The Syndicate

Anonymous offers for Electric Company have been requested. If you would like to put in an offer to buy the property, please PM me and I will pass it along.

juliets wrote:I love you boo!

I know.

Just a reminder moving the post back, so it will be going up at 10pm EST, you have until 9:50 to put bids in and please try and have PMs in asap.

fingersplints wrote:

Long Con wrote:Wow, Splintsy. Wow.

Yes. I can thank my wonderful husband for that. I even outbid myself once there in the craziness of trying to win that

Another good result. BIH Penn. Railroad Bye hedgie

boo, is there any way we can know who else is being replaced still?
I'm thinking maybe Ash. or SD

Here's my thinking on it: I have an event I would like to do for the only resurrects that will be in the game. That means I need dead players who actually have an interest in coming back, which means if we keep bringing in dead players to fill replacements, it just won't happen, and (if we're not already there) we're quickly reaching the point where it just isn't feasible to expect a new player to be able to come in and really catch up and get into the game. So, I am considering for players who want to be replaced now and in the future to just be pseudo-killed off, with their properties going up for auction. My problem there is disadvantaging their potential teammates if it's a public auction, which makes me lean towards wanting to do this, but having those bids be private, and perhaps a bonus to teammates of the people leaving the game to give them a better chance of remaining competitive in the game.

I'm open to discussion on this, but at this point it's the best solution I can come up with.

In the short-term though, my preference would be to not name the people who want to be replaced since in my hosting view, a person isn't out of the game until their actually out of the game, and discussing things like who wants to be replaced changes how people may play things, which is a level of influence I prefer to avoid (although given this scenario I suppose that's kind of a lose/lose situation going on).

PMs for the powers will start going out soon. The 5 votes is slightly harder because order they came in matters with later ones at the same amount not trumping previous ones. I think I have it correct but I want to double check first.

Day 4 End/Night 4 Start: Lynch and Hedgeowl



“Snake eyes, bitches!”

*voters roll eyes*

Hedgeowl gets upset and demands money from everyone.

The game descends into anarchy.

Someone flips over the board.

It gets blamed on Hedgeowl and the mob kills her.

Hedgeowl has been lynched. She was Pennsylvania Railroad. Thanks for playing hedgeowl!

It is now Night 4.
You have 22 hours to get PMs in.

Pennsylvania Railroad, Short Line, and Park Place are now all up for auction. They all start at $1, bids must increase by $1 from the previous bid (hedgeowl voters get +$200 to any bid they make).

We are still in need of replacements. If anyone is interested please PM me.

Long Con wrote:bidding is over, 12:06 bids do not count, right?

12:06 was the last minute they counted.

juliets wrote:boo: if you have found your partners can one of your partners build a house(s) on your property OR give you the money to build a house(s) on your property?

Only the person who has the property is allowed to build on it. Partners aren't allowed to just give other partners money (they are allowed to trade things between each other though).

Turnip Head wrote:It's also possible that BWT gave his auction win item to his partner, and THAT person has the Electric Company.

@boo: If you have the highest bid on a power, but you're lynched the same Day that the auction ends, do you still win the auction?

Yes.

S~V~S wrote:@boo~ Was this a one use protection, or is it a nightly/daily power? It reads like a one time use to me, but better safe than sorry, because it really could be read either way I guess.

3rd) Protect (Can be used to protect a person of your choice at night if you pick during a day, and remove a person of your choice from being on the lynch poll if used at night) - $50 start

If it is a one time use, then I doubt TH would have used it at this point.

One time use.

S~V~S wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Or, there's this.

boo wrote:Night 1 Event: I have a list of 24 powers currently (there are some more that are locked up because I'm RNGing everything and don't want them to be able to get listed yet). You may PM a power description you think is one of the 24 that is not 1 of the three already confirmed (or protect/roleblock), and if you're right, you will get 1 extra vote you may send in during any lynch. If you submit one that is not on the list but I like enough to put onto the list, you get 2 any time votes.

And...he's been auctioning them off. Publicly. Lets clarify this point.

@boo~ Are these 24 powers just being given out behind the scenes, or are they the ones being auctioned?

They're the ones being auctioned.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:boo, when do the small random powers go out to players?

I bet I didn't get one...

They went out during the night or start of day.

Night 3 End/Day 4 Start: Seven

Hedgeowl: Wait, I thought all you did was kill innocent people.
B. & O. Railroad: Innocent? Is that supposed to be funny? An obese man... a disgusting man who could barely stand up; a man who if you saw him on the street, you'd point him out to your friends so that they could join you in mocking him; a man, who if you saw him while you were eating, you wouldn't be able to finish your meal. After him, I picked the lawyer and I know you both must have been secretly thanking me for that one. This is a man who dedicated his life to punishing people who make money by lying with every breath that they can muster to keeping murderers and rapists on the streets.
Hedgeowl: Murderers?
B. & O. Railroad: A woman...
Hedgeowl: Murderers, B. & O., like yourself?
B. & O. Railroad: [interrupts] A woman... so ugly on the inside she couldn't bear to go on living if she couldn't be beautiful on the outside. A drug dealer, a drug dealing pederast, actually! And let's not forget the disease-spreading whore! Only in a world this shitty could you even try to say these were innocent people and keep a straight face. But that's the point. We see a deadly sin on every street corner, in every home, and we tolerate it. We tolerate it because it's common, it's trivial. We tolerate it morning, noon, and night. Well, not anymore. I'm setting the example. What I've done is going to be puzzled over and studied and followed... forever.

And then there’s a box that makes Hedgeowl angry and they fight. And B. & O., losing, manages to run away.

No one has been killed.
It is now Day 4. You have 48 hours to lynch someone.

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Powers for auction:
1st) Risky Investment (Allows the player who uses it to invest any amount of money they want. At the end of each Day+Night phase, they will either lose the invested money (5% chance, +2% after each successful return), or get 7%-20% of the invested money. Cannot withdraw the invested money unless they’ve been returned an equal or greater amount of the original investment). - Starts at $100
2nd) 5 Votes (5 votes you send in via PM. Do not all have to be used in the same lynch. When this power is auctioned, 3 are available, 3 highest bids each get 1). - Start at $75. Please note, you can only get 1 of the 3, they are three different auctions, just the 3 highest different players each get 1.
3rd) Lock In (Allows the player who uses this power to make all votes cast in a lynch unable to be moved in two lynches of their choice. Other players will not know this power has been used until voting. Players who vote and then realize it can tell the rest of the thread, but the player who plays this power then gets $100 from the person who states it in the thread and $10 per vote on the person who gets lynched in that lynch from the bank) - Starts at $200
4th) Deflect (Deflect all night actions done to a player of your choice to another player at random, if you spent less than $200 on the the power, or to a player of your choice if you spent $201 or more on the power) - Starts at $50
5th) Epigfier (If you obtain this role, you may force one player to not use the letter S for a single day period. If they break the rule once, they are warned. If they break it a second time, they lose any vote (including modification) for that day period. Any additional infraction will result in a loss of $50 per post that will be rewarded to the Epigfier) - Starts at $50
6th) Mutually Assured Survival/Destruction (This power lets you and all current BTSC teammates combine all of your current and future money into a single amount when used. If combined you ever fall below $0, you all die) - Starts at $100
7th) Rob a player (Allows the player who uses it to attempt to rob another player. They can get money, a power if the other player is holding one, or get sent to jail) - Starts at $10

Black Rock has replaced Elohcin. She cannot be killed tonight or lynched tomorrow. Thanks for playing Eloh, welcome back BR.

Still need 1 replacement as well.

Boogs wrote:

boo wrote:

Boogs wrote:Wow! Awesome! I am weary of bidding for the card, but i suppose i will. $10 on Electric Company

Boo- I dont see the bonus for people voting BWT in the auction? Also, TH bid on something yet I see no powers up for bid. Confused.

At this point I figure people know if they vote for the person lynched they get the $200 bonus. There was a power that was not bid on by anyone during the day period, when that happens they go up for sale and people can place the bid and then anyone else has 30 minutes to put in an increased offer or the person gets it.

New powers should be up for this night period like usual though, right? I forget if we do this now or during the lynch Day.

No, property is the night auction (Electric Company right now), powers go up during the day.

Boogs wrote:Wow! Awesome! I am weary of bidding for the card, but i suppose i will. $10 on Electric Company

Boo- I dont see the bonus for people voting BWT in the auction? Also, TH bid on something yet I see no powers up for bid. Confused.

At this point I figure people know if they vote for the person lynched they get the $200 bonus. There was a power that was not bid on by anyone during the day period, when that happens they go up for sale and people can place the bid and then anyone else has 30 minutes to put in an increased offer or the person gets it.

S~V~S wrote:Yay you guys who voted BWT !

Welcome Bea

So the second Electric is now an SK, essentially. @boo~ will we be told if a team is eliminated (even by NK) and what happens to the kill if it is eliminated? This is pretty standard stuff, but we have some unusual mechanics, and a two person baddie team, so it can't hurt to ask.

And Metalmarsh, this also got my eye from you~ you said it while I was dead, and at the time I was surprised when no one really noticed it. I had forgotten it until I saw it again in a multiquote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Long Con wrote:Of course, I'd just like to say right now (for any murderous, property-hungry baddies that are reading) that if I ever win the bid for a property, it will IMMEDIATELY be put up for private trade, and be gone from my possession before the next night kill lands.

What if I don't believe you?

What LC said here was addressed to baddies, and you replied to it. I thought that was weird.

@LoRab~ I am older than you, and it flew right over my head. So

No you won't be told. The kill can go a few different ways.

Bea has replaced Mongoose. Thanks for playing Mongoose, welcome to the game bea. Bea cannot be NKed tonight or lynched D4.

Day 3 End/Night 3 Start: Get Hyped



BWT: You would reject this gift?
Epi: *snarls at BWT*
BWT: And did you bring these mongrels here *waves a hand towards Metalmarsh89, thellama73, HannaK, Spacedaisy, juliets, LoRab, Long Con, fingersplints, Hedgeowl, and Turnip Head*, just to watch you die?
Epi: *stares down BWT*
Explosions start. Epi buries an axe in BWT’s head. And then Epi’s time-travelling not-son pushes him out of the way of getting incinerated.

BWT has been lynched. He was Electric Company. Thanks for playing!
It is now Night 3. You have 24 hours to get PMs in.
Electric Company is up for auction. Bidding starts at $1 and must increase by $1 over the previous bid. Bidding will end at midnight tomorrow (will be rolling back the time over the weekend probably for posts).

In need of another replacement, if anyone is interested please let me know. Thanks.

juliets wrote:boo: since the last post was around 12:07 am I'm asking you to consider moving our next post back to that 10:00 pm time frame. A lot goes on at the last minute and the later the time gets on the posts the more of us that will not be there. If anyone objects to this please speak up.

It will happen at some point soon, I'm not sure if it will be this phase or not though. I'll let people know ahead of time though so they can prepare for bidding and what not accordingly.

Night 2 End/Day 3 Start: Death Punched



Black Rock has been killed by Water Works. Thanks for playing BR.
It is now Day 3. You have 48 hours to lynch someone.

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Powers on Auction:
1st) Win an auction (Allows the player who uses it to place a bid in an auction and then end the auction immediately in order to win it) - Starts at $250
2nd) 3 Double Search (Allows the player to search a second player the night they use it) - Starts at $50
3rd) Proximity Check (When used, it will tell you if you have a teammate within three squares in either direction) - Starts at $100

Sorry everyone, was having internet issues when I got home so had to get that sorted out. The post will be a little while because I still have to do rolls and check a bunch of PMs.

S~V~S has replaced sabie12. Welcome back SVS, thanks for playing sabie. She cannot be killed tonight or lynched D3.

juliets wrote:I thought it was a rule that it cut off 10 minutes before the lynch end.

boo: isn't there a rule that the bidding for the powers cuts off 10 minutes before the lynch end? If not, when does it cut off?

And therein, Epi, lies the problem.

Yes, bidding ended at 9:59 EST. Posts on the minute go through, any from 10 or after came in past the cut off.

I am sure I forgot things but I believe everything important is out (if you won a bid you got a PM and the post is up at least), and if not, it can wait 20 minutes while I finally eat and watch brooklyn nine-nine.

Also, Sabie has requested a replacement. I will send PMs to people who may be interested when I get back on, but if anyone who would like to sees this before I do that, I'll do it first come first serve so feel free to PM me.

Day 2 End/Night 2 Start: Why So Socialist?

FZ: Targeting me might get their money back. I knew the lynch mob wouldn't go down without a fight, but this is different. They crossed the line.

FZ’s Butler: You crossed the line first, madam. You squeezed them, you hammered them to the point of desperation. And in their desperation, they turned into mob.

FZ: Ugh, the mob is so complicated, not-Alfred. How will I figure out what their after?

FZ’s Butler: With respect Master FZ, perhaps this is a mob that you don't fully understand, either. A long time ago, I was in Burma. My friends and I were working for the local government. They were trying to spread the wealth by giving tribal leaders precious stones to share with their communities. But their caravans were being raided in a forest north of Rangoon by a group of bankers. So, we went looking for the stones. But in six months, we never met anybody who traded with them. One day, I saw a child playing with a ruby the size of a tangerine. The bankers came over, yelled at the child, took the ruby back, and ran away.

FZ: So why steal them, if not to spread the wealth?

FZ’s Butler: Well, because they were greedy. Because some men aren't looking for anything logical, like giving others precious gems. They can be bought, bullied, reasoned, or negotiated with. Some men just don’t want to watch the world burn.

FZ has been lynched. She was Atlantic Avenue. Thanks for playing!
It is now Night 2. You have 24 hours to get PMs in.
Atlantic Avenue is up for auction. Bidding starts at $1 and new bid must increase by at least $1. If you voted for FZ, you get $200 added to your bid.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Question: If you wish to bid on something, and have an added bonus that isn't shown. Can you bid under someone (with your first bid) with that knowledge, or does your public bid have to trump the current leader?

Your bid has to be over the public highest bid.

@Boogs: Keeping track of the bids is something I'm leaving up to people who want to make bids (but yes, it is now over).

Wow you people post a lot, lets try and force this through so I can get to the night post.

Boogs wrote:Also Boo: Can we not switch votes this lynch btw? I know there was some of that last day vote with scrambling going on.

Just post in thread if you do again. MP is back so hopefully we can get it sorted out for D3.

birdwithteeth11 wrote:

FZ. wrote:

Long Con wrote:

FZ. wrote:I just saw that I stepped on the baddies property. Great, they get $240 for 3 people stepping on...

Yeah... by my spreadsheet, Electric Company is up $480. The second biggest net earner is Metalmarsh at +$200. So if MM is Electric Company he's so rich!

Epig seems to be down the most, at -$500, from his big bid on the Chance card (will you let us know when you use it, Ep? Are you using it yourself or someone else? Is it Chance or Community Chest that can send you Directly To Jail? That would be funny.) Then Hedgeowl seems to be down $375, which I believe was the price she paid for the Windfall.

Ha, I just thought of another reason Epig could give for the early big bid. Maybe the baddies will consider him 'closer to bankruptcy' and avoid wasting their nightkill on a player that is so much closer to death.

I did think about the option that the baddies would try and NK those who have the most money.

That is indeed possible. With the utilities though, they already know half a dozen roles. So it makes me wonder if any of that will factor into their decision too.

juliets wrote:

Long Con wrote:So those payments to Pennsylvania RR are indeed $25 each. It's worth noting, though, TH, that boo will display the payments as $25 even if they are more, so as to hide the Railroads' actual current earning power.

Correct me if I'm wrong but can't we at least assume Pennsylvania is getting $50 because they own the Short Line?

I would guess the answer is no, since they don't have BTSC yet. The utilities do, and they're collecting 10 times the amount that someone rolls to land on one of their spots (IIRC, in Monopoly, it's only 4 times if you own one of them). But I'm going to ask just to make sure.

@Boo: Is my example the case, or not?

Also, LC, what exactly is your case against Epig? Do you think he's bad, or is it that you don't agree with TH's early read of Epig? Sorry if I'm making you repeat yourself, but I might have missed your reasoning somewhere.

Yes, in the sense that to increase value BTSC or owning is needed. If one utility dies and the other utility keeps the property or gets it back at some point after, owning it would be enough to have it at x10 the roll (would show up as x4 if they won it straight after the lynch as is the case with the RRs). Since the board movements occur before night actions, last night was $25, and if SVS did have the card and PR did take it after killing her, that value increases to $50 for PR and SL going forward, even if there is no BTSC with other RRs.

FZ. wrote:And another question, Boo:

When a civ is NK, do the rest of the set know that one of their set is gone? I'm assuming not because then they'd bid on it, but how do they know if they need to win with the other civs or get rid of everyone else when they get their set? Or how do they know if they need to bid for a property card or need to send a PM to search the other part/s of their set?

No. Well unless they got the card of the dead person, they'd be left default winning with other civs at that point. I'm not sure I follow on knowing if they need to bid on a card, they decide that and then either do it or don't. They'd still send in PMs unless something happened that confirmed their teammate had died (the person with that card offering to sell it for example), just nothing would happen as a result of those searches.

FZ. wrote:Asking again:

What happens if no one bids on a property?
Because if we decide we don't bid and baddies do, we know they're baddies, and if they're too scared to bid on them too, they don't get them?

It gets taken off the for auction and gets put up for sale at its board stated value, if someone wants to buy it they can state it in thread (I'll take PMs on that one as well) and then other people get 30 minutes to give an increased offer to get it instead. If that doesn't happen the first gets it, or it goes back and forth until 30 minutes pass without a higher offer.

Turnip Head wrote:Pennsylvania RR killed SVS last night, presumably taking all of her cards.

3 players landed on Pennsylvania RR last night, and only had to pay $25 each.

Does that mean that the Pennsylvania RR does not own any other railroads? The assumption being that SVS won the bidding on the Short Line and that Penn RR confiscated it after killing her.

@boo: What is the order of operations for night actions? Was SVS killed and then we all moved around the board, or did everybody move and then SVS died?

Movements are rolled out before night actions even start coming in. I just do it in bits as I have time to since it takes a little while.

But yes, SVS (and anyone who gets NKed in the future) still moves and is considered alive at the time of movement (so payments and what have you still happen from that person).

Long Con wrote:Sorry if this has been asked or clarified somewhere already: If a player with a Prize is killed, does the killer get the Prize? Does a lynched player's Prize go up for auction?

No to both.

Long Con wrote:RIP S~V~S. I would have probably checked you next, hope you weren't in my colour-group.

Boo, are people allowed to publicize who they checked at night? Like, could I say "Yo Epig, I checked you last night and we didn't sync up, too bad!", for example?

No would be my preference.

juliets wrote:

boo wrote:

juliets wrote:RIP SVS. I feel the chances are very high that you were good and that you were knocked out because of your bid.

boo - you forgot to put in Made's roll on the pastebin info or did he not have a roll for some reason?

I'll think about bidding for something tomorrow.

Dead people don't keep moving.

so why is his name still on there? but yeah, i forgot when i was looking at it that he died.

Single master list, plus leaving it there so a number isn't missing makes more sense to me. Sorry if it's confusing (I guess the strikeout doesn't carry over?).

juliets wrote:RIP SVS. I feel the chances are very high that you were good and that you were knocked out because of your bid.

boo - you forgot to put in Made's roll on the pastebin info or did he not have a roll for some reason?

I'll think about bidding for something tomorrow.

Dead people don't keep moving.

Night 1 End/Day 2 Start: The One Who Opens the Door

Pennsylvania Railroad: “Who are you talking to right now? Who is it you think you see? Do you know how much I make a year? I mean, even if I told you, you wouldn't believe it. Do you know what would happen if I suddenly decided to stop going into work? A business big enough that it could be listed on the NASDAQ goes belly up. Disappears! It ceases to exist without me. No, you clearly don't know who you're talking to, so let me clue you in. I am not in danger. I am the danger! A guy opens his door and gets shot and you think that of me? No. I am the one who knocks!”

*Pennsylvania Railroad knocks on SVS door*

BOOM

Rest of thread: “BITCH!”

SVS has been killed by Pennsylvania Railroad. Thanks for playing!
It is now Day 2. You have 48 hours to lynch someone.
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Powers available for bidding:
1st) Send a player to jail (Allows the player who uses it to send 1 player of their choice to jail) - $50 start
2nd) Silent Auction (The player who gets this power can make three auctions of their choice done privately instead of publicly. They receive half of the winning bid in the first auction, a third of the winning bid in the second auction, and a quarter of the winning bid in the third auction. They may not place bids in the auctions they make private. In power auctions, the most expensive power sold is the one they get money for). $150 start
3rd) Protect (Can be used to protect a person of your choice at night if you pick during a day, and remove a person of your choice from being on the lynch poll if used at night) - $50 start
4th) Auto-Find a Partner (Exactly what it sounds like) $250 start

1 minute left to bid, a few left to get PMs in.

Long Con wrote:So, is putting up a property or prize for trade/sale done with the seller being anonymous?

Yes. Same for the buyer.

S~V~S wrote:@boo

Team 1: Railroads (4)
Each night, every member of this team searches for another member of the team. If they find anyone on their team, they get BTSC. Searching continues until all 4 find each other, unless any of them get lynched. None of the 4 can be nightkilled until all living members have BTSC. They kill odd nights, with the kill randomly being assigned to one member each night, until they all have BTSC, at which point it will specifically be assigned to one member.

Does this mean that they can no longer search? Or am I reading into it? If it DOES mean they do not continue to search, are they then not able to be NKed permanently?

zeek wrote:Cya Made Why is anyone bidding on his card? It's hardly useful, is it?

I looked over the rent list for B & O, and the rails get double the rent of owning 3 rails for owning all 4 http://monopoly.wikia.com/wiki/B._%26_O._Railroad (assuming they can collect by owning the 4th card when the 4th member is dead? boo??). So, keeping it out of the hands of the other rails can't hurt.

$250

They still search, the unless they get lynched is in reference to, for example, if the 3 remaining members found each other, they wouldn't keep sending in PMs since the 4th was lynched. They can't be NKed until all of the living members have BTSC.

Yes, Railroads work by increasing in value for each one you have ($25 if you have one doubles to $50 for 2, $100 for 3, $200 for 4). If one of them got it and none of them had BTSC, they would get $50 per instead of $25 (with only the first $25 being listed if either property were landed on so as not to out them). Works similarly for civvies, owning the property of the one you start with in the event a teammate dies lets you get double rent if both/all 3 are together and build on them when you want (the doubling not showing up again to keep from outting you, if one of them was purchased in a post lynch and not traded. If it traded hands it would show up, but that's also the case for the railroads). And to be clear, the trading/selling of properties is all anonymous unlike the bidding. Say player 1 gets Short Line at the end of this bid, and then decides they want to turn around and sell it, they can do that ask another auction, setting whatever minimum bid they like, or just request offers, or if another player wants to ever put an offer on it, they PM me what they'll pay/trade/some combination (specifying what property your after rather than which player you think has it is fine), I PM that to Player 1, etc. It gives some creative work-arounds for trading properties to keep things from being obvious if you're so inclined.

More than you asked, but some things I think should be out there since it'd probably come up later anyways.

Long Con wrote:Is it first come, first served? Do you accept duplicate ideas?

For example, if I send in "Magical Pancake Power" and then Epig sends it in a minute later, am I awesome and Epig is outta luck?

First one in would get the 2 for getting it on the list, any subsequent idea that's the same would get 1 since it was then on it.

Long Con wrote:Is there going to be an announcement of who won what powers? I mean, I guess we could look back in the thread for who bid the biggest, and just assume they won... but I'm wondering if there will be a host post that puts it all together with the winners' names and how much they paid for it. For my spreadsheet.

I am watching with half-grinning disbelief at the fervent bidding on Short Line. I can't wait to see how it turns out.

There will not be. The winners get a PM, and may choose whether or not they share that fact. The same thing will be done with property auctions.

Day 1 End/Night 1 Start: Thank You for Mathing

Made: ...so what happens when you're wrong?
HannaK: Whoa, Made I'm never wrong.
Made: But you can't always be right...
Bass_the_Clever: Well, if it's your job to be right, then you're never wrong.
Made: But what if you are wrong?
zeek: OK, let's say that you're defending yourself, and I'm defending killing you. Now if I were to say to you: 'Killing you is the best thing we can do', you'd say...
Made: No, that’s a horrible idea.
Black Rock: Exactly, but you can't win that argument... so, I'll ask you: so you think not killing you is the end all and the all of ideas, do you?
Made: It's the best idea, I wouldn't have any other.
nijuukyugou: Oh! So it's all not killing you for you is it?
Made: Yes, not being killed is all I need.
S~V~S: Well, I need more than not killing you, and for that matter I need more than the idea of killing you. I believe that we need freedom. And choice when it comes to our murders, and that Made, that is the definition of liberty.
Made: But that's not what we're talking about
juliets: Ah! But that's what I'm talking about.
Made: ...but you didn't prove that killing me was the best...
Turnip Head: I didn't have to. I proved that you're wrong, and if you're wrong I'm right.
Made: But you still didn't convince me
Hedgeowl: It's that I'm not after you. I'm after them.

Made has been lynched. He was Short Line. Thanks for playing Made!
It is now Night 1. You have 24 hours to get PMs in.
Bidding on Short Line also begins now. If you voted for Made, you get +$200 to any bid you make. Bidding starts at $1 and just has to increase from the previous bid. Like power bids, it will end 10 minutes prior to the end of the phase (so 9:50pm EST tomorrow night).

Bidding ends in 2 minutes: currently at $95 for the Die, $500 for chance, $250 for windfall.

Only changed vote I have down is metalmarsh.

Boogs wrote:$110 on the dice

You already had the highest current bid at $95. Someone else had made one after that, but they were either below that amount or didn't increase it by $10.

Long Con wrote:@boo:

1. Does the winner of the Chance card bid get to know what is on the Chance card before giving/using it?

2. Are we just going ahead with unchangeable votes for now?

No, it's random.

Just state in thread if you want to change, just don't do it a ton so it's still easy to track.

Turnip Head wrote:Can we still bid on the dice roll? I'll bid the current + 25 on that.

Yup, bidding goes until 10 minutes before the lynch ends.

That puts the current bid at $85.

birdwithteeth11 wrote:

Turnip Head wrote:I bet 50 Monopoly $'s that Epi makes it further in this challenge than MM does.

@Boo: Can we actually do thi$?

If $o, I bet $100 that Epig win$.

Sure. Clearly agreed upon rules before betting starts though, and PM bets along with posting them in thread to keep it easier to track (and for bets to take place, bets of equal value on both/all participants need to be included). One rule I would need though is no intentional throwing of any competition where bets are placed.