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by indiglo
Mon Mar 21, 2016 6:02 pm
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Topic: [END] Turf Wars: Battle of the Hosts
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Re: [DAY 6] Turf Wars: Battle of the Hosts

Prisoner 509378 wrote:The alternative to the Boom lynch I am considering most strongly right now is a sig lynch. I am willing to work alongside Epignosis on this one, and I do think sig has been suspicious in recent memory even given my reservations about suspecting his play earlier. I also think that if he is mislynch-bait, then this town will struggle a great deal to get past that and eventually it could be the game-losing move. If he's going to be lynched it has to be soon.
If sig comes up the consensus, I would be willing to vote there too.


What are your thoughts on Quin at this point? A couple people I trust have been going for him for a long time.
by indiglo
Mon Mar 21, 2016 5:57 pm
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Re: [DAY 6] Turf Wars: Battle of the Hosts

Prisoner 509378 wrote:General recommendation for all players that you can heed or ignore as you please:

If this ends in a mislynch, regardless of which player it is, then the alignment ratio of living players is likely to become critical after the night phase. That means there can be no more farting around; there has to be coordination. The townies have to find each other and vote together, or there will be no chance of a comeback.

Use process of elimination. Everyone knows who they trust. Take the leap of faith to worth together, even if in the back of your mind you're terrified of being duped. If someone dupes you, props to them and good game. If the suspect pool is narrowed and the votes can be focused upon that narrowed pool, then there'll be some opportunity for a turnaround. None of us is likely to completely solve this game alone, and none of us is capable of lynching all the cops alone. We'll have to be willing to give in on some of our disagreements and compromise. I, for example, would be willing to vote alongside people I trust most to lynch a player that I might not even want to lynch that much. There'll still be a substantive discussion of course, but in the end the team needs to work together. Stubbornly holding oneself to a case and to a vote that is not going to produce a lynch is a losing strategy.
This is where I'm at. Since getting back from my trip I have just decided to let go, and trust the people I trust. If they've duped me, I will give them major props.

And this reason is why I am also ready to vote for Quin next time, if those people who have been on him are still leaning that way. I feel like my reads have been off anyway, so why not just trust the people I trust. I'm ready to leap. And I agree that we cannot have 2 major wagons going like this for the rest of the game. It leaves too much to chance.


Linkapalooza~
by indiglo
Mon Mar 21, 2016 5:46 pm
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Re: [DAY 6] Turf Wars: Battle of the Hosts

Prisoner 509378 wrote:
indiglo wrote:Anyway, I guess my point is that I don't like the tally right now either. I don't think all the outlying votes, or even people who haven't voted yet are all scum, but there are clearly scum among them, just through logical thought process. Right? (I mean, the entire scum team wouldn't pile on ika, right? Though I do think it's likely some are there, obviously.) My next question is, where are the scum more likely to be at this point? On ika and outliers? Or just no shows?
This all depends upon the alignments of Boom and ika. I'll wait until one of those is revealed before I dig too deep into who is a cop. I don't trust the ika wagon though. My biggest reason for holding my vote on Boomslang is that I'm so comfortable voting with the other people on him. That wagon feels like some effort at teamwork regardless of the outcome.
Right. I still want to gather this info so we have it at arm's length. Once we get our lynch done, and see who goes and what they flip, I agree - looking into who voted where may be more fruitful. So at least this will be right here at that point.

I also agree about the Boom wagon. I would rather at least vote with people I trust - because at least I feel good about their motives behind their votes.
by indiglo
Mon Mar 21, 2016 5:44 pm
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Topic: [END] Turf Wars: Battle of the Hosts
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Re: [DAY 6] Turf Wars: Battle of the Hosts

Now for outliers. I am just doing this to look for patterns, and see what we can see.

ika

Day 1 - SW
Day 2 - Fuzz
Day 3 - sig
Day 4 - Gleam
Day 5 - sig
Night 5 - Prisoner50
chaindeath

Day 1 - LC (only vote for LC)
Day 2 - Luffy
Day 3 - Nero
Day 4 - missed
Day 5 - Matt 2.0 (only vote for Matt 2.0)
Night 5 - Prisoner50
Nero

Day 1 - chaindeath
Day 2 - ika
Day 3 - missed
Day 4 - sig
Day 5 - Boomrique
Night 5 - Prisoner50
Epi

Day 1 - Wilgy
Day 2 - Zebra (only vote for Zebra)
Day 3 - Nero
Day 4 - sig
Day 5 - sig
Night 5 - Prisoner92
Llama

Day 1 - Metalmarsh (only vote on MM)
Day 2 - Luffy
Day 3 - Luffy
Day 4 - Quin
Day 5 - Luffy
Night 5 - Prisoner50
BR

Day 1 - TH
Day 2 - TH (only vote for TH)
Day 3 - TH (only vote for TH)
Day 4 - Quin
Day 5 - Quin (only vote for Quin)
Night 5 - missed

Linki~ will post then read.
by indiglo
Mon Mar 21, 2016 5:31 pm
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Topic: [END] Turf Wars: Battle of the Hosts
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Re: [DAY 6] Turf Wars: Battle of the Hosts

Grouping these as quotes to help make it less confusing. These are people who have not yet voted today.
Mongoose / Draconus

Mongoose voted:

Day 1 - TH
Day 2 - missed

Draconus voted:

Day 3 - missed
Day 4 - self-vote
Day 5 - Luffy
Night 5 - Prisoner50
Serge

Day 1 - missed
Day 2 - ika
Day 3 - LC
Day 4 - missed
Day 5 - missed
Night 5 - Prisoner50
TH

Day 1 - missed
Day 2 - Fuzz
Day 3 - LC
Day 4 - Gleam
Day 5 - Luffy
Night 5 - missed
by indiglo
Mon Mar 21, 2016 5:17 pm
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Topic: [END] Turf Wars: Battle of the Hosts
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Re: [DAY 6] Turf Wars: Battle of the Hosts

People who have yet to vote today: TH, Serge, Draconus

Outlying votes (Not on one of the common wagons gonig): ika, chaindeath, Nero, Epi, Llama, BR

So Boom & ika are tied at 5 each with 9 votes still floating around elsewhere. (Not to mention that the people on ika - or Boom for that matter, but I feel it less likely with the Boom voters - could still move their votes around.)

Plus, there may be up to 6 votes in various hands from the Loan Sharks. (Though, keeping it real again, I would hope that they are paying attention and involved, and aren't being stupid in lending out votes.)

Anyway, I guess my point is that I don't like the tally right now either. I don't think all the outlying votes, or even people who haven't voted yet are all scum, but there are clearly scum among them, just through logical thought process. Right? (I mean, the entire scum team wouldn't pile on ika, right? Though I do think it's likely some are there, obviously.) My next question is, where are the scum more likely to be at this point? On ika and outliers? Or just no shows?


Now I may just take time to go through and see who hasn't been keeping up with the daily votes.


Linki~ :D :beer:
by indiglo
Mon Mar 21, 2016 5:04 pm
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Topic: [END] Turf Wars: Battle of the Hosts
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Re: [DAY 6] Turf Wars: Battle of the Hosts

Sloonei wrote:I've been at work for an hour and one post has been made? Shaking my head disapprovingly at everyone.
Will there be no last minute shenanigans today? I wouldn't mind a nice, calm EoD, that's for sure. It would also make Epi super happy, so that has to count for something. :biggrin:



Oooh! Linki! Look what you started, Sloon!

You know, with this bizarre stand off happening, it made me think about how people have been missing lynch votes lately. If it were 3 times in a row, I think we'd hear something from the hosts, because that's what they said would constitute no participation. And this is a strange tally, I agree. That is something I would like to look into, though keeping it real I don't see anyway I'll get to that today before EoD.
by indiglo
Mon Mar 21, 2016 3:48 pm
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Topic: [END] Turf Wars: Battle of the Hosts
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Re: [DAY 6] Turf Wars: Battle of the Hosts

Sloonei wrote:I'm off to work for the rest of the day. I emphatically endorse votes for Boomslang. I approve of votes for Quin. I shake compulsively and break out in a cold sweat at the very thought of ika.
This is pretty much where I'm at.

Though, I shake less compulsively, and more just because I want to. :doh:


Prisoner 509378 wrote:The people voting Boom are so much easier to trust than those voting ika. This is easy IMO.
Righto! In fact, both people who are being looked at today have jumped onto ika. Which, I mean, I understand self-preservation and what not... but still... you are saying truths. I'm feeling better and better about my Boom vote.
by indiglo
Mon Mar 21, 2016 3:32 pm
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Topic: [END] Turf Wars: Battle of the Hosts
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Re: [DAY 6] Turf Wars: Battle of the Hosts

thellama73 wrote:
Turnip Head wrote:Okay, well now I get the feeling that Llama might have civ BTSC with Boom.
I am NOT implying that. I am just suspicion of sudden out-of-the-blue wagons.
I don't find it sudden or out of the blue. Enrique previously garnered a lot of talk, starting EoD 2. Then it cooled off. Now we're back to talking about him again.

Linki~ XD
by indiglo
Mon Mar 21, 2016 1:11 pm
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Topic: [END] Turf Wars: Battle of the Hosts
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Re: [DAY 6] Turf Wars: Battle of the Hosts

Running through! ATM, I am going to drop my vote on Boomrique. At this point, I think I would probably be ok with any of the top candidates, because I am paranoid as hell and not 100% certain about any of them. I could pretty well talk myself into or out of voting each of them, which does not help. So, I am open to changing, if we get some discussion going later today and make a consensus.
by indiglo
Mon Mar 21, 2016 10:34 am
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Topic: [END] Turf Wars: Battle of the Hosts
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Re: [DAY 6] Turf Wars: Battle of the Hosts

Quin wrote:
Prisoner 509378 wrote:I have nagging doubts about Scotty, and about lynching you. If you're an evil baddie then you're doing a fantastic job of conveying an earnest tone every time you're pressed. I'm looking through your posts for anti-Scotty stuff. I'm looking for inspiration.
I hope you find something that convinces you to change your mind. Either way, I'm about to go to bed and I'll likely sleep through EoD.

I'd recommend you all stop looking at inactives so actively. Yes, it is likely that there are some among them, but there's not enough to work with to prevent those lynches from coming down to sheer probability. Meanwhile, the active scum are playing a very good game keeping your eyes off them.

I'd also recommend having a look at any players yet to make a decision as to my alignment. I've been a major point of interest since EoD2. Anybody who has yet to come to a decision on that front reeks of disassociation and scumminess. As fate would have it, ika fits this category. I'm sure he's not the only one.
Does this read odd to anybody else? Or have I lost my mind?

I don't want another mislynch. Numbers being what they are, and with the cops being able to sometimes take out 3 players a night, we need to lynch cops, period. So I don't want to jump on things the way that I have - because I have been wrong multiple times in this game in so doing.

Linki~
by indiglo
Mon Mar 21, 2016 2:27 am
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Topic: [END] Turf Wars: Battle of the Hosts
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Re: [DAY 6] Turf Wars: Battle of the Hosts

Prisoner 509378 wrote:Seriously, anyone else think I'm off-base? Tell me all about it.
I came in well after the fact, and read it the same way you do. (My new Golden. :fiesta: ) Could be wrong, sure, but that's how I read it.

Also, I just realized how many posts in a row this is going to be from me and I am so sorry. I will keep this reply open and put any furthers ones in here.

Silverwolf wrote:
Spoiler: show
ika wrote:
Silverwolf wrote:
ika wrote:
Silverwolf wrote: You asked me if I was town or not and I answered. You even defended doing that. So why didn't you answer when I asked if you were scum or not?
Cus i thought it was self implied that you knew the answer to it too
How would I know that answer to that?

Now, look at this post again. Is this a town post you would make?
ika wrote:
Silverwolf wrote:
Prisoner 509378 wrote:I swear, we could absolutely know ika's alignment right now if SW would just take a hard 100% stance. It'd be plain as day. Come on, let's stop farking around and do it.
I'm 100% certain he's scum.

Those wanting me to vote him-all good things come to those who wait.
Im disappointed in you silver, i thought you knew me better than that. No im not scum and if you are 100% convinced of it im am greatly saddened that you are 100% convinced of this. I expected better then this form you.....

This myslynch is going to be 100% on you

pedit: yes she is wrong
No, town me would not make that kind of post. I am town so looking back and realizing how manipulative it is, i am sorry. I didn't realize how manipulative it looked at first. This kind of post is something i would never make towards you town/scum/3rd party. I didn't realize how bad it was and reading it again is really making me feel guilty that i made this kind of post.
ika

lol wut??





Well, that was... unique. Also, that wasn't as many multiple posts from me as I imagined. I'll be back. Tomorrow. My 2nd wind done blew out. :offtobed:
by indiglo
Mon Mar 21, 2016 2:10 am
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Topic: [END] Turf Wars: Battle of the Hosts
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Re: [DAY 6] Turf Wars: Battle of the Hosts

S~V~S wrote:
ika wrote:
Silverwolf wrote:ika-How can you say you are gonna flip town but also say my scumread on you is correct?
I dont think i have ever said your read was right or wrong, are you 100% sure on it?

pedit: yes it does, it alwasy will too
So you aren't a baddie unless she says you are,even if the host sends you a role that says "BADDIE"?

I feel like I'm trapped in an Abbott and Costello bit.
by indiglo
Mon Mar 21, 2016 2:06 am
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Topic: [END] Turf Wars: Battle of the Hosts
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Re: [DAY 6] Turf Wars: Battle of the Hosts

Epignosis wrote:
ika wrote:Silver can read me accurately.
Do you ever plan to change that? If you're bad, don't you ever want to win? Or is the ultimate success being read correctly by your girlfriend?

You sound like the Lone Ranger.

This whole thing reminded me of a funny story Dex reminded me of the other day. Quite some time ago, we were both playing a game (I think on HV, but can't remember the game). We both started the game as civs (with no BTSC). I got recruited to the scum team at some point during the game. It was so obvious to him, but he never said anything about it in the thread because he felt bad for me. He only told me after I was dead in the game. He knew the exact day. :haha: (Sig's favorite smiley! :D )

Maybe that's only funny to me because it was me, and I am currently punchy.
by indiglo
Mon Mar 21, 2016 1:59 am
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Topic: [END] Turf Wars: Battle of the Hosts
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Re: [DAY 6] Turf Wars: Battle of the Hosts

Sloonei wrote:@ indi, thank yu for your response. At the moment there is nothing I nees you to address for my read on you. I think you are town, but I am one of the most cautious players you'll ever meet. I never throw anyone off the suspects pile for good unless the hosts tell me to. For whatever reason I keep coming back to you even though all your posts ooze towniness to me.
I will have to get that looked at! XD

Also, PS - I did not stop reading the thread yet. Shhhhhh, don't tell anyone. I feel like I've gotten a second wind, plus some of these pages have been extremely entertaining! :grin:
by indiglo
Mon Mar 21, 2016 1:22 am
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Re: [DAY 6] Turf Wars: Battle of the Hosts

sig wrote:
Spoiler: show
So indi uses a lot and I mean a lot of faces. Especially this one. :haha: :ponder:

She goes after Matt 1.0 and votes for him. I see a good amount of early defense for Ika it isn't overbearing, but it is present in a good number of her posts. Not nearly as muchif any defense of Gleam, however she also doesn't attack gleam. This is something to keep in mind if one flips scum.
indiglo wrote:
RadicalFuzz wrote:Matt is either playing from a high tightrope or is town. The risk/reward for his actions feels like high/medium if he's scum.
Sloonei is my strongest townread, as his posts have consistently made logical sense and he's avoided tunnelling on one player or interaction. It feels like he's trying to solve the game, and that's good.
You look town-y to me, for similar reasons to Sloonei. The difference is your tone reads as a little early to reach a conclusion, like you're content with finding enough facts to reach a conclusion at all, not necessarily the correct one.

Spirityo still has said next to nothing and we're a few hours out from Day 2 ending. His four posts consist of the following. A "linki - that's a good idea", one "I agree with Sloonei about the cultural differences between RYM & Syndicate", a greeting to everyone, and an apology for missing the vote. Absolutely zero content whatsoever.
Enrique I don't like because of his refusal to explain his vote on Day 1. That entire situation read as if he was nervous, if that makes sense, like he didn't have a reason at the time of his vote but decided he needed one.

I refuse to touch the Silverwolf/ika thing with a 39 & 1/2 foot pole. There's some logic to be found in interactions regarding them, but so much emotion that I'd probably end up stepping on someone's toes and they'd get mad at me for their decision to wear sandals.

My vote's going to be used to prevent a tie today. I'm indifferent as to where specifically it goes.

Turnip the reason you should vote for me is so you stop twiddling your thumbs about who to vote for.

Llama can you elaborate on your conclusion that Luffy's posts scream "cop?"

Oh yes, thank you for reminding me I wanted to look over Enrique's posts!
Some interaction with Fuzz here.
indiglo wrote:Switching to Fuzz for the time being.

I would definitely like to hear from him / her before EoD if possible.

I did recently get mislynched in a CFD in Rocky & Bullwinkle, and it sucked. I prefer people to be able to defend against votes, but I also prefer not to be forced to vote for someone I don't want to vote for in order for my vote to mean something.


Linki up the wazoo here too! Weeeeee!
An early vote for fuzz after some Ika/Silver defense.
indiglo wrote:To me, it's not so much "opportunistic" as it is a fast flip w/absolutely NO explanation.

Fuzz, what is your motivation for suddenly flipping from not touching it with a 39 1/2 foot pole to voting exactly for that person?
This kind off seems like some Fuzz defense, but it is hard to tell. She did end the day with a vote for Fuzz and never really tried to switch the CFD.
indiglo wrote:
S~V~S wrote:
a2thezebra wrote:
Golden wrote: A CFD that actually takes down a baddie is GOING to make baddies reveal themselves. They have to scramble like hell. It is only normal that some, even if they are good players, are going to reveal their hands in the chaos. That's the whole point of it.
That's the thing though...it makes the baddies reveal themselves if the target of the CFD is in fact a baddie. If it's not, the sudden pressure on them out of nowhere might make them appear as if they were a baddie because of how they might react to receiving so many votes out of nowhere. Given the result, I obviously don't have a problem with the lynch and though I'm still not a CFD fan I can't criticize how it played out this time, but I do think that the result it produced owed at least most of it to luck, and that there have got to be some baddies on that wagon.
Why? Especially since it appeared that ika had the most votes? If Fuzz had appeared to have the most votes, then I would definitely agree he had been heaved under the Greyhound. But, from the way it looked, it looked like ika had been lynched and he had been saved. Why would baddies do that?

I don't buy it.

Replying as I catch up...

This is where my head is at also SVS. The fact is that on the poll, ika came out with MORE votes than Fuzz... so it looked like Fuzz was safe. No need to bus a teammate that is safe.
I disagree here, this is basically saying nobody on the Fuzz wagon is scum I don't think that is the case.
Indi also did some soft pushes on Gleam after Fuzz was lynched drawing connections between them. I'm unsure how to feel about that.

Overall I don't see anything really suspicious one could question her interaction with Fuzz and then her push on Gleam, but that isn't super scummy. I do think if Ika flips mafia then she is also. If I want to get really tinfoily I'd say Indi, Ika, and Nero are three mafia members. I'm just lacking proof. Though it could be possibly. :ponder:

I'll also do a quick read over of llama and Enrique before EOD. I'm leaning towards an Enrique/Bloom lynch today. However, due to his inactivity I'm torn on whether that would be a good lynch or not.
Ok, I saw this and wanted to reply to it too. I'm going to try to stop reading at the end of this page so I can remember where to pick up tomorrow.

Dude, I built the case on Gleam. That was no soft push my friend. I was more sure about him being scum than I was about Fuzz! I was wrong (duh), but just wanted to clarify that (if no one else has yet). It was not a soft push, it was a hard core case. I don't think I made it immediately after the Fuzz lynch, because at first I was not seeing anything suspicious on Gleam. But that definitely changed. (Again, sorry Gleam, and everyone.)

I also make a lot of faces IRL. Like, a really lot. I think most people enjoy them, but maybe they're just being polite? :shrug2:
by indiglo
Mon Mar 21, 2016 1:08 am
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: [END] Turf Wars: Battle of the Hosts
Replies: 9293
Views: 194880

Re: [DAY 6] Turf Wars: Battle of the Hosts

Sloonei wrote:
Prisoner 509378 wrote:Okay, here's a chart of the results from the GTH exercise:
Image
This chart suggests Boomslang, ika, Draconus, Nerolunar, and Serge are our top priorities today. I suppose that matches the discussions that have been going on in here. I'm surprised at the low totals on Quin and sig. Quin because he's definitely bad (my vote would have made it 3 for him, at least) and sig because he's just been such a hot topic all game long. Serge is also a bit of a surprise, I didn't expect him to be such a big suspect.
I'd like to hear more from the people who labeled him with an M, myself included.
If any of the unanimous town picks are making me uneasy, it's still indiglo. I still have her as a town read, but I continue to be unable to shake a feeling in the back of my mind that she's just playing a very precise scum game. She's been in the thread to hammer home a lot of points, but is seldom one of the players stirring the pot.
I am completely exhausted and brain dead, but can I stay out of this thread? No.

So I am not in full catch up mode, but I did see this and want to reply. (I am at least 10 pages back from current page, but am going to go ahead and reply anyway.)

I appreciate the compliment about the precise scum game. I am not doing that, but of course you can't know until you know my role and all that. I am also used to occasionally taking some heat while on my civ game, for a variety of reasons.

Sometimes (like R&B) because I think about the game when I'm not online, and sometimes have flashes of ideas I will stew on before I come back online. Then I'll post my idea without always explaining it that much (like, I just start posting mid-sentence, or mid-thought if that makes sense), and someone will jump on it for being a total u-turn, or making an outlandish statement without having mentioned it in the thread prior.

Sometimes it's because I have posted in a stream of consciousness style, which means I will post conflicting thoughts in the same post, because I'm thinking and reasoning (or trying to, lol) as I type.

Lots of other reasons, but the brain is tired. So I in no way take offense or umbrage to your statement. Plus, I understand paranoia is rampant, I am suffering from it myself. And I too feel like I have been in ketchup mode quite often this game. One reason, I think, is that after being away for a couple years, most of the players on the site and in this game are new to me. So I don't know their playstyles, or anything about them. In that sense, once I had a touchstone or two that I really felt were civ, I felt like looking in the direction they were looking to see if I agreed. Best strategy? I don't know.

However, if there is anything you feel like you need to ask, or hear, or see, please mention it (and apologies if you already have and I haven't gotten that far yet). If it's just a minor paranoia feeling I can live with that. But if it's going to impact your scum hunting in this game, I would love to clear it up. I know you won't know I'm town (or, mafia actually) until my role is revealed (and who knows if we are the same family even), but if I can help in any way prior to that - to aid with game progression - that would be my first wish.

This may very well be as coherent as I'm gonig to be tonight, so I may just read a bit more without doing much more posting until I can rightly get caught up to present.


Prisoner, thanks much for that work! I found the chart to be quite interesting! I will say (and I should have said this when we were doing the reads) that 2 of the ones I fought over most were Sig and Epi. There were others too, mainly Quin (because I just don't want him to be scum - but wishes don't mean a lot, he rolled what he rolled in the role department), Serge, Scotty (though I'm thinking that he is seeming less scummy).

I am also growing a bit more concerned about SW. She was so upset yesterday that no one was following her on ika... and now it's like she's totally dropped that. I don't know, she's seeming a touch flippy floppy as the game continues. Which definitely can have civ explanations, but I will admit to it making me uncomfortable.

Ok, now that really may be all I have for now. I've got mafia on my brain and a touch less than 50% brain power. :scared: Tomorrow I am going to hope to get caught up and be able to make a rational decision. :noble:
by indiglo
Sat Mar 19, 2016 8:47 pm
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Topic: [END] Turf Wars: Battle of the Hosts
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Views: 194880

Re: [DAY 6] Turf Wars: Battle of the Hosts

Prisoner 509378 wrote:
Epignosis wrote:I just finished refreshing and reading one page, thinking "Oh God, there's a whole new page to read."

I click over to the new page, and there's THREE new pages. :overreact:

But I realize it's GTH bullshit, so carry on GTH bullshit people. :beer:
The most consistently effective strategy I've encountered. :beer:
Probably why he doesn't like it. :D :beer: :p

I should jet off too. That was loads of fun though! I will look forward to catching up and reading more when I get home. That was a nice diversion after our heavy civilian casualties. Thanks!
by indiglo
Sat Mar 19, 2016 8:45 pm
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Re: [DAY 6] Turf Wars: Battle of the Hosts

ika wrote:ok in that case im goign to poo. be back in about 10-15
*hands ika a bar of soap* :grin:
by indiglo
Sat Mar 19, 2016 8:45 pm
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Re: [DAY 6] Turf Wars: Battle of the Hosts

That was fun! And what I noticed is that there were a lot LESS I felt unsure about than what I had initially imagined. I only had to really think on a few of them.
by indiglo
Sat Mar 19, 2016 8:43 pm
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Re: [DAY 6] Turf Wars: Battle of the Hosts

Serge wrote:*listing names that won't be invited to my birthday party*
:haha:
by indiglo
Sat Mar 19, 2016 8:42 pm
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Re: [DAY 6] Turf Wars: Battle of the Hosts

Prisoner 509378 wrote:S~V~S

PRISONER 509378

QUIN

SCOTTY
Town

Town

Town

Town


(Ack, but not sure on the last 2!!! It's just, I feel worse about some others than those particular 2. Also, Golden would like this.)
by indiglo
Sat Mar 19, 2016 8:40 pm
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Re: [DAY 6] Turf Wars: Battle of the Hosts

Prisoner 509378 wrote:SERGE

NEROLUNAR

INDIGLO
Town

Mafia

Town
by indiglo
Sat Mar 19, 2016 8:39 pm
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Serge wrote:This is fun :)
I know, right? Sig was a tough one for me - paranoia~

Also, looks like the wifi picked back up! Hooray!
by indiglo
Sat Mar 19, 2016 8:37 pm
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Re: [DAY 6] Turf Wars: Battle of the Hosts

Prisoner 509378 wrote:SILVERWOLF

IKA

SIG
Town

Mafia

Town
by indiglo
Sat Mar 19, 2016 8:35 pm
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Prisoner 509378 wrote:DRACONUS

SLOONEI

EPIGNOSIS
Mafia

Town

Mafia
by indiglo
Sat Mar 19, 2016 8:34 pm
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Prisoner 509378 wrote:THELLAMA73

CHAINDEATH

SONEJI
Town

Town

Town
by indiglo
Sat Mar 19, 2016 8:28 pm
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Prisoner 509378 wrote:BLACK ROCK

TURNIP HEAD

BOOMSLANG
Town

Town

Mafia


Sorry if I'm 3 hours behind, the wifi seriously just crapped out here.
by indiglo
Sat Mar 19, 2016 8:24 pm
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Prisoner 509378 wrote:Fine screw it, we have to start before people leave the thread. Here's the exercise:

I'm going to go through the list of players still alive, and throw them into the thread in groups of three. Each of you (plus me) will QUOTE EACH GROUP I POST (please quote it, it makes it much easier to tally) and reply with a read on those three players.

YOU MAY NOT SAY NEUTRAL. OR NULL. OR I DUNNO. OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. YOU HAVE EXACTLY TWO OPTIONS FOR EVERY READ: TOWN OR MAFIA.

If you understand, say aye. Then we'll begin.

Cool Serge.
Aye.
by indiglo
Sat Mar 19, 2016 8:22 pm
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Re: [DAY 6] Turf Wars: Battle of the Hosts

I'm new to this also, but I'm also game. :grin:

But this hotel's wifi has gotten real sucky just now.

Is this going to be like the Russian Roulette game, like in The Deer Hunter? :puppy:



Argh, this is the 3rd time I've had to try to resend this message!!!!!
by indiglo
Sat Mar 19, 2016 8:17 pm
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*cracks knuckles*
by indiglo
Sat Mar 19, 2016 8:14 pm
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Re: [DAY 6] Turf Wars: Battle of the Hosts

I can stay on for 10 more minutes.
by indiglo
Sat Mar 19, 2016 8:06 pm
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@Prisoner50 - I know, like DUH, right? :haha:


Linki~
@Quin - :haha: Too funny!
by indiglo
Sat Mar 19, 2016 8:04 pm
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Prisoner 509378 wrote:
indiglo wrote:Now, with no Golden, I will have to ditto my own posts. That really bums me out. :puppy:
Consider me his stand-in. :p
Indeed. I was thinking that myself. It has brought me much cheer. :nicenod:
by indiglo
Sat Mar 19, 2016 8:03 pm
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Prisoner 509378 wrote:
Serge wrote:Ricochet won? Is he still playing? Is the game over?
Yep, it's all over. Who were your team mates?

Image
by indiglo
Sat Mar 19, 2016 8:00 pm
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Congrats Rico! Welcome Prisoner50!

Poo to both arrests & the NK. :fist:

Now, with no Golden, I will have to ditto my own posts. That really bums me out. :puppy:

I am beyond pooped, so will pop off for now. I will be as active as I can once I get back home. I really hope we can catch a cop this lynch. Obviously, preferably Ye Olde Warden. But any cop will do as far as I care.

Linki~~
by indiglo
Sat Mar 19, 2016 7:21 pm
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The streets will flow with the blood of the non-believers! :mafia:
by indiglo
Sat Mar 19, 2016 7:20 pm
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That is my life's dream. :noble: I tell you, it is. I hope we can do it.
by indiglo
Sat Mar 19, 2016 7:18 pm
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Too funny!

Well send us another any time you need to. We will do our level best. It is a crime to see so many upstanding citizens locked up unjustly.
by indiglo
Sat Mar 19, 2016 7:15 pm
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Prisoner 740359 wrote:
indiglo wrote:
Prisoner 740359 wrote:Did the other Night phases have any polls?
The last one that had a poll was identifying a quote. The next day, you all came out.
Ah, lol, it was probably our "ask the audience" lifeline.
Really? Interesting. Our quote was "wtf-ika what are you doing?" or something similar. It was said by SW! :beer:

I wonder if we got the same quote you got.
by indiglo
Sat Mar 19, 2016 7:14 pm
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Prisoner74 - Thank you for those analyses! I shall vote you MVP - Most Valuable Prisoner. :noble: If there's another parole hearing, I will not forget you.

It's been extremely helpful to get some fresh eyes on the game. And I am looking forward to being a fresher mind myself to look over those again.
by indiglo
Sat Mar 19, 2016 7:10 pm
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Prisoner 509378 wrote:
Scotty wrote:I also I stil want to lynch Quin if that isn't perfectly obvious
I think a lot of people still want to lynch a lot of people, and that's understandable.

I do think the current game circumstance demands total reassessment though, by everyone. I'm not saying the prior baddie reads are wrong, but I wouldn't feel comfortable just walking my vote over to another suspect we've been fielding for days without really examining it.
I think that's pretty much where I'm at too right now. Too bad I won't have as much time to do that this day period as I'd like, but I do think it's time to reassess. I think it was Sloon that mentioned that the other day, like hitting a reset on things - because now I'm just thinking that the things that led me to suspect certain people were possibly misinterpreted or based on presumptions and assumptions that may have been false.

I also feel it is quite likely that there is scum among the low-posters. The issue with starting to lynch low-posters should be clear though - there isn't much to go on, so it can become a craps shoot.

How does this post help? I'm not sure it does, but I'm butt tired and real paranoid, so that's where my brain is at. Also I'd prefer to only be 10 pages behind when I get back home and not 20. So I'm pushing through! :noble:
by indiglo
Sat Mar 19, 2016 6:58 pm
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Prisoner 740359 wrote:Did the other Night phases have any polls?
The last one that had a poll was identifying a quote. The next day, you all came out.
by indiglo
Sat Mar 19, 2016 6:57 pm
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Prisoner 509378 wrote:
Silverwolf wrote:I'm also suspicious of Draconus, Soneji, Boomslang, Serge
You're suspicious of every lurker. Okay. Which higher-volume posters do you suspect?
Silverwolf wrote:I thought dragon was a mislynch just like I think sig is.
Let's see how hard you worked to prevent that DDL mislynch:

Day 3:
Spoiler: show
Silverwolf wrote:Fuzz also had some mild suspicion of DDL but not much to make me feel anyway one way or the other. I am townreading DDL for reasons outside of this anyway.
You express a town read on DDL, and the reason for that town read is literally "reasons". This read exists, but stands no chance of influencing any thread motion w/r/t DDL.
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Silverwolf wrote:
thellama73 wrote:Dragon D. Luffy

I promise I'll catch up and be a good little participant tomorrow, guys. Exhausting weekend.
I'm gonna hold you to this. I don't think you've done anything but vote for DDL and then vanish all game. You need to do things here or be lynched.
You griped at llama for his reads on DDL given your disagreement with that read and your observation about llama's presence/lack of presence. The reasons for that disagreement are still unclear.

Day 4:
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Silverwolf wrote:Moved my vote to gleam. DDL is town.

Bolding and underlining is a pain mobile posting.

Ika-I know you are working all day and night but if you check this on break-would you be willing to vote for gleam?
Again we have a read that exists but cannot be influential because it is nothing but a read.

Day 5:
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Silverwolf wrote:Why on Earth are people voting for Dragon?
Silverwolf wrote:ika's buddying me again

Because I've felt DDL is town since about D2.
Here's the important stuff, when the lynch was actually developing. We had Epignosis writing a dissertation on why DDL was bad. We had llama recounting all of his prior stated beefs with DDL. We had Prisoner 509378 popping into the thread by surprise and identifying a number of things about DDL that made him suspicious. We had Golden acknowledging some points and referring to his own prior content on DDL. We had Sloonei underwhelmed by the DDL option, but he engaged in a discussion to sort out his vote. We had numerous other prisoners join the DDL lynch because they felt it was acceptable given the information at hand. We had a huge breadth of content in this thread supporting the notion that DDL would be an ideal lynch candidate.

What did we have to the contrary, produced by the player Silverwolf? Absolutely nothing but the above posts. Those posts, left unexplained as has been the case with all of your defenses of DDL prior, stood no chance whatsoever of changing the momentum of the thread against DDL. In fact, the only potential they did hold was realized when you complained again at the very last second -- some people might have suspected you had town BTSC with him (you did not). All of this is to say that you contributed exactly nothing to the thread which could have prevented the DDL lynch. And for you to be so demeaning to the people who took part in it is not only unfair, it is suspicious.

You say ika has been buddying you? Maybe you've been buddying DDL. Because I have no clue why you thought he was town.

Hello thread!!

Also, prisoner50... reading my mind. I totally agree.

I have said it before this game and will say it again - if you feel you know something the rest of us need to know in regards to a lynch - SAY IT. If you feel there's a better candidate - SHARE THAT, make your case. There are a lot of us who are VERY open to listening, rethinking, reevaluating, etc. I don't think very many of my suspicions are set in stone, because I don't think they can afford to be.
by indiglo
Sat Mar 19, 2016 11:04 am
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Well, I am caught up for now. I hate to even think how many pages will be here when I get back. :sigh:

If I have time to mafia while I'm away, I'll do it. Otherwise I will see you fine people on Sunday evening or Monday. Image
by indiglo
Sat Mar 19, 2016 12:37 am
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I also wonder if there's something we should know, in case we end up over there. But it sounds like you couldn't do a whole lot to prepare yourself. I suppose that's the way with RL prison too.
by indiglo
Sat Mar 19, 2016 12:29 am
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Re: [NIGHT 5] Turf Wars: Battle of the Hosts

Please just be careful so you don't get shot!
by indiglo
Sat Mar 19, 2016 12:28 am
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Golden wrote:
Prisoner 920077 wrote:As for Prisoner 509, who I see is most likely getting pardoned, I have nothing bad to say. He definitely worked hard post-prison break, and does seem to be angling for a civvie win, and whoever it is certainly seems to be around enough to keep up with the game. I didn't really take extensive notes or anything in the klink so I can't point to any deficiencies, there.
Should there ever be the opportunity for parole in the future, you have my support 920.
Ditto! And I really appreciate how helpful you are still being!
Prisoner 920077 wrote:Actually the thought of possible future paroles has me wondering... is there anything that would help you free players to know, regarding our prison time?I don't mean right now, since as I said, I have no notes, but if there is a chance from future efforts to bust out again, is there anything I can pass on to you at that time that would be worth knowing for you? There are certain rules we work under, and that cannot be talked about, but mostly things are wide open.

I can't think of what would help to know that would work within our rules, but... if there is anything you can think of, maybe lmk so I can be prepared for next time?
I have no idea what goes on over there to even ask. But do you have access to our game thread? Do you know when a new prisoner arrives? Would their arrival time be able to help trace who they may have been in the thread?
by indiglo
Fri Mar 18, 2016 11:21 pm
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@Hosts - I was also wondering, will the paroled player be able to win? Will we be aware of their win conditions?


It did definitely seem like a good thing for civs to me too. I can only imagine that it was, and hope it will continue to be in the future.
by indiglo
Fri Mar 18, 2016 8:30 pm
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Re: [NIGHT 5] Turf Wars: Battle of the Hosts

I had a brainstorm while scooping the litter box. :noble:

Reading DDL's role, I see this:
[Rainbow List]: Once in the game, Sockface can send the host a rainbow list, ranking all the players from most civ to most bad. The 1/3 of the players leaning most bad will be roleblocked for the night, and the 1/3 leaning most civ will be protected from night kills.
So, that one night when no police arrests went through and junk, and we were convinced they had sussed out the Dons... perhaps that isn't true. Perhaps this power was in play? So maybe they don't know the Dons at all.

I had a point to that, but since I didn't come straight here to type (due to kitty litter hands) I can't remember what point I was trying to make. Anyway, there's at least half of a thought. Maybe the rest will come back to me.

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