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- Tue Feb 14, 2017 6:55 pm
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Re: SAW [Week 1 - "Beneath the Brine"]
Furthermore, I would like to encourage SVS to stay and participate and not take Epignosis seriously. I find her perspective very helpful and informative.
- Tue Feb 14, 2017 6:54 pm
- Forum: Tin Pan Alley
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Re: SAW [Week 1 - "Beneath the Brine"]
If people don't like the Crazy World of Arthur Brown I'm going to set this place on FIRE.MovingPictures07 wrote:Yeah, I'd agree, I just hope that no one would take to heart if their album gets ranked at the bottom or anything of mine once we've gone through 5, 10, or however many. It's obviously not personal, and no one's judgment is better than everyone else's.Golden wrote:I don't think my opinions should make anyone feel bad. I know nothing, and so it's just about what happens to be pleasing to my ears.
- Tue Feb 14, 2017 5:26 pm
- Forum: Tin Pan Alley
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Re: SAW [Week 1 - "Beneath the Brine"]
Does anyone find it useful to rank tracks on an album? I find it very strange. I view an album as a coherent unit of music, not just a collection of songs.
- Tue Feb 14, 2017 2:59 pm
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Re: TSARS [Week 1 - "Beneath the Brine"]
Do you have an opinion on the above-mentioned ambiguity of Make Me a Boat?Golden wrote:On a second listen, I got more from some of those tracks, though. The weakest tracks on the album are, for me, ones that lack in lyrical originality as well as musical originality.
- Tue Feb 14, 2017 12:19 am
- Forum: Tin Pan Alley
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Re: TSARS [Week 1 - "Beneath the Brine"]
I thought he had a rather feminine voice as well, so Golden isn't crazy. Took me a minute to tell whether it was a man or a women in the first track.
- Mon Feb 13, 2017 5:53 pm
- Forum: Tin Pan Alley
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Re: TSARS [Week 1 - "Beneath the Brine"]
Make me a boatnutella wrote:Llama, I also love The Water's Fine, and yeah I do get what you mean about the tone of those tracks toward the end but I still enjoy italso lol that first interpretation of make me a boat never occurred to me
And set me afloat
And carry me home
Find me a wave
Thats soft and safe
And made for me
Seriously, which one is it!?
- Mon Feb 13, 2017 4:52 pm
- Forum: Tin Pan Alley
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Re: TSARS [Week 1 - "Beneath the Brine"]
More thoughts after the second listen:
Some of the songs are excellent; I particularly like The Water's Fine. And as I said before, I appreciate the lush orchestration and arrangements.
I do find that the album runs out of steam at about the 35 minute mark, and the last few tracks feel more or less like repetitions of what has come before. I also find the tone of tracks like As We Move Along and There's a Thunder overly saccharine. That sort of "gosh, look how amazing everything is!" attitude wears thin after a while.
Apparently not included in the youtube link is the album's last track, the frustratingly ambiguous "Make Me a Boat", available here. Does it mean "transform me into a boat" or "fashion a boat for my use"? The lyrics are no help.
Some of the songs are excellent; I particularly like The Water's Fine. And as I said before, I appreciate the lush orchestration and arrangements.
I do find that the album runs out of steam at about the 35 minute mark, and the last few tracks feel more or less like repetitions of what has come before. I also find the tone of tracks like As We Move Along and There's a Thunder overly saccharine. That sort of "gosh, look how amazing everything is!" attitude wears thin after a while.
Apparently not included in the youtube link is the album's last track, the frustratingly ambiguous "Make Me a Boat", available here. Does it mean "transform me into a boat" or "fashion a boat for my use"? The lyrics are no help.
- Mon Feb 13, 2017 4:16 pm
- Forum: Tin Pan Alley
- Topic: SAW [Week 64 - "Home of the Strange"]
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Re: TSARS [Week 1 - "Beneath the Brine"]
I have to say I'm enjoying the album much more on the second listen. I've concluded that there are no samplers and all the instruments are indeed played by humans, which is nice. Some of the "whoa oh oh" vocals on the second and third tracks are mildly annoying to me. They remind me of The Polyphonic Spree. But I don't mind the vocals as much as I did, and some of the arrangements are very nice and intricate.
- Mon Feb 13, 2017 4:00 pm
- Forum: Tin Pan Alley
- Topic: SAW [Week 64 - "Home of the Strange"]
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Re: TSARS [Week 1 - "Beneath the Brine"]
Embarking on a second listen now.
- Mon Feb 13, 2017 3:20 pm
- Forum: Tin Pan Alley
- Topic: SAW [Week 64 - "Home of the Strange"]
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Re: TSARS [Week 1 - "Beneath the Brine"]
I generally don't like indie music, and I fully agree with SVS's assessment, so I suspect that's it.MovingPictures07 wrote:I'm drawing an interesting parallel with you saying this right now; I remember a few folks on ProgArchives who couldn't stand The Decemberists for nearly the exact same reason you describe here. Colin Meloy's vocals never bothered me either, but now that you mention this, it was a parallel that struck me as intriguing and worth bringing up. I know you're a Decemberists fan so you likely don't feel that way about them, but perhaps it's an indie thing?S~V~S wrote:I don't like his (her?) voice. It is jarring to me and doesn't mesh well musically with the instrumentals imo. The vocals stand out too much and it is almost discordant to my ears/taste.
Personal preference, I guess.
- Mon Feb 13, 2017 2:52 pm
- Forum: Tin Pan Alley
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Re: TSARS [Week 1 - "Beneath the Brine"]
I see they have a real violinist and flautist, but I think I heard some sampled violin section behind it to give it body. I'll have to listen again.
- Mon Feb 13, 2017 2:47 pm
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Re: TSARS [Week 1 - "Beneath the Brine"]
Interestingly, I like the cello playing more than most of the other musicianship, because it sounds so real. The rest of the orchestration gives the impression of being composed of sampling (it may not be, but it sounds so smooth that I suspect it) whereas the cello is unmistakably a human player, and I like that.Golden wrote:I listened to the first 2 tracks so far (I assume... the YouTube clip doesn't split them)
It's interesting. I think the melodic choices are a little more mainstream than I was expecting (probably just because I expect you all to be weirdos). I hear Muse influences in the first track. I really enjoyed the track, including the vocalist. Next pass I'll try to listen to the lyrics more closely. If I had one criticism, that cello player is attacking the thing so hard that you get those tuneless screeches, which clashes with my classical musician sensibilities perhaps, or maybe it's just a love/hate relationship I have with strings generally. It does have a bit of 'cello guys' to it though.
The second track was nice but gave me less to talk about.
- Mon Feb 13, 2017 2:18 pm
- Forum: Tin Pan Alley
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Re: TSARS [Week 1 - "Beneath the Brine"]
Would you say this is an accurate description?MovingPictures07 wrote:Oh man, that opening to the first song, that draws me in for sure. Nice.MovingPictures07 wrote:Going to listen to Beneath the Brine for the first time now. I'm stoked!
I won't further comment until I've heard this whole thing at least once though.
thellama73 wrote:It starts with a flute playing the same note twice. Then a cello. Then a choir, violin, and drums. Then a singer sings some words. That's as far as I've gotten so far.
- Mon Feb 13, 2017 10:35 am
- Forum: Tin Pan Alley
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Re: TSARS [Week 1 - "Beneath the Brine"]
Yes is still better than Genesis. I don't care if those polls always went the other way.MovingPictures07 wrote:What's going on? I thought I clicked on The Syndicate. This looks more like ProgArchives.
Next thing you know there will be 10 polls on Yes vs. Genesis.
- Mon Feb 13, 2017 10:15 am
- Forum: Tin Pan Alley
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Re: TSARS [Week 1 - "Beneath the Brine"]
A troll, but a troll who in this instance was correct.
- Sun Feb 12, 2017 10:30 pm
- Forum: Tin Pan Alley
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Re: TSARS [Week 1 - "Beneath the Brine"]
I won't be doing any kind of systematic rating or ranking of the albums. I'll just post my thoughts and opinions about them.
- Sun Feb 12, 2017 9:38 pm
- Forum: Tin Pan Alley
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Re: TSARS [Week 1 - "Beneath the Brine"]
Walter was the wisest man I've ever known.MovingPictures07 wrote:I knew it was only a matter of time before you dropped that Walter reference.thellama73 wrote:I completely agree. I would like it much more if it were instrumental.S~V~S wrote:I love the orchestration. So far, two tracks in, I can say I would like this much better if it were instrumental only. I really, really don't like the vocalist. Her (?) voice does not seem to go well with the instrumentation. Perhaps it is me; I cannot think what vocalist I might like better with this. I really like the music as an instrumental.
I also forgot that no good music has been made after 1989, so that's probably part of it.
- Sun Feb 12, 2017 8:56 pm
- Forum: Tin Pan Alley
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Re: TSARS [Week 1 - "Beneath the Brine"]
I completely agree. I would like it much more if it were instrumental.S~V~S wrote:I love the orchestration. So far, two tracks in, I can say I would like this much better if it were instrumental only. I really, really don't like the vocalist. Her (?) voice does not seem to go well with the instrumentation. Perhaps it is me; I cannot think what vocalist I might like better with this. I really like the music as an instrumental.
I also forgot that no good music has been made after 1989, so that's probably part of it.
- Sun Feb 12, 2017 6:42 pm
- Forum: Tin Pan Alley
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Re: TSARS [Week 1 - "Beneath the Brine"]
I intend to listen to it more before making a final opinion though. One hearing is surely not enough.
- Sun Feb 12, 2017 6:41 pm
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Re: TSARS [Week 1 - "Beneath the Brine"]
I dug some of the lush orchestration, but the whole thing felt sort of cheeseball and overwrought to me. Like it was trying too hard to be epic. It reminded me a little of The Darkness with that vocalist really taking things over the top.Golden wrote:Hey, this is the place for analysis. It's ok not to like things (some of you aren't going to like my tastes, and I'm not sure I'm going to like some of yours). But, I think the idea is to put your finger on why.
- Sun Feb 12, 2017 6:38 pm
- Forum: Tin Pan Alley
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Re: TSARS [Week 1 - "Beneath the Brine"]
Would it be unkind to Nutella for me to say that I didn't love this album on the first listen?
- Sun Feb 12, 2017 4:50 pm
- Forum: Tin Pan Alley
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Re: SARS [Week 1 - "Beneath the Brine"]
It starts with a flute playing the same note twice. Then a cello. Then a choir, violin, and drums. Then a singer sings some words. That's as far as I've gotten so far.
- Sun Feb 12, 2017 4:35 pm
- Forum: Tin Pan Alley
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Re: Syndicate Album Ranking and Sharing [First Poll]
That's because I AM THE GOD OF HELLFIRE!JaggedJimmyJay wrote:I've deferred to llama.
- Sat Feb 11, 2017 8:42 pm
- Forum: Tin Pan Alley
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Re: Syndicate Album Ranking and Sharing [First Poll]
My votes are in!
- Fri Feb 10, 2017 2:28 pm
- Forum: Tin Pan Alley
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Re: New activity maybe
Great album, Trice. Absolutely great. ![clap :clap:](./images/smilies/smiley32.gif)
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- Fri Feb 10, 2017 2:03 pm
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Re: New activity maybe
Ah, the good old days when an album could get away with being under a half hour. I really hate the expectation thta all albums clock in at 70 minutes these days, and think it has been detrimental to music. I generally think the perfect album length is between 35-40 minutes.G-Man wrote:I've long held the belief that you can't appreciate where things are now without an understanding (if not an appreciation) of the past. My submission:
Chuck Berry
Chuck Berry Is on Top
Genre: Rock and roll
1959
12 tracks
29:26
YouTube Playlist- Listen to the first six tracks (through Johnny B Goode), then listen to this solo track (Little Queenie), then resume the playlist.
Sorry for the split-up nature of this submission. This is my favorite of Berry's albums. I almost submitted his first album, After School Session, but I feel like this is album (his third) is a tad better.
- Fri Feb 10, 2017 12:51 pm
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Re: New activity maybe
I don't have a problem with a poll, but it should not last longer than a day to keep things moving. I don't object to weekly listens, because people are busy. Mayb poll goes up on Monday, listening begins on Tuesday, discussion and Wrap-up on Friday, weekends off.
- Fri Feb 10, 2017 11:38 am
- Forum: Tin Pan Alley
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Re: New activity maybe
My nomination/submission is The Crazy World of Arthur Brown. The album starts at 18:54 in that link, because for some reason the CD reissue puts the bonus tracks at the beginning instead of the end.
- Thu Feb 09, 2017 4:09 pm
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Re: New activity maybe
Love it. Let's do it.