Meta is a Greek derived prefix that denotes being outside or beyond something else. Metaphysics deals with concepts beyond the scope of regular physics. In mafia, the metagame involves looking at considerations outside of the framework of the current game, such as how players played in the past.
For that which goes beyond even the meta, the prefix is "pata." See: the works of the absurdist Alfred Jarry and his exploration of pataphysics.
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- Thu Oct 01, 2015 2:10 pm
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- Tue Sep 29, 2015 2:59 pm
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Re: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (End Game)
I bear no ill will towards Aapje. I salute his playing.
- Tue Sep 29, 2015 9:27 am
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Re: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (End Game)
This is my first time playing an outed baddie. It was fun.
- Tue Sep 29, 2015 8:55 am
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Re: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (End Game)
Congrats to the winners! Thanks for the game, BR and LC! I had fun.
But most importantly... I've still NEVER been lynched as a baddie! You had me sweating there at the end that I would break that streak.
But most importantly... I've still NEVER been lynched as a baddie! You had me sweating there at the end that I would break that streak.
- Mon Sep 28, 2015 10:45 pm
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Re: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (Day 14)
And yet he still lives.Devin the Omniscient wrote:I think a fair guess would be that llama voted for MM

- Mon Sep 28, 2015 10:36 pm
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Re: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (Day 14)
Occam's razor has led me astray many times in mafia. I don't remember who I voted for.S~V~S wrote:Does anyone have results of the Nutella lynch? I am curious about who did NOT vote for her. I am curious if the same people did NOT vote for Llama as well.
Linki @Llama, wow, excuse of cornered baddies everywhere~ Target Redirectors!!!
Occams says she rezzed you. I believe it. id YOU vote for Nutella, Llama?
No offense taken, old friend.Devin the Omniscient wrote:The "freakin" was not aimed at you, llama. It's just the frustration of having 1 more vote. Just wanted to clarify

- Mon Sep 28, 2015 10:07 pm
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Re: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (Day 14)
You don't know who I was rezzed by. YOu also don't know who the rezzer meant to target, sice there are target redirecting powers in play.S~V~S wrote:Are you seriously saying this or is this a joke? You were rezzed by the baddie team rezzer, lol. You're bad, no silly word play required. Devin might be bad too, but it is guaranteed that you are bad, my friend.thellama73 wrote:You should really vote for Devin. He's the devil.S~V~S wrote:I am going to vote for 24 & for Llama. Nutella rezzed him, is there any doubt? While Devin is also suspish, a rezzed baddie is the MOST suspish.
I have to do some catch up here, I have only really read the posts and skimmed somewhat, I have had a brutal week irl. But i read enough to know that the confiremed bad rezzer rezzed llama.
Linki, no, i just have one.
Devil = Devin. Obvious really.
- Mon Sep 28, 2015 10:04 pm
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Re: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (Day 14)
You should really vote for Devin. He's the devil.S~V~S wrote:I am going to vote for 24 & for Llama. Nutella rezzed him, is there any doubt? While Devin is also suspish, a rezzed baddie is the MOST suspish.
I have to do some catch up here, I have only really read the posts and skimmed somewhat, I have had a brutal week irl. But i read enough to know that the confiremed bad rezzer rezzed llama.
Linki, no, i just have one.
Devil = Devin. Obvious really.
- Mon Sep 28, 2015 9:07 pm
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Re: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (Day 14)
Maybe I'll switch my vote.
- Mon Sep 28, 2015 8:00 pm
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Re: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (Day 14)
Stop being so evil, Devin.Devin the Omniscient wrote:Sooooo, Noone willing to change their vote to llama? Wanna talk about it? Or just leave Devin to his fate?

- Mon Sep 28, 2015 3:48 pm
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Re: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (Day 14)
No comment.Bullzeye wrote:Actually Llama, I suppose it'd be fair to say Azura has complete and total control over not only your vote but also your actions?
- Mon Sep 28, 2015 3:23 pm
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Re: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (Day 14)
I might be having my vote controlled, but I refuse to say because I am a good sport.Bullzeye wrote:I highly doubt six people are having their votes controlled. Obviously Llama isn't, clearly he has at least two teammates helping him here.
- Mon Sep 28, 2015 1:31 pm
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Re: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (Day 14)
Obviously I am fooling people, because people think I''m bad when I'm totally not.Spacedaisy wrote:You can drop the pretense, you're not fooling anyone. A for Effort though.thellama73 wrote:Except I'm not bad. Don't drink the kool-aid.bea wrote:I'm voting llama. I think anyone who is not forced to vote otherwise and not on llama's team should do the same. We can't not at least TRY to take out the known baddie.
vote llama
- Mon Sep 28, 2015 1:11 pm
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Re: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (Day 14)
Except I'm not bad. Don't drink the kool-aid.bea wrote:I'm voting llama. I think anyone who is not forced to vote otherwise and not on llama's team should do the same. We can't not at least TRY to take out the known baddie.
vote llama
- Sun Sep 27, 2015 6:30 pm
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Re: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (Day 14)
You are so bad. I can't wait to be vindicated on this.Devin the Omniscient wrote:What tomfuckery are you 2 up to?
How do you figure that llama is unlynchable in 2 different positions?
And why do you think I'm the executioner?
- Sat Sep 26, 2015 10:37 am
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Re: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (Night 13)
Whichever one you like the most.reywaS wrote:which position should I vote for?
- Sat Sep 26, 2015 10:26 am
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Re: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (Night 13)
Your phony outrage is as transparent as the transparent aluminum the crew of the Enterprise used to get the whales back to the future so they could save the world in Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home.
- Sat Sep 26, 2015 10:25 am
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Re: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (Night 13)
Devin, stop pretending to be a good guy. We all know what side your bread is buttered on.
- Sat Sep 26, 2015 9:06 am
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Re: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (Night 13)
Oh look, I'm alive. You guys are all so mean to me.
Position 5.
Position 5.
- Fri Sep 25, 2015 11:08 pm
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Re: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (Day 13)
Canucklehead wrote:I'm voting for llama. I think the notion of letting a known baddie live another day and, more importantly, another NIGHT, is absurd, and I'm surprised that people are letting themselves be talked into it by a serial killer and a person if unknown allegiance.
- Fri Sep 25, 2015 10:12 pm
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- Fri Sep 25, 2015 11:37 am
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Re: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (Day 13)
It's gotten quiet around here. Everyone retreating ton their BTSC caves?
- Thu Sep 24, 2015 5:17 pm
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Re: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (Day 13)
Let's mind the needless insults, shall we?Sorsha wrote:Well then your friends were not too smart to rez you on a day that a baddie has a rez....thellama73 wrote:There have been competitions in this game, and competitions usually carry prizes. Maybe I have friends who are good at competitions.
- Thu Sep 24, 2015 12:55 pm
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Re: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (Day 13)
Do you admire me?Devin the Omniscient wrote:I know getting votes is frustrating, and I'm sorry for that. And I admire you for sticking with your guns. But I'm going to stick with mine, too.
- Thu Sep 24, 2015 11:05 am
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Re: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (Day 13)
Hey, uncalled for.Turnip Head wrote:You almost have to wonder why anyone bothered to rezz Llama at all
- Thu Sep 24, 2015 10:44 am
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Re: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (Day 13)
There have been competitions in this game, and competitions usually carry prizes. Maybe I have friends who are good at competitions.
- Thu Sep 24, 2015 10:43 am
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Re: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (Day 13)
Who says nutella rezzed me? Like, broaden your mind, man.
- Thu Sep 24, 2015 10:41 am
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Re: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (Day 13)
I think you mean blatantly innocent.Bullzeye wrote:How can you be sure Ubzargan didn't switch the lynch last time Llama was up? Unless of course you're on that team. He was rezzed by one of Azura's recruits, he's blatantly a baddie.Metalmarsh89 wrote:I really don't think you can be lynched today.thellama73 wrote:I really don't thnk you guys should lynch me. Metalmarsh is the droid you're looking for.
- Thu Sep 24, 2015 9:49 am
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Re: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (Day 13)
I really don't thnk you guys should lynch me. Metalmarsh is the droid you're looking for.
- Wed Sep 23, 2015 3:12 pm
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Re: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (Night 12)
I knew I should have lynched you when I had the chance, you fiend. Stop spreading lies about me. There are other rezzes besides Nutella's. Why is she called LA anyway?Bullzeye wrote:Llama was likely to have been rezzed by LA. Her role had a rez in this position. Do baddies often rezz non-teammates, in your experience?reywaS wrote:Ok, I have a question about the whole "let's definitely lynch llama tomorrow" thing. I could very well be missing something here, but that's the purpose of the question.
Why is llama the obvious choice to be a team mate of nutella rather than, say, Turnip Head or Bullzeye who were the most vocal advocates for abandoning the idea of lynching nutella in order to get rid of me?
Linki - I went off the post detailing all living and dead players, which doesn't include failed kill attempts. I literally listed the four names on the dead list described as killed by the Mercenary.
- Wed Sep 23, 2015 8:53 am
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Re: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (Night 12)
You guys are awfully quick to stick a knife in my back. I'm glad we got nutella. She had me fooled, but if you think I am on her team, you are nuts.
Position 1 seems fine.
Position 1 seems fine.
- Tue Sep 22, 2015 7:26 pm
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Re: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (Day 12)
Guys, I think Reywas sounds really disingenuous with his dealmaking propositions and his alleged neutrality. It's really making me uncomfortable. I'm moving my vote back to him.
- Tue Sep 22, 2015 3:31 pm
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Re: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (Day 12)
Well, if it's not going to be a tie, I'm going back to MM. I like ties.
- Tue Sep 22, 2015 2:50 pm
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Re: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (Day 12)
Rey is not persuading me, and I like ties (as well as being fairly neutral on Nutella) so let's tie it up, shall we?
- Tue Sep 22, 2015 11:31 am
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Re: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (Day 12)
What, nothing?Metalmarsh89 wrote:I didn't nightkill you. I had nothing to do with your death.thellama73 wrote:Why did you nightkill me?Metalmarsh89 wrote:rewaS, why did you nightkill llama?
Would you be willing to do it again?
- Tue Sep 22, 2015 11:28 am
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Re: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (Day 12)
Why did you nightkill me?Metalmarsh89 wrote:rewaS, why did you nightkill llama?
Would you be willing to do it again?
- Tue Sep 22, 2015 9:34 am
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Re: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (Day 10)
Rey's chamioning of neutrality struck me as odd, almost forced. I think he was recruited sometime between this:
And this:reywaS wrote:Ok, I feel like I've caught up enough.
I voted DrWilgy because I don't like the votes on S~V~S and llama. They both feel civ to me, and in fact I agree with S~V~S post on Bullzeye talking about how he's been around plenty but didn't have any solid opinions on anyone. Then bullz got kind of defensive and then maybe went a little overboard trying to make up for his previous lack of opinion. Bullz definitely came off as baddie to me in that exchange.
His posts have also seemed less substantive since then, like he is trying to hide in the background.reywaS wrote:vote llama
what the hell
- Tue Sep 22, 2015 9:13 am
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Re: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (Day 11)
Okay, I agree with TH that this is some fishy business. Epi's role has been fairly obvious for a while now, so either Rey wasn't paying attention (which I can relate to) or he's up to no good. Not sure which yet. Still reading.reywaS wrote:I'm not sure what to make of these developments. Epig turns the lynch in nutella's direction and people follow with little resistance. Did you guys trust DH to this extent, or did Epi all on his own convince you he's trustworthy? Not that I necessarily think Epi is bad...just seems weird.
Turnip Head, where you voting?
- Tue Sep 22, 2015 9:07 am
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Re: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (Day 12)
I have to look at Rey now.
- Tue Sep 22, 2015 9:07 am
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Re: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (Day 12)
I'm with Spacedaisy. MM has been coasting on snark this game while avoiding any serious attention. The more I see of his cavalier play, the more convinced I become that he is a bad, bad man. It doesn't look like an MM lynch is in the cards today, but I urge other people to examine him more closely.Spacedaisy wrote:Two other people who I believe we should be discussing right now are MM and Devin.
MM, the Nutella/bwt lynch was clearly going towards Nutella, then he changed his vote to make it a tie. Then he complained about a tie that he created. I think it wasn't really a tie, I think that the lynch was moved to David to ensure Nutella didn't die. But your vote moving from Nutella to David was done to cover that up. If I was to vote anyone other than Nutella, I would vote you.
Devin. Come on man, you are just phoning it in. You have clearly been latching onto everyone else's suspicions for a while now if not all game, and been as blends as can be. I don't trust you.
- Mon Sep 21, 2015 6:06 pm
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Re: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (Day 12)
I'm not sketchy. You're sketchy.
I'll have to catch up tonight, guys.
I'll have to catch up tonight, guys.
- Mon Sep 21, 2015 5:33 pm
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- Thu Sep 17, 2015 9:04 am
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Re: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (Night 10)
Well, I'm glad I'm not dead. Thanks for believing in me, guys.
- Wed Sep 16, 2015 11:24 pm
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Re: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (Day 10)
Those are not the only options.Sorsha wrote:It's still better than "MM is being too nice lets lynch him"thellama73 wrote:Great. Thanks for that.Sorsha wrote: I guess I'll be voting llama as well today. It's not a super strong case but
- Wed Sep 16, 2015 11:12 pm
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Re: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (Day 10)
Your wisdom does you credit, Scotty.Scotty wrote: I'm not a big fan of the llama bandwagon right now. I think a bunch of people on this lynch are bad.
- Wed Sep 16, 2015 11:09 pm
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Re: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (Day 10)
Great. Thanks for that.Sorsha wrote: I guess I'll be voting llama as well today. It's not a super strong case but
- Wed Sep 16, 2015 3:45 pm
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Re: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (Day 10)
Okay guys, it looks like I am suddenly public enemy number one around here, but I can sassure you, these aren't the droids you're looking for. Metalmarsh is the droids you're looking for. He's so weaselly. If he were any more weaselly, he'd be a weasel instead of a marmot.
- Wed Sep 16, 2015 1:53 pm
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Re: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (Day 10)
I hope Bass and DH replace each other.Scotty wrote:I hope Bass replaces DH. And DFaraday replaces Bass.
- Wed Sep 16, 2015 1:32 pm
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Re: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (Day 10)
I'm voting for Metalmarsh. You should join me.Turnip Head wrote:I'm putting my vote on thellama73 for now. Regardless of him being busy and traveling, he hasn't felt like the same Llama that I know and love. He characterized MM as careful and placating, and Llama compared that to his own baddie game, and I think that's exactly how Llama has been playing this game.
- Wed Sep 16, 2015 9:27 am
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Re: Recruitment Mafia IV: Dawn of the Clans (Day 10)
This is the kind of tough interrogation I like.aapje wrote:Nope, I was not involved in his death? Were you?Sorsha wrote:Did you kill him so you wouldn't have to keep trying to get him lynched?aapje wrote:Looks like maybe I was wrong about him