 if such a power were immediately applicable.

Ah, but it must find out the role first, right? Was the Mafia deprived of finding out K4J's role on Night 1, because of Angel executing the kill?

That is correct.

When Angel executes the night kill, it does not learn the role of its target, and consequently cannot steal that player's role power.

Ricochet wrote:Hosts, can Angel use his one time dead role power steal at any point during phases or only during the Nights?

At any point.

For example, if Angel were to find out a player's role during Night 3, it could elect to use that power immediately at the start of Day 4 if such a power were immediately applicable.

Ricochet wrote:Hosts, does "following the vote" in Uh-Oh's case means for the order to be specifically Uh-Oh followed by its seduced?

Uh-Oh must vote the player first, then the seduced must follow.

However, this does not refer to final tally, but a follow at any time. So if Uh-Oh votes MovingPictures07, for example, and then the seduced player votes for MovingPictures07 after Uh-Oh and Uh-Oh's vote is cast on MovingPictures07 at that time, that's it. If either Uh-Oh or seduced or both moves his or her vote thereafter, it is irrelevant to the fact that the seduced player already followed Uh-Oh's vote.

Ricochet wrote:Also, are we actually allowed to talk about Uh-Oh and/or Golden in such specific manner?

Speculating on why you think someone might be a particular role based entirely on in-thread content is totally OK and not against the rules.

What would qualify as infodumping would be using language that implies outside-of-the-thread knowledge or utilizes non-thread content when speculating, whether intentionally or not.

What I have seen thus far falls under the former category and is acceptable. Just be mindful that infodumping can still be construed as such even if unintentional. If any of you are ever unsure, just ask me and Sloonei, and we will be happy to clarify.

Hope these answers have provided sufficient clarification.

Day 3 has ended. bea has been lynched. She was Warning Sign.

It is now Night 3. You have 19 hours to send in your PMs.