The Syndicate

Roxy wrote:Oh me? I was watching Survivor.

So do you think we stand a chance at lynching you?

Not currently.

Not much, Rox, how about you?

Well, that works out. See you later, Russ!

Two missed votes? Huh. Very strange indeed.

Linki with Kate: I'm sorry you're upset, it's not personal. It's just a mafia game.

Kate wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:Oh, I forgot to vote in the poll, didn't I? Let me fix that.

You're hilarious.

Wow, I say something nice to you and go and be an ass. No wonder people don't want to play.

Are you serious? I am just playing the game here.

Besides, I knew I "missed it", I was just messing with you guys.

votes Kate

Oh, I forgot to vote in the poll, didn't I? Let me fix that.

Voting Russ

I finally have some time and no one's around? Bummer.

I'm down for a Russ vote. I can't see ANY possibility where he's not baddie here.

Alright, I need to study and such. See you guys later!

God no.

S~V~S wrote:

I wasn't being entirely serious.

Kate wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:Lol. I thought S~V~S was my arch nemesis.

Not in this game.

Well, I suppose I am flattered!

But I must admit to you.... *whispers* I am not bad. Sorry.

Roxy wrote:Srsly no one is worried about this? Is everyone just going to pretend there is no Black Lodge?? Really??

viewtopic.php?f=20&t=145&p=18491#p18491

I saw it. What are we supposed to do about it?

Lol. I thought S~V~S was my arch nemesis.

Kate wrote:

Roxy wrote:Yay MP thats a brilliant thought except I went hard after Vomps - harder than I went after llama -I even built a case no one commented on until prodded. Thats what I do when I am bad I make cases on teammates and beg people to vote for them.

Right I will say that cannot be Catherine but maybe one of them has a power stealing role.

Looks like I will be wearing a Kate siggy lmao

I LOVE YOU!!!

You don't love me?

Roxy wrote:Yay MP thats a brilliant thought except I went hard after Vomps - harder than I went after llama -I even built a case no one commented on until prodded. Thats what I do when I am bad I make cases on teammates and beg people to vote for them.

Right I will say that cannot be Catherine but maybe one of them has a power stealing role.

Looks like I will be wearing a Kate siggy lmao

Are you trying to tell me Kate is baddie instead of you?

The numbers and everything just don't work out. At all. By all means, this game should be over.

Kate wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:

Kate wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:This means Russ AND Vomps have to be baddie, correct? And two of Mata, S~V~S, and Rox are BOB and the other recruit. I think that means we're seeing Rox, Russ, Vomps, and S~V~S... but then... IDK. Weird. The game should be over.

Oh, so I guess now I'm a civ?

Seems improbable that you're baddie given how Llama flipped. Unless you're trying to admit your baddieness here? Are you? Lol.

No but I'm admitting yours!

But I'm not bad, LOL. You'll shit when you find out, trust me, either that or I guess you could already know...

But doubtful I suppose.

Kate wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:This means Russ AND Vomps have to be baddie, correct? And two of Mata, S~V~S, and Rox are BOB and the other recruit. I think that means we're seeing Rox, Russ, Vomps, and S~V~S... but then... IDK. Weird. The game should be over.

Oh, so I guess now I'm a civ?

Seems improbable that you're baddie given how Llama flipped. Unless you're trying to admit your baddieness here? Are you? Lol.

Kate wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:Well, RIP llama. Not at all what I expected. That sucks. And yet.... the game continues?

I can't believe you still think I'm BOB. Haha, and you say it with certainty like you actually know. You tell me you don't think Rox or anyone else could be BOB. Perhaps I'll even sig bet you on it.

This means Russ AND Vomps have to be baddie, correct? And two of Mata, S~V~S, and Rox are BOB and the other recruit. I think that means we're seeing Rox, Russ, Vomps, and S~V~S... but then... IDK. Weird. The game should be over.

Well, RIP llama. Not at all what I expected. That sucks. And yet.... the game continues?

Also let the record show I have NOT made any mistakes other than accidentally just BARELY missing the vote because I was an idiot and too busy posting to see how quickly the time went. I still am kicking myself for that one.

Well, I have to go. Mata and S~V~S, whenever you do vote, just think about everything and please make the right decision.

Kate wrote:Well then. If Rox is civ, then mp is bob.

Oh yeah, like that makes sense. You are either so baddie or off your game it's sickening.

Kate wrote:

Matahari wrote:oddly, I just dont see MP screwing up so much when he is civvie. Plus, after having to miss so much time at the start, he was remarkably well informed and posting all that analytical manure when he came back.... only to start making mistakes?

Mata he would never act like this as a civ. Rox was his scapegoat until he accidentally voted with her. He's bad.

Yeah, take it from the person who HOSTED Minecraft. Yeah, like I never mess up or make mistakes as a civvie.

Matahari wrote:oddly, I just dont see MP screwing up so much when he is civvie. Plus, after having to miss so much time at the start, he was remarkably well informed and posting all that analytical manure when he came back.... only to start making mistakes?

Mata, I actually make way more mistakes as a civvie. As a baddie, I'm much more focused. Ask anyone who knows my game.

My most recent game was Minecraft where I was a confirmed civvie, and I honestly played an absolutely terrible game. I missed a vote once and the very first vote of the game (Day 0), I accidentally pressed the wrong option.

I try not to use other games as proof that I'm civvie in a game, but there's no other way for me to defend against that.

Kate wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:

Roxy wrote:

Kate wrote:

Matahari wrote:Protection, Kate? How is that even possible?

Well. It was a hint.

Mata - she is out right lying here. If you have ever trusted me girlfriend trust me now. I am only coming back to plead with you to see logic.

Mati -We all agree llama and Vomps are bad. llama has basically outed himself. Yet you have doubts. llama, Vomps and Kate vote for Rusti - notice two of those voters are the top suspects that are now throwing all they have to sway you. I called their bluff. Please for the love of all old and new mafia gods trust me. I have never asked for your trust in a game before I am asking for it now. You know we are right about llama. You seen and read his posts today as well as I did. This will be my last post to you on this there is nothing more I can say that hasn't been said.

Thank you!

Christ. If you are Bob, then you've played an amazing game, truth be told. Perhaps it really is the case that all of Russ, Llama, and Vomps are baddie... huh. Or maybe Mata or S~V~S is the missing piece of the puzzle.

Oh now it's not Rox?

You know Rox as well as I do. You look at that and tell me a baddie Rox would say that. Because there's no way. Unless she has REALLY upped her baddie game and her baddie game is good, but... that is classic civvie Rox talk.

thellama73 wrote:Man, Rox is good. She's really good. She made me trust her more than once this game. But all the cards are on the table now.

There's no way in hell she is lying; a baddie Rox would not say that.

Roxy wrote:

Kate wrote:

Matahari wrote:Protection, Kate? How is that even possible?

Well. It was a hint.

Mata - she is out right lying here. If you have ever trusted me girlfriend trust me now. I am only coming back to plead with you to see logic.

Mati -We all agree llama and Vomps are bad. llama has basically outed himself. Yet you have doubts. llama, Vomps and Kate vote for Rusti - notice two of those voters are the top suspects that are now throwing all they have to sway you. I called their bluff. Please for the love of all old and new mafia gods trust me. I have never asked for your trust in a game before I am asking for it now. You know we are right about llama. You seen and read his posts today as well as I did. This will be my last post to you on this there is nothing more I can say that hasn't been said.

Thank you!

Christ. If you are Bob, then you've played an amazing game, truth be told. Perhaps it really is the case that all of Russ, Llama, and Vomps are baddie... huh. Or maybe Mata or S~V~S is the missing piece of the puzzle.

Kate wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:

thellama73 wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:Kate, do you mean would NOT have voted? And it is nothing I'm fabricating. Though I do agree fact wasn't the best choice of words, but I meant in that set of circumstances. I don't necessarily believe it to be true, but it's a possibility.

Llama coming in here exclaiming Rox and me to be bad only makes me more sure that he's the baddie here and Russ was being set up the whole time.

MP,you draw evil roles a statistically improbable number of times, which annoys me because I always really want to trust you. But a minute ago you named a bunch of civvies as baddies, so you are no longer fooling anyone.

I am not baddie here, but I have to admit, you guys have done a wonderful job manipulating everyone this game. Vomps, Llama, Kate, and I guess the last has to be Rox or Russ. Nicely done.

So Rox or Russ huh! So either the one you voted with or the one we all voted for? That's makes total sense.

Yes, considering I do still think it likely for not all of Russ, Llama, or Vomps to be baddie, it's clearly not Russ at this point, if any of them.

I love being railroaded by baddies, it's a ton of fun.

thellama73 wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:Kate, do you mean would NOT have voted? And it is nothing I'm fabricating. Though I do agree fact wasn't the best choice of words, but I meant in that set of circumstances. I don't necessarily believe it to be true, but it's a possibility.

Llama coming in here exclaiming Rox and me to be bad only makes me more sure that he's the baddie here and Russ was being set up the whole time.

MP,you draw evil roles a statistically improbable number of times, which annoys me because I always really want to trust you. But a minute ago you named a bunch of civvies as baddies, so you are no longer fooling anyone.

I am not baddie here, but I have to admit, you guys have done a wonderful job manipulating everyone this game. Vomps, Llama, Kate, and I guess the last has to be Rox or Russ. Nicely done.

Matahari wrote:I really think MP needs a cover vote, and Vomps as well.

I told you, covering me would be a waste. But I agree on Vomps. I think one of you and S~V~S should go for Kate and the other Vomps, honestly.

And I can't believe people are saying I'm baddie because I put a vote on llama. I entirely see a scenario in which one of these two/three players (Russ and Llama out of the ones who have votes; Russ, Llama, and Vomps in general) where one could be totally innocent, and I do think we are seeing a recently recruited Kate with a baddie Llama at this point, especially now that he's come back.

Kate, do you mean would NOT have voted? And it is nothing I'm fabricating. Though I do agree fact wasn't the best choice of words, but I meant in that set of circumstances. I don't necessarily believe it to be true, but it's a possibility.

Llama coming in here exclaiming Rox and me to be bad only makes me more sure that he's the baddie here and Russ was being set up the whole time.

Kate wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:

Vompatti wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:It would be a complete waste to cover me; there is still at the least one more recruit up there who hasn't been covered.

Yes there is, it's you.

Nice try, but you're either way off or just lying.

When would you suspect I was recruited then? Because I'm pretty sure llama would have made the perfect Day 2 recruit and Kate a perfect Day 4 recruit, and their behavior thereafter actually seems to indicate those facts.

In fact, those facts alone seem to support that you are either BOB or the Day 0 recruit, would it not?

What facts??

If you were recruited last night and Llama were recruited on Day 2, and Vomps was a Day 0 recruit or BOB, both yours and llama's behavior after the time on which you were recruited would be perfectly explained.

Kate wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:

Matahari wrote:I think MP, Roxy, Kate or Vomps needs a vote. I'll wait to see what SVS thinks. This is now a Kate/Vomps against Roxy/MP duel going and I'm not sure at al what to think-

Cover Kate and/or Vomps.

The way I see it, Rox, Kate, or Vomps is probably BOB, and Russ, Llama, and one of the previous three I mentioned that ISN'T Bob are probably the three recruits.

That could be wrong, but it seems most likely at this point. What are your thoughts? I suppose even if you don't agree with that, it would be wise to cover at least someone, so use your best judgment. I have my bouts of paranoia, but I do still think you're with the civvies here. I hope I'm right.

How about we cover you. Since you are bad and all?

And you think Russ and llama are bad yet you split the vote when there are four civs left? Your vote and your argument don't gel and you know it. Caught Alex is caught.

And.......you voted with Rox who has to be bob if you aren't and that STILL is somehow ok? Come on Alex...

How about not? Since I'm not.

I do think both are likely recruits, yes. However, as I pointed out in a previous post you STILL are ignoring, do you not realize how it could be possible one of Vomps, Russ, and Llama is not recruited? Do I need to repost it for you to believe it or are you just going to keep ignoring possibilities?

Come on Sheila...

Vompatti wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:It would be a complete waste to cover me; there is still at the least one more recruit up there who hasn't been covered.

Yes there is, it's you.

Nice try, but you're either way off or just lying.

When would you suspect I was recruited then? Because I'm pretty sure llama would have made the perfect Day 2 recruit and Kate a perfect Day 4 recruit, and their behavior thereafter actually seems to indicate those facts.

In fact, those facts alone seem to support that you are either BOB or the Day 0 recruit, would it not?

It would be a complete waste to cover me; there is still at the least one more recruit up there who hasn't been covered.

Matahari wrote:I wish I had been a civvie ninja in this game. You'd all be 6 feet under.

LOL, I think a civvie ninja this game would have certainly added an extra element of crazy to it all, as if it wasn't crazy enough.

Matahari wrote:I think MP, Roxy, Kate or Vomps needs a vote. I'll wait to see what SVS thinks. This is now a Kate/Vomps against Roxy/MP duel going and I'm not sure at al what to think-

Cover Kate and/or Vomps.

The way I see it, Rox, Kate, or Vomps is probably BOB, and Russ, Llama, and one of the previous three I mentioned that ISN'T Bob are probably the three recruits.

That could be wrong, but it seems most likely at this point. What are your thoughts? I suppose even if you don't agree with that, it would be wise to cover at least someone, so use your best judgment. I have my bouts of paranoia, but I do still think you're with the civvies here. I hope I'm right.

Vompatti wrote:If you really had thought that both llama and Russ are likely recruits you would either have voted for Russ or used your vote to cover someone. It really seems quite obvious now that llama is not a recruit and you know it.

So are you specifically ignoring the fact that there is still a part of me rolling around in my mind that one of you is unrecruited? Yes, according to the evidence, they are likely recruits; I can't fathom anyone would deny that at this point.

Seriously, Vomps, if you really are unrecruited civvie here, you should be able to recognize how it's near mathematically impossible for llama and Russ to both NOT be recruits, correct, if you are being genuine and not malicious? How about we use Mata and S~V~S's votes to cover two other people and let Ben decide. What do you think of that idea?

Vompatti wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:

Kate wrote:

Vompatti wrote:It seems very likely to me now that MP is a recruit and Roxy is Bob.

Can't wait to see what svs and mata do because both are too smart to not see it now.

I'm sorry, but do you even understand what you're saying here?

I can't wait either. I'm still fine with Russ having the most votes, and I did in fact think that llama would only have 2 when I submitted my vote, because before I submitted it, I could have SWORN it said 1. Then I submitted and it went up to 3. Which is all well and good because it should be evident both are very likely recruits. It just leaves the last two voters to cover some people, that's all.

The fact that Vomps is joining you in this ridiculous charade of trying to make me seem malicious because of this only confirms my suspicion that you have now been recruited.

If you're fine with Russ having the most votes, why on earth should llama have two instead of one???

Because, like I said in an earlier post, which NO ONE SEEMS TO BE DISCUSSING (just for emphasis, I'm not mad), it's entirely possible two of you, Llama, and Russ are recruited and one person could be being set up. Given the huge push against Russ, I was beginning to wonder if that was indeed the case, and I got paranoid. The fact that people still refuse to comment on my theory, when I specifically said I wanted people to give feedback, is frustrating.

Kate wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:

Kate wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:Mata and S~V~S, does one of you at the least want to cover Kate or Vomps? What are we thinking here?

I didn't realize Rox had voted when I submitted my vote; it must have been literally right as I was voting or I was nuts and just didn't see it there.

Wow for such a careful player youve made a lot of voting errors this game.

Uh, let's see here, Kate. I clearly missed the poll in Minecraft, need I remind you what my alignment was that game?

And that was not a voting error -- I just was surprised to see the vote go up from 1 to 3 after I submitted my vote.

So now you see you have voted with Rox, who even you said earlier was probably bob and you think we shouldn't put another vote on Russ, why?

I'm OK with another vote on Russ, but why waste it? We need to cover every recruit and by now there have been three recruits. That means... assuming Llama and Russ are two recruits, we need to, at the very least, use one of the remaining two votes to cover someone. And that's assuming that is the case. If it is not the case, we would need both votes. That's why I was not so happy when I found out mine pushed it up to 3. I could have voted tomorrow, so it's not like I needed to vote now, but I feel confident llama is looking bad here, and I found it really strange people seemed to be pushing Russ only. It made me wonder if I was right about someone being set up.

Vompatti wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:

Kate wrote:Well mata or svs. I hope you will read the passion in my posts. Svs. You know this is civvie Kate. So whichever of you is the civ. vote Russ to give us a chance otherwise good game baddies.

Can you actually explain why Russ is preferable over llama? Your assertion flies in the face with logic that says it's incredibly likely that both are recruits.

I'm fine with a lynch of either, but the fact that you and others seem to be pushing really hard for Russ over llama strikes me odd, so I'm trying to understand. I know you tried to clarify it earlier, but I can't fathom what made you re-evaluate, other than being recruited, and realizing that one of these people perhaps is a victim --- as I theorized could be possible in the part of my post you never addressed.

You don't find it odd how hard Roxy was/is pushing for llama?

I suppose it is a bit odd, but Rox has recognized Russ to be baddie, and I still think both Llama and Russ are likely recruits. If Mata or S~V~S feels better putting one of their votes on Russ, I would be cool with that. But I do still think it'd be better served covering someone else up.

Kate wrote:

Vompatti wrote:It seems very likely to me now that MP is a recruit and Roxy is Bob.

Can't wait to see what svs and mata do because both are too smart to not see it now.

I'm sorry, but do you even understand what you're saying here?

I can't wait either. I'm still fine with Russ having the most votes, and I did in fact think that llama would only have 2 when I submitted my vote, because before I submitted it, I could have SWORN it said 1. Then I submitted and it went up to 3. Which is all well and good because it should be evident both are very likely recruits. It just leaves the last two voters to cover some people, that's all.

The fact that Vomps is joining you in this ridiculous charade of trying to make me seem malicious because of this only confirms my suspicion that you have now been recruited.

Kate wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:Sorry for the triple post. I want to clarify, I still am glad I voted llama, even though Rox did as well. I just read that over and realized it might not have made total sense. I just am thinking, now that only two people still have to vote, we want to use at least one of those to cover someone else, right?

Linki with Kate: Can you please explain your behavior then to me? Your recent posts are manic. I'm still entertaining that it could be Rox, S~V~S, or Mata, I guess, but I don't know if I like the way things went down, and you failed to address the major point in my post that I was hoping you would.

Linki with Vomps: See above, not sure what you're asking, but hopefully that helps.

Yea glad you voted llama along with Rox ... The only other player who could even possibly be bob? Are you even serious right now? That's laughably bad mp. Laughably.

How many times have you changed your mind on who is Bob, again?

I'm sorry, but I don't trust you one bit anymore. It's even entirely possible you've been claiming a role this whole game that you don't even have! If so, props to you on that one. But I don't think that's the case. Either you're way off the mark because of wrong info or something or other, or you've been compromised.

Kate wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:Mata and S~V~S, does one of you at the least want to cover Kate or Vomps? What are we thinking here?

I didn't realize Rox had voted when I submitted my vote; it must have been literally right as I was voting or I was nuts and just didn't see it there.

Wow for such a careful player youve made a lot of voting errors this game.

Uh, let's see here, Kate. I clearly missed the poll in Minecraft, need I remind you what my alignment was that game?

And that was not a voting error -- I just was surprised to see the vote go up from 1 to 3 after I submitted my vote.

Kate wrote:Well mata or svs. I hope you will read the passion in my posts. Svs. You know this is civvie Kate. So whichever of you is the civ. vote Russ to give us a chance otherwise good game baddies.

Can you actually explain why Russ is preferable over llama? Your assertion flies in the face with logic that says it's incredibly likely that both are recruits.

I'm fine with a lynch of either, but the fact that you and others seem to be pushing really hard for Russ over llama strikes me odd, so I'm trying to understand. I know you tried to clarify it earlier, but I can't fathom what made you re-evaluate, other than being recruited, and realizing that one of these people perhaps is a victim --- as I theorized could be possible in the part of my post you never addressed.

Sorry for the triple post. I want to clarify, I still am glad I voted llama, even though Rox did as well. I just read that over and realized it might not have made total sense. I just am thinking, now that only two people still have to vote, we want to use at least one of those to cover someone else, right?

Linki with Kate: Can you please explain your behavior then to me? Your recent posts are manic. I'm still entertaining that it could be Rox, S~V~S, or Mata, I guess, but I don't know if I like the way things went down, and you failed to address the major point in my post that I was hoping you would.

Linki with Vomps: See above, not sure what you're asking, but hopefully that helps.

Mata and S~V~S, does one of you at the least want to cover Kate or Vomps? What are we thinking here?

I didn't realize Rox had voted when I submitted my vote; it must have been literally right as I was voting or I was nuts and just didn't see it there.