The Syndicate

Aaaaaaaaagh. Well played, mafia team. We just couldn't get town on the right same page for any length of time. malakim, Sloonei, Jay, and Simon all seemed genuine to me at various points in the game for way longer than you all should have otherwise. Well deserved for sure.

A wonderful return game, Epi, so thank you, and thanks to all of the rest of the thread for dealing with my insane and, as usual, wrong posts.

Thanks for the game, Epi, it was a great way to end the hiatus.

I'm too busy spending time with BWT to give a shit -- I haven't seen my best friend in ages and I'm not wasting hours of valuable time I could spend with him defending myself. My legacy reads are basically my rainbow as posted last. Dig through my ISO and hopefully some observation I made at some point will assist in catching scum. Sorry town, I tried my best.

I want to lynch Blooper, so I'm voting there.

nijuukyugou wrote: ↑Fri Sep 01, 2017 3:56 pm

MovingPictures07 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 01, 2017 1:09 am Random thoughts that will have to be proven or disproven by analysis:

- Jay is almost certainly cleared of being mafia the way he went after Sloonei while he was in the game. Having been a baddie with Jay I cannot see him applying so much heat to his teammate when unnecessary on Day 1.

Clearly (and conveniently), you do not recall Transistor. This is way too bold of a statement for JJJ's play.

Jay didn't bus me on day 1. It took ages for him to turn on me.

No scum person would relentlessly build articulation son me like this.

Blooper is going at me in the most halfassed manner possible, she has no spark.

Diiny wrote: ↑Fri Sep 01, 2017 3:32 pm

MovingPictures07 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 27, 2017 1:40 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sun Aug 27, 2017 1:15 pm I'm gonna have to vote for Sloonei.

??

MovingPictures07 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 27, 2017 12:25 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2017 10:36 pm Sup Din and Dun. What's your story?

Tempted to vote Sloonei for the alien comment.

Do we think the day one poll did anything? Power up Ryu maybe?

I'm not convinced it did anything. Hard to say though.

Why exactly are you tempted to vote Sloonei?

Two bullshit votes based on nothing come on sloonei early in the game. Tell me these don't look like the posts of a shaken sloonei teammate, keen to keep distance but also defend his fellow scumster.

There is no way you are bad. At least my flip will clear you.

Diiny wrote: ↑Fri Sep 01, 2017 3:20 pm Mpf. I don't think sloonei would bus elo or blooper. that's enough that I won't feel too bad neglecting them to look at MP's ridiculously huge ph.

Why don't you think he would?

I agree with you re: Elo, not sure about Blooper but maybe I'm just wrong about her.

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Sep 01, 2017 3:13 pm

Diiny wrote: ↑Fri Sep 01, 2017 2:48 pm alright, lemme iso you quick with that in mind.

also lmao I had to check if that last bit was real, incredible

Ideally, it will mean that MP is actually bad.

Too bad for you, you will actually have to answer for the egg on your face due to doing literally anything all game to half heartedly go after me. I'm convinced you and Dom wear mafia colored glasses every game we play together anymore.

Diiny wrote: ↑Fri Sep 01, 2017 2:58 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Fri Sep 01, 2017 2:22 pm

Diiny wrote: ↑Fri Sep 01, 2017 2:08 pm MP is scum. I can smell it like i smelled it on sloon. I'n coming for you.

Y'know, I think I might agree with you.

I still want this substantiated, unless you're just agreeing with my post on how Sloon interacted with MP.

tbh I think you should substantiate; why is mp's interaction with sloon telling?

This is why Diiny is town.

Speedchuck I'm not so sure about, but still GTH would call him town.

Diiny wrote: ↑Fri Sep 01, 2017 2:56 pm Also this just sprang to mind- sloonei and mp have both been going for a very similar HEY DIINY PLEASE SUSBSTANTIATE YOUR READS approach when I was inactive for a bit. Both weirdly milquetoast but stressed iirc.

I am not Sloonei, and my meta is not his

Diiny wrote: ↑Fri Sep 01, 2017 2:54 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Fri Sep 01, 2017 2:22 pm

Diiny wrote: ↑Fri Sep 01, 2017 2:08 pm MP is scum. I can smell it like i smelled it on sloon. I'n coming for you.

Y'know, I think I might agree with you.

I still want this substantiated, unless you're just agreeing with my post on how Sloon interacted with MP.

Probably going to take multiple posts of evidence. Comes down to my problems with his day 1 timidness, wishy washiness in general (and especially near the deadline), relationship with the sloon (also from MP's perspective, I believe he put sloon right in the middle of his rainbow - often very much fellow scumster valley) and all of these factors combine with my renewed confidence after this lynch result in the gut part of my reads which helped me decide sloonei was scum.

linki- like socks. 4 of em.

Okay, that was a good one.

Diiny wrote: ↑Fri Sep 01, 2017 11:39 am MP's next tbh. When I get off work and have my run I'll splurge out all my takes on people's interactions w/ the sloonmeister in case i cop it tonight.

I'll be expecting that apology.

No rainbow but I would say Jay is strong town

LC and Elo are moderate town

Speedchuck, Diiny and DF are slight town, though I'm super paranoid of Diiny

DrWilgy and Simon are just a giant ??? for me at this juncture, neutral or slight mafia I guess if I had to pick -- we really need to sort these two

Malakim at slight mafia

Blooper at moderate mafia

But that's before investigating anything. Do some awesome work, town, we got this.

Random thoughts that will have to be proven or disproven by analysis:

- Jay is almost certainly cleared of being mafia the way he went after Sloonei while he was in the game. Having been a baddie with Jay I cannot see him applying so much heat to his teammate when unnecessary on Day 1.

- didn't Sloonei prefer an Elo lynch to Blooper? I would gander that Elo looks better and Blooper looks worse as a result. But someone double check me here.

- Diiny would have to be busser/distancer extraordinaire if he is a Sloonei teammate, yeah? Although he fact that he left behind a Sloonei vote today despite arguing vehemently for it would actually lend credence to distancing IMO. Tough call, I would say probably unlikely but distinct possibility -- if Diiny is bad then damn props, but at the same time, off the top of my head if I had to name just one baddie who did distance from sloonei I would bet on it to be Diiny.

Thank god we have a flip, there's a gold mine just waiting to be uncovered. Let's do this town.

Wow, incredible! That's crazy. Nice job LC and whoever caused that wackiness.

I'm going to be even more swamped and completely on phone the next few days so someone or multiple people should dig into teammate interactions. I'll do what I can too but phone mafiaing sucks (not sure how those of you who do it often rock it).

Elo what are your reads ATM?

[mention]Elohcin[/mention]

Lol, I hope you didn't take offense, none was intended I assure you.

LC, can you provide a rainbow or at least a read[s list of some sort? I'm not sure where your head is at?

[mention]Long Con[/mention]

thanks

I'm contemplating the options though. This lynch is critical.

I honestly feel like the Elo vote is a mistake, as someone who's mislynched her before I have all kinds of bad feelings about this. I'm moving my vote to Blooper for now.

Why do you all keep spreading the vote? That's not ideal.

nijuukyugou wrote: ↑Thu Aug 31, 2017 7:24 pm

MovingPictures07 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 31, 2017 6:48 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Aug 31, 2017 5:32 pm

MovingPictures07 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 31, 2017 12:46 pm Random thought:

If either Elo or Blooper is bad, GTH I would say Blooper.

Why? I'd go in the opposite direction.

Well,' I can never read Elo for shit but even though I thought she was lying to me at first when interacting with her in real time EoD d3 I eventually came around and the combinationof her weird Blooper suspicion, her thoughts re: giving up, etc seemed more genuine than not. I'm listeningthpugh, I'm wavering on it honestly, even if I still would barely call her more town than not right now.

I'm at dinner right now, I'll be very limited basically I'll probably not be able to catch up.

This is the sort of waffly stuff you've been repeating (especially regarding Eloh) that makes me suspect you. But that's also somewhat dependent on her alignment.

It's a true statement. I have a notoriously bad record at reading Elo, and I feel it's important that you all know that because it's integral to my read -- if I wasn't considering meta at all I would have likely lynched her yesterday. She says the weirdest shit and ive lynched her over it too many times to count.

Diiny wrote: ↑Thu Aug 31, 2017 5:34 pm MP brought the fire when he responded to me barging into the thread at (my) lunchtime, and it made me feel a tad better about him. Makes his politeness with comments like "I appreciate you trying to initiate discussion" stand out and seem a tad forced and relationship-maintainy. Maybe you're just polite.

Still a long way to go before he's off the hook for his day 1 in my books, though.

It's just me trying to keep the game and community positive -- because mafia is based on deception and the internet aggravates any potential miscommunications, it's important to maintain a certain level of civility and appreciation, at least IMO.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Aug 31, 2017 5:32 pm

MovingPictures07 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 31, 2017 12:46 pm Random thought:

If either Elo or Blooper is bad, GTH I would say Blooper.

Why? I'd go in the opposite direction.

Well,' I can never read Elo for shit but even though I thought she was lying to me at first when interacting with her in real time EoD d3 I eventually came around and the combinationof her weird Blooper suspicion, her thoughts re: giving up, etc seemed more genuine than not. I'm listeningthpugh, I'm wavering on it honestly, even if I still would barely call her more town than not right now.

I'm at dinner right now, I'll be very limited basically I'll probably not be able to catch up.

BBL, won't even be phone posting for at least a few hours. Please continue to say things people!

[mention]Sloonei[/mention], my man, I'm surprised to not see a rainbow from you. You got a rainbow for me?

Another random thought:

I'm trying to keep open minded at this point especially given how colossally wrong I was about Dom.

I think this is worth stressing that all of us should analyze and thoroughly consider literally every other player for our vote as much as we can before we start eliminating some from consideration.

I am moving my vote to Wilgy for now so he says more things. We have too many players ATM not providing any reads. Come on Wilgy, join the game and make some reads with us!

[mention]DrWilgy[/mention]

Speedchuck I appreciate your ISO of Malakim -- he is someone I wanted to look at yesterday but didn't get around to. I feel like I could go either way on him ATM but I would still say he seems town. I'd put him as a slight town read and I'm not jumping to lynch him but I'm listening.

Speedchuck I'm also a bit confused where you're comingf from because some of your proposed lynches off the top of my head seem inconsistent wth your previously expressed reads.

Random thought:

If either Elo or Blooper is bad, GTH I would say Blooper.

Alright, have to go, my activity will be really spotty, but I'll definitely try to phonepost whenever I can.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Aug 31, 2017 9:26 am Im here. Someone catch me up.

Hello good sir!

I'm terrible at this stuff even when I'm not on phone with very limited time but I'll try.

D1 was close but we lynched Bass for being a no show
D2 was also close but we lynched Dom for, well I had a huge argument with him that you can find in my ISO

N1 JOH was killed and he was going after Elo the most
N2 dunya was killed I presume because she was pretty much seen as town

I suggest you just read backwards maybe or from D2 onward in the interest of time? Or better yet just interact with whoever is inthe thread for reads, but as much as I would for that to be me unfortunately I have to go ATM. But I'm sure you can work out some reads and catch up -- Whatever works best for you.

Diiny wrote: ↑Thu Aug 31, 2017 9:06 am
I'm thinking elo and blooper can't both be scum, as they don't strike me as the kind of people that would feign mutual scum reads. Hmf,

I would tentatively agree with this, but also caution that I haven't really seen any behavior from either of them that I would characterize as too aggressive for bussing/distancing.

Diiny wrote: ↑Thu Aug 31, 2017 8:08 am oh god I forgot about sloonei. I need to iso him again too.

this is a call to all players: I want your THOUGHTS. I want your READS. I want your GUT READS and your HEAD READS and your READING FESTIVAL TICKETS.

This is great and all but YOU also have concerns to answer for. I posted an ISO on you that no one has said anything about -- and it's unclear where your reads have been progressing for most of the game despite your aggressive rhetoric. If there's any 'supatown' mafia player this game I'm afraid it's you for that reason, but I'd like to think that's just tinfoil. So when you get a chance if you can better explain how you've been developing reads through your lines of questioning as I observed in my ISO that'd be great.

Diiny wrote: ↑Thu Aug 31, 2017 8:03 am MP does it not worry you that there is a clear rivalry of mutual scum reads between elo and blooper, elo was saved from the chop out of the blue by dfaraday, and now you're voting for blooper?

No, I hadn't thought of that actually, that's a good point. My vote is really a pressure vote anyway, I'm not sure what I'll do with it quite yet.

I appreciate your efforts to ramp up the discussion, so thanks.

Diiny wrote: ↑Thu Aug 31, 2017 7:53 am

MovingPictures07 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 29, 2017 10:42 pm blargadm;laddisaifmmsfsaf

FUCK

I give up.

If you're not scum after making this post I will personally write you a full letter of apology.

You better start writing it.

Diiny wrote: ↑Thu Aug 31, 2017 7:52 am I'm going to have to ask for meta on elo.

She's doing a ton of her reading based on very transient things. nap length. personality fluctuations. she's spending a lot of time on emotional posts about how she's busy and shouldn't be playing two mafia games and how she 'knew it was over' at one point, to the point where it seems like she's trying to use it to guilt/persuade us that she's town instead of merely explaining her lack of content.

We all get busy, and it sucks, and it's completely excusable. But imo someone interested in scumhunting excuses themselves, catches up and proves they're town by scumhunting, not by delving further into their own situation and playing defensively. Again, though, some people play mafia differently, and I'll consider letting off if this is simply the elo, town OR scum, that you know, regulars.

That's pretty much Elo. Either alignment. I can't ever make sense of it; I've probably mislynched her more than anyone, even Dom, so I just try to tell whether she's contradicting herself or whether what she's saying sounds disingenuous.

When YOU get the chance. Sorry phone postingnwilk inevitably result in typos.

Also I didn't "bus" Elo because I'm not scum, but nice try.

I would like you to respond to my ISO when I get the chance, Diiny.

Diiny wrote: ↑Thu Aug 31, 2017 7:38 am you almost had the balls to bus elo, MP. Almost. I don't see why you came off of elo, who you had a decently scummy vibe from, on the basis of her main defence being 'I'm busy'.

I await your clarifications re: my supposed scummy behavior, but my presence will be limited so I'll respond however I can.

Regarding this post, Elo is a difficult player to read because she never makes sense to me (no offense intended, Elo, we just come to conclusions very differently), so I grilled her to see if I believed her. I wasn't sure for a while but in the end her spark seemed genuine. Maybe I made the wrong call but I think I didn't.

Also, LC, surely you have some other reads by this point. If you don't, try doing some investigative work. It's Day 3; you should have something else to give.

Everyone should be posting reads/rainbows if they haven't. We need more discussion.

Okay, now

Putting on a vote on Blooper to start because I need to know her reads.

Ugh, RIP dunya, was really enjoying playing with you for the first time.

Guess I'm not silenced because I'm doing such a bang-up job catching scum. I will only be around briefly in the morning; I'll have to check in via phone closer to deadline. It'll be a tough cycle for me.

Elohcin wrote: ↑Wed Aug 30, 2017 9:27 pm I already stated that I believe at least one pwrson from the other site (new-to-the syndicate) is probably mafia. Seeing as a new-to-us member has now been killed so early, it only reinforces this theory. Syndicaters havw nwvee been very comfortable with killing of new people this quickly.

I know diiny is new. Is malak also from the other mafia site and playing here for the first time?

Why would you think this exactly?

I'm still exhausted from this game and otherwise very busy today anyway. I'll be around a bit tomorrow morning Central time (again, assuming not silenced, so if I don't post know for a fact that that's why). Company (specifically, BWT) will be here starting mid-day, so between balancing him visiting and still working a bit here and there, I'll be much less present for the foreseeable duration. I'll do what I can, but expect a massive dropoff.

Elohcin wrote: ↑Tue Aug 29, 2017 10:42 pm Is that good or bad...i don't know these characters?

I wasn't totally sure myself, so I copied the post image (https://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/st ... /[b]Deejay[/b]-hurt.gif/revision/latest?cb=20140419141953), but it appears to be Dee Jay based on the URL -- who is a townie.

I have a ton to do, but I also just need a break after that. Ugh. See you all whenever.

blargadm;laddisaifmmsfsaf

FUCK

I give up.

F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5

God I hope I'm right.

Less than 10 minutes to go and 8 votes. I'm assuming we aren't getting any additional ones.