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I definitely have never posted anything close to this much before. Lol. I would definitely agree with you.keys56000000000 wrote:I don't think I've ever posted 300+ times in a game before. I would imagine this game broke quite a few posting records.
Look, you can talk about Chris's involvement in the game; that's not why I was requoting that. I'm not asking you to act like he doesn't exist. But stop bringing up his banning. What needed to be said about has already been said. I realize you didn't say much about it, but I don't feel it's appropriate to even mention or discuss it any further in this thread, across the board.keys56000000000 wrote:I don't see why people can't talk about Chris' involvement in this game, I mean, he did play a big part. You banned him, that's cool, nothing I can do about that, but I ain't just gonna pretend he didn't exist. Seems like you guys are on a "respect mah authoritah!" trip, y'know? Not gonna lie, I didn't appreciate the "be good, now!" PMs I keep getting here.MovingPictures07 wrote:MovingPictures07 wrote:Let's please not have any other words regarding the Chris matter in this thread. I don't want to further derail any postgame discussion. I understand why you brought it up, keys, and I don't mind letting everything become transparent, but I don't want to cause this discussion to permeate publicly any further when it doesn't need to.
Llama, I appreciate your further clarification, and echo the sentiment, but this goes for us henceforth as well.
Correct, until I got recruited. Then it was decided that, if I were the last one alive of the recruits, I would not regenerate upon death.DFaraday wrote:So to be clear on the Doctor's regeneration: It was unlimited, right? MP, you literally could come back to life an infinite number of times throughout the game?
MovingPictures07 wrote:Let's please not have any other words regarding the Chris matter in this thread. I don't want to further derail any postgame discussion. I understand why you brought it up, keys, and I don't mind letting everything become transparent, but I don't want to cause this discussion to permeate publicly any further when it doesn't need to.
Llama, I appreciate your further clarification, and echo the sentiment, but this goes for us henceforth as well.
Haha, yeah, that was the clincher. You know my thoughts on that aspect of your role, but it was why we pretty much secured a very likely win when you recruited me, IMO.Hedgeowl wrote:Funny story, the recruit would have passed down.Snow Dog wrote:I was thinking of Nking Hedge at the end. But my only chance of a win was a hope of being recruited. If Hedge died, after Dom i was undoubtably the next lynch.MovingPictures07 wrote:It did cause me to panic a bit, but I figured the best way to combat it was an all-out aggressive offense against it, to prove that it was baseless. Seems that it worked.Snow Dog wrote:Which is why my case on her fell on stony ground. She wasn't even phased by my continuous accusations. And neither was MP. In fact he came out all aggresive offense. Remember my scenario post after you came back? Did that not shake you just a bit alex?
If you and Bass had gotten Hedge lynched immediately, that also could have changed some things.
Haha, you can't blame me, can you?Snow Dog wrote:And all that "the recruiter is dead" nonsense going around made me laugh.
I was kind of surprised you folks didn't do it after your accusation didn't stick, but I also realize it would have been way more favorable to get her lynched over NKed.Snow Dog wrote:I was thinking of Nking Hedge at the end. But my only chance of a win was a hope of being recruited. If Hedge died, after Dom i was undoubtably the next lynch.MovingPictures07 wrote:It did cause me to panic a bit, but I figured the best way to combat it was an all-out aggressive offense against it, to prove that it was baseless. Seems that it worked.Snow Dog wrote:Which is why my case on her fell on stony ground. She wasn't even phased by my continuous accusations. And neither was MP. In fact he came out all aggresive offense. Remember my scenario post after you came back? Did that not shake you just a bit alex?
If you and Bass had gotten Hedge lynched immediately, that also could have changed some things.
It did cause me to panic a bit, but I figured the best way to combat it was an all-out aggressive offense against it, to prove that it was baseless. Seems that it worked.Snow Dog wrote:Which is why my case on her fell on stony ground. She wasn't even phased by my continuous accusations. And neither was MP. In fact he came out all aggresive offense. Remember my scenario post after you came back? Did that not shake you just a bit alex?
Hahaha, glad you like it.keys56000000000 wrote:Splints' Bitch. Yeah, that's about right.![]()
To borrow a footbaling term, Hedgeowl is my man-of-the-match. I think she could have rode that performance to a mexican standoff and come out on top. There was literally nothing to quote with which to make a case on. I remember looking at her posts, dumbfounded, thinking she was a genius. Some Walter White shit right there, Hedgeowl, a very well done.
Also Dom was fantastic. He was our hide-in-plain-sight star this game.
zeek wrote:Fair is fair :P This is not the end! A future bet will reverse this!MovingPictures07 wrote:Ranks have been updated.
Hey, not a problem man, I understand. I wasn't listening, you're right.Snow Dog wrote:I have to admit it was a bit tough arguing with you and I'm sorry i lost my temper with you. It seemed you weren't listening to me.MovingPictures07 wrote:Yeah, I figured.Snow Dog wrote:
And MP it was actually true that at the start of the game i felt a bit overwhelmed and was kind of out of practise with mafia.
Turns out you had been and didn't care. :P
Yeah, I figured.Snow Dog wrote:
And MP it was actually true that at the start of the game i felt a bit overwhelmed and was kind of out of practise with mafia.
No way!!!! We suspected Dom as a possibility but in the end were convinced to redirect Dom's kill to you based on the fact that we thought you had checked him.Black Rock wrote:I can't believe I was right about Dom, it was just a complete gut feeling. He was playing such a good game I figured he was protecting a role like that. Dom left nothing to check that I could find.
Can't argue with that!fingersplints wrote:Zeppelin rules is already such a good sighaha
Ah, good counterpoint, but untrue! At the time I made the bet it was actually still totally conjecture. Snowy didn't get recruited until N12 and we didn't have Epig at that time either since we nabbed him after N10.keys56000000000 wrote:I don't think that sigbet was valid, you knew he was bad.
We had The Master narrowed down to like three people, and I felt it also caused chaos and confusion, drawing the thread away from any of us for another cycle. Twofold reasoning.Turnip Head wrote:If Team Recruit actually thought I was The Master, why use the lynch switch on me? You wouldn't have been able to use that to make a case against me, because all the post would say is that no one was lynched, and nobody would have known that it was switched off of Bass.
I found it really interesting how all of the Cybers practically defended or refused to say anything about their teammates. I can't say I've seen something where NO bus throwing at all occurred like that in a while.keys56000000000 wrote:Haha, that's ok. All the evidence pointed to you, I just didn't want to believe it. I underestimated your intelligence and for that I'm sorry. It was only when you asked me not to defend you anymore that I started to doubt myself, started thinking you were feeling sorry for me for being wrong, lol!Snow Dog wrote:Keys i am so sorry I was cyber after you defended me so much. I wanted to be civ so much then.![]()
In the end I'm more pleased than displeased with my instincts. I knew there was something off about Juliets and Gotrees, who seemed to be cruising in the background, unexplained and unchallenged. Hedgeowl, who was playing a perfect, unquestionable game, had to be hiding something. I'm sure I even detected a change in MP, from working with me to humouring me, but I didn't want to believe it, because I considered it impossible. Note to self: make less assumptions, trust instincts more.
Haha, yes!!! The sig and rank bets! How could I forget?zeek wrote:I don't think the civs never had a chance, I just think there was an incredible amount of luck for Hedgeowl to get to the point when the recruitment team became so powerful.
Also, it's actually pretty funny that almost all of the team's roles were not generally known or hinted at in this game, yet we avoided serious suspicion almost completely.
I wanted Snow Dog to be civ so bad me and MP had a rank bet which I was sure I'd lose. And did. Change it, MP, I always keep my bets even if the other person has forgotten!
MovingPictures07 wrote: If you or anyone else wants to discuss this further or has a problem with how I or anyone else handled this situation, IT GOES IN PM. Not here. Let this be made known.
Thank you.
I know, I was so upset when zeek died and he didn't get to use his lynch switch! So it was nice to get to use it, after all... but for evil.zeek wrote:Hi there.Long Con wrote:Where did the lynch switch come from?
For getting all of you to vote Azure the Doctor won a prize to give to another player. That prize was a lynch switch and I was that player. When I was rezzed, my prize was too. We wanted everyone wasting time so we could stay secret.
Let's make this clear. I had no intention of muddling up the postgame discussion with a discussion of this, but since you have brought it up here, I will address this.keys56000000000 wrote:I hear there has been some nastiness behind the scenes and that Chris has been subsequently banned? I don't know what's been said and I'm not condoning anything here, but I do want to say that I for one can appreciate the frustration he must feel. He put so much of his time and energy into something he believed he had a genuine shot at winning. And, y'know, he was laughed at, ridiculed, someone even called him retarded. So how about unbanning him and forgetting the whole thing?
He then responded with an outlandish response, again badmouthing me and the administration/moderation team, accompanied with a picture of Jesus flipping us off.MovingPictures07 wrote:There is one overarching sentiment at this community and that is to treat your fellow players, as well as the hosts, with respect. Any adult should be able to play a game, have fun, and accomplish this task, within reason. No adult, however, is infallible, and there are occasions where some may fail to do this.
At multiple instances throughout this game, you failed to do this.
It isn’t a matter of offense. Whether someone takes offense to something or not is not the issue. Instead, the issue is one of respect. One can still play a mafia game to one’s utmost ability and still express this general decency towards other human beings in the process.
It is possible that one become disillusioned and accidentally cross a line of inappropriate behavior. This is understandable. Mafia is an emotional game. RL plus mafia can be stressful. But the saving grace for someone in this position is whether they recognize their behavior and consequently:
1) Recognize the proper authority. This is not to say anyone is infallible. No one has claimed to be, and no human being can possibly be such. However, the hosts run the game. The Mod on Duty assists the hosts in running the game. They are there to listen, as a mediator. If you have a problem with something, talk to them. If you have a problem with them, talk to the hosts. Any issue should be able to be adequately solved in this fashion. If not, save your complaint for post-game, and express it in a manner that is respectful to the hosts. Hosts dedicate an enormous amount of time to hosting their game. They always deserve respect, even if one disagrees completely with a position they have taken.
2) Consider how another player may feel through your behavior. One may argue that any particular individual can cry “offense!” at any stated sentence, and that would be correct. However, if one’s own behavior has been questioned, then one must ask him or herself: Have I behaved in a fashion that any reasonable person would believe to be in the spirit of respect and in the spirit of the game?
3) On that note, creating a hostile posting environment where players are universally afraid to express themselves, not due to the fact that they can’t “handle mafia” but due to the fact that they believe they have been treated with disrespect, is unacceptable. One must consider what kind of environment one is contributing through his or her posts. There is certainly a way to be aggressive without being disrespectful. What is most key here is again, not an issue of “offense”, but asking one’s self: am I allowing others the same right to play the game to their fullest ability that I myself would want as well?
4) Use the proper channels for “emotional dumping”. This is what PMs to the hosts and, more particularly, the Mod on Duty are for. The thread is not one’s emotional punching bag, a hostage to be taken at the expense of others. People go to the thread to play the game, not to hear about someone whining regarding this and that, or to witness someone continuously conducting him or herself with disrespect towards other individuals.
You have acted throughout this game on more than one occasion where you have blatantly not considered a single one of these.
No one is criticizing your playstyle. No one is censoring you. No one is unfairly blaming you because you are not part of a “clique”. You are not being sent this PM because I or anyone else dislikes you. In fact, I appreciated the passion you brought to the game, and I seem to recall bea saying the same. These are all absolutely untrue. Every player here is given a fair chance to prove himself. You have been warned repeatedly regarding your behavior. It would be determined that any reasonable person would find that you have engaged others with a pattern of disrespect. You are not the victim of anyone but only of your own actions.
You may continue to play here if you wish, but I wanted to inform you that your current status is that you are on the absolute thinnest ice possible. Absolutely any blatantly disrespectful action you make hereafter, whether in the current post-game discussion in the Doctor Who thread, or any other game, will be subject to discipline, of which will be incredibly likely the swift swinging of the ban hammer. Not only has bea warned you about your behavior this game, so has Llama, and so have I, and you have been given every chance to back off from intentionally disrespectful behavior.
I hate writing this, but you've left me no choice after the way Doctor Who has progressed. You will begin to treat others with respect or you will be removed forcefully from this community.
Haha, he did indeed!Gotrees wrote:I think he actually started saying that even before we had recruited him.Long Con wrote:Too many recruits, too much freedom of recruiting. I figured when Epig was saying the Civs had no chance that he was speaking from a behind-the-scenes perspective, and that this end is what he meant.
Also, sorry about this. Wasn't intending to spread negativity, and I would have withheld some of my commentary if I knew that's what you preferred.bea wrote: I do welcome any feeback that anyone has in terms of the game, but please PM it to me and teefies rather than critize in the thread.Thank you all of you for playing so hard and having so much fun!
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Very true.Dom wrote:had you guys not redirected the kill from me... we might have had a bit of a different endgame
That was zeek, but it was my idea.Turnip Head wrote:Laaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaame!
Lame that the civs didn't win, anyway. This was an AWESOME game Bea and BWT, I had a great time in both my roles. I loved how talkative this game was.
Grats winners, can't wait to see how it all went down.
(Who fucking got me lynched?!?!?!)
Indeed! But I think the numbers are in our favor, and I can't see why either Strax or Cybers would target anyone other than Dom tonight. That being said, I suppose Cybers could want to waste a lynch, though, so we may see a civvie get NKed tonight.DFaraday wrote:I move that the hosts create a special banner for Dom after the game, because he honestly did nothing wrong this game.![]()
And I hope you're right about us getting close to a win, MP, but we've still got a few more kills to get through before that.