The Syndicate

I was convinced CBK was bad for a really long time, so I proudly wear the Cwapface badge as well.

I have to say, I was pretty pleased with myself that I was able to use my power to role hint to the two peoplw who most wanted to lynch me without the host punishing me for it. Too bad I was killed shortly thereafter,

Spacedaisy wrote:Both SVS and borokkuei impressed me greatly with their ability to talk their way out of what would normally get someone lynched straight off. Well played guys.

I feel ashamed that I didn't impress you.

Mongoose wrote:I am looking for a game with minimal effort involved.

Well, my dear lady, you should play thellama73's Minimalism Mafia. Coming soon to a theater near you.

NEW MAFIA GAME NOW PLZ

Strongbad never answered my message. I demand that he do so now.

I want to immediately call out Birdwithteeth for PLAGIARIZING his ghost story. You suck, BWT.

Spacedaisy wrote:I have had some discussion with one of the players and have decided to rescind the punishment from the last poll. But be warned that from here on out, if you miss the vote you will be starting the next poll with a vote against you.

Boo! Never show weakness as a host! They will eat you alive!

MovingPictures07 wrote:
timmer wrote::
Spacedaisy wrote:Six out of fourteen voters is unacceptable. Anyone who missed the vote will start the next lynch poll with plus one to their name. I will add another vote every time you miss one from here on out. I have been a very forgiving host, but this is where I draw the line.
Rezz me and I'll vote every time.

Same.

Me three. This is what happens when you ignore my advice and let the non-participants stick around.

MovingPictures07 wrote:Well, it was a blast! Thank you greatly, Daisy, for hosting such an awesome game. Sad I felt I had to go, but hopefully it's for the best of the cause.

Go civvies!!!

I can't express how pleased I am that my (eventual) read on you was right. If you had pulled the wool over my eyes this game, I would have had to quit the game in humiliation.

Spacedaisy wrote:An hour and a half before the vote closes and I only have four votes in...

If I were alive I would vote in your poll, Daisy. I'm sorry the living players don't respect your game as much as I did.

S~V~S wrote:My point was that I am asking for people to give me the Cliff Notes version, since I really do not want to have to catch up again.

Hard luck for you that the King of the Summarizers has been slain.

S~V~S wrote:Well, the person I replaced was pretty much a no show as far as i could tell, and Trogdor killed before i joined the game, and I was around the night he apparently missed one kill so *shrug*. So I think you are stretching, but I agree it is an easy stretch to make.

Linki~And other than defending against the indefensible, i.e., what did not happen (and could have not happened for more reasons than one person lost their net for a few days), what am I answering to exactly, Mongoose? could you summarize for me? I was not totally caught up BEFORE i lost my connection, so catching up totally at this point would be too daunting, and i don;t want to ask to be replaced at this point.

At least you're not dead in all your current Syndicate games.

MovingPictures07 wrote: Borokkuei, what do you think of Dom?

I think he is late with the host post in Into The Woods. And that makes me feel angry!

I can't believe you killed me, Blue Laser! I am really bitter about that.

I can has rez please?

Interesting choice, Snow Dog. Are you confident that Trogdor will not send in a PM, or do you have some kind of protection, or do you just want to die?

Snow Dog wrote:I want to hear more from Gleam. I want to be convinced he is not the Cheerleader.

But meantime I will try and reread him. How sure are we that Llama is civ. Can he not be the role pegged for Gleam. I'm getting paranoid again.

I certainly could be, but I promise you I'm not. MP knows this and Matt F knew it before abandoning me.

Spacedaisy wrote: Blue Laser Commander - Commander of Blue Laser, the arch enemies of the Cheat Commandos. He is the Team's Don, is not able to be NKed until all his minions are dead. Night Kill on odd nights.

He can't be NKed. It says nothing about being lynched.

Matahari wrote:i saw a commercial for a reality show called Modern Dads, and I only saw an instant of the commercial, but one of the dads looked like the pic you posted of Nev in twin peaks. Lol, thought maybe we had a star on site.

He is a recent dad, but if he's on a reality show, I haven't heard about it. I think I would hear about, though, since he's married to my sister.

Matahari wrote:quick question for friends of Nevinera: is he on tv?

He has never been on TV as far as I know. Why?

I've got a few people I'm looking at. The daylight should reveal more of the direction I want to go.

MovingPictures07 wrote: Based on the way it all went down and his behavior and suspicions, I would guess he is the cheerleader. But even if he is there is o point in voting him any further for now and there is the chance he could be a civvie, even if I don't necessarily believe it to be true.

This is exactly how I feel. No point in voting for Gleam until the rest of the Girl Squad is dealt with. But it is good to have him marked as a Cheerleader candidate for later, anyway.

Snow Dog wrote:
thellama73 wrote:I guess now we know why Gleam didn't really bother to defend himself for so long.
Hold on. maybe he also doesn't know how he survived.

That is possible, but I don't believer a protector, who has already used one protection on me, would go out of their way to protect Gleam.

I guess now we know why Gleam didn't really bother to defend himself for so long.

Welcome Indiglo! I hope Matt told you the things he knew before leaving.

Now who's unlynchable, Cheerleader Gleam?

I seem to have developed a corneal ulcer, so I doubt if I will be participating much today.

A couple of things though:
1. I am far from unlynchable. Far from it! (please don't test this, though.)
2. Welcoem LT! It is great to have you, although I will miss Bea as well.
3. It's fine that you don't see what I see in Gleam. I totally understand that, since my quick vote was maybe 70% gut based anyway (which I pointed out earlier.) I remain confident that we will see a baddie lynched today.

^Because if I were the third civ to assert info on a poll, I wouldn't jump to the conclusion that all factions got info. And because he has made no effort to respond to my accusations. Innocent people defend themselves.

bea wrote:I feel like I'm missing something regarding llama's opinion that CBK has been inconsistent in her posting. Can you show me where?

This is the main post that stood out to me:
http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 920#p34475
I don't think her criticism of MP here makes sense. It feels contrived, like "I have to say something, so I might as well go after MP." I have found her posts pingy in a general sort of way since very early in the game, but have been giving her a bit of a pass since I don't know her play style.

Popping into the thread every once in a while, saying something that sounds meaningful but isn't really, then disappearing again into the aether is something I have seen baddies do before and it is a good way to avoid drawing attention to oneself without being completely absent.

Still, I am more confident about Gleam and would urge people to put their votes there instead.

Agility trials are not a real thing. I call shenanigans.

MovingPictures07 wrote:Ugh, I know I said I would try to stay back a lot this period, but I am taking a really short break from studying and want to really emphasize one thing -- I think a lynch of AP would be really unwise. I still don't get the suspicion at all; his behavior doesn't make sense if he was a baddie at all. It's just normal AP. I have a hard time believing he'll come up baddie or Trogdor. My two cents on the matter.

Carry on.

If this is normal AP, what is baddie AP like?

juliets wrote:llama is there anyone else you think we should consider today?

Yes!
I'm still mighty distrustful of A Person, and pretty much everything CBK says strikes me as inconsistent and ping-worthy.

I can say categorically that I am not under any posting restriction or voting requirement today, since people seem to be worried about that.

BigDamnHero wrote: There's probably other scenarios that could play out that I haven't fully processed yet, but I think those are the basics. Most of them either end badly or don't serve the best interests of the civilians in general. So let me posit you this:
IF we were to follow your lead (and by no means is this an endorsement or suggestion that we should follow you), would you be willing to let yourself be lynched next should the results of a Gleam lynch be less than favorable?

Also, I don't know if you missed it or just wanted to avoid my earlier question to you all together, but what was your opinion of Devin before Lizzy was revealed to be King of town and did her role reveal change any opinion you had of Devin?

I meant to answer that but I must have forgotten, sorry. I remain confident that Devin was civ, but I never had a specific role picked out for him, so Lizzy's lynch didn't change that.

Regarding your other question, no of course I will not allow myself to be lynched if I can possibly help it. Why would I agree to that?
I don't know for sure that Gleam is bad, but I strongly believe it and there comes a time when I man has to trust his intuition.

@juliets: it was more the "I think all the factions got info" part that pinged me. If gleam is a civ and believed Snow and Bullz, it seems an odd assumption to make. If Gleam is bad, he would then know that at least two factions had info.

MovingPictures07 wrote: I don’t know about anyone else, but even though my life has been pretty crazy, I have enjoyed the hell out of this game. As someone who has hosted multiple times, I know how insanely time consuming and difficult it is to host a mafia game, and sometimes it can be easy to feel unappreciated, so I just want to say I’ve been enjoying this game SO much, and I want to give a thanks to Daisy for hosting it. I try to express this sentiment every time I play a game because I know just how much effort goes into hosting a game, but sometimes it’s very easy to let it go unsaid. Considering things have seemed a bit frustrating given Matt F’s post and the lack of PMs, and just how insanely intense this game has been from a posting standpoint (I take most of the blame for this), I just wanted to put this out there, because in the end this is a game, designed to be fun, and nothing to be taken way too seriously so as to impede that. I know stepping back for a day or so has really helped me realize that I was perhaps seeming a bit too intense, so I thought this was worth noting. Likewise to everyone else who is playing, thanks for playing, because it’s been really great getting to play with all of you!

I completely agree that this game has been awesome! Thanks so much Daisy, you are doing a great job!

I really wish I had seen Matt's post. I hate being left in the dark.

juliets wrote:MR F - Don't go! I think you're civv and we don't need any of them to leave. Please stay!.

llama, gleam huh. Can you offer any more in the way of proof? I trust you llama but what happened to cause this sudden certainty?

This is my analsyis from before, which I think is a fairly good case considering how little gleam has poster.

"agleaminranks: This post caught my eye.

agleaminranks wrote: What most concerns me is the behind-the-scenes information regarding the first poll. Frankly, given the small number of allegiances, I find it unlikely that there would have been anyone who would not have received some sort of information regarding a possible additional result from the Day 1 poll, either beneficial or detrimental, as some people have indicated. I myself also received information on a certain location. It feels to me like the small number of locales available would have to have some sort of impact on every faction involved.

I'm of the suspicion that Alex received background information, and had a similar deduction to this, putting out feelers just to see who responded and who didn't with that sort of information. Anyone who answered truthfully given my suspicions are correct don't really raise any red flags in my eye, as all that confirms for me is that they are indeed possibly good or bad. Anonymous as they started out. I'm more suspicious of the people who claimed to have no background information whatsoever, for the reasons I've mentioned above. Hence, I must cast an early vote for the one I noticed being most adamant about their ignorance: Vomps.

Gleam is the third person to admit having info on the poll, and he believes every faction received info. I think Snow Dog and Bullzeye are probably civ, so this would either mean he would be the third civ with info (seems unlikely) or from a different faction."

Other than that it's just a strong gut feeling. I really believe that many of the baddies are hiding among the low posters and gleam has been most suspicious to me. He never addressed this point when I brought it up earlier, hoping no one would take me seriously, I imagine.

Matt F wrote:You must be losin' it, AP.

Anyway, I can no longer play guys, something's come up.

I had fun, Daisy, thanks for letting me play.

No fair being so cryptic. You have to tell us!

Also, don't leave, I need you as one of my defenders.

Dom wrote:This kind of stuff is getting old if you ask me.

Mixing it up! Going all in! Keeping you guessing! That's the llama way!

Mongoose wrote:He said something yesterday that I thought made him sound mighty culpable, but I can't remember what it was because this book is really good, so I will have to find it tomorrow, but I will do it before I vote though for fairness sake, and yes, this is a run-on sentence so don't alert Epi.

I'll tell you what, I usually don't do this, but I am so sure that Gleam is bad that I am going to vote for him SUPER EARLY. Everybody follow me and bandwagon onto Gleam, and great rewards will follow.

It's gleamers, I'm telling you. Vote gleamers.

Snow Dog wrote:
thellama73 wrote:
Mongoose wrote:Is it unfair if we speculate about the Troggyness of those with intermittent internet access? I'm not referring to any one person since this has been a continuous thing
They knew what they were signing up for. They should be prepared to face the consequences.
I wish I was Trogdor. Seems a great role.

No kidding. Whoever has it is squandering their gift!

Mongoose wrote:Is it unfair if we speculate about the Troggyness of those with intermittent internet access? I'm not referring to any one person since this has been a continuous thing

They knew what they were signing up for. They should be prepared to face the consequences.

Vompatti wrote:
thellama73 wrote:
Vompatti wrote:
thellama73 wrote:
Vompatti wrote:I think Strongsad is implying that MP is Trogdor.
Strongsad doesn't know anything.
Do you know more than Strongsad does?
Vastly more. About a wide range of topics.
Are any of these topics directly related to this game?

My philosophy is that everything is related to everything else. You can't fully understand economics unless you understand psychology. You can't understand psychology without understanding biology. You can't understand biology without understanding chemistry. You can't understand chemistry without understanding physics, and you can't understand physics without understanding mathematics.

Vompatti wrote:
thellama73 wrote:
Vompatti wrote:I think Strongsad is implying that MP is Trogdor.
Strongsad doesn't know anything.
Do you know more than Strongsad does?

Vastly more. About a wide range of topics.

Vompatti wrote:I think Strongsad is implying that MP is Trogdor.

Strongsad doesn't know anything.

If A Person is telling the truth about not sending in Hut PMs, someone should be dead, unless Trogdor is... or unless AP is Trogdor!

Is it possible that Trogdor is already dead?

I'm going to feel like a massive sucker if I end up being wrong, but at this point I'm prepared to believe Alex is telling the truth. He sounds convincing to me.

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