The Syndicate

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu May 14, 2020 7:46 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu May 14, 2020 7:44 pm huh something new added to the crazy mafia gimmicks idea list

tune into economists mafia, the sequel to philosophers mafia to see what this new this new gimmick could be! Coming late 2020/early 2021.

Oh no, I'm not sure I want to re-live Golden 2.0.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu May 14, 2020 7:08 pm I went low on the restriction deliberately -- 25 is very tight. I wanted the type to open with a truly slow game to see what it could be like. In the end we have as many posts as most heists, somewhat to my surprise. I suspect future Rackets will usually offer more than 25 posts, Jiggies or not.

Yeah, you're probably right. I wholeheartedly believe it was a worthwhile experience regardless of where things go from here.

I also am firmly of the belief that removing the cap prior to EoD is effective at removing the shackles so to speak, but I know there are different opinions on that.

nutella wrote: ↑Thu May 14, 2020 6:59 pm

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Thu May 14, 2020 6:50 pm I put Option 3 ("I see the appeal, but it's not for me."), but I'm not hardline on that. I could be convinced to play a Racket game with the right host and/or playerlist, and it might be a better kind of game for me under certain work conditions. I'm going to have to figure out a new approach to playing though.

Thanks for hosting though, Jay, this was a great experience even if frustrating at times. I suppose that's a function of town games in general too though.

Basically same. I think I'd do better with a somewhat more generous post cap, but aside from the direct restriction on my freedom to spam the thread (lol) my other issue with post cap games is that when people are forced to make fewer posts they tend to make longer posts, and I find reading a series of walls much more draining than scrolling through a large quantity of short and to-the-point posts (and that correlates with the back-and-forth feel of real-time interaction as well).

I agree completely with this. I think a Heist/Racket hybrid would intrigue me greatly if the cap were relatively generous but not excessive.

I put Option 3 ("I see the appeal, but it's not for me."), but I'm not hardline on that. I could be convinced to play a Racket game with the right host and/or playerlist, and it might be a better kind of game for me under certain work conditions. I'm going to have to figure out a new approach to playing though.

Thanks for hosting though, Jay, this was a great experience even if frustrating at times. I suppose that's a function of town games in general too though.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu May 14, 2020 6:32 pm Sorry but I was hoping Russ would block Sloonei on Night 4 just so I could laugh at the eternal futility of his role

It would have been pretty funny.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu May 14, 2020 6:29 pm Not a worry at all, Russ, for either of them thingies you mentioned.

I think a crossover sounds neat. Depending upon the intended location of that game, I may be able to offer y'all some insights words of wisdom warnings about how certain things may be received after some... adventure in the Inception invitational.

That'd be much appreciated for sure.

Russtifinko wrote: ↑Thu May 14, 2020 6:26 pm If you guys will bear with me for a shameless plug (no disrespect JJJ, hope you don't mind):

Me and MP will be co-hosting Congressional Mafia later this year, and I'm really excited about it! The plan is to have it be a sort of Syndicate-Mafia Universe crossover game, and I'd be thrilled to have any and all of you sign up! I'll make sure to let you know when it starts.

I am seriously stoked for this. Not entirely sure on the timing yet, but 99% sure it'll happen in 2020 sometime.

Nonetheless, I hope to play again with Russ and the rest of you all soon. It's been fun to be back.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu May 14, 2020 6:17 pm

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Thu May 14, 2020 6:15 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu May 14, 2020 6:13 pm oh highlight quote gets rid of formatting so we can't see how profound my blunder was. Russ was my top town read on Day 1 in a class of his own.

He fooled us all really.

I JKed him N1 because of it, even if I did have the slightest of tinfoils. That'd been wild if I had stopped the kill then.

We both targeted him because we had him as our top town reads, I assume.
and then the same with dunya the next night.
then i had submitted my night 3 action on you initially.

Yep. Funny how you and I were on the same wavelength, I should have found you more easily. I was sort out of it though; workload, trying to lay low on purpose due to the post cap and my role, etc. all fucked with me. It was a hard game.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu May 14, 2020 6:13 pm oh highlight quote gets rid of formatting so we can't see how profound my blunder was. Russ was my top town read on Day 1 in a class of his own.

He fooled us all really.

I JKed him N1 because of it, even if I did have the slightest of tinfoils. That'd been wild if I had stopped the kill then.

Russtifinko wrote: ↑Thu May 14, 2020 6:13 pm Hooo man. Super well played everyone, especially my three MYLO-mates. You guys played incredible and had me so nervous up to the very last second, when I switch my vote to TH. (I was, probably unreasonably, scared that a tied lynch would result in no lynch and I'd have to do LYLO too).

Linki: Wow, thank you so so so so much everyone! I'm humbled by all the praise - I truly consider myself a man among giants when I walk into a mafia game with you all. I am not being falsely modest when I say I only won that game because I haven't been around in a while - you all had stupendous intuition, and I only avoided being detected because you didn't have anything to compare my baddie play against.

Also, dunya, I hope that I didn't ruin the game too badly for you and that there's no permanent bad feelings. I tried to play Day 1 exactly as I would as a civ, and it's true that you and I seem to come from extremely different mafia cultures. After that, at times it felt useful to have a foil in the thread, and I also felt like I couldn't go back on my suspicion without drawing more notice onto myself. I think that you handled everything - the tunneling, the fighting, etc. - with unbelievable class, and you played an amazing game, too. Truly honored to have met you and I hope we get to be civs together sometime.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu May 14, 2020 6:12 pm Spec chat post count probably higher than actual game post count

Spec chat woo!

juliets wrote: ↑Thu May 14, 2020 6:12 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu May 14, 2020 6:10 pm i am exhausted.

Those of us who watched can certainly understand why.

Yeah, for sure, I've been there. It sucks.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu May 14, 2020 6:07 pm It was right at the last moment when Russ asked how ties are decided that I decided my vote. That's not something the mafia player needs to care about. Superb finishing touch.

Seriously, and the Russ/nutella interactions were gold. Such good distancing there.

Russ needs to win an award for this already.

Congrats, Russ!

Wow, what a fucking game. I felt so bad for you all at the end there. Well played by all, it was tough.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Fri May 08, 2020 6:23 pm

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Fri May 08, 2020 6:19 pm

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Fri May 08, 2020 6:17 pm And MP I have zero interest in this argument about whose fault it is for me not putting you on the top of my rainbow list after you claimed.

If you don't like my responses vote for me. Whatever, I don't care.

I mantain that your reaction to Sloonei's prodding of you was extremely scummy and I don't regret suspecting you from that.

I'm not trying to assign blame, sorry, I'm just trying to solve and express that I was bothered by some things you did, that's all.

It wasn't scummy, I was trying to understand what the fuck he was on about, and I already had been feeling paranoid of deepwolves, so I thought in the moment that his treatment of me was nefarious. I no longer thought that once I was able to take a step back from the situation and he successfully showed me the series of posts that I obviously needed to see.

What have you learned from my character claim?

Well, the first thing is that the 3 protagonists of this game continue to be missing and I'm starting to tinfoil that one of them may be mafia. Also my plan to get you or Gman confirmed based on succeeding or failing at claiming those characters is now busted.

The other thing is that this makes me a little more suspicious of you, but now completely, because your character is in that sweet spot of not being a protagonist but still being reasonably important to be in the game, similarly to nutella's fake claim.

I actually feel a bit better about you given your insistence to try to solve in this way.

I'm not sure how fruitful it is, but that's in part because I know my claim is real. I say do your thing even if it means you suspect me from it.

Also, once I took a step back from that conversation with Sloonei and realized I felt he was actually completely town, I realized something about the way town Sloonei plays. I had often observed him doing it to other players, but I don't think I had ever really been a hardcore subject to it until then.

Sloonei is a Tonberry.



He just gets closer and closer (usually by asking questions), and then when he thinks he's really onto something and he's caught you, BAM, he stabs you.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri May 08, 2020 6:20 pm

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Fri May 08, 2020 6:15 pm I think at least one if not both scum intended on lynching me at a key point today and then hopped off once that no longer was viable.

Can you pinpoint an exact moment where this goal was manifested? Who did this?

I just could feel the pressure piling on right before my claim, so I intended on holding it off for much longer originally, but I decided to go ahead and do it anyway.

I thought at the time that Jack was one of those, but obviously that was wrong. Otherwise, I've made it clear that I didn't like how DDL just jumped on me after you and I had our tiff, and what I didn't like about it is how he consciously tied me to nutella beyond what you were saying. I think it's something to consider at least.

If anything, I actually was also a bit bothered by Russ's interpretation of my back and forth with Sloonei, because I feel like he should know me better (oh no I can't believe I'm thinking this), but I couldn't post about it, so anyway, that's a thing.

I think Turnip Head deserves more scrutiny as well.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Fri May 08, 2020 6:17 pm And MP I have zero interest in this argument about whose fault it is for me not putting you on the top of my rainbow list after you claimed.

If you don't like my responses vote for me. Whatever, I don't care.

I mantain that your reaction to Sloonei's prodding of you was extremely scummy and I don't regret suspecting you from that.

I'm not trying to assign blame, sorry, I'm just trying to solve and express that I was bothered by some things you did, that's all.

It wasn't scummy, I was trying to understand what the fuck he was on about, and I already had been feeling paranoid of deepwolves, so I thought in the moment that his treatment of me was nefarious. I no longer thought that once I was able to take a step back from the situation and he successfully showed me the series of posts that I obviously needed to see.

What have you learned from my character claim?

I think at least one if not both scum intended on lynching me at a key point today and then hopped off once that no longer was viable.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Fri May 08, 2020 6:12 pm

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Fri May 08, 2020 6:09 pm

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Fri May 08, 2020 6:08 pm

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Fri May 08, 2020 6:06 pm

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Fri May 08, 2020 6:05 pm

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Fri May 08, 2020 6:02 pm As for my character claim, I didn't think to mention it obviously. I'm Brentilda Winkybunion.

And I goofed, all, I went back and checked, and I received 3 jiggies for outlasting nutella's role, not because I received them as a gift. Totally forgot about that aspect of my role, oops. I just got the PM and assumed someone gave them to me because all I remembered about my role was the JK part.

Oh, a non-protagonist yet major character who is important enough to be in the setup.

I'd be about to call bullshit since the last one of those we saw in this game was nutella's fake claim. But I think @Sloonei confirmed MP's claim early today?

You sure spent a lot of time asking for my character and doubting my claim, yet you didn't go back and look for my breadcrumb.

Did anyone for that matter?

Are breadcrumbs even a thing in this site

I gave one, and I provided excruciating detail for my logic on it. I think that's suspect of you, and your handling of my claim was the real bullshit here.

Oh yeah I have to admit I just skimmed your post looking for a character claim. Didn't see it so I moved on to what I should do next.

Yeah, but you shaded and doubted me all day phase while I couldn't talk, even though I laid everything out there. If you're going to choose not to believe me, the onus is on you, not me.

My trust pile is dunya and Sloonei, by the way. I don't trust anyone else anymore.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Fri May 08, 2020 6:08 pm

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Fri May 08, 2020 6:06 pm

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Fri May 08, 2020 6:05 pm

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Fri May 08, 2020 6:02 pm As for my character claim, I didn't think to mention it obviously. I'm Brentilda Winkybunion.

And I goofed, all, I went back and checked, and I received 3 jiggies for outlasting nutella's role, not because I received them as a gift. Totally forgot about that aspect of my role, oops. I just got the PM and assumed someone gave them to me because all I remembered about my role was the JK part.

Oh, a non-protagonist yet major character who is important enough to be in the setup.

I'd be about to call bullshit since the last one of those we saw in this game was nutella's fake claim. But I think @Sloonei confirmed MP's claim early today?

You sure spent a lot of time asking for my character and doubting my claim, yet you didn't go back and look for my breadcrumb.

Did anyone for that matter?

Are breadcrumbs even a thing in this site

I gave one, and I provided excruciating detail for my logic on it. I think that's suspect of you, and your handling of my claim was the real bullshit here.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Fri May 08, 2020 6:05 pm

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Fri May 08, 2020 6:02 pm As for my character claim, I didn't think to mention it obviously. I'm Brentilda Winkybunion.

And I goofed, all, I went back and checked, and I received 3 jiggies for outlasting nutella's role, not because I received them as a gift. Totally forgot about that aspect of my role, oops. I just got the PM and assumed someone gave them to me because all I remembered about my role was the JK part.

Oh, a non-protagonist yet major character who is important enough to be in the setup.

I'd be about to call bullshit since the last one of those we saw in this game was nutella's fake claim. But I think @Sloonei confirmed MP's claim early today?

You sure spent a lot of time asking for my character and doubting my claim, yet you didn't go back and look for my breadcrumb.

Did anyone for that matter?

Also I did move my vote, yeah, my bad for not posting that. I thought Jack sounded sort of genuine but wasn't sure. I still think I would have supported these two wagons if I had a voice at the time.

As for my character claim, I didn't think to mention it obviously. I'm Brentilda Winkybunion.

And I goofed, all, I went back and checked, and I received 3 jiggies for outlasting nutella's role, not because I received them as a gift. Totally forgot about that aspect of my role, oops. I just got the PM and assumed someone gave them to me because all I remembered about my role was the JK part.

I'm so sorry about everything, I hate post count limits (no disrespect towards the setup or host intended).

Fuck, I can't believe I have to do this, but I guess I have to. I really tried to avoid it, but here we are. And I wanted to wait for dunya or Russ, but I think I should probably just do this now instead of later so you all can perform investigation elsewhere.

This will be my final post of the day. I'm willing to vote anyone out of my POE (and self-preservation, but if I have to do that I'll be disappointed), and I'll be watching the thread as much as I can even though I can't say anything.

I'm the town jailkeeper, which means I both protect my target from NKs and block them from performing their action. This is partly why I've been playing especially low key lately, because I didn't want to get NKed and I thought my role could serve us much better as the game went on, and I was worried that I was getting townread too much, so I had to purposefully suppress my WIM. But yeah, I had no flipping idea I would become the #1 wagon today. Now everything else I said was true, but my being a PR definitely factored into my play here, and it's hard to say how I would have played here if I were VT, but that doesn't matter now I guess.

My general thinking with my role was to do anything I could to stop the NK, and if I could do that at least once, it would give us valuable extra time. So I was really hoping to live to at least D4 so I could try again tonight. Unfortunately, I guess that won't happen now.

- I targeted Russ N1. I generally thought he'd be one of the most likely to die due to him getting consensus townread (except by dunya, I believe was the only holdout), but I was also a bit worried of tinfoil there, so I felt that was the best of both worlds. You can see how I even pull back on Russ N1 in my rainbow reads (go look if you don't believe me, I tried to make it clear). I was vague about it when asked later (I think by dunya?) because it was purely for breadcrumbs reasons.

- I targeted dunya N2. Similar logic. I didn't really breadcrumb that last night though, sorry, and I was also thinking it was going to stop the kill because I thought for sure dunya had an incredibly high chance of dying last night. But then the thread developed, and I realized they might go for the PR kill of Nanook, and I almost changed my thing to Nanook at the last minute but I didn't because I wasn't sure and I didn't want to block Nanook because I thought he was very likely a motion detector (which I thought from the series of his sig claim, where a motion detector is someone who sees motion, and so maybe he thought if sig claimed VT, then he'd have backed off, but since sig never claimed anything it didn't go anywhere), so... yeah.

So this means that you all now know that Russ never performs the kill on N1 and dunya never performs the kill on N2, but unfortunately that's all I got as far as helpful information here. I think that my being a PR is why I was more willing to defend Nanook's line of suspicion and more easily understand where he was coming from than the thread in general, as well as think G-Man could be scum here today because if we have Nanook's role, my role, and a town vig, I don't see how we have a fourth town PR as easily there from what we know about this setup so far.

I had to play up some uncertainty just a bit for suspicion's sake, but it backfired (just a bit lol oops), sorry guys. I really did feel relatively uncertain earlier today and I was trying to feel out Sloonei plus see what anyone else would do (and that's why what DDL did here bothers me x1000 more than what Sloonei did, especially because I'm NOT nutella and I don't play like her, so his jump on this thing reeks of opportunism like nothing else). I'm 99% sure that dunya, Russ, Turnip, and Sloonei are all town right now, so I think we can still win this thing, especially if you all rightly believe me.

Now please, get your votes off me and make the scum NK me tonight, because I'm pretty sure I'm our strongest PR left in this game now that a vig shot has been fired, and I refuse to be the designated ML today.

Go find yourself another ML, DDL.

[VOTE: Dragon D. Luffy] aubergine

It's fine, Sloonei, really. I'll get over it, at least I've confirmed you as town now; I just don't see why you do all of this as scum anymore. I'm sorry for being a general asshat about the whole thing. My mood is pretty fucked especially in the last 48 hours, so that probably doesn't help all of this. I was doing okay for a while there, but I've barely left my house now in almost two months, and even though I'm a hermit-level introvert, it's really getting to me. Quarantine always scum tbh.

dunya
Russ
Sloonei

Turnip

Jack
DDL
G-Man

speed

I guess if I had to separate my POE out... I don't really know, everyone seems town tbh.

I have 2 posts left, so I guess I really am going back to work now.

But you know what, that's fine, I'm nearly out of fucking posts now so that's pretty great.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu May 07, 2020 2:42 pm

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M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Thu May 07, 2020 2:39 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu May 07, 2020 2:36 pm

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Thu May 07, 2020 2:27 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu May 07, 2020 2:24 pm

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M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Thu May 07, 2020 2:21 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu May 07, 2020 2:19 pm

Wild. Nutella said the same thing on Night 2.

[VOTE: MP] aubergine

So you're lynching me because I don't remember that and based on something someone else said? What exactly from Night 2 do you want to talk to me about?

That's not it at all. Not even close.

Have you read Night 2 at all?

Honestly Sloonei, I can't even keep track of what happened in what phase for the most part in this game, and I don't know what else to tell you.

For a man considered about players "burning posts" so much earlier in the game, you don't seem to give a fuck about that right now.

I've been collecting jiggies and getting more comfortable with the format.

But here, let me help you. I am trying to ask you if you've seen the exchange that begins at this post and carries on for quite a while over the course of Night 2. Because if you are going to float the idea that nutella and I are partners, it seems fair to consider what is easily the most significant interaction the two of us had in the game.

I asked about it because it didn't seem like you had much awareness of it. You've now admitted as much. I've grown more suspicious over the course of this conversation because, like nutella before, I am getting the sense that you are lashing out against me without actually having read the stuff that I'm talking about. It feels blind and hapless, just like it did when she tried it before. Your reaction does not make sense to me from a civilian MP: instead of admitting that you hadn't read A Thing and reserving judgment til you had, you immediately leapt to "This isn't town Sloonei."

My initial question was whether or not you had read Night 2. We have established that you had not read it at the time. I'll give you time to do that and then we can hit the reset button, but you've dug yourself a bad little hole here.

Why didn't you just say this to begin with? Jesus fuck. Thank you.

Because then you wouldn't have given me this juicy reaction.

Thanks for working with me.

Not the type of thing I like, frankly, especially when it's obvious I'm struggling by drowning here, but fine, it's fair game, and if you suspect me, it's entirely understandable treatment. I just feel like you've given me no option to show me that I'm town, and that's what was bugging me about the whole thing. I remember working with town Sloonei and him not being cagey AF. This feels like a GOTCHA, SEE, HAHAHAHA.

Alright, that increasingly doesn't read like distancing nearly as much as I remembered from what I had in my memory as Sloonei/nutella interactions, especially reading it all successively. This post especially reads like pure shade from nutella. And even if I think you're both fully capable of faking stuff, that seems way too on the nose.

I thought it was within the realm of possibility, but nah. Just ignore me. Fuck. I'm sorry everyone. I should have just continued not saying anything because I'm less familiar with this thread than the rest of you apparently. I'm unvoting and I'll just let you all do things because I really don't know what the fuck is going on and now I've wasted most of my posts being a fucking moron.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu May 07, 2020 2:36 pm

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Thu May 07, 2020 2:27 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu May 07, 2020 2:24 pm

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M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Thu May 07, 2020 2:21 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu May 07, 2020 2:19 pm

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Thu May 07, 2020 2:19 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu May 07, 2020 2:18 pm lol.

Nope. I am asking these questions because of how they reflect on you. This isn't self-defense. This is town sloonei doing town sloonei things. I know I'm never being lynched today. I am considering you.

So talk to me about Night 2 please.

I don't feel sincerity from you.

Wild. Nutella said the same thing on Night 2.

[VOTE: MP] aubergine

So you're lynching me because I don't remember that and based on something someone else said? What exactly from Night 2 do you want to talk to me about?

That's not it at all. Not even close.

Have you read Night 2 at all?

Honestly Sloonei, I can't even keep track of what happened in what phase for the most part in this game, and I don't know what else to tell you.

For a man considered about players "burning posts" so much earlier in the game, you don't seem to give a fuck about that right now.

I've been collecting jiggies and getting more comfortable with the format.

But here, let me help you. I am trying to ask you if you've seen the exchange that begins at this post and carries on for quite a while over the course of Night 2. Because if you are going to float the idea that nutella and I are partners, it seems fair to consider what is easily the most significant interaction the two of us had in the game.

I asked about it because it didn't seem like you had much awareness of it. You've now admitted as much. I've grown more suspicious over the course of this conversation because, like nutella before, I am getting the sense that you are lashing out against me without actually having read the stuff that I'm talking about. It feels blind and hapless, just like it did when she tried it before. Your reaction does not make sense to me from a civilian MP: instead of admitting that you hadn't read A Thing and reserving judgment til you had, you immediately leapt to "This isn't town Sloonei."

My initial question was whether or not you had read Night 2. We have established that you had not read it at the time. I'll give you time to do that and then we can hit the reset button, but you've dug yourself a bad little hole here.

Why didn't you just say this to begin with? Jesus fuck. Thank you.

Lest we all forget that Sloonei suspected Tony for asking him something that caused him to talk about it multiple times. I no longer think that was real.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu May 07, 2020 2:24 pm

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M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Thu May 07, 2020 2:21 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu May 07, 2020 2:19 pm

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Thu May 07, 2020 2:19 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu May 07, 2020 2:18 pm lol.

Nope. I am asking these questions because of how they reflect on you. This isn't self-defense. This is town sloonei doing town sloonei things. I know I'm never being lynched today. I am considering you.

So talk to me about Night 2 please.

I don't feel sincerity from you.

Wild. Nutella said the same thing on Night 2.

[VOTE: MP] aubergine

So you're lynching me because I don't remember that and based on something someone else said? What exactly from Night 2 do you want to talk to me about?

That's not it at all. Not even close.

Have you read Night 2 at all?

Honestly Sloonei, I can't even keep track of what happened in what phase for the most part in this game, and I don't know what else to tell you.

For a man considered about players "burning posts" so much earlier in the game, you don't seem to give a fuck about that right now.

I'm punching above my weight right now, but it feels good.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu May 07, 2020 2:19 pm

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Thu May 07, 2020 2:19 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu May 07, 2020 2:18 pm lol.

Nope. I am asking these questions because of how they reflect on you. This isn't self-defense. This is town sloonei doing town sloonei things. I know I'm never being lynched today. I am considering you.

So talk to me about Night 2 please.

I don't feel sincerity from you.

Wild. Nutella said the same thing on Night 2.

[VOTE: MP] aubergine

So you're lynching me because I don't remember that and based on something someone else said? What exactly from Night 2 do you want to talk to me about?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu May 07, 2020 2:18 pm lol.

Nope. I am asking these questions because of how they reflect on you. This isn't self-defense. This is town sloonei doing town sloonei things. I know I'm never being lynched today. I am considering you.

So talk to me about Night 2 please.

I don't feel sincerity from you.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu May 07, 2020 2:13 pm

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Thu May 07, 2020 2:10 pm That said, my initial inclination was to clear you completely, and although after looking back at the stuff and/or thinking about it more thoroughly I can more easily envision nutella/Sloonei, I don't believe it strongly... but maybe I should.

Anyway, work, things, I only have so many posts. Stuff.

So have you not read Night 2 then?

Town Sloonei doesn't say this. I'm locking on this.

You know what, fuck it, this feels right.

[VOTE: Sloonei] aubergine

What does it matter what I have or haven't read? Does that reflect my alignment?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu May 07, 2020 2:13 pm

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Thu May 07, 2020 2:10 pm That said, my initial inclination was to clear you completely, and although after looking back at the stuff and/or thinking about it more thoroughly I can more easily envision nutella/Sloonei, I don't believe it strongly... but maybe I should.

Anyway, work, things, I only have so many posts. Stuff.

So have you not read Night 2 then?

Why do you care about pushing this? I'm in an infinitely more precarious position than you.

I also feel like certain things you've said, Sloonei, are more or less... okay with the game flow. Except for the G-Man case, I suppose, but he'd be an easy ML to push if you're scum here and he's town, yeah? I'm not sure how much credit you really should get for that. And then otherwise, like, you were interested in the MP theory, idk. I lately haven't gotten as much of a feeling that you care.

I'll stop being a liar now.

That said, my initial inclination was to clear you completely, and although after looking back at the stuff and/or thinking about it more thoroughly I can more easily envision nutella/Sloonei, I don't believe it strongly... but maybe I should.

Anyway, work, things, I only have so many posts. Stuff.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu May 07, 2020 1:53 pm

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Thu May 07, 2020 1:38 pm Also in fact I'm especially worried I've been wrong about Sloonei this whole time, and nutella and Sloonei are crafty enough to read thread environment and realize that nutella was inevitably going to die, so they wanted to set Sloonei up to carry.

There, things I've been thinking but you all haven't been fully getting. I admittedly have not been close to fully transparent lately.

Let's talk some more about the world where I am bad please.

I don't think I truly believe it... you'd have to have tapdanced around early suspicion and having trouble adapting your playstyle, especially if you rolled scum, but found your groove otherwise; interacted with nutella in manners in the thread that had very specific clearing intentions (your breaking the cardinal sin by associating her with someone, etc.). Possible, I suppose. I also felt like there was always pretty decent resistance to you getting lynched, although I realize a good portion of that early on was me, lol.

Thank you so much to whoever gave me the Jiggies by the way. I can't post like this (my natural state) without you.

I need to really do more work anyway, I'll be back.

I've had some insane spicy tinfoil too that Russ and dunya were bussing each other earlier on but then conveniently dropped it over time. I don't believe it for more than a second though.