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by Tangrowth
Mon Nov 21, 2016 1:52 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Monkey Island [ENDGAME]
Replies: 2181
Views: 53551

Re: Monkey Island [DAY 2]

ISO of Elohcin / motel room 2.0

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Days 0-1
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Elohcin wrote:
Scotty wrote:Yeah I confused. Where does Monkey come into this?

Will check my role in a bit
So what...you just happened upon the Day 0 thread and haven't looked at your PM? Weird.
Elo's second post sees her commenting "weird" with respect to Scotty not checking his role right away, but nothing with respect to Wilgy. I'm not sure how to interpret this.
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Elohcin wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:
Elohcin wrote:
Scotty wrote:Yeah I confused. Where does Monkey come into this?

Will check my role in a bit
So what...you just happened upon the Day 0 thread and haven't looked at your PM? Weird.
Is that not believable?
I don't know. I get an e-mail when I receive a PM. I received my email, clicked the link, read my role and THEN came into the thread. I guess I didn't think people hung out on the board index page waiting for the Day 0 thread to pop up and go there first.
Quin wrote: Why did you call out Scotty for not checking his role card, but not Wilgy?
I must have missed where Wilgy said the same thing. I guess its not that weird after all.

Linki: LC is here?! :D
I inquired regarding Elo's post (asked her if Scotty not checking her role is not believable) and Quin inquired why she did not say anything about Wilgy. This was her response. I historically have difficulty following Elohcin's mindset, and I'm unsure if any alignment indicative content is really here. I personally don't see anything. If you all do, please point it out.
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Elohcin wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:Hey Elo, are you bad?
No.

Who are you Nachomamma? Are you new to mafia. Are you a momma? Do you like nachos? I like nachos. :haha: :haha: :haha:
When I asked Elo if she is bad, she said "No." Take that as you will. :p

Then she got replaced by motel room 2.0. There's really nothing I can glean from her post history, unfortunately.

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Day 2
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motel room wrote:Guess who's back you wang-dang-doodles
:workit:
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motel room wrote:Where's the supertown that was campaigning for poor motel room [1]'s lynch? Is he still supertowning?
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motel room wrote:
Scotty wrote:Again the entire premise of lurking low posters only works if there's ample evidence. I'm not sure it's the best course of action, but it is something. I happen to be on Epi's side based on that fact that there were missing actions. I don't know what constitutes "lots" but it's a pretty good assumption.
If a role were blocked by the blocker, I'm not even sure how that info would be leaked since we can't infodump.

Or as I already mentioned, both teams targeted golden.

Those are the 3 options I see here... I'm just not sure what to do with that. Might as well be playing lawn darts with the low posters, which I'm not sure is worth gambling with yet. Im keeping my eyes on Black rock, Boomslang and Soneji as suspects, but I'm not even close to pulling the trigger on any of them yet
This post feels like a presentation and it's got that here's a thing, but then here's the opposite of that thing structure that they do in cold reading.
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motel room wrote:
Boomslang wrote:I tend to agree with Epi's line of reasoning about culling inactives, having just been part of the Three Kingdoms debacle. I think sig is way off-base with the following thought:
sig wrote:I think its just as likely one of the roles stopped the second night kill.
There are only three protectors, and one of them would need to successfully target a kill sender with only a single day of gameplay information. If there were eight missing PMs, that's a lot more possibilities for missed kills.
Boomslang wrote:Just realized that eight PMs figure was from Epi and not confirmed for this game. Disregard, but I still think the odds of a baddie being hidden among the inactives are pretty good.
What happened in Three Kingdoms?

Cos I think obviously there's "a baddie hidden among the inactives" cos there always is, but surely the start of the game with the most people alive and fresh why tf would anyone say out loud oh it must be the quiet people and be serious.
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motel room wrote:
Scotty wrote:
motel room wrote:
Scotty wrote:Again the entire premise of lurking low posters only works if there's ample evidence. I'm not sure it's the best course of action, but it is something. I happen to be on Epi's side based on that fact that there were missing actions. I don't know what constitutes "lots" but it's a pretty good assumption.
If a role were blocked by the blocker, I'm not even sure how that info would be leaked since we can't infodump.

Or as I already mentioned, both teams targeted golden.

Those are the 3 options I see here... I'm just not sure what to do with that. Might as well be playing lawn darts with the low posters, which I'm not sure is worth gambling with yet. Im keeping my eyes on Black rock, Boomslang and Soneji as suspects, but I'm not even close to pulling the trigger on any of them yet
This post feels like a presentation and it's got that here's a thing, but then here's the opposite of that thing structure that they do in cold reading.
Welcome back!

In a way it is a presentation, of my thought process.

What do you think of said the thoughts i proposed?
I think they all could have happened - which do you think is the most likely?

You dropped three names and I think that's the substance of the post. What to do with that, we'll see.
"motel room's back, baby!" is what this series of entrance posts screams to me. In my history playing with motel room and in noting the observations of those who have played with him more extensively, I feel confident in my assessment that town motel room typically conveys a sense of urgency / poking around a pile of rubble so to speak when he enters the thread, even when throwing around small questions or observations. That is the sense I get here, and I have found that he does not capture the same insightful poking as mafia (note to self: analyze future posts to see whether his subsequent pokings seem legit). I know this set of five posts isn't much of anything super substantial, but I like this stuff, just like I did in Mad Max. This is what I was hoping to see in motel room 1.0.
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motel room wrote:Think I'd vote metalmarsh if I had to vote right now
motel room expresses a desire to lynch Metalmarsh, though I'm not sure why. Ehhhh.
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motel room wrote:
a2thezebra wrote:But I already voted for Snow Dog who is also bad so #YOLO :cloud9:
Snow Dog wrote:
a2thezebra wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
a2thezebra wrote:I want to lynch Quin.

That's right suckers I can talk.
I never thought otherwise.
Your OMGUS historical revisionism game is on point! :clap:
I never once posted an opinion on the matter.
Snow Dog wrote:I sense you are trying to rile me. I'll ignore for now.
How come you're not interested in why she thinks you're bad and put a non-changeable vote down, Snow Dog?
This was a worthwhile question to ask. I like this post because at face value it illustrates a motel room who cares about getting a better understanding of Snow Dog's thought process, presumably with the intent of getting an alignment read on him. A member of the mafia would have only motivation to fake that intention, but motel room's question seems insightful and sincere for my taste.
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motel room wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:
motel room wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:
motel room wrote:
Scotty wrote:Again the entire premise of lurking low posters only works if there's ample evidence. I'm not sure it's the best course of action, but it is something. I happen to be on Epi's side based on that fact that there were missing actions. I don't know what constitutes "lots" but it's a pretty good assumption.
If a role were blocked by the blocker, I'm not even sure how that info would be leaked since we can't infodump.

Or as I already mentioned, both teams targeted golden.

Those are the 3 options I see here... I'm just not sure what to do with that. Might as well be playing lawn darts with the low posters, which I'm not sure is worth gambling with yet. Im keeping my eyes on Black rock, Boomslang and Soneji as suspects, but I'm not even close to pulling the trigger on any of them yet
This post feels like a presentation and it's got that here's a thing, but then here's the opposite of that thing structure that they do in cold reading.
Do you gain any potential alignment read from Scotty as a result?

And welcome back! :D
From his follow up chats, I'm into the guy.
Wait, sorry, I'm tired and dense right now. What do you mean by "into the guy"?
Means I like him, putting him as town for now.
motel room prodded Scotty in two posts (the one quoted here by me as well as this other one I haven't yet highlighted in this ISO and makes an assessment that he is town. I like it. motel room seems to be trying to legitimately figure other players out.
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motel room wrote:I don't do rainbows but this is what I've got scrawled from a read through starting somewhere during Night 1, already sort of said most of it

Good - quin, MP, scotty
Bad - metalmarsh, dfaraday, sig
Golden (vouched for) - Long Con, MP
Here is motel room's "rainbow" (he doesn't do them). I think there is plenty of substantiation in his post history to believe his Scotty read, but the rest I'm not as sure about. I feel conflicted about this post. I like the attempt, but it would be nice if motel room could elaborate on some of these reads in greater detail since his thoughts on them aren't 100% clear despite his claim that he sort of said most of it.
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motel room wrote:Lynch is ending before i get up for work so im down to start the sig train
Then he votes for sig. It is unclear what he thought about my ISO. He did leave bad gut feelings about sig in his post before (which was hours prior), so I guess there's that.

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I had Elohcin as a null and subsequently a slight mafia read because I couldn't glean anything from her content. I still cannot. However, now we have motel room 2.0's content to judge!

motel room hasn't posted a ton since his re-entrance to the game this day cycle, but he has posted plenty for me to get a starting feel for him, and I like the feel I'm getting. He very much appears to be legitimately hunting for baddies even with low-volume content posts. The only criticism I have is that too much of his content is seemingly gut-based and there isn't enough of a 'paper trail' regarding his thoughts on players for my liking. That is potentially problematic because mafia members have to manufacture all of their content and suspicions, so gut-based and vague reads are easier for a mafia motel room to fake. With that said, I'm going with my gut and calling him a moderate town read.
by Tangrowth
Mon Nov 21, 2016 1:32 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Monkey Island [ENDGAME]
Replies: 2181
Views: 53551

Re: Monkey Island [DAY 2]

Snow Dog wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:This day period is pretty lame, folks. There has not been enough discussion or attempts to uncover members of the mafia at all. I anticipate much of the player list will vote in a similar to d1 fashion (including low poster policy lynch votes and unsubstantiated votes), which is unacceptable.
true.

I might vote the zebra again, I seem to have touched a nerve there. trouble is I just don't know her game. can anyone help here?
Well, I looked at her post history already, and unfortunately I don't think I'll be any help. I've seen her mislynched for playing really detached, chaotic, gut-based games like she is right now, but her MO is to go aggressive supertown. I've seen enough of the former (and her behavior here) to feel hesitant. I don't really see anything illuminating in her post history. What would compel you to vote for her again over any of the other low content posters?
by Tangrowth
Mon Nov 21, 2016 1:22 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Monkey Island [ENDGAME]
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Views: 53551

Re: Monkey Island [DAY 2]

This day period is pretty lame, folks. There has not been enough discussion or attempts to uncover members of the mafia at all. I anticipate much of the player list will vote in a similar to d1 fashion (including low poster policy lynch votes and unsubstantiated votes), which is unacceptable.
by Tangrowth
Mon Nov 21, 2016 1:20 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Monkey Island [ENDGAME]
Replies: 2181
Views: 53551

Re: Monkey Island [DAY 2]

Snow Dog wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:Hey Snowy, why did you vote for zebra?
i didn't like the vote for motel or you. i had already announced I'd probably go for a low poster and zebra was top of the list.
Why did you vote early?
I didn't. I left it to the final minute.
I'm an idiot, ignore me. My bad.
by Tangrowth
Mon Nov 21, 2016 1:20 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Monkey Island [ENDGAME]
Replies: 2181
Views: 53551

Re: Monkey Island [DAY 2]

DFaraday wrote:I read over the last couple of pages and voted BR. I don't generally like going after low posters, but I think in this case there could be merit to doing so given the missed NK. I also didn't find the Sig case compelling, as in my experience civs often say vague things or make unannounced changes in their stances quite a lot (I know I do). Sig is so often mislynched anyway, I have a hard time actually finding him suspicious most of the time.

Motel, why was I on your bad list?
Is there anything in sig's post history that potentially leads you to believe he is town?
by Tangrowth
Mon Nov 21, 2016 1:18 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Monkey Island [ENDGAME]
Replies: 2181
Views: 53551

Re: Monkey Island [DAY 2]

Epignosis wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:
Epignosis wrote:I voted for Black Rock.

Who opposes her lynch, and why do you oppose it?
I'm not particularly opposed, but I already have one other player I'd rather vote for (sig), and there is still plenty of time left in Day 2 and plenty of players to ISO. So I likely won't be joining you, but we'll see.

What do you think of sig?
sig is one of those individuals I always find myself needing more concrete evidence against; a lot of people have a history pegging sig wrongly. Not that it matters much since one team did kill, but I don't think sig would miss a kill. In any event, I already voted, so I'm not the one you need to convince today.
Your caution regarding sig is precisely why I'm clamoring for feedback, because I've contributed to his mislynch in past games plenty myself, but I set that fear aside when judging his content. My problem is that I'm afraid I'm not going to get the feedback I desire. It doesn't matter whether you already voted; if you are town, your input is still valued so that other members of the town can read you and work with your assessment as well. Did you have any specific thoughts on any observations or post interpretations I noted?
by Tangrowth
Mon Nov 21, 2016 1:16 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Monkey Island [ENDGAME]
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Views: 53551

Re: Monkey Island [DAY 2]

Vompatti wrote:I voted for MP k
Is there a reason?
by Tangrowth
Mon Nov 21, 2016 1:16 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Monkey Island [ENDGAME]
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Re: Monkey Island [DAY 2]

Soneji wrote:Not fully caught up but Epi and MP would be my top suspects at the moment. MP's vote on motel room can certainly be attributed to self preservation, yet with all the time he spent making posts d1, he didn't make any push against anyone. No courage of conviction. More then that, his response to Epi's rainbow analysis was pretty blown out of proportion, a tl;dr defense against what was a pretty ridiculous analysis by Epi.

That ridiculous analysis plus him going after an inactive at this point in the game is why I suspect Epignosis. The analysis seems more like a premeditated move than having an epiphany and pursuing it with fervor, by the way in which it was written and it being on a day one that was noticeably barebones in terms of reads. Even if his general findings were true and he did happen to notice this pattern specifically, hinging on it D1 is folly. Better to let MP continue what hes doing and get him with more concrete evidence later, then let him weasel out of your weak reasoning and straighten his act.

It is possible they are both scum, one pirate, one cannibal. MP's high volume of posts certainly lend itself towards a larger chance of slipping.

[VOTE: ] aubergine
[VOTE:

You're right that I didn't make a push against anyone. I think I made my thoughts on where I stood with everyone quite clear, and I did not have any notable suspects throughout d1. Why do you think that makes me suspicious?

Furthermore, I did perhaps overreact to Epi's observation regarding my rainbow lists, but if you think that his analysis was ridiculous, then... again, I'm left wondering how any of these conclusions lead you to suspect me. Help me out here.

Do you have any thoughts on anyone else?]
aubergine
by Tangrowth
Mon Nov 21, 2016 1:13 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Monkey Island [ENDGAME]
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Views: 53551

Re: Monkey Island [DAY 2]

Boomslang wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:Am I being too harsh on sig? Are there town interpretations of his behavior where I thought he seemed like he was manufacturing his thoughts? Or do you agree with me that he looks bad? Or does he look even worse than I am assessing? What do you all think? This is important, especially if people are going to come in here and just hop on the wagon. Don't do that. Talk to me and the thread.

BBL for now, more ISOs incoming once I return.
I think you have a very good point with sig's back-to-back posts re: Nacho. I also agree that sig's last sentence in the "I find that to be very odd" post about you is superfluous and is there only to create suspicion. As an alternative interpretation, sig may not have had time at the moment to develop the case and left that as a marker for others. He does develop that case in the later post, and I think we shouldn't gloss over the fact that you defend against a meta interpretation by saying you tend to roll scum. That's deflecting the point off of your behavior onto the vagaries of the game.
That's fair. Would you consider voting for him, or are you still pushing for Wilgy?
by Tangrowth
Mon Nov 21, 2016 1:12 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Monkey Island [ENDGAME]
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Views: 53551

Re: Monkey Island [DAY 2]

Snow Dog wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:Am I being too harsh on sig? Are there town interpretations of his behavior where I thought he seemed like he was manufacturing his thoughts? Or do you agree with me that he looks bad? Or does he look even worse than I am assessing? What do you all think? This is important, especially if people are going to come in here and just hop on the wagon. Don't do that. Talk to me and the thread.

BBL for now, more ISOs incoming once I return.
i have found your analysis on on sig quite compelling. What are your thought on Quin?
Compelling is too strong a word. But it leaves food for thought. Reading it again I'm not sure. I think I agree that I would place him slight possibilty of mafia.
What moments in sig's history give you pause from assigning him a stronger mafia read? (i.e., what parts of his history do you think look town?)
by Tangrowth
Mon Nov 21, 2016 1:11 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Monkey Island [ENDGAME]
Replies: 2181
Views: 53551

Re: Monkey Island [DAY 2]

Snow Dog wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:Am I being too harsh on sig? Are there town interpretations of his behavior where I thought he seemed like he was manufacturing his thoughts? Or do you agree with me that he looks bad? Or does he look even worse than I am assessing? What do you all think? This is important, especially if people are going to come in here and just hop on the wagon. Don't do that. Talk to me and the thread.

BBL for now, more ISOs incoming once I return.
i have found your analysis on on sig quite compelling. What are your thought on Quin?
I'm tentatively feeling alright about Quin, but he showed us in Mad Max that he is capable of going full supatown while bad. Let me revisit this after ISOing him.
by Tangrowth
Mon Nov 21, 2016 1:10 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Monkey Island [ENDGAME]
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Views: 53551

Re: Monkey Island [DAY 2]

Snow Dog wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:Hey Snowy, why did you vote for zebra?
i didn't like the vote for motel or you. i had already announced I'd probably go for a low poster and zebra was top of the list.
Why did you vote early?
by Tangrowth
Mon Nov 21, 2016 1:05 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Monkey Island [ENDGAME]
Replies: 2181
Views: 53551

Re: Monkey Island [DAY 2]

I'm here and ready to roll out some more ISOs. :mafia:
by Tangrowth
Mon Nov 21, 2016 9:25 am
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Monkey Island [ENDGAME]
Replies: 2181
Views: 53551

Re: Monkey Island [DAY 2]

Am I being too harsh on sig? Are there town interpretations of his behavior where I thought he seemed like he was manufacturing his thoughts? Or do you agree with me that he looks bad? Or does he look even worse than I am assessing? What do you all think? This is important, especially if people are going to come in here and just hop on the wagon. Don't do that. Talk to me and the thread.

BBL for now, more ISOs incoming once I return.
by Tangrowth
Mon Nov 21, 2016 9:24 am
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Monkey Island [ENDGAME]
Replies: 2181
Views: 53551

Re: Monkey Island [DAY 2]

Hey Snowy, why did you vote for zebra?
by Tangrowth
Mon Nov 21, 2016 9:23 am
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Monkey Island [ENDGAME]
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Views: 53551

Re: Monkey Island [DAY 2]

Quin wrote:A rainbow list for MP and I to have a chat about later :nicenod: . Most of these are substantiated and would ideally do with a more in depth ISO. No specific order, other than the obvious.

Nachomamma8

Boomslang
MovingPictures07
Elohcin/motel room 2.0
Scotty
metalmarsh89
DrWilgy
MacDougall

Vompatti
DFaraday
Snow Dog
nijuukyougou


Black Rock
Soneji
a2thezebra
Epignosis
sig
Long Con



@linki - I was just about to do the same thing before I went to bed. Voted sig.
Oooooh, a shiny rainbow, I love it! How the hell is Nacho still ahead of me? What do I have to do for you people? :pout: :p

I need to continue my ISO assessments this morning (they will have to wait until after teaching though), so some of these players I don't have super firm reads on. But we have some cognitive dissonance. Why slight town on MM and Wilgy? What did you think of my crappy Wilgy ISO? Why is Snow Dog a null (right?) read? I have more questions but I'll leave it at that for now.
by Tangrowth
Mon Nov 21, 2016 9:20 am
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Monkey Island [ENDGAME]
Replies: 2181
Views: 53551

Re: Monkey Island [DAY 2]

motel room wrote:Lynch is ending before i get up for work so im down to start the sig train
Why? Did you find my ISO compelling? If so, what specifically compelled you to give sig your vote?

I do feel relatively confident in my findings, but I don't want to start a bandwagon here. Discussion should be had.
by Tangrowth
Mon Nov 21, 2016 9:20 am
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Monkey Island [ENDGAME]
Replies: 2181
Views: 53551

Re: Monkey Island [DAY 2]

Metalmarsh89 wrote:
Epignosis wrote:Listen.

Black Rock has two posts. That's it. If she's good, she isn't doing anything to find Mafia. If she's bad, bingo.

Couple that with the knowledge that lots of people missed Night 1 and only one person died, and again BINGO.

Stop being cute.
Ok I'll bite.
    • break;
vote(blackRock);
Hey MM, what reads do you have at this time?
by Tangrowth
Mon Nov 21, 2016 9:19 am
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Monkey Island [ENDGAME]
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Re: Monkey Island [DAY 2]

Long Con wrote:Those were huge. I haven't read them yet, but they must have taken you a long time. :puppy: .
Yeah, they can take a while. The sig one took especially long. I have gotten a little quicker at them over time though.

Curious what thoughts you have on any of them!
by Tangrowth
Mon Nov 21, 2016 12:51 am
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Monkey Island [ENDGAME]
Replies: 2181
Views: 53551

Re: Monkey Island [DAY 2]

Well, I'm out. See you all tomorrow. :offtobed:
by Tangrowth
Mon Nov 21, 2016 12:50 am
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Monkey Island [ENDGAME]
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Views: 53551

Re: Monkey Island [DAY 2]

Nachomamma8 wrote:This weekend ended up being a weekend that was surprisingly productive for all things that aren't mafia; I'll try to catch up in full in the morning and then will be back to regular activity levels after tomorrow (which will be another mostly quiet day)
Looking forward to your thoughts.
by Tangrowth
Mon Nov 21, 2016 12:50 am
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Monkey Island [ENDGAME]
Replies: 2181
Views: 53551

Re: Monkey Island [DAY 2]

Scotty wrote:boarding a flight to Cali right now and won't want to mafia on my way to our next stop, so I'll post now and check back tomorrow
MovingPictures07 wrote:Hey Scotty, got any reads you want to throw at the thread?
As you probably know, I tend not to like to throw around civ reads too early.
But, I get good vibes from you, Epi, and...surprisingly, sig (NOT DOG).
I think zebra is my biggest baddie read right now. I don't remember if she ever got back to me why she suspected Snow and not me. Her behavior is either a flamboyant townie that is full of WIFOM or a blatant baddie. It's hard for me to differentiate but I'm leaning bad.
Of the 3 N1 inactives, I like that Boom responded to it, but I am actually leaning towards him as a slight mafia read. His inference that he was around but just didn't post doesn't sit well with me.
Quin wrote:I'll post this here as well just so people are aware of why my activity or level of effort might drop in this game:
Quin wrote:I'm getting one of my wisdom teeth out tomorrow. Originally I was supposed to get both of my bottom teeth out way back when I got the first one out, but I had some issues getting scans done so the dentist postponed getting one of them. So now I get to go through recovery a second time :omg:
My painkillers make me drowsy and between that and the expected repeat of the lack of sleep and pain I went through last time, I probably won't be incredibly motivated for a while :grin:
oh dude that sucks. I got all 4 of mine taken out a bit ago, and that was a pain in the ass (mouth). I got dry sockets on the bottoms and had to pack gloves or some shit into them every day to stop the bleeding and pain. Oh god the pain
We need to talk about sig.
by Tangrowth
Mon Nov 21, 2016 12:49 am
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Monkey Island [ENDGAME]
Replies: 2181
Views: 53551

Re: Monkey Island [DAY 2]

Epignosis wrote:Listen.

Black Rock has two posts. That's it. If she's good, she isn't doing anything to find Mafia. If she's bad, bingo.

Couple that with the knowledge that lots of people missed Night 1 and only one person died, and again BINGO.

Stop being cute.
You could say this (bolded/underlined) about other players though. I'm not inspired.
by Tangrowth
Mon Nov 21, 2016 12:48 am
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Monkey Island [ENDGAME]
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Views: 53551

Re: Monkey Island [NIGHT 1]

nijuukyugou wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:
nijuukyugou wrote:
Long Con wrote:On the other hand, rainbow lists can paint a target on the heads of those who are deemed most Civ.
This is why I hate rainbow lists. On the other hand, I do use them to determine someone's alignment based on how they rate me. Self-centered, perhaps, but it's been working decently well. Mostly hate for rainbows, though.

I think that's all I have for now. Happy to address whatever, or discuss whatever. I feel like a normal human again, both in workload and health :beer:
MovingPictures07 wrote:RIP Golden. :rip:

Seriously, who the hell would kill Golden in his comeback game? Heartless bastards, that's who.

I haven't caught up, and still won't until I've finished all my preparations for Parks and Recreation Mafia hosting. Sorry. I should be around at some point today though and I'll be ISOing you folks. So be prepared. :slick:
So a page full of MP posts. So, normal mafia.
Blooper, can you elaborate on this bolded/underlined bit?
There is a pattern I've noticed about how I am rated by certain players on rainbow lists. I shall elaborate no further for fear of giving away my super secret awesome baddie senses :shifty:
That's fair, just was curious.
by Tangrowth
Mon Nov 21, 2016 12:22 am
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Monkey Island [ENDGAME]
Replies: 2181
Views: 53551

Re: Monkey Island [DAY 2]

I'm getting real tired. I'll finish by taking a look at Wilgy, then catching up / responding to any of these last few posts I haven't read yet, then it's bedtime. Will be back tomorrow to hopefully finish the ISOs before end of Day 2.
by Tangrowth
Mon Nov 21, 2016 12:17 am
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Monkey Island [ENDGAME]
Replies: 2181
Views: 53551

Re: Monkey Island [DAY 2]

ISO of DFaraday

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Day 0
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DFaraday wrote:
I still think this is the best check in post ever. Null with respect to alignment though.

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Day 1 - Night 1
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DFaraday wrote:Llama:

The role post says the civvies only need Lechuck, Bob, and the Cannibals dead to win. Does that mean the game will end if the other two baddies are still alive?

Also, the civvies need the cannibals dead, but the cannibals can win even if Herman Toothrot and Head of the Navigator are alive. Does this mean that the game will end if any cannibals are alive and only Herman and Head are remaining for the civvies?
Game-related questions to the host. Null.
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DFaraday wrote:I'm sorry I missed the vote. The last day of work before break was hectic. Will catch up later today. I'm voting to learn more because more information is likely a good thing.
There really isn't anything here. This is less than ideal because DFaraday could have at least thrown out thoughts about someone, but he chose not to.

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DFaraday's post history is a whole bunch of null, which isn't particularly out of meta particularly given it is still early in the game, but the lack of any reads whatsoever leaves slight mafia as the only possible conclusion for my read.
by Tangrowth
Mon Nov 21, 2016 12:10 am
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Monkey Island [ENDGAME]
Replies: 2181
Views: 53551

Re: Monkey Island [DAY 2]

ISO of Boomslang

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Day 1
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Boomslang wrote:Today has been very quiet so far... Not much to go on other than Vomps asking for volunteers. Which is asking people to do the civs' work for them, but in Day 1, I suppose it's just an opening gambit.
Nacho (I believe) made a good point about this post in that if Boomslang thought it was too quiet he could have instead tried to generate content, but I don't think this post is mafia indicative nonetheless. I'd say null. I don't see any compelling reason to view this post in a positive or negative light.
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Boomslang wrote:
Quin wrote:I self-voted for the sake of figuring out whether they're changeable or not. Votes are not changeable.
It seems like there's some disagreement over whether this is a good or bad move. I find it rash; why vote solely for that purpose when there's still over 24 hours of daytime to go? Surely someone else would vote for suspicion reasons in that time, then report as to whether that vote was changeable. My gut says this is a convenient way for Quin to get out of voting for anyone else Day 1, and thus drawing early aggro.

Linki w/ Nacho: See, I take the opposite read here. A self-vote just to self-vote might fit your justification, but Quin's rationale isn't logical to me.
Linki w/MP: What's up is I'm trying to post :P Yeah, the Quin thing is a bit WIFOMy, but I think the explanation pushes it more toward a baddie read.
Linki w/Snow Dog: AHHHH LET ME POST
I like this post. Boomslang drops his opinion in the thread regarding the Quin d1 self-vote and provides an understandable perspective for his mafia read.
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Boomslang wrote:
Nachomamma8 wrote:Town is a word that's interchangeable with civilian, apologies for failing my vocabulary test there.

I think that my train of thought is pretty weird - there's no reason for Quin to expect anyone like me to exist of have that train of thought, is there? I find voting to find the answer to whether votes are changeable or not is completely reasonable; do you disagree?
Nacho, you're defending this a lot more than I think it warrants. And you're conflating voting to find the answer with self-voting to find the answer. The former would be a side benefit of an early vote aiming to build momentum against a suspect; the latter is throwing away the power of the vote, possibly with less than honest intentions, to find the answer.
Nachomamma8 wrote:It was a rash move, but I don't really think that rash is equivalent to "more likely to come from a baddie".
I think that asking someone to wait until they have real suspicion in order to figure out votes are changeable or not is pretty unreasonable.
Why do you think that's unreasonable? If you have real suspicion of someone, it shouldn't matter if votes are changeable. You would gain that knowledge without sacrificing the efficacy of your vote.
I like this post too. Here Boomslang continues defending his interpretation of Quin's behavior against Nacho's opposing interpretation all the while laying out his specific perspective for why he interprets Quin's behavior as mafia-indicative instead of town.
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Boomslang wrote:I find myself agreeing with Nacho's reasoning on Motel Room. Of the three people I called out for not contributing, sig responded with a beefy little post, zebra has been completely quiet, and Motel Room had a chance to contribute after the drunken escapades but didn't. Especially suspicious given Motel's comparatively early Day 0 check-in, which suggests some eagerness to get involved in the game. I'm comfortable with a vote there if nothing else changes.
This post mirrors much of the feeling I felt when I went to cast my vote for motel room versus Blooper on d1, so I can easily see a genuine perspective. Conversely, there is potential for a mafia Boomslang abandoning his Quin read to join a motel room vote based on the case of someone else, so this could be concerning.
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Boomslang wrote:Well, I've got to get to work. I think MP is trying to make Epi's observation something it's not, but I know MP is prone to that sort of analysis and thus it doesn't ping very bad for me. Voting motel room for the aforementioned reasons; to MM, it's because he signaled engagement with the early check in, seems to have artificially boosted his post count when drunk, and then ducked out when asked to provide some content.
Here is his vote for motel room. Similar to previous content, nothing new really. My commentary on the prior post applies here as well.

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Day 2
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Boomslang wrote:Didn't post during the night phase because weekend, but RIP Golden. I tend to agree with Epi's line of reasoning about culling inactives, having just been part of the Three Kingdoms debacle. I think sig is way off-base with the following thought:
sig wrote:I think its just as likely one of the roles stopped the second night kill.
There are only three protectors, and one of them would need to successfully target a kill sender with only a single day of gameplay information. If there were eight missing PMs, that's a lot more possibilities for missed kills.
I don't find any alignment indicative content here, but highlighted it to show Boomslang's thoughts re: the missed n1 kill.
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Boomslang wrote:Just realized that eight PMs figure was from Epi and not confirmed for this game. Disregard, but I still think the odds of a baddie being hidden among the inactives are pretty good.

Looking at Golden's content... I don't see any particular reason baddies would see him as a threat. The LC defense is, as sig pointed out, the most notable move, but there's also some positive interaction with Nacho, some suspicion of sig, some pushing of Zebra... I guess what interests me most is that post about Zebra, who chose not to post in real words until today. The timing of Golden's death, followed by Zebra's posting, is very interesting.
Further NKA. I don't like the use of the word "interesting" at the end though. Vague. Perhaps Boomslang can elaborate on this thought as to its contribution.
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Boomslang wrote:
Epignosis wrote:I voted for Black Rock.

Who opposes her lynch, and why do you oppose it?
I don't oppose a Black Rock lynch, but I think we have a little more time to hunt before committing to a target. Reading over other people, I think there's a case to be made against Wilgy. Starting out with the bold not-checking-my-role gambit, then devolving almost immediately into fluff. He hasn't had a single post of substance all game, other than a "gut read" of MP as bad and claiming to "frown upon those that miss the vote" despite missing it himself. That continual jokey language of helping townies in "their" plight also seems too cute. I'd really like to see something solid out of him, and soon.
I like this post. Boomslang brings Wilgy back into the conversation for d2 suspects.

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Boomslang is still solidly slight town. He could be moderate town potential but I need more town spark before making that declaration (yes, I am very hesitant to assign moderate and strong reads at this early stage), and I am not sure how to interpret his d1 vote.
by Tangrowth
Sun Nov 20, 2016 11:46 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Monkey Island [ENDGAME]
Replies: 2181
Views: 53551

Re: Monkey Island [DAY 2]

Epignosis wrote:I voted for Black Rock.

Who opposes her lynch, and why do you oppose it?
I'm not particularly opposed, but I already have one other player I'd rather vote for (sig), and there is still plenty of time left in Day 2 and plenty of players to ISO. So I likely won't be joining you, but we'll see.

What do you think of sig?
by Tangrowth
Sun Nov 20, 2016 11:44 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Monkey Island [ENDGAME]
Replies: 2181
Views: 53551

Re: Monkey Island [DAY 2]

ISO of Black Rock

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Day 1
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Black Rock wrote:I'm here and so happy this is game is running at a slower pace. I'm just jump stating my mafia brain. Me and the LC are laying down some floor tonight so I will likely do more tomorrow. I'm awkwardly checking in on my phone. The only thing I saw on my quick catch up is that I disagree with the suspicion surrounding MP and LC. I find it more convenient than well thought out. That is all for now.
BR's first post of the game expresses disagreement of the suspicion surrounding LC and me. I do like that she specifically provides reasoning ("convenient"), even if it is brief.

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Day 2
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Black Rock wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:MP's reactions this night make me think he is civ. Otherwise I don't understand his frustration and anger.

His reactions make him neutral to me, since I've seen him react in such ways civ or bad.

I'm going to make this vote. I just have no idea where it will be, but the day is young. The computer will be moving up from the basement soon and that will make mafiaing easier.
BR notes that my emotional reaction is null. That is all.

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This is a tough one since BR only has two posts. I don't see any compelling reason to want to lynch her, but I don't see any reason to town read her either. Slight mafia, I guess.
by Tangrowth
Sun Nov 20, 2016 11:36 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Monkey Island [ENDGAME]
Replies: 2181
Views: 53551

Re: Monkey Island [DAY 2]

ISO of a2thezebra

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Days 0-1

Nothing. Only emoticon posts.

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Day 2
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a2thezebra wrote::ponder: :eye: :llama: :feb: :mafia: :)
More emoticons.
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a2thezebra wrote:I want to lynch Quin.

That's right suckers I can talk.
zebra's first emoticon-free post of the game expresses an unsubstantiated desire to lynch Quin. I don't know what to do with this.
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a2thezebra wrote:But I already voted for Snow Dog who is also bad so #YOLO :cloud9:
Similar unsubstantiated desire to lynch Snow Dog with an accompanying vote.
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a2thezebra wrote::cloud9: :cloud9: :cloud9: :cloud9: :cloud9: :cloud9: :cloud9: :cloud9: :cloud9: :cloud9: :haha: :ninja:
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a2thezebra wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
a2thezebra wrote:I want to lynch Quin.

That's right suckers I can talk.
I never thought otherwise.
Your OMGUS historical revisionism game is on point! :clap:
I don't understand this post's existence.
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a2thezebra wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
a2thezebra wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
a2thezebra wrote:I want to lynch Quin.

That's right suckers I can talk.
I never thought otherwise.
Your OMGUS historical revisionism game is on point! :clap:
I never once posted an opinion on the matter.
woosh
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a2thezebra wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:Just looked up OMGUS on Google and I can say that it is irrelevant to my thoughts on your supposed not being able to write. Vote for me every day as far as I'm concerned.

:yay:
Or these.
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a2thezebra wrote:
Long Con wrote: So Zebra, if you could talk all along, then why were you not?
#YOLO
Long Con wrote:Was that a method of getting through day 1 without attarcting much attention?
No, I want all the attention.
Long Con wrote:I wonder if you would have stopped fooling around sooner if someone other than motel room or MP had been on the chopping block?
Who are they?
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a2thezebra wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:ignore you for now.
:eye:
...
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a2thezebra wrote:Does your gut still tell you what it was telling you before, LC?
MovingPictures07 wrote: Seriously, who the hell would kill Golden in his comeback game? Heartless bastards, that's who.
I already asked zebra to elaborate on this, because I don't know what she was implying.
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a2thezebra wrote:Black Rock and Epi are civ
Two presumably gut-based town reads with no substantiation.

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Argh. I don't know what to do with any of this. I happen to know zebra is busy right now RL, but it'd be nice, even imperative, for zebra to come in here and elaborate upon her town and mafia reads. Based on a meta perspective, zebra seems to either play aggressive supertown or gut-based chaos, and this fits the latter category. Unfortunately I do not think it is alignment indicative.

Given I'm not entertaining null reads as a possibility, I guess she is slight mafia. I'm not inspired to give her a town read for any reason.
by Tangrowth
Sun Nov 20, 2016 11:27 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Monkey Island [ENDGAME]
Replies: 2181
Views: 53551

Re: Monkey Island [DAY 2]

I'm going to do other ISOs now alphabetically, and we'll see how many players I can get through before bedtime.
by Tangrowth
Sun Nov 20, 2016 11:23 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Monkey Island [ENDGAME]
Replies: 2181
Views: 53551

Re: Monkey Island [DAY 2]

ISO of sig

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Day 1
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sig wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:Hey Mac, it's clear we are both civilian this game so let's team up. :nicenod:
Seems a little early MP. :ponder:

Also up to page six and nobody has mentioned me yet. I'm insulted. :shifty:
This is an admittedly minor grievance, but I don't have anything to like in this post. The vague sentiment that my tongue-in-cheek town team-up comment "seems early" shifts attention in my direction but in a noncommittal and unspecific fashion.
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sig wrote:
Boomslang wrote:Also, obligatory finger-pointing at a2zebra, sig, and motel room for either not posting in Day 1 or posting nothing of substance. Sig, I see you lurking. What's on your mind?
That math test wasn't to hard
Roommate is dumb
Shameless is a good show y'all should watch it
Zebra has been quiet (hello pot meet kettle lets both be black together)
Drunken Motel seemed a little weird
I dislike Mac clearing Motel for being drunk, very pingy?

No vibes from LC either way I'll ISO him later
Nacho is posting alot looking good, but I think we should watch him a mafia member becoming a town leader can be devastating
I dislike the vote for Wilgy, this is his normal behavior
Epi is being very fluffy, which is normal but less content then usually.
and I remember very little from MP's posts which is odd since I know he is posting alot, I just can't recall them.

So a few minor pings for MP, Mac, and Motel.

Boom and Quin both look okay so far. \

And I'm off to bed, but I'll be on tomorrow with a few more in depth reads (hopefully) and around to cast my vote. I plan to look over LC, MP, and Mac before voting.
Here's sig's first meaty post of the game (fourth overall). He concludes that he had minor pings for three players, so I highlighted what he wrote about those players to compare/contrast with what he wrote about the rest.

Although sig's thoughts on me and Mac were a bit vague, and I think those thoughts could be easily fabricated, I can see a potential link between his initial thoughts expressed here and concluding that they were minor pings. I'm having trouble reconciling sig's thoughts on motel room with a minor ping, however, since "seemed a little weird" is an incredibly vague version of a ping/accusation. This is potentially bothersome if it came at a point in the thread in which motel room was already receiving negative attention (note to self / others: investigate this).

Also, sig, where's that LC ISO? :grin:
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sig wrote:
Golden wrote:
sig wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:Hey Mac, it's clear we are both civilian this game so let's team up. :nicenod:
Seems a little early MP. :ponder:

Also up to page six and nobody has mentioned me yet. I'm insulted. :shifty:
I was just about to mention you. I have to vote before I go to bed, and your absence might get my vote unless you give me some reason not to. I know you are busy, but i want your siggish thoughts.
I gave out some, on the more siggish line of thinking I can't shake my ping of Nacho and Mac, my nacho ping is purely a gut read, for Mac I dislike how he cleared motel for being drunk and how he was prodding discussion early on, without giving his own thoughts.
Scotty wrote:I mistakenly thought that BWT was the only one that hadn't posted, and from a cursory glance it looks like sig and zebra haven't even checked in the thread yet.

And dog has even been around apparently, without posting. :ponder:
Dog did check in.
There is an unexplained discrepancy in sig's posts back to back, which is a bad look. In sig's previous post, he said "Nacho is posting alot looking good, but I think we should watch him a mafia member becoming a town leader can be devastating", but here he says he can't shake his ping of Nacho. The ping he can't shake is also completely vague (gut read). This needs to be explained by sig ASAP, because there is nothing in either post that indicates a change of mind, which implies that sig lost track of whether he found Nacho a town or mafia read. I don't see how a member of the town genuinely could lose track of that. This is troublesome.
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sig wrote:
MacDougall wrote:
sig wrote:
Boomslang wrote:Also, obligatory finger-pointing at a2zebra, sig, and motel room for either not posting in Day 1 or posting nothing of substance. Sig, I see you lurking. What's on your mind?
That math test wasn't to hard
Roommate is dumb
Shameless is a good show y'all should watch it
Zebra has been quiet (hello pot meet kettle lets both be black together)
Drunken Motel seemed a little weird
I dislike Mac clearing Motel for being drunk, very pingy?
No vibes from LC either way I'll ISO him later
Nacho is posting alot looking good, but I think we should watch him a mafia member becoming a town leader can be devastating
I dislike the vote for Wilgy, this is his normal behavior
Epi is being very fluffy, which is normal but less content then usually.
and I remember very little from MP's posts which is odd since I know he is posting alot, I just can't recall them.

So a few minor pings for MP, Mac, and Motel.

Boom and Quin both look okay so far. \

And I'm off to bed, but I'll be on tomorrow with a few more in depth reads (hopefully) and around to cast my vote. I plan to look over LC, MP, and Mac before voting.
Sig is town guys.
Why am I town?
Golden wrote:I feel more clueless than usual for day one - I don't have any active bad reads. My vote is going to a player who I don't think has yet matched my perception of their civ meta.

I feel a bit like a dick doing that because I know how frustrating I find it when I get lynched on day one merely for not posting 150 times! But I have nothing better to go on.

That means, for me, motel room, sig or ninja. I normally get an early town vibe from MR that is lacking here. Sig is waaay too quiet for sig. Ninja's check in was probably before any content developed, but she is adept at using her limited posts well and that's what I'm waiting to see.

I'd wait for the morning if I could, but I can't. So, ninja it is.
Sig has been busy and he kinda forgot about the game. :shrug:

I find it odd you plan to vote for me for being quieter then usually seems like a good scapegoat vote. :ponder:


MovingPictures07 wrote:sig, I've provided more reads on players than almost everyone else in the game. If you can't remember my content that's on you, not me.
You've provided reads yes, but you've done nothing that sticks out one way or another if that makes sense. So your posting and in my mind I know that you're being active but, from my read over you don't seem to be being helpful.

I find that to be very odd.
I don't like sig's mention of "odd" twice in this post, because I feel like "odd" and "weird" and similar synonyms are easy ways for mafia members to manufacture suspicion without much substance. Furthermore, I find it highly dubious that odd behavior translates to suspicious behavior, as townies act oddly or irrationally often.
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sig wrote:
DrWilgy wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:Let's go to Melee Island, where we can play a more awesome video game called Super Smash Bros. Melee. :srsnod:
Only if you let me wave shine you into upsmash.

Hello everyone. My name is DrWilgy and I am most definitely a smash player.

I have not checked my role nor do I plan to. I will, however, assist townies in their plight.
Okay so this seems to be the post that is getting Wilgy votes, an early day 0 jokey post? I don't like the votes on him at all, it seems to be an easy place to throw your day 1 vote and not take responsibility for faulty logic if he flips civ. Also as someone who has been lynched for day 0 jokey posts I'm naturally agaisnt lynching based off of them.

Epi is acting like Epi, which means nothing alignment wise. I do like his observation about MP though.

Mac hasn't contributed much yet, mainly fluff or one liners. I would like him to explain his town read of me better.

Not enough from LC to have an opinion of him one way or another.

linki: Okay I see your point on LC, I'm not sure if I agree or not though.
Here sig doubles down on a defense of DrWilgy (in a previous post he said that Wilgy's behavior is 'normal meta'). I like his thoughts on Wilgy here, as he sticks his neck out for him, but I'm not sure how alignment indicative it really is. The rest of the post is full of noncommittal statements indicating no thoughts about whether sig finds anything alignment indicative of those players' behavior. Overall I don't feel much of anything about this post.
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sig wrote:
motel room wrote:
Nachomamma8 wrote:
motel room wrote:
Vompatti wrote:I wouldn't mind wine in front of me if you know what I mean.
Don't do it, you wind up with five bottles on the grass and a gash in your hand and a hangover at work today.
what's your read on long con?
who
This is a super weird post by motel room.
:confused2:

Also it is to god damn early to be playing Christmas music, this is what's wrong with our country! Christmas music before Thanksgiving. :srsnod:
Another vague post. Says motel room's post is "super weird", but doesn't elaborate upon it. Slightly bad look.
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sig wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:Hey Mac, it's clear we are both civilian this game so let's team up. :nicenod:
Why?
MovingPictures07 wrote:Sorry, had to fix some dinner.
Did you break dinner before you fixed it? :ponder:

After rereading MP post I still have the same feeling lots of post, but not alot said if that makes sense?

Also he responded very defensively to both mine and Epis posts.

One last thing I find odd he defends himself from Epi's observation by saying he usually roles scum so they shouldn't count........He is basically saying he is more likely to be mafia and still not really rebutting Epi's point. It just seems like a really weird way to defend oneself.

I've gotta head over to class but I'll be back in time to vote.
I'm looking at Blooper, Soneji, MP, and motel right now.

Blooper/Soneji for their votes on Wilgy


linki: Very true re meta, but lynching based around the fact Wilgy is being Wilgy is bad, since his early meta is usually the same regardless of alignment.

Yeah the mall and the starbucks down here have been playing Christmas stuff since the beginning of November, wayyyyy to early.
Here sig elaborates upon his suspicion of me, which I feel is difficult for me to attempt to judge without some sort of bias, so your thoughts would be appreciated. He says he is eyeballing Wilgy voters (Blooper and Soneji) and motel room. I still find it bothersome that sig is continuing to bang the motel room drum. It's especially ironic given sig's subsequent post here:
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sig wrote:This was a very weak reason I'm espacilly eyeing MP and the people who voted for Zebra.

I also find it odd WIlgy missed the vote, if MP does end up being mafia I'd like to look into lynching Wilgy.
where he criticizes me for my "weak" vote after saying he suspects motel room all d1 with next to no reason. I find this incredibly suspicious behavior.

I find it intriguing that sig says if I am mafia, he would like to look into lynching Wilgy, yet he defended Wilgy more than any other player prior to this point. This presents further reason for me to believe that sig is manufacturing his thoughts on players.
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sig wrote:
Epignosis wrote:I'm calling five missing votes for Day 1.
Make that four i voted :keys:


Voted mp, his playstyle is reminding me of the scrimmage and his vote fkr motel is odd as is his defensive behaviour. While I'm okay with a motel lynxh it seems really ooc for mp.
Votes for me based on being out of character yet simultaneously similar to another game (Scrimmage game). Not sure why I didn't find it off previously, but there is a bit of cognitive dissonance there. sig, if you can elaborate how my behavior was simultaneously out of character yet similar to my behavior in another game, that'd be great.
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sig wrote:
Nachomamma8 wrote:Drunk darts have failed.
I will probably catch up when I get home. Sig, why were you bothered by MP's motel room vote?
It seemed to have come out of nowhere and was an easy scapegoat for a day 1 vote, I do believe that day 1 can be the easiest to catch mafia on weak reasoning, so they're more likely to find something dumb, to throw a vote on and that was something you could throw a vote on. Like I said it seems to be a lack of reasoning and not something civ MP would do.

linki: I find the vote missing more odd then the not reading role card, I think he has and is just saying he hasn't
Further alarm bells. He doubles down on criticizing me for my motel room vote when he previously said he suspected motel room and said he'd be okay with it. This is suspicious.
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sig wrote:
Scotty wrote:
sig wrote:This was a very weak reason I'm espacilly eyeing MP and the people who voted for Zebra.

I also find it odd WIlgy missed the vote, if MP does end up being mafia I'd like to look into lynching Wilgy.
Its day 1. What more convincing articles could you have for day 1?

And "the people who voted zebra" are...just me. Can I help you with your eyes?
Snow also voted for Zebra you don't seem to be reading clearly. :eye:

MP didn't mention his vote was self preservation when he did the voting though, that just came up after motel flipped. I'm really being pinged by MP right now.
Pushes suspicion of me further. Quin's post expressing dislike of this content makes an excellent point; sig's post implies that he doesn't care whether I am being genuine in whether my vote was out of self-preservation, only the fact that I didn't state that it was.
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sig wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:
sig wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:sig, I've provided more reads on players than almost everyone else in the game. If you can't remember my content that's on you, not me.
You've provided reads yes, but you've done nothing that sticks out one way or another if that makes sense. So your posting and in my mind I know that you're being active but, from my read over you don't seem to be being helpful.

I find that to be very odd.
How does "very odd" or "helpful" translate to "I believe you have a mafia role card"? I'm missing your link.
If your playing odd or doing strange thing your more likely to be mafia
and town is generally helpful since they want to catch scum. So it translates very nicely.
I commented on this post at the time with basically "No". I feel the same way now. sig's "odd = suspicious" statement here is something I think is absolutely false, and he provides no substantive backing for his assertion.
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sig wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:
Quin wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:sig, I've provided more reads on players than almost everyone else in the game. If you can't remember my content that's on you, not me.
I suspect sig for this. There's another post later on I'll get to eventually, but I could easily interpret this as a bad sig not even reading the thread, hence 'not remembering' a whole 17 (... :sigh: )meaty posts in a row from MP.
I would say that if anyone suspecting me right now is mafia, it's most believable to be sig, but I'm a bit hesitant to pursue that train of thought aggressively for multiple reasons:

1) I have not yet had the opportunity to engage directly with sig and he has not yet seen these recent responses of mine, so perhaps he has not had enough information to come to a more informed assessment of me.

2) sig not thoroughly examining the thread, or even reading it, and then making gut-based interpretations of my behavior is just as compatible with a town sig that increasingly is becoming bothered with aspects of my behavior in the game as it is with a mafia sig that is trying to push me as mislynch because everyone on this site knows that I'm a relatively easy mislynch to push. Do you have reason to believe that it is more compatible with the latter explanation? I haven't seen anything compelling personally.

3) Although I do still firmly believe it is on sig that he does not recall my content, his accusation is still potentially legitimate if he believes I am a mafia member manufacturing my suspicions and trying to flood the thread with posts but my substance in those posts is lacking. Now the point I was raised in my quoted post above was that I was contributing more than nearly everyone else, and while that is likely unarguable, mulling over it I think I missed sig's point and that was that he believes, in comparison to his perception of what he believes town MP would be posting, my content is lacking. I did not adequately address that concern.

sig, let me know if you want to engage on any of this.
Yeah MP hit the nail on the head, also it isn't that he isn't posting content it's that he is posting content in an MP mafia sort of way. Maybe i'm just paranoid after seeing him destroy town in Scrimmage, since in that game he flooded the thread amd it was meaty, but it was lacking content since he wasn't attempting to actually solve the game, but distract people. That is what I was seeing from day 1 MP, so of course I sounded off and pointed it out.

I still have a mafia lean on MP, but less so after his latest batch of posts.
In response to Quin wanting sig's head, I expressed that I believed sig is the most likely accuser of me to be bad, but I stated three clear hesitations in heavily pursuing that train of thought. Perhaps I shouldn't have done that quite yet, since here sig comes back into the thread and basically says "yeah, what MP said". It could be that I did indeed hit the nail on the head, but this is also an easy way for a mafia sig to backpedal a bit and not have to provide his own response to Quin.

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Day 2
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sig wrote:Now i know post death ISO aren't common for night kills on TS, but I decided to do one anyway espacilly since I believe they give valuable insight on a characters death, so I'm going over Golden right now to see what I see.

Besides that I'm at a lose on who could be mafia. LC, Epi, and MP all look good right now. I'm a little iffy of Snowdog for his vote on zebra, but that only comes into play if MP is mafia.

I do think our mafia members either didn't vote or voted on a non wagon avoiding both major lynches. I do however, believe night kills where submitted and I don't think we should just start lynching lurkers on the off chance an entire team forgot/wasn't around to submit a kill.
sig states that LC, Epi, and I all are town reads. sig's gradual change from strongly suspecting me to less so during n1 to not at all now, with no associated reasoning, again would be an easy thing to fake. I also find his thoughts on me tend to coincide opportunistically with sentiment currently in the thread, which lends more credence to the theory that he is manufacturing them.

What is further problematic is that sig states here that he believes the mafia didn't vote at all or voted on a non wagon. This is a 180 from everything he was blasting me and Wilgy voters for the prior day, with no apparent reason for the change. Suspicious as hell.
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sig wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
sig wrote:I do think our mafia members either didn't vote or voted on a non wagon avoiding both major lynches. I do however, believe night kills where submitted and I don't think we should just start lynching lurkers on the off chance an entire team forgot/wasn't around to submit a kill.
On what basis do you believe both kills were submitted?

It is rather rare for kills not to be submitted isn't it? It also requires very little effort to submit a kill. If only one player could do it I might be able to see that argument, however it is very unlikely a whole team was so inactive that they didn't send in a kill.

Okay Quin I was wondering if you had any other reasoning
Here are sig's thoughts on the lack of n1 kill. He argues against the inactive argument. I find this null, but thought it was worth highlighting in here.
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sig wrote:
Golden wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:
Nachomamma8 wrote:And, while I'm at it: MovingPictures, would you mind elaborating on your LC town lean a little more? I understand there might not be much behind it, but what do you think of him scumreading DrWigly early? It seems to me that DrWigly doing something weird (like not reading his role PM) isn't really unexpected and I don't actually think there's any scum motivation behind not reading your role PM; why don't you think that he's pushing on an easy target early?

If I was able to vote and change my vote, I'd be voting Long Con for those reasons; MovingPictures is a civilian read at this point.
Yeah, there really isn't much behind it, and LC is historically difficult for me to read. LC's post history has seemed genuine to me; I like the way he handled Mac's "you're trying too hard" with "try harder", he handled the accusation well.

You make a good argument as to why Wilgy's not worth scum reading though; that's why I didn't find it worth any read personally. I've been wrong about LC before for what seemed like manufactured or opportunistic early suspicions though.
I'm historically pretty damn good at reading LC - defending him against bad accusations, attacking him when no one else will listen..

For right now I think he is town. His role analysis shines more when he is town, I think. I can't put it into exact words, but there is a depth to it that indicates genuine thought an desire to get the answers.
I found this bit on LC interesting will get back to it later.
Golden wrote:I feel more clueless than usual for day one - I don't have any active bad reads. My vote is going to a player who I don't think has yet matched my perception of their civ meta.

I feel a bit like a dick doing that because I know how frustrating I find it when I get lynched on day one merely for not posting 150 times! But I have nothing better to go on.

That means, for me, motel room, sig or ninja. I normally get an early town vibe from MR that is lacking here. Sig is waaay too quiet for sig. Ninja's check in was probably before any content developed, but she is adept at using her limited posts well and that's what I'm waiting to see.

I'd wait for the morning if I could, but I can't. So, ninja it is.
Mentions me and Ninja, for being to quiet he did end up voting for Ninja but he didn't really push on her.

Golden wrote:Hey zebra. I see you lurking - although maybe you can only post in smilies right now. I'd like to hear your thoughts on the game so far though.

Also, snow, sorry for not buddying you sooner, but it's nice to meet you. Your name comes up a lot, so I'm looking forward to playing with you.
Talks about zebra worth noting, but again he wasn't really pushing zebra.

Golden wrote:Re my opinion on MP

I have seen him be frustrated at accusations as both alignments.
I've seen him buddy people as both alignments.

I can recall specific instances of him burning me with each of them in the past when bad, but it's easy to let 'you have done that to me when bad before' sway your read to 'bad' when it's actually 'null'.

I also think that MP has been incredibly regularly on the table for lynching on day one/two recently, and I've seen a marked uptick in him getting frustrated at the accusations early rather than maintaining a rational calm. Again, I see this as null, because I've seen it as both alignments. And I don't really blame him - I have been through runs in the past where I'm in that spot where no matter what you do, people are immediately inspecting me and declaring me bad, and it can get very frustrating. Sometimes you just want a run of not being on defense to get your hunting straight.

All of those null things straight - here are things I've seen as genuinely potentially alignment-indicative from MP

1) His happiness to have the game going at a slow pace - town-aligned. I think he would be much more focussed on his meta upkeep if he was bad, but in this game I did not get the sense he cared about maintaining any appearance. This is also a major town tell with me, and I believe it's a pretty reliable one.

2) His focus on nacho in the early game - feeling out and interacting with a new player - town-aligned. I felt like MP was genuinely trying to get a good sense of who he is and what he is bringing to the table.

3) His inability to see epi's case as holding merit - slightly bad-leaning. I can understand the frustration, but I have more difficulty understanding why MP wouldn't recognise a legitimate meta case and respond to it as such (rather than a nonsense case). It may be based on a predisposition to assume epi's cases are not intended to hold merit but are just intended to see what responses come, which is in fact the tack MP took. It's also something epi is well known for doing. But that makes it a very easy 'rote' defense to any epi case.

Overall, I still see MP as town-aligned, and in particular point (1) is very persuasive to me.

A big post defending MP which I find interesting.

All in all we see very little from Golden he mentions that he can read LC well and sees him as being townie and that he has MP as town-aligned. Now knowing that many TS people won't put much merit in why people are killed and having a town aligned read for day 1 isn't that big a deal I think we can discount that MP/LC killed him to look better.

The largest post that stands out to me is what Golden said about LC, however it really doesn't give me a better or worse opinion of LC. If we believe this post had something to do with Golden's death we can glen two things.

LC is mafia and killed Golden before he could get a solid read on him
or
Mafia killed Golden in an attempt to set up LC

Two seems very unlikely for reasons stated above, so I'm leaning to one if this line of thinking is correct. I could also see LC killing Golden day 1. This is nowhere near enough evidence to lynch LC, but i do think it is something to keep in mind.
Besides that I don't see much from my ISO of Golden he was having a slow start and just kind off prodding people. The only other thought that comes to mind is Golden was killed since he was defending MP and the mafia is hoping we lynch MP, but all these theories have no real basis in reality and I wouldn't bet on any of them.
I initially felt good about sig's contribution here with an night kill analysis / ISO of Golden. I feel a bit less inspired now, since I don't think there is any reason to town or mafia read sig for this contribution, seeing as it could have been easily made with a mindset from either alignment. This is still the best post he's made so far though. It at least has the semblance of appearing as though he wants to solve the game, whether that's true or not.
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sig wrote:
Long Con wrote:
sig wrote:I could also see LC killing Golden day 1.
Not so likely. I'd kill plenty before killing Golden.

I kind of skimmed your big post, but it looked like Golden said he's good at reading me, so I killed him. Sorry, my time is short right now, I'll try again in a bit.
It's an avenue I said could be present, but it would be more likely that you killed him before he started to read you as bad and not because he was reading you as good.

I don't put much credence in my ISO of Golden though.
It is intriguing that sig is really downplaying his NKA ISO post. I'm not sure what to make of that.
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sig wrote:
Scotty wrote:
sig wrote:
Long Con wrote:
sig wrote:I could also see LC killing Golden day 1.
Not so likely. I'd kill plenty before killing Golden.

I kind of skimmed your big post, but it looked like Golden said he's good at reading me, so I killed him. Sorry, my time is short right now, I'll try again in a bit.
It's an avenue I said could be present, but it would be more likely that you killed him before he started to read you as bad and not because he was reading you as good.

I don't put much credence in my ISO of Golden though.
Do you usually put credence in NK analyses? Or is it just for Golden?
I would say it varies on each situation.
I'm less confident in this NKA since Golden had few posts and nothing that really stuck out for why he would be NK'd, plus I usually find D1 night kills to be more random, since people's thoughts are in general more random. Furthermore Golden is a good player so the mafia could just have just killed him since he is a stronger player. :shrug:

Overall alot of WIFOM is put into NKA and it's sometimes very helpful, but could also mean absolutely nothing. Which is why I'm not really pursuing anyone because of Golden's ISO there just wasn't really enough information present.
A continuation of the prior post, sig is waffly on whether his NKA ISO was helpful or meaningless. That's great and all, but at this point if he really cared about solving the game I think he'd start investigating some players.

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In conclusion, I would place sig in the orange (moderate mafia) section of my rainbow. There is plenty of reason to doubt whether sig's contributions are genuine, though I wouldn't say this is a slam dunk case by any means.

Please throw your thoughts at me regarding this analysis, especially since sig is typical mislynch fodder, and some of this was admittedly difficult for me to analyze 'objectively' given I was sig's biggest target of suspicion during d1. Where do you agree? Disagree? How are you reading sig?
by Tangrowth
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Re: Monkey Island [DAY 2]

Working on the sig ISO. Spoiler alert: this guy looks bad. Real bad.
by Tangrowth
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Re: Monkey Island [DAY 2]

Quin wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:
Quin wrote:I would vote for either sig or Epignosis today, but I'm still interested in hearing more from sig so I'll abstain from actually voting for a bit longer.
Let's talk. Initially I'm feeling kinda better about sig based on his recent contributions, but again, I need to dig through his content in detail. (gonna start that now)

Why those two? Any thoughts on the others?
My reason for suspecting sig kind of lines up with what I've discussed with you, and my Epi suspicion rests on his approach to the 'let's cull the inactives' mindset.

motel room came back in strong, and I already had a civ tone-read on Eloh, so I could shade him as a light green read. Same to you - but I'm perhaps slightly hesitant because of your supposed record involving emotional appeals/outbursts. Nacho is my strongest town read. I like that he's come out swinging from the get-go even though he's in an unfamiliar environment.
Do you not have any thoughts on sig's d2 behavior?

I agree with motel room; he'd get a slight green once I update my rainbow.

Speaking of which, want to compare rainbows at some point? :D I won't be updating mine until I do these ISOs though.
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Re: Monkey Island [DAY 2]

Quin wrote:I would vote for either sig or Epignosis today, but I'm still interested in hearing more from sig so I'll abstain from actually voting for a bit longer.
Let's talk. Initially I'm feeling kinda better about sig based on his recent contributions, but again, I need to dig through his content in detail. (gonna start that now)

Why those two? Any thoughts on the others?
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Re: Monkey Island [DAY 2]

motel room wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:
motel room wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:
motel room wrote:
Scotty wrote:Again the entire premise of lurking low posters only works if there's ample evidence. I'm not sure it's the best course of action, but it is something. I happen to be on Epi's side based on that fact that there were missing actions. I don't know what constitutes "lots" but it's a pretty good assumption.
If a role were blocked by the blocker, I'm not even sure how that info would be leaked since we can't infodump.

Or as I already mentioned, both teams targeted golden.

Those are the 3 options I see here... I'm just not sure what to do with that. Might as well be playing lawn darts with the low posters, which I'm not sure is worth gambling with yet. Im keeping my eyes on Black rock, Boomslang and Soneji as suspects, but I'm not even close to pulling the trigger on any of them yet
This post feels like a presentation and it's got that here's a thing, but then here's the opposite of that thing structure that they do in cold reading.
Do you gain any potential alignment read from Scotty as a result?

And welcome back! :D
From his follow up chats, I'm into the guy.
Wait, sorry, I'm tired and dense right now. What do you mean by "into the guy"?
Means I like him, putting him as town for now.
Got it, thanks. My bad. :p
by Tangrowth
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Re: Monkey Island [DAY 2]

Quin wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:
Quin wrote:I'll post this here as well just so people are aware of why my activity or level of effort might drop in this game:
Quin wrote:I'm getting one of my wisdom teeth out tomorrow. Originally I was supposed to get both of my bottom teeth out way back when I got the first one out, but I had some issues getting scans done so the dentist postponed getting one of them. So now I get to go through recovery a second time :omg:
My painkillers make me drowsy and between that and the expected repeat of the lack of sleep and pain I went through last time, I probably won't be incredibly motivated for a while :grin:
Have fun with that! The first three days or so when I got mine out were awful, the rest of the first week was improved but still kinda meh, and after that was much better.
I didn't have much luck the first time :P I couldn't open my mouth for about a week and a half, then it started to get a lot better, then it suddenly got infected and I was out for another week. :disappoint:
Oh man, that's fucking awful. Hope it goes much better this time.
by Tangrowth
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motel room wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:
motel room wrote:
Scotty wrote:Again the entire premise of lurking low posters only works if there's ample evidence. I'm not sure it's the best course of action, but it is something. I happen to be on Epi's side based on that fact that there were missing actions. I don't know what constitutes "lots" but it's a pretty good assumption.
If a role were blocked by the blocker, I'm not even sure how that info would be leaked since we can't infodump.

Or as I already mentioned, both teams targeted golden.

Those are the 3 options I see here... I'm just not sure what to do with that. Might as well be playing lawn darts with the low posters, which I'm not sure is worth gambling with yet. Im keeping my eyes on Black rock, Boomslang and Soneji as suspects, but I'm not even close to pulling the trigger on any of them yet
This post feels like a presentation and it's got that here's a thing, but then here's the opposite of that thing structure that they do in cold reading.
Do you gain any potential alignment read from Scotty as a result?

And welcome back! :D
From his follow up chats, I'm into the guy.
Wait, sorry, I'm tired and dense right now. What do you mean by "into the guy"?
by Tangrowth
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Quin wrote:I'll post this here as well just so people are aware of why my activity or level of effort might drop in this game:
Quin wrote:I'm getting one of my wisdom teeth out tomorrow. Originally I was supposed to get both of my bottom teeth out way back when I got the first one out, but I had some issues getting scans done so the dentist postponed getting one of them. So now I get to go through recovery a second time :omg:
My painkillers make me drowsy and between that and the expected repeat of the lack of sleep and pain I went through last time, I probably won't be incredibly motivated for a while :grin:
Have fun with that! The first three days or so when I got mine out were awful, the rest of the first week was improved but still kinda meh, and after that was much better.
by Tangrowth
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I'm tired and my brain is working slowly. ISOs may come slowly. Ugh.

First I'm going to try and ISO sig and express my thoughts there.

But before that, as to why Golden was killed, the speculation is endless. Thanks for performing that NKA ISO analysis, sig. I think any combination of the following reasons seem believable: (1) Golden was town reading me and I nearly died D1 so it's possible that the mafia wanted to eliminate him to capitalize on mislynch potential, (2) Golden hadn't yet made strong stances on anyone other than me or LC (and his thoughts on LC weren't well substantiated) so there's not much to trace back to him, and (3) Golden is a very strong, heavy posting, and proven effective member of the town. I think (3) is the most likely explanation, but who knows.
by Tangrowth
Sun Nov 20, 2016 9:40 pm
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Hey Scotty, got any reads you want to throw at the thread?
by Tangrowth
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Re: Monkey Island [DAY 2]

motel room wrote:Think I'd vote metalmarsh if I had to vote right now
Why?
by Tangrowth
Sun Nov 20, 2016 9:39 pm
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motel room wrote:
Scotty wrote:Again the entire premise of lurking low posters only works if there's ample evidence. I'm not sure it's the best course of action, but it is something. I happen to be on Epi's side based on that fact that there were missing actions. I don't know what constitutes "lots" but it's a pretty good assumption.
If a role were blocked by the blocker, I'm not even sure how that info would be leaked since we can't infodump.

Or as I already mentioned, both teams targeted golden.

Those are the 3 options I see here... I'm just not sure what to do with that. Might as well be playing lawn darts with the low posters, which I'm not sure is worth gambling with yet. Im keeping my eyes on Black rock, Boomslang and Soneji as suspects, but I'm not even close to pulling the trigger on any of them yet
This post feels like a presentation and it's got that here's a thing, but then here's the opposite of that thing structure that they do in cold reading.
Do you gain any potential alignment read from Scotty as a result?

And welcome back! :D
by Tangrowth
Sun Nov 20, 2016 9:30 pm
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Scotty wrote:So I looked over those that didn't post or barely posted last night to try and gauge inactivity, based on Epi's hunch.

These people did not post at all during the night phase:
-Black Rock
-Boomslang
-Soneji

These people had minimal to say:
-Nacho posted right after the D1 lynch, and since then, nada
-Elo posted once to announce she needed a replacement
-Mac posted once Friday night to debase zebra
-nijuu posted late Friday night to be back later
-DF posted once but right before end of night. (So he probably wouldn't have missed a kill)

There's quite a few of compatibilities..the only one I listed I would rule out is DF just for proximity to the end of noght
Thanks for this, Scotty. Maybe I'll ISO those folks first specifically.
by Tangrowth
Sun Nov 20, 2016 9:27 pm
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Re: Monkey Island [NIGHT 1]

nijuukyugou wrote:
Long Con wrote:On the other hand, rainbow lists can paint a target on the heads of those who are deemed most Civ.
This is why I hate rainbow lists. On the other hand, I do use them to determine someone's alignment based on how they rate me. Self-centered, perhaps, but it's been working decently well. Mostly hate for rainbows, though.

I think that's all I have for now. Happy to address whatever, or discuss whatever. I feel like a normal human again, both in workload and health :beer:
MovingPictures07 wrote:RIP Golden. :rip:

Seriously, who the hell would kill Golden in his comeback game? Heartless bastards, that's who.

I haven't caught up, and still won't until I've finished all my preparations for Parks and Recreation Mafia hosting. Sorry. I should be around at some point today though and I'll be ISOing you folks. So be prepared. :slick:
So a page full of MP posts. So, normal mafia.
Blooper, can you elaborate on this bolded/underlined bit?
by Tangrowth
Sun Nov 20, 2016 9:26 pm
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Re: Monkey Island [DAY 2]

Metalmarsh89 wrote:// Method for Monkey Island gameplay
while (alive) {
  • if (vompatti == alive) {
    • vote(vompatti);
    } else if (a2thezebra == alive) {
    • vote(a2thezebra);
    } else {
    • vote(self);
    }
}

return;
This is too real for me. Fuck coding. :sigh:
by Tangrowth
Sun Nov 20, 2016 9:25 pm
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Re: Monkey Island [DAY 2]

a2thezebra wrote:Black Rock and Epi are civ
Why?
by Tangrowth
Sun Nov 20, 2016 9:24 pm
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Re: Monkey Island [DAY 2]

a2thezebra wrote:Does your gut still tell you what it was telling you before, LC?
MovingPictures07 wrote: Seriously, who the hell would kill Golden in his comeback game? Heartless bastards, that's who.
What does this mean?
by Tangrowth
Sun Nov 20, 2016 9:21 pm
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Re: Monkey Island [DAY 2]

Epignosis wrote:
Quin wrote:I want to lynch Epignosis.
Voted for Black Rock.

Your turn.
Is this just because you think she's potentially on a team that missed a kill, or did I miss something else as well?
by Tangrowth
Sun Nov 20, 2016 9:10 pm
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Re: Monkey Island [DAY 2]

Metalmarsh89 wrote:It's Day 2 and I'm still here! ;airguitar:

First order of business; Sockface, are you a member mafia?
Nope! Are you? :smoky:

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