The Syndicate

FZ. wrote:Thanks for the banner Epig Now, if only I could get my other one

FYI I am also keeping all of the banners at the very end of The Hall of Fame thread!

Wow, Blooper and Mongoose, you both nailed your roles!

And yeah, I can relate entirely with baddie burn out, TH; it's something I've experienced very recently and often myself (being often given baddie roles and playing very aggressively), so it was refreshing to have a wacky, civvie role here, I must admit.

Epignosis wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:YES!!!! Go civvies!!!!

Does it make more sense now why I was missing votes? :P

This was such a fantastic game, Robert! I loved it! It was great getting to play a more wacky and quiet style there for a while too.
Your excuses were so freaking ridiculous.

LOL, they were! I tried to be as ridiculous as possible to get people to talk about them... I was surprised there wasn't even more talk about them than what occurred!

YES!!!! Go civvies!!!! :yay:

Does it make more sense now why I was missing votes? :P

This was such a fantastic game, Robert! I loved it! It was great getting to play a more wacky and quiet style there for a while too.

FZ. wrote:Stupid me me.
Image

Mr. Lucas
Always late! *Secret*
MP

I am not Mr. Lucas. Good guess though!

I am a civvie, just not that one.

FZ. wrote:I did notice that MP voted voted today. I still think think he didn't vote for a good reason and not really for the prosaic reasons he mentioned like falling asleep or losing himself in a music store...

I just hope that whoever the manageress is, her/his win is not on on the expense of ours.

So we're basically waiting for for Blooper and Signore Rapa Testa, right?

linki: Lol, I have to go back and forth every time to check check that I'm quoting it right

I did vote today!

Let me just say there's a reason for everything I do.

And that despite that fact, I really hated being late for all the polls this game. Now THAT was OUT OF MY CONTROL. Except it wasn't.

FZ. wrote:I have have to admit, that there's a small tiny part of me that thinks that MP decided to screw us after last game game. He was told that when he's a civvie, he posts less than he does as a baddie, so so he decided to take it to the next level and also refrain from voting. If he's the baddie, it it sure as hell worked. He fooled us us completely.

That would be genius, but I can assure you, that is not the case here.

Awesome theory though.

S~V~S wrote:Yeah, it was an interesting theory, though

I never would have thought of that not being able to vote thing. someone would have to be creative to get away with that.

It is, I'll give it that.

Yeah, something like that.

Re: Are You Being Served? [4:00pm] I am not the Manageress.

I am not the Manageress.

Boogs wrote:I still think it's FZ regardless or your assessment Mp. Either you're doing a really bad job on your accusation, or you're the Baddie and not FZ lol. I've got to cast my vote on FZ to make sure we can win this game. I will be busy tomorrow again at the convention, so that's what I am going with. I will try to check in to see if anything changes, but not likely.

So because I disagree with you on FZ., if the baddie isn't FZ., it must be me? Why?

Like the genius I am, I used the incorrect name for Signore Rapa Testa once I believe, so I have +1 vote against me already. Lol.

Elohcin wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:
Elohcin wrote:Right, so if we get the last baddie this lynch period. the game is over, civvies win. Maintenance may or may not win, depending on if peacock is dead or alive.
Sounds that way. That's not what I was expecting at all; it's a bit unorthodox. Awesome though.

Well, you know where I think your vote should go. Personally, I'm seeing Mongoose as civvie, but I'm not super confident about that.
Well..I am glad to hear you are not super confident b/c I am not super confident she is civvie and and I am not sure confident that Signore Rapa Testa is baddie. I am only half way through reading Signore Rapa Testa though. I should be sleeping. My kids are sleeping. But instead I am paying Mafia. If you were a mom you would understand how stupid that is

I at least can respect your voting decision nonetheless. Maybe you're right.

I could be wrong about Signore Rapa Testa, but I hope I'm not. I'm just going with what I have assessed to make the most sense to me, and I didn't see myself changing my mind. I'm sick of doubting myself!

And agreed on more discussion... where is everyone?

Epignosis wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:
Epignosis wrote:The language is plain:

[The Maintenance] can win with any team, but both Captain Peacock and Mr. Rumbold must be out.

If Capt. Peacock is in and the game is over, Maintenance loses.
Is Mr. Rumbold is in and the game is over, Maintenance loses.

If Capt. Peacock and Mr. Rumbold are out, Maintenance wins.
Hmmmm, interesting, so you're saying if civvies and Maintenance were the ONLY factions remaining, and Peacock were among those civvies, the civvies would win and the game would end? or would the game continue until either Maintenance or Peacock were eliminated?

I would assume the latter, since that's how I typically have seen such roles, but it seems you're saying the former. Which is fantastic.
I am saying this: Regardless of what happens, if Peacock or Rumbold are in at Endgame, Maintenance loses.

Got it, thanks!

Elohcin wrote:Right, so if we get the last baddie this lynch period. the game is over, civvies win. Maintenance may or may not win, depending on if peacock is dead or alive.

Sounds that way. That's not what I was expecting at all; it's a bit unorthodox. Awesome though.

Well, you know where I think your vote should go. Personally, I'm seeing Mongoose as civvie, but I'm not super confident about that.

Epignosis wrote:The language is plain:

[The Maintenance] can win with any team, but both Captain Peacock and Mr. Rumbold must be out.

If Capt. Peacock is in and the game is over, Maintenance loses.
Is Mr. Rumbold is in and the game is over, Maintenance loses.

If Capt. Peacock and Mr. Rumbold are out, Maintenance wins.

Hmmmm, interesting, so you're saying if civvies and Maintenance were the ONLY factions remaining, and Peacock were among those civvies, the civvies would win and the game would end? or would the game continue until either Maintenance or Peacock were eliminated?

I would assume the latter, since that's how I typically have seen such roles, but it seems you're saying the former. Which is fantastic.

Elohcin wrote:if peacock is alive and maintenance is alive, then maintenance cannot win, but civvies can.

HOST can you confirm?

Elo, look, that doesn't make sense.

If civvies, including Peacock, and Maintenance are alive, then how could the game even end? Either Peacock or Maintenance would have to be eliminated before all non-Peacock civvies could win.

But I'm hoping Robert can confirm this.

Elohcin wrote:Are you saying you are maintenance?

What? No, I am not. Civvies (we) can't win if Peacock is alive and Maintenance is alive.

Elohcin wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:
Elohcin wrote:MP, not sure about maintenance. I am not even sure where you would begin to look to figure out something like that. It is possible that either or both could have been nightkilled just as it is possible that Peacock has been nightkilled. I am more concerned with the baddie thing right now, I think. If we get the last baddie out, we've won. However, I guess if no one seems suspicious enough...maybe we ought to see who is bandwagoning together...maintenance will most likely vote together in this type of situation if they are both alive.
What about the theory that Maintenance would want to lynch players regardless of whether or not who is baddie? You didn't think the way votes went down last lynch period was odd?

And your "if we get the last baddie out, we've won" is not true, if both Peacock and the Maintenance are alive. I agree the baddie is much higher priority, though. Guess we'll see what happens.
I'm confused. Maintenance needs peacock and rumbold gone to win, but can win with either team. If we get rumbold out....we win, regardless of is maintenance is alive or not....yes?

Peacock is a civvie. I said if Peacock is alive and Maintenance is alive, then we can't win.

Elohcin wrote:MP, not sure about maintenance. I am not even sure where you would begin to look to figure out something like that. It is possible that either or both could have been nightkilled just as it is possible that Peacock has been nightkilled. I am more concerned with the baddie thing right now, I think. If we get the last baddie out, we've won. However, I guess if no one seems suspicious enough...maybe we ought to see who is bandwagoning together...maintenance will most likely vote together in this type of situation if they are both alive.

What about the theory that Maintenance would want to lynch players regardless of whether or not who is baddie? You didn't think the way votes went down last lynch period was odd?

And your "if we get the last baddie out, we've won" is not true, if both Peacock and the Maintenance are alive. I agree the baddie is much higher priority, though. Guess we'll see what happens.

Mongoose, you didn't actually cast your vote (yet).

Elohcin wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:Thanks for your thoughts, Elo!

Interesting that you find Blooper to be genuine. Hmmmm.
You don't? She sounds it to me. What do you think?

Also, I got through my SVS reread as well. No specific pings :/ Mongoose is next, I may be able to finish reading her before I go to sleep...we shall see. The rest will have to wait for tomorrow.

I don't know; I think she is most likely to be not genuine to me after TH, but maybe I'm wrong.

Given only one baddie and any random number of independents remain, it's probable you may not find too many people sounding not genuine. But I'm interested in what you think nonetheless. Let me know if you have any ideas on Maintenance members.

Thanks for your thoughts, Elo!

Interesting that you find Blooper to be genuine. Hmmmm.

Elohcin wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:Votes Signore Rapa Testa

Might as well. Can't see my mind changing at all. Let's get this over with.

Wow...what was quick. I am not going to be so hasty. I think we ought to hear from Signore Rapa Testa first. I mean...isn't the case against him just that he has been quiet? You've been quiet too MP.

Why not? Do you think anyone else is more worthy?

No, that is NOT the only part of the case against him.

You think being quiet makes me bad?

Votes Signore Rapa Testa

Might as well. Can't see my mind changing at all. Let's get this over with.

nijuukyugou wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:
nijuukyugou wrote:RIP DP Sorry, dude.

I am also curious why TH isn't on your suspect list, Boogs, and why you are so adamant about FZ being bad? Is it the facade you speak of? Or are we missing something else vital? I'm all ears, but TH is currently the top of my list.

And going with Crosby, Dills, and Nash because I looooooove salmon And cauliflower, if I have to pick.
Why is TH at the top of your list; why do you find him bad?

You said previously he's "hard to read" and seemed to indicate you suspected him in a wishy-washy kind of way, yet you voted for DP.
I felt more strongly about DP this morning because of the reasons I stated, but that didn't completely exclude TH from my suspicion (he was number 2 out of everyone else, so that currently makes him number 1). Yes, he is still hard to read, due to minimal posts, for which he attributed to his work schedule. Honestly, it seems to be that it's down to FZ and TH for that last management position, and they are both accusing each other of having that role, so I feel like I'm picking sides (as are the rest of the staff and everyone else). I went through my logic about why I don't suspect FZ at this point. FZ brought up good points about TH trying to separate himself from Vomps during his lynch poll, and I'm not buying his defense. No, I'm not 100% sure it's TH, but I'm much more inclined to vote him than FZ if it comes down to it, unless new evidence is brought to light.

Thanks for the elaboration!

Boogs wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:Boogs, why don't you think TH is bad? Just curious as to your train of thought. Also, what do you think of his recent in-thread behavior?

If I am incorrect, I want to hear your argument.

His voting record doesn't make me as suspicious as FZ. I know TH has missed a few votes, but FZ and her votes match up to what is calling Baddie to me. And like I've said, she buddies up to me and SVS and you to try to sway the crowd that she isn't bad as soon and Vomps gets lynched because she knows she's the next suspect to connect Reywas and Vomps to her. I've said it a bunch of times, and I'm going to say it again that the "fake joke" of her and Vomps at the very beginning isn't a joke and she really was being serious. Vomps showed up bad, so why don't you think we shouldn't try her next?

You've said yourself you apparently are a bad civ in finding baddies, so I think when you try to convince me you're right that you aren't on this one MP and that she is bad. I don't see why she isn't worth a try being lynched.

I appreciate your perspective here; I just disagree. Historically, yes, I feel I don't have the best voting record when I'm a civvie, but it doesn't mean I feel I should trust your evaluation of the situation over mine unless I believe yours to be more convincing of a perspective. Don't find it personally if I don't. In this case, I really think we should lynch TH and go from there, since I just am not seeing FZ.'s baddie game now. Yes, her joke was weird, but since then, and especially lately, I'm just not seeing a baddie FZ. I realize I could be wrong, but I just don't think so.

If it's not TH, I'm still tempted to think it's Blooper and not FZ., honestly.

Elohcin wrote:TH has not been posting a lot. What do you all think of this? Turnip Head is the last baddie.

I think there are more reasons than that, but I do think his content is lacking.

nijuukyugou wrote:RIP DP Sorry, dude.

I am also curious why TH isn't on your suspect list, Boogs, and why you are so adamant about FZ being bad? Is it the facade you speak of? Or are we missing something else vital? I'm all ears, but TH is currently the top of my list.

And going with Crosby, Dills, and Nash because I looooooove salmon And cauliflower, if I have to pick.

Why is TH at the top of your list; why do you find him bad?

You said previously he's "hard to read" and seemed to indicate you suspected him in a wishy-washy kind of way, yet you voted for DP.

Boogs, why don't you think TH is bad? Just curious as to your train of thought. Also, what do you think of his recent in-thread behavior?

If I am incorrect, I want to hear your argument.

Re: Are You Being Served? [3:00pm] Boogs, it's not FZ.

Boogs, it's not FZ.

FZ. wrote:I can speak, and I'm mad as hell. What the hell was that? I know that the maintenance were in that vote, hoping to get as many dead people before the game ends. I'm really glad they didn't get Peacock (I hope he wasn't NK)
I don't know for sure if TH is the last baddie, but I feel very strongly about that. I'm leaving for the next 30 hours give or take, but I'll be back then and hopefully we can then finish the job.

MP, did you really miss all those lynches by accident?

I agree.

I did miss them by accident, and I feel terrible about it!! I've truly been the suck for missing all these votes. I can't believe I fell asleep either! Especially since it was only for a few minutes.

Well, I am NOT sleeping through lunch like I did the previous hour! That's for sure! Again, I'm so sorry, Mr. Epig, please don't modkill me!!!

I am voting Curry on Wayward Son because LOL at the title (and I love Kansas), and I also think curry is super awesome.

Elohcin wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:
Elohcin wrote:Voting DP.
Um, why? You haven't said a word about him.
I feel like throwing my vote at anyone other than DP or TH would have been throwing my vote away. I don't suspect TH at all really and I could see what blooper was saying about DP being blendy. I didn't explain all this at the time of my vote b/c I was in a hurry and dealing with a RL situation at the time as well.

Got it, thanks! I just was confused since you never said anything about him before your vote.

I think we should lynch TH tomorrow, unless a reason for someone else comes up that's better. I might be open to Blooper as well. Or maybe someone else. Who knows? But right now I'd say TH.

Man. I can't believe I slept through the end of the hour. WHAT A BUNCH OF CRAP!!!

What the...?!!? The poll ended??? DAMN. I overslept!!!! Sorry, everyone.

Nice job, DP voters.

FZ. wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:
FZ. wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:
FZ. wrote:to the continue Maintenance game want
better more the dead, The
What are you implying?
Peacock to find Need
end before more Lynch
Are you saying they need to find Peacock or that we should?

Do you have people in mind for Maintenance?
They

Maintenance
Has BTSC
Can win with any team, but both Captain Peacock and Mr. Rumbold must be out.

Okay, cool. I figured as much, but wasn't sure if you meant it would be more wise for civvies to lynch Peacock over Maintenance (something I was going to argue with you over

).

FZ. wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:
FZ. wrote:to the continue Maintenance game want
better more the dead, The
What are you implying?
Peacock to find Need
end before more Lynch

Are you saying they need to find Peacock or that we should?

Do you have people in mind for Maintenance?

FZ. wrote:to the continue Maintenence game want
better more the dead, The

What are you implying?

nijuukyugou wrote:
DisgruntledPorcupine wrote:So I read a few peoples' posts. Blooper pings me most of all. FZ or TH seem unlikely to me. But I don't know I don't feel right about Blooper. I'm drowsy and just wanna sleep so yes that's where I'll vote. Hope I'm onto something.
You would not be onto to something, and are wasting your vote. Care to explain yourself?

As for me, my feelings still stand on FZ at this point (not bad). I'm slightly more suspicious of TH than yesterday, but not a lot more. And now, looking back at DP's posts, which appear quite blendy to me (and do not explain his votes at almost any length; he just states the vote as if it's fact every time) makes me wonder. I'm having stronger feelings towards him than TH at this point. At the risk of looking like I have a "no, you!" vote, I'm going with DP.

That's (the bolded) a description of DP's game, regardless of alignment.

Something fishy is going on here. But considering there's only one baddie left, it could be possible a ton of people are just wrong.

Elohcin wrote:Voting DP.

Um, why? You haven't said a word about him.

Woah, I don't know if I like these DP votes. I think he is a civvie this game.

thellama73 wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:
Mongoose wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote: Why did the llama cross the road?
Oh, I got this one, easily.

It's to tell me how wrong I am, correct?
LOL, no. To spread the word of libertarian righteousness!

Good guess though.
Ideally, it would be a private road not paid for by the illegitimate plunder of the state.

But of course!

FZ., I do care, and I am scum hunting. I have been all game. I do realize I have been absent quite a lot, however, especially by my standards. But it by no means has anything to do with my role this game, only my real life schedule.

I also repeated multiple times that I HATE BEING LATE!

Mongoose wrote:I'm so happy y'all had fun!

MovingPictures07 wrote: Why did the llama cross the road?
Oh, I got this one, easily.

It's to tell me how wrong I am, correct?

LOL, no. To spread the word of libertarian righteousness!

Good guess though.

S~V~S wrote:MP, I don't think FZ is bad. I just don't, I don't know that I have been all that successful at reading her, but all the reasons people seem to have for thinking she is bad are things i think are open to interpretation. And i feel that people are interpreting them in the worst possible light, while i have not seen her posts that way at all.

I hope to potentially reread a large part of the thread tonight, especially as it relates to the known Management, and also TH, to see if i can see what FZ sees.

Duly noted, I agree. I just wanted to see what you and others had to say.

For me, it's between TH and Blooper.

Personally, I'm leaning TH. I really don't think FZ. is bad and his most recent post trying to claim that she is reeks of desperation to me.

Mongoose wrote:Why did it?

Did you guys go anywhere fun?

I thought you might be busy!

To get to the laundromat!

We went to Perrysburg, OH, about a little over three hours north. There really isn't anything particularly amazing about the area (like Orlando or anywhere like that), but there's a couple's romantic getaway sort of hotel which was really nice, and we ate at some nice places, checked out a record store in Toledo (super awesome), etc. It was great to just get the alone time. It was so relaxing, exactly what I needed after tax season, just two months delayed!

What do people think of FZ. and TH?

Why did the llama cross the road?

I DO care about this game. A lot. Everything I do has a reason behind it. I do feel bad I've been late for every vote though; it is actually INCREDIBLY uncharacteristic of me. That is for sure.

I was gone Monday through yesterday on a getaway with my girlfriend and besides that I've been pretty busy lately.

So does anyone want to hear a joke?

Why did the sock cross the road?

Re: Are You Being Served? [11:00am] Also I went with brewhaha because of this

Also I went with brewhaha because of this

HOLY SHIT so I missed the vote again but this time it was because well I was driving home and saw this major wreck and I was like wow, check out that crazy car wreck! And I literally stood there for a few hours completely distracted but then I drove away and then I drove past a record store and I was like oh my god a record store so I walked inside and looked around but then the store closed and kicked me out and then I realized I was hungry so I got some food and then some other stuff happened that prevented me from voting.

I won't be late next time, I promise!!!! Sorry, Mr. Epig!

That said, I will be out of town until late Wednesday, so you may or may not see me until then.

So I'm a bit confused.

What is the exact case on Rey?

And why are people voting DP?

Also I won't probably be back until late tonight!

I'm here!!!! Sorry for missing the votes.

RIP Sorsha and RIPIYWG A Person! Guess I wasn't onto something with the Sorsha stuff. Eh.

So who wants to vote for FZ.? :P

Honestly, I'm kidding.

And did Boogs say I have really good reads on people when I'm civ? LOL. Because that's the exact opposite of the truth.

I'm SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO sorry I missed the vote, everyone!!!

My laptop keyboard got DESTROYED. No joke. I need to buy a new one now because some of the letter keys are gone.

I'm at work now, only had to time to pop on real quickly, I'll catch up when I can!!! SO SORRY, EVERYONE!!! MAN, I DROPPED THE BALL ON THIS ONE!!!

FZ. wrote:And I'm also willing to vote for Rey, if someone wants to join me

I would honestly vote Sorsha; she hasn't changed my mind, it's all I really have right now.

I don't have reason to believe Rey is bad yet.

Dom wrote:Hm

What are you thinking? Are you considering a possibility that she was joking?

Mongoose wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:
Mongoose wrote:I believe her in that she was just playing around, so I'll look elsewhere (elefino where though).
You think she sounds genuine? I suppose I would believe it to be more likely if I had actually never seen this happen before.

You don't have any other thoughts about anyone?
I'm not sure if that she sounds sincere as much as it just seemed way more like a joke than a slip. Vomps is especially suspicious with his nonsense talk that I do not usually associate with him.

I re-read it, and yeah, I see what you mean. It's just so weird.

I'll be back later to vote!

Mongoose wrote:I believe her in that she was just playing around, so I'll look elsewhere (elefino where though).

You think she sounds genuine? I suppose I would believe it to be more likely if I had actually never seen this happen before.

You don't have any other thoughts about anyone?

FZ. wrote:This is something I expect people at K-site to wrongly conclude. I thought it could never happen here.
Don't believe me, MP. I'm not used to the colors. But seriously, this kind of pisses me off.

linki@ whatever. One time I try to be sarcastic and it blows up in my face. I hate hate hate, when civs (or those who pretend to be ones) make such stupid mistakes as you are all making, no offense

Look, if you're telling the truth, I'm really sorry, but you might have sunk your own ship here, even if I don't vote for you.

I feel I can read you pretty decently and I just don't think I am getting an honest vibe. I've been wrong before though.

The thing keeping me from voting you is I honestly cannot fathom you EVER making a mistake like that, but I'm not particularly swayed by your responses. I don't know. This is just so weird.

If none of this had happened, I'd still be likely voting Sorsha because I don't understand at all her suspicions of me and Rey and I feel they are not genuine.

Boogs wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:FZ., I'd love to believe you, but I don't think I buy it.
Wow this is the enlightening I mentioned. Lol may switch my vote to FZ or Vomps possibly. Who says that kind of stuff? Lol

It is REALLY weird.

In Spongebob, SoFi outed our entire baddie team by doing something similar -- it was as if she was sending in our PM but she accidentally pasted it into the wrong tab and didn't realize she was posting it in the thread. So it's happened... but it is unlikely.

I just can't fathom another explanation, and FZ.'s response, although appreciated, seems like a very desperate attempt to get herself out of an unintended nasty situation. If she really did mean it as a joke, it sure didn't read that way at all.

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