The Syndicate

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Apr 20, 2020 8:45 pm So fyi sig is a magnet for D1 lynches and I'm basically policy-not lynching him. Even if I am critical of the one post he's made, it was very sigly.

That doesn't mean he's town. But I'd personally rather ravish a radish

Yeah, I'm really torn there.

112 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 20, 2020 8:22 pm I think Nano is just mafia tbh.

[VOTE: NANOOKTHECONQUERER] aubergine

Hey 112, can you talk to me about this?

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Apr 20, 2020 7:55 pm

sig wrote: ↑Mon Apr 20, 2020 7:43 pm And if he isn't mafia Nutella probably is based on her reasoning for wanting him gone.

No.

MP's alignment has no bearing on nutella's. It's like you saying 'If Nutella's town she should know better' at the same time sussing MP in the previous post. If nutella's town then she doesn't know what MP is, and it doesn't make any sense to draw the conclusion you just drew.

Which, incidentally, set up a 2-lynch false dichotomy with a lot of shade and then a shrug to distance yourself from it.

Bad.

You and I agree here.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Apr 20, 2020 7:45 pm

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M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 20, 2020 7:08 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Apr 20, 2020 6:55 pm

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nutella wrote: ↑Mon Apr 20, 2020 1:46 pm Here's where I'm at

Long Con
Master Radishes
112
Hyena
juliets
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
sig
Jackofhearts2005
speedchuck
Poison Chan
Dragon D. Luffy
DrWilgy
TonyStarkPrime
M Plus 7

Damn I forgot Wilgy was even in the game, lol. Also had a hard time placing Jack as he hasn't said much of substance yet. Keeping an eye out for him.

[VOTE: M Plus 7] aubergine I feel more secure in this than in a Tony vote atm.

This plus the discussion of the inactive slot threw me off. Sorta a plinko read on M+7 and I'm not used to Nutella being more philosophical on strategy.

Hey Tony, what do you mean by this?

Nutella spent over a page discussing the perennial topic of the logic of an inactive lynch. It's an old favorite and I've sort of developed a general understanding of the arguments of different people. I'm not familiar with her generally expressing a view on it -- we've only played maybe half a dozen games, so I have a limited data set -- and so her focus on it here struck me as odd.

Okay, this makes sense to me, thanks.

sig wrote: ↑Mon Apr 20, 2020 7:43 pm And if he isn't mafia Nutella probably is based on her reasoning for wanting him gone.

Wait, why?

Hyena wrote: ↑Mon Apr 20, 2020 7:36 pm

Hyena wrote: ↑Mon Apr 20, 2020 7:35 pm I feel like everyone's townreading me. I don't feel like I've received any pressure from anyone today. I wouldn't be surprised if I'm attacked tonight and am dead N2.

To add to that, I feel like people aren't actively paying attention to me, or at least, the thoughts and reads I'm giving out. I've got a pretty good towncore, I think. {Me, MR, Nutella, Speed, Juliets, Long Con} -- no more than one mafia in there, I bet.

I'm trying to. What is your read of me?

Can you explain the juliets read for me?

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 20, 2020 7:30 pm

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 20, 2020 7:13 pm I... need to be head out again, but I'll be back and will try to be less posty next time while still actively solving, and I do apologize for bringing the thread down and not better solving because this has been a not great start.

Personally I'd rather you continue to post like crazy. I'm probably going to skim it but it's nice to get a good fell of the posts.

I'm trying to see if I can read you the way I read Jay, which is checking if he is actually controlling the direction of the thread or just doing busywork.

That seems like a good way actually.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Apr 20, 2020 7:20 pm I know people don't care for rainbows as much these days so I'll keep it short here.

112
Hyena

nutella
Dragon D. Luffy
Long Con

TonyStarkPrime
sig
Jackofhearts2005
Dr. Wilgy

juliets
MPlus7

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Master Radishes

colors are time consuming

I love these things, keep posting them.

Alright, I'm here, going to see what I can do. I feel like I'm at a loss.

Ugh, not really sure what to do here. I'll vote sig though because I'm unimpressed there and what he did could have been easily NAI at best.

[VOTE: sig] aubergine

Oh shit maybe I should move my vote before I go, hold on.

I... need to be head out again, but I'll be back and will try to be less posty next time while still actively solving, and I do apologize for bringing the thread down and not better solving because this has been a not great start.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 20, 2020 7:02 pm

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 20, 2020 3:40 pm "MP seems weird in a bad way he cleared Nutella really quickly and is a gut bad ping right now."

This is also just... I can't even. It's like he still doesn't know how I play this game all these years later.

I can't speak for others but I couldn't describe your playstyle if you pointed a gun to my head, other than with "posts a lot". You stopped playing not along after I started playing here.

Maybe I'm just an idiot and expect too much of people then.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 20, 2020 7:01 pm

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M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 20, 2020 3:39 pm Now I know sig is one of the most often mislynched players on our site, but let's talk about this post some more:

sig wrote: ↑Sun Apr 19, 2020 6:38 pm Not a fan of Nanook/Nutella interaction. But, on their own they're Null.
Radish is my first civ lean, not only was his joke funny, but he doesn't seem bad.
Speed seems okay.
MP seems weird in a bad way he cleared Nutella really quickly and is a gut bad ping right now.
Hyena seems so excited that it's tiring.
Juliet seems like her normal self
LC is a bit off, which probably means he's civ.
112, DDL, Wilgy no clue.
TSP is a gut ping.

I just did a quick skim will probably dig in a bit more later tonight.

linki: Heeeeey

What do people think of this? Is it a reasonable set of perceptions based on thread happenings?

It feels kind of unimpressive.

I expect Sig to start unleashing crazy tinfoil theories at some point.

If he fails to, lynch him.

Yeah, I'm not a fan of it either, and the only thing keeping me from wanting to lynch him is knowing it's sig, so I'm just like at *shrug* with him.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Apr 20, 2020 6:57 pm

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 20, 2020 6:55 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 20, 2020 6:18 pm I’m never lynching MP7 D1 for fear of his wolf game.

Does he even have a good wolf game? I think I’ve only seen him rand town.

I honestly think the difference between my games is pretty clear by D3.

Agenda? Faked dogpee? I'm scum.

No agenda? I'm probably more often wrong? I'm town.

Easy.

There are a lot of players that read this way. I get deciphered on day 4, I always have Jack on day 3, etc. Eventually, you reach a critical mass of those players and have to start picking up on things earlier.

Sure, you're right. I must be misunderstanding something about the push then, because I was just speaking in terms of something akin to a policy lynch.

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Mon Apr 20, 2020 6:56 pm

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 20, 2020 6:45 pm Hey MR, what are your current reads and/or POE? Sorry if this question is answered somewhere else.

Probs town: LC, 112, Speed, maybe Jack based off recent posts, maybe Hyena?

Not lynching per activity: PC, Wilgy

Inner PoE: TSP, DDL, sig

Outer PoE: Nook, nutella, I guess Juliets (not SRing her really, just don't know what her scum game looks like), making my mind up on you still


Ask me in a few minutes and I'll probably shuffle my PoE around.

Link: jfc MP stop posting

I'll try to be more efficient with my posting, I promise.

Thanks for this though. I'll throw one out once I feel like my reads are less cloudy, I feel like I haven't found my footing yet even though I should have.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Apr 20, 2020 6:55 pm

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nutella wrote: ↑Mon Apr 20, 2020 1:46 pm Here's where I'm at

Long Con
Master Radishes
112
Hyena
juliets
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
sig
Jackofhearts2005
speedchuck
Poison Chan
Dragon D. Luffy
DrWilgy
TonyStarkPrime
M Plus 7

Damn I forgot Wilgy was even in the game, lol. Also had a hard time placing Jack as he hasn't said much of substance yet. Keeping an eye out for him.

[VOTE: M Plus 7] aubergine I feel more secure in this than in a Tony vote atm.

This plus the discussion of the inactive slot threw me off. Sorta a plinko read on M+7 and I'm not used to Nutella being more philosophical on strategy.

Hey Tony, what do you mean by this?

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Apr 20, 2020 6:55 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Apr 20, 2020 6:22 pm I don't know what to do with MP anymore. I'm probably not going to lynch him today but... dang, trying to play mafia here.

I voted there because the entry posts and prodding questions felt obligatory and lackluster, as a gut thing. I wanted to see what fire he brought and what defense he tossed up.

There was some fire brought. But I read the defense as "you guys are freaking stupid and not making any sense" which not only doesn't work as a defense for me, but basically boils down to an Appeal to Emotion, which I despise.

That doesn't mean it's NAI or even scummy as a defense, but it doesn't work.

Yeah. The tilting didn't help, but the last post I quoted where he says he thinks I'm just a mistaken townie felt a little better. Except that he had just been pointing his finger at me earlier. So idk.

I honestly couldn't figure out your alignment during all of that because I kept flipping between thinking town!nutella should know me better but then only town!nutella could be tunneling me like this because surely scum!nutella would rather not bring all this attention to herself, pocket me, and just NK me if I ever become a problem.

settin' town bayck

I roleplayed without meaning to.

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Apr 20, 2020 6:53 pm

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 20, 2020 6:39 pm I'm honestly more incensed at nutella because I think she's being a bone-headed townie than anything nefarious, but admittedly my viewpoint on the matter is biased.

Fine, I'll stop being boneheaded about it. I'm not tunnelling. I just suspect you. Is that okay?


I honestly don't know how you enjoy the game if you get so upset that you have to leave the thread any time someone suspects you.

I'm sorry, and I mean no offense, I assure you. Mafia is a game of highs and lows for me, that's true every time. I just... I don't hold anything against you or LC at all for being killed N1 in the last game, but the very last thing I want in this game is to roll town and then start off the game as a mislynch for you guys because I'm a much better player in the mid-game than I am now, and so in addition to settin town back mathematically I really don't want that to happen. Then add in that I just felt like I didn't really understand, I also felt like I was getting piled on between sig, speedchuck, and then coming back to the thread and seeing I'm the leading wagon, and I just haven't played here much in a while and I don't mean to say stuff like that to guilt anyone, by all means if you genuinely suspect me you should vote me, but yeah. And then, add to that -- being introspective, the multigaming is likely increasing the amount of mafia-related stress I have on my plate right now.

I apologize, truly, but I hope that better explains this specific frame of mind and why I got particularly upset this time. I'll try to act more maturely about it.

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Apr 20, 2020 6:48 pm

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 20, 2020 6:14 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Apr 20, 2020 4:02 pm My point is, if MP is scum, he'll be dangerous if we don't catch him early and nip the powerwolf potential in the bud. Yes, it could be argued that if I turn out to be wrong it's a net worse loss for thread productivity, but if we don't solve his slot I'll be nervous about it all game and I just know that nobody else will be on board with it after a point. It's a... sacrifice I'm willing to make.

This is the dumbest logic of all time, and I suspect you for it because you should know better.

It's like lynching Jay or Epi or anyone else on Day 1 out of fear. It's cowardice.

No, it's not like that, because I actually suspect you, lol. You can be salty about it but that's just the truth.

Sorry, I just must really not understand it then. If I understood it better I wouldn't have felt so upset about it.

I thought the main reason was my entrance, but then I thought you retracted that, so... ?

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Apr 20, 2020 6:47 pm

112 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 20, 2020 10:32 am [VOTE: Dragon D. Luffy] aubergine

I think his exhaustion is more likely due to rolling mafia than anything else. He says he's not as interested and doesn't know why he signed up, which in my experience is more of a wolf tell than a town one.

Is this broadly true?

I'd say it depends.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Apr 20, 2020 6:41 pm I might could switch to Nanook or MR. I've had my beefs there, though some of my issues with nanook have been dismissed by meta. TSP has also not improved his standing with me, and not just because he's been sitting on me for a long time without doing anything with it.

Or we could be super lame and go after a low poster. Like Jack. >:D

What do you think of juliets now by the way?

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Apr 20, 2020 6:24 pm At this point the absolute worst thing I've seen from MP is probably the 112 vote. I see nothing suspicious in 112, the one MP post I've seen about his suspicion is just about connecting nutella and 112 (why not just vote nutella if that's the only reason), and if perchance MP doesn't actually want to lynch there I don't know what the point of the vote is.

I'm going to get yelled at for this.

My reads are lacking confidence, I had a ping, and I wanted to interact with her and pressure it a bit. Not that I wanted her lynched by EOD per se.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Apr 20, 2020 6:22 pm I don't know what to do with MP anymore. I'm probably not going to lynch him today but... dang, trying to play mafia here.

I voted there because the entry posts and prodding questions felt obligatory and lackluster, as a gut thing. I wanted to see what fire he brought and what defense he tossed up.

There was some fire brought. But I read the defense as "you guys are freaking stupid and not making any sense" which not only doesn't work as a defense for me, but basically boils down to an Appeal to Emotion, which I despise.

That doesn't mean it's NAI or even scummy as a defense, but it doesn't work.

It's not something I'm posting with the intention of wanting it to work.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 20, 2020 6:18 pm I’m never lynching MP7 D1 for fear of his wolf game.

Does he even have a good wolf game? I think I’ve only seen him rand town.

I honestly think the difference between my games is pretty clear by D3.

Agenda? Faked dogpee? I'm scum.

No agenda? I'm probably more often wrong? I'm town.

Easy.

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Mon Apr 20, 2020 5:35 pm I will say that I feel I'm seeing 112's town game here. I get the hesitation because of WC1, but that was seriously the best scum game from her I've ever seen, and I had her locktown in spec chat right up till 'bye'. So if the case against her is just 'she's bouncing around a lot' that's not enough.

I will take this into consideration, thank you.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Apr 20, 2020 5:11 pm

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 20, 2020 3:31 pm

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nutella wrote: ↑Mon Apr 20, 2020 2:36 pm

112 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 20, 2020 2:34 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Apr 20, 2020 2:31 pm

112 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 20, 2020 2:16 pm ok

[VOTE: Master Radishes] aubergine

.....Didn't you say MR was lock town

It wasn't a serious post.

And let me throw the shade back at you whataboutistically and ask: how do I know you're not playing up the 'I suck as mafia' angle in order to get people to look away from you?

Because it's true? Because I'm not worried about anyone looking at me in the first place?

Hot take: this interaction is between two scummates.

I do not understand this post. I guess it attracts attention, which hot takes are supposed to do by definition, but I don't see the reasoning behind it.

I guess I'm probably off then. It just was an immediate interpretation my gut had as I was reading it even if my brain discarded it.

sig wrote: ↑Mon Apr 20, 2020 5:06 pm

sig wrote: ↑Mon Apr 20, 2020 5:04 pm So I'd say I'm an amazing reader of Nanook, the best in fact, there are no better readers of nanook than I Sigurd the best reader of nanook.
I've been right every game so far. Last game doesn't count since I had no genuine reads, but Mac.

I got distracted and didn't finish my point. Oops.

Okay so, I'm not seeing the suspicion thrown his way yet. Wouldn't wanna lynch him today.
112 has an odd playstyle, but not worth being a D1 lynch. He seems kinda like a more active Wilgy type. So I'm hesitant to lynch based off that.

Nutella seems hella confident this game, which is generally outside of her civ meta correct? Having said that I agree with her on MP, so Imma reread both real fast and see what's up there.

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 20, 2020 3:40 pm "MP seems weird in a bad way he cleared Nutella really quickly and is a gut bad ping right now."

This is also just... I can't even. It's like he still doesn't know how I play this game all these years later.

I don't like this reaction from him. Especially since it was my first post and had no real solid reads.

Can you seriously ever not suspect me? It's relatively agitating.

112 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 20, 2020 4:45 pm I feel like the scum team is largely caught at this point but I'm still not too sure who it is, which is sort of to say they're not caught, but I think in generally we're doing a good job of sorting them somehow if that makes any sense. I have no justifications for saying this.

That's odd because I feel like the game is very cloudy and unpredictable right now.

112 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 20, 2020 4:44 pm Nutella has convinced me.

[VOTE: M Plus 7] aubergine

What was convincing?

Hyena wrote: ↑Mon Apr 20, 2020 4:40 pm

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juliets wrote: ↑Mon Apr 20, 2020 4:33 pm

Hyena wrote: ↑Sun Apr 19, 2020 7:37 pm

juliets wrote: ↑Sun Apr 19, 2020 7:22 pm @Hyena could you talk to me about your 112 read? My first impression of her today was town, mostly because her posts seemed free flowing and not thought out. What are you seeing that leads you to think she might be scum? I don't play regularly with her so I don't really have meta data.

Okay, so for 112, it's more of a gut read at the moment. I'm getting vibes similar to the ones I got from both her AND Evenstar in the champs game I played with them in last year. Specifically, it's the "Hyena's a tricky player" thing she said. Evenstar said something to that effect and pocketed me with it, so it pings me whenever I see something along those lines. It's even more suspicious to me since 112 also said she immediately townread me and Nutella from, like, page 1.

OK, here's what I'm remembering. By the way I have pulled up that WC game and am making my way through 112's posts there. It's slow going because I'm reading her in isolation as opposed to trying to read the whole game.

Is this still how you feel about her? Has anything that's happened since furthered your suspicion?

No, nothing has happened to further my suspicion. It hasn't gotten any better either though. It's remained static throughout D1. The reason why I'm still considering 112 as an option is because I feel like I was able to read her town in the Inception game. Thus, it's not like I can't find her as town when she is town. She's just not showing she's town right now.

What do you think of her entrance and reads progression on MR?

112 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 20, 2020 4:39 pm

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M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 20, 2020 3:43 pm

112 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 19, 2020 8:38 am DrWigly's entrance was fishy and I agree with Nute's quick wit about calling him on it.

Hyena is a tricky player but I think is deserving of the benefit of the doubt at least until LyLo (or later this round, your call).

Hey 112, I believe I spoke to Wilgy and said his NAI entrance is always something like "I'm (not) a doctor / X and whatever", so can you talk to me about why you think it was fishy if there is a point otherwise?

mostly i didn't like his tone lol

that's all i go by when i don't have meta on page 1

i didn't think anything of you saying his normal entrance has something to do with being a doctor or not

Got it, thanks.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 20, 2020 4:38 pm

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 20, 2020 3:25 pm

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 20, 2020 1:58 pm Now it's time for you people to explain why everyone and their dog is townreading Radishes because I don't see it.

Alternatively, let's lynch him.

I still think he's mildly suspicious tbh, but he is actively contributing and I want to pressure elsewhere before this EoD.

What else you got?

Nothing I particularly feel like lynching, tbh.

Just a few civ reads I already mentioned. Nutella, 112 and I guess speedchuck.

Solving by POE is of course a thing. Is there anyone else you'd prefer not to lynch against the field?

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Apr 20, 2020 4:36 pm I don't have any specific reason to scumread 112, but I don't have the strongest townread of her either and she deepwolfed really well in wc1 so I understand and respect Hyena's paranoia there. I probably won't be voting for 112 today unless something big happens, but she's in the back of my mind as someone to be careful about getting too comfortable with.

Can you tell me more about how 112 normally plays?

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Apr 20, 2020 4:34 pm

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M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 20, 2020 3:38 pm Against my typical habits, I'm actively avoiding sharing a rainbow list right now because my reads are very much in flux right now regarding the most active posters, and otherwise more people need to be pressured before this game is over.

Hey LC, what are your reads buddy?

I'm generally feeling suspicious of 112 and Nanook across the day. I haven't really pinpointed for myself why, but I would join those wagons if they were a go at crunch time.

I don't suspect Mplus7, and even if I did, I am unlikely to contribute to his Day 1 lynch after I specifically called for and performed his Night 1 kill in the last game we played, Mafia is fun online social time, and I want to hang with my old friend.

I am not suspicious of DDL for the Radishes accusation. nutella sure is, but that's ok. Not really down with voting nutella.

Juliets could be an option. I don't have a townread of her.

My vote has been on Tony for too long. He could be bad, but I'd rather vote 112 or Nanook. [VOTE: Nanook] aubergine because 112's wagon is already revving up.

Thanks for responding. Talk to me about 112 and/or Nanook if you want. I know you said you haven't pinpointed anything specific... is it more like a general feel or are there any posts that you think people should be taking a look at?

[VOTE: Nanook] aubergine

Feeling this out.

Hey MR, what are your current reads and/or POE? Sorry if this question is answered somewhere else.

juliets wrote: ↑Mon Apr 20, 2020 4:22 pm @M Plus 7, I'm not following your read on 112 and nutella. Did you think that interaction between them was distancing? What about it made you think that as opposed to just a normal interaction (assuming that's what you thought). I'm not reading either of them as scum right now so whatever you're seeing I'd like to know.

@Hyena I see your vote for 112 but I think you have talked about why you find her scummy so I'll go back to your posts.

I thought it could be, yeah, but I'm not sold on it by any means.

For the record, I don't prefer to lynch 112 here... I think, but after a strong entrance I've had my doubts and I wanted to see what others were thinking.

Hyena wrote: ↑Mon Apr 20, 2020 4:15 pm

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M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 20, 2020 3:18 pm

Hyena wrote: ↑Mon Apr 20, 2020 1:00 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Apr 20, 2020 12:53 pm Tony has very few game relevant posts. He's spent more time talking about spew and alex jones than actually playing. I don't have a problem with his initial ddl vote, but the fact that his only suspicions come down to ddl=bad and speed=disingenous is not great.

He did say he was playing in three games at once, but he's had time to post here. Even gut reactions would be nice, but scum don't have guts.

Yeah, I noticed the lack of game relevant posts, too. I think the main thing that had kept me from joining his wagon in the last 12-24 hours was that Long Con was on the wagon. I like him more now though, and MR has been continuing to settle into town territory in my head.

I might try to start a wagon on a lurker though (Poison in this case since Nanook seems open to them), just to see what happens.

What do you think would happen, and how would that inform your reads if the subject of your vote isn't really posting?

I never really know what will happen when I make votes like that. What I hope for though is chatter, banter, and all sorts of other reactions. I didn't vote for Poison to get a read on Poison. I voted them to get a read on other people. I wanted to see what they'd do, what they'd say, etc. It's pretty much why I like tying wagons so much, too. I already talked about some of what I gained out of it, namely the 'never more than one scum in {nutella, MR, Speedchuck}' read that no one seemed to comment on.

Thanks for this.

juliets wrote: ↑Mon Apr 20, 2020 4:08 pm

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 20, 2020 3:36 pm

juliets wrote: ↑Mon Apr 20, 2020 3:27 pm Ok this sounds more like the civ MPlus7 I remember.

What about it specifically?

You came out firing questions off, trying to pin people down for their opinions and takes.

What do you think I would do differently if I was scum?

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Apr 20, 2020 4:03 pm Also his read of me and 112 is fake af. Like. That cannot be a real take.

I called it a hot take on two separate occasions because yes, I thought it, but I also thought it sounded pretty dumb, but I wanted to throw it out there anyway.

If there's a weak point I have it's that I don't handle suspicion of me very well, especially if I feel like I'm actually trying to solve the game and/or I don't understand the suspicion and in this case I felt like both of those were true.

I'm honestly more incensed at nutella because I think she's being a bone-headed townie than anything nefarious, but admittedly my viewpoint on the matter is biased.

I'm really sorry, everyone, I feel like a major asshole right now. I promise I'll do more things, and while I often get emotionally invested in games, I generally enjoy mafia because I'm a masochist and I like all of you. For those who haven't played with me before, I assure you that I'm not usually this unpleasant and that thread environment is important to me.

Okay, seriously, gone.

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Apr 20, 2020 4:02 pm My point is, if MP is scum, he'll be dangerous if we don't catch him early and nip the powerwolf potential in the bud. Yes, it could be argued that if I turn out to be wrong it's a net worse loss for thread productivity, but if we don't solve his slot I'll be nervous about it all game and I just know that nobody else will be on board with it after a point. It's a... sacrifice I'm willing to make.

What the fuck even is your suspicion? I'm here doing shit. I have nearly 100 posts. What exactly do you expect from me?

I'm so fucking tilted right now, I'm walking away. I'll be back again later when I can calm down.

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Apr 20, 2020 4:02 pm My point is, if MP is scum, he'll be dangerous if we don't catch him early and nip the powerwolf potential in the bud. Yes, it could be argued that if I turn out to be wrong it's a net worse loss for thread productivity, but if we don't solve his slot I'll be nervous about it all game and I just know that nobody else will be on board with it after a point. It's a... sacrifice I'm willing to make.

This is the dumbest logic of all time, and I suspect you for it because you should know better.

It's like lynching Jay or Epi or anyone else on Day 1 out of fear. It's cowardice.

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Apr 20, 2020 3:58 pm

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 20, 2020 3:39 pm Now I know sig is one of the most often mislynched players on our site, but let's talk about this post some more:

sig wrote: ↑Sun Apr 19, 2020 6:38 pm Not a fan of Nanook/Nutella interaction. But, on their own they're Null.
Radish is my first civ lean, not only was his joke funny, but he doesn't seem bad.
Speed seems okay.
MP seems weird in a bad way he cleared Nutella really quickly and is a gut bad ping right now.
Hyena seems so excited that it's tiring.
Juliet seems like her normal self
LC is a bit off, which probably means he's civ.
112, DDL, Wilgy no clue.
TSP is a gut ping.

I just did a quick skim will probably dig in a bit more later tonight.

linki: Heeeeey

What do people think of this? Is it a reasonable set of perceptions based on thread happenings?

Yes.

Well, I was kind of hoping for more, but I appreciate the response.