The Syndicate

MovingPictures07 wrote:it's because I know Llama incredibly well that I believe he would be willing to do something like this.

Long Con wrote: Llama's agenda here is his own

Long Con wrote:And that also flies in the face of my whole theory that a baddie could put trust publicly in a Civ, Boogs. Don't trust Llama when I flip Civ, lynch him next!

Or just change your vote and play a better, more fun game where you don't just take someone out for winning a prize, and instead focus on baddies.

Boogs wrote:I think LC is the way to go and if he flips Civ, we have more Cred now to trust Llama.

MovingPictures07 wrote: What do players think of juliets?

zeek wrote:Well, MP makes a decent case. I do think Mafia should be our priority because they have a kill. But there is legitimate concern that LC, llama and a possible third partner could be Mafia. I'll probably vote either way as well. llama is saying he didn't 180 on LC because of BTSC but is convinced LC is civ. Yeah... something ain't right in that.

I also find declarations like "I have not found a partner" to be a bit bullshitty. Why even say it?

Long Con wrote:Ok, fine, I was hoping that enough people playing aren't just out to punish people who win prizes or buy properties. I thought bidding on cool stuff was going to be a fun and interesting part of the game, and not an instant death sentence. If I was wrong, then I misjudged the game and the players and I'll be lynched today for it.

I thought we were going to focus on the baddies. I thought I could find a partner and be strengthened by getting BTSC and use that to help find and lynch the baddies. I think it would be a more fun game for everyone if we played that way, and I also think that it would be smarter. Even if I find my third colour group person tonight, even if I ALREADY found that person, there's no comparison at all to the level of danger the baddies pose. The worst I could do is build hotels and hope someone lands on them. The baddies are collecting properties all the time. The baddies are making lots of money. This money can be used to bid and win lynched properties.

Let's just focus on the baddies and stop trying to take me out because I found a partner.

Turnip Head wrote:Llama and LC both seem super upset over these new allegations, wonder if that means anything.

Long Con wrote:

thellama73 wrote:I am frankly insulted that you guys think my mafia game is so artless that I would just switch from saying "LC is bad" to "LC is good" because of BTS info. I actually hate when people do that. It is against the spirit of the game. My turnaround on LC was based purely on his in thread behavior. I have not yet found a member of my team. I search SVS night one and she was killed. I searched MP night 2, and he is not on my team.

As for who I'm voting for today, I don't know yet. Looks like I may have to save myself, so we'll see. But I am interested in some of the middle-of-the-road players between chatty and silent.

How about next time, you stay out of my shit, ok?

MovingPictures07 wrote: What do you make of this, Llama?

MovingPictures07 wrote: I don't understand how you thought LC made comments in agreement with keys... in my quick read of the thread, even I did not get anything of that impression.

I believe both of you are mistaken.

Long Con wrote:I am having a lot of trouble reading the dark blue host colour on the dark grey background.

The game definitely seems geared toward turning the general Civvie population into a bunch of baddie groups. Selfish greed over common good. I would advocate, as keys said, that we all just don't send in search PMs, and win together as Civvies, but for two reasons: a) that would go against boo's intentions for the game, and carve out a good deal of fun for us all, and b) there ain't no way that most people would go along with such a plan anyway.

If we did implement such a plan, then we would want to start lynching the winner of the last dead property auction on the following day, as they would obviously not be going along with the plan. That sounds lame too.

So, what do we lynch people for? Instead of lynching players for suspicion of being a Railroad or a Utility, will we lynch a player we suspect is becoming too powerful and rich?

birdwithteeth11 wrote: Alright. I'l go back and re-read what you said, because I don't remember all the details. But if this is indeed the case, then I will take back what I said about you contradicting yourself.

MovingPictures07 wrote:I'm not looking at LC, TH, or Epig today.

boo wrote:Sorry everyone, was having internet issues when I got home so had to get that sorted out. The post will be a little while because I still have to do rolls and check a bunch of PMs.

Epignosis wrote:500 on Atlantic

Now kill me.

Epignosis wrote:I don't play Mafia to make people feel good.

LoRab wrote: linki: I don't kill tonight. Because I don't have a kill. Because I'm not bad.

LoRab wrote: Is this why you voted for me without posting about it?

Long Con wrote:Llama's trust surprises me.

zeek wrote: @Llama - Agreed. Mafia is all about disagreements, but this thing seems to have blown up out of nothing. If you're reading LC as good, what are your thoughts on TH? Kinda feeling like it might be civ-on-civ.

MovingPictures07 wrote:All of that to say I am here now and so psyched about this game!

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

keys56000000000 wrote:So if Llama is right, what incentives, if any, do we have as civilians to work together? Is it mafia vs civs or mafia vs potential mafia?

I'm not convinced that Llama is right, yet. Llama, what incentive do we have to search for teammates? Once you're in a BTSC set, you're playing against everyone. You're going to have to survive every other player. Seems like when you are in a set, your overall chances of winning drop significantly. Especially those 2-player sets. Is there really any reason why we can't stick together as loose civilians? Even if some civs do search, and find their partners, we'd still have the advantage over them. At least that's how it seems to me at this early juncture.

I've signed up for a game where I get a chance to search for BTSC and increase my own power if I succeed. I'm going to take advantage of that opportunity and have fun with it.

Gaining BTSC helps you increase your rent by building houses and hotels, and gaining insight on a partner's knowledge. Otherwise, at some point, you're going to be losing more money than you gain and go bankrupt.

Consider the fact that Penn RR made $150 this turn and Electric company has made ~$350 (I forget the number) in two turns. What has Vermont Ave gotten? $36 I believe.

Black Rock wrote:Should I be keeping a SS?

Mongoose wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Why don't we bold any bid we make to make it clear?

$100 on the extra die if the bid from TH earlier will count (for 60 + 25, being unbolded and not an exact amount).

Linki: Why don't you like the the little game Mongoose? You are ruining the fun where other people are even bidding on Epi, llama, and me.

It's just kinda hard to read. Why stop there? Why not substitute the cent sign for C? or the Euro for E? The British pound sign for L? The possibilities are endless.

juliets wrote: Metalmarsh - why did you vote Long Con?

FZ. wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

FZ. wrote:Epig,

Why did you bid so much? Where were you expecting to get more money from for the other stuff?

I'm eccentric.

I plan to get rich by people landing on my property.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:I have a theory.

The more money he will bet on a power, the more likely another player will check him tonight in the hope that they can partner up with the equal color, being that it would be convenient to have that power on your team. Meaning that the money might return back to him in the future. It might be a gamble, but that'll be the name of the game.

I hadn't thought of that.

Yeah, that was a good theory he came up with

How is what you did going to help you to get people to land on your property? I'm sorry if I'm missing something. I'm too tired

juliets wrote:Black Rock, speaking of hunting down baddies, do you have any suspicions at this point?

Turnip Head wrote:Are you officially joining the challenge llama? I'll put a starter bet of $10 on ya

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

thellama73 wrote:Look, building hotels is the only way we can get money (barring a few chance cards and an occasional pass go.) The Mafia have ample ability to make money and use it to buy property and other goodies, while at the same time depleting our money. If we run out of money, we die. This strategy hands victory to the railroads and utilities. Please think about it for two seconds before posting a reactionary NO U response. You, MM, Long Con, and Keys are working on behalf of the baddies with this sort of talk.

llama, if you win an auction and gain a property card, we can't just assume your role is of the same colour. There's a chance you are trying to prevent another particular player from getting the property, sure. There's also a chance you're a baddie and are collecting sets yourself. I'm using your name as an example.

keys56000000000 wrote:

juliets wrote:Wouldn't people still be posting because it's in everyone's interest to try and find and lynch the baddies?

Once you're in a team, you are the baddies.