The Syndicate

Hedgeowl wrote:Oh Elohcin and Lizzy, RIP. Sorry to lose you both in one Night. Your inexplicable actions will be missed Lizzy dear! Off to cake vote before I forgot, Elohcin.

Thank you, Hedgeowl.

Epignosis wrote:

Mongoose wrote:

Snow Dog wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

Elohcin wrote:Epignosis, What do you think of Llama's "B is for baddie" theory now? I mean, now that he has turned out to be civ. I cannot find the quote right now, but I believe Bullz was included in his theory, but bea voted for bullz Day 3.

1 - Don't worry Snow Dog, I will be the loser in this event.

I feel like such a turd for Logan's death, and even worse that I know bird's real team is laughing their asses off at me (I even dreamed about the Logan lynch last night). Now that I know the truth, I owe it to llama to reread his posts with a civilian context.

I'll admit that I thought the B is for bad theory was bunk, and to be fair, Logan was firing shots in a lot of directions. There is some analysis I'd like to do though now that I'm home (it figures that I'd be called into work when a posting contest starts).

As far as Bs go, however, BoatBoatsBoats is high on my list for his super speed reading power coupled with the fact that he has been literally useless during all three Days.

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Oh yes..Boats...let's not forget him. Definitely suspicious. That superfast reading, understanding, posting power. A suspect high on the list I fancy. (I don't actually fancy him)

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Llama is an easy scapegoat, and I hate to see him killed off so early again. Whomever mentioned Boats' having BTSC was definitely right on the money. You can skim that many posts in 12 minutes, but his post showed he had retained and synthesized the information. As Epi (et al.) pointed out, that's just not feasible in 12 minutes. However, I don't think it's just BTSC; I think he may be a lurker. He might be in this forum, reading this very post RIGHT NOW.

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My top three suspects incidentally are Bs. Boo & Bullzeye because they voted for AceofSpaces on Day 2 and then thellama73 on Day 3. If either of them were teammates of bird's, they might try to save bird by voting for Ace, and would have no qualms about lynching thellama73.

And BoatsBoatsBoats was disingenuous and got caught. That's the kind of thing I just love.

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So, like I said. If we have all these "B" suspects, I say we try one of them before a suspect that has a different letter at the start of their name. I know it sounds silly, but llama has a great track record for intuition imo. What do you think about bea, Epi? Her claim to be civ just sounded so forced to me.

I am having a hard time keeping up with the thread today and I am not even working right now. Did everyone call in sick so they could win the event?

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DharmaHelper wrote:

Elohcin wrote:

Snow Dog wrote:

Elohcin wrote:Epignosis, What do you think of Llama's "B is for baddie" theory now? I mean, now that he has turned out to be civ. I cannot find the quote right now, but I believe Bullz was included in his theory, but bea voted for bullz Day 3.

1 - Don't worry Snow Dog, I will be the loser in this event.

Well I'll reply to you to help your posts.

For myself I don't hold any credence with the B for Baddie theory. Just another wild llama idea. Even though he was civ, doesn't make him right.

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I think it sounds like a pretty silly idea. But you never know. From what I've seen of llama in previous games, he seems to have good intuitions. Some people are just good at that kind of thing. Then I think, if the roles were given randomly, then what are the chances, right?

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To comment on the "B" votes thing, I'm in agreement with you Elo that it does seem a tad silly. However, one thing in my style of play that I am working on is my confidence. Often I flush out a good deal of baddies and do not have the confidence to see it through. (JLvA Mafia, Avant Mafia, just to name 2). I think as it relates to llama, (the gambit, Plan B) I can see how he might be in the right place, on the right track, and things work out so unbelievably well that nobody follows through....

To say that a little clearer, I hope that "it seems too good to be true" is not enough to turn everyone away from being confident in their pursuits.
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I understand what you are saying. If they are already high on the suspect list, why not go ahead and vote them out. If we vote out another "B" and they turn up bad, llama just might not be crazy after all.

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Snow Dog wrote:

Elohcin wrote:Epignosis, What do you think of Llama's "B is for baddie" theory now? I mean, now that he has turned out to be civ. I cannot find the quote right now, but I believe Bullz was included in his theory, but bea voted for bullz Day 3.

1 - Don't worry Snow Dog, I will be the loser in this event.

Well I'll reply to you to help your posts.

For myself I don't hold any credence with the B for Baddie theory. Just another wild llama idea. Even though he was civ, doesn't make him right.

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I think it sounds like a pretty silly idea. But you never know. From what I've seen of llama in previous games, he seems to have good intuitions. Some people are just good at that kind of thing. Then I think, if the roles were given randomly, then what are the chances, right?

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Epignosis, What do you think of Llama's "B is for baddie" theory now? I mean, now that he has turned out to be civ. I cannot find the quote right now, but I believe Bullz was included in his theory, but bea voted for bullz Day 3.

1 - Don't worry Snow Dog, I will be the loser in this event.

Mongoose wrote:

Elohcin wrote:

DharmaHelper wrote:You make some really neat looking cakes Elo.

Thanks DharmaHelper. You can check out my facebook page - facebook.com/LittleMissCakesNC

I entered a cake decorating contest because my stand mixer broke on me today and the winner of the contest gets a new Kitchen Aid mixer. You can vote for my Dr. Seuss cake by going to the facebook page My Cake Decorating, clicking on Cake Off, and searching for my name "Tasha Brown". Spread the word! I need new mixer

Done! Hope you win. Those Kitchen Aid mixers are awful snazzy.

Thanks so much!

Epignosis wrote:

Elohcin wrote:I need to get my butt in gear

Mario Andretti couldn't move that thing!

Mario Lopez could

DharmaHelper wrote:You make some really neat looking cakes Elo.

Thanks DharmaHelper. You can check out my facebook page - facebook.com/LittleMissCakesNC

I entered a cake decorating contest because my stand mixer broke on me today and the winner of the contest gets a new Kitchen Aid mixer. You can vote for my Dr. Seuss cake by going to the facebook page My Cake Decorating, clicking on Cake Off, and searching for my name "Tasha Brown". Spread the word! I need new mixer

I've been baking all day basically, but I guess I need to get my butt in gear and vote.

I think that Epi's theory about llama is the most compelling. So, I am voting llama. Sorry Logan.

Snow Dog wrote:
Well it is possible of course. But I don't have to believe her do I? I think she is very clever and a convincing liar. This plus her self vote.......see it's the self vote as well. Although I do agree that Llama is probably a better candidate. He could have just believed BWT to be civ though. We all make mistakes.

No, you don't have to believe her. In fact, I had forgotten about her self votes. That is strange.

Snow Dog wrote:

Vompatti wrote:I think Lizzy is probably innocent and I will defend her to my last breath.

You think she is probably innocent? Just probably? And yet you will defend her to your last breath.

This is all very odd to me.

This is quite strange as well. Vomp is under suspicion already and is making such a bold claim about Lizzy. If we lynch Vomp and he turns out bad, we ought to look at Lizzy.

So, again, I am up for a Vomp or llama vote next time around.

Yay! A baddie already! And, with leads left behind

juliets wrote:Hmm I wrote out a post but its gone. Anyway, way to fool me bwt. I thought the typo stuff was nonsense. This makes me look differently at epig and at vomps, one looks good the other not so much.

RIP BWT, BIH Dr.

I definitely agree with juliets here. Vomp is a great candidate for the next days lynch. I am ready to hear his defense.

@Epi - I believe your theory on llama is quite interesting and I think you are on to something.

That gives up two good leads...Vomp and llama. And if we go for llama and he turns out civ, I think we ought to look at bea. Her post which I quote below seems just a bit forced. However, if llama turns out baddie, then I guess she is being genuine.

bea wrote:well crap. I either chose wrong or we were lucky and there were two baddies in that mix. I do have to say, David had me fooled.

well done epi for not letting up on his gut feeling. As rusti asked, I wouldn't mind knowing if there was anything besides gut that kept you going on.

llama - I've got no problems with you looking my way. I'm a civ this time round. If there's anything specific I can address, I'd be happy to.

Snow Dog wrote:Result!

I still think Lizzy is bad though.

What is your reasoning behind this post? I happen to think she may be civ because of her post early on in the game where she says...

Lizzy wrote: I suppose you could call it new, won 2 out of 3, but last time I pretended and lied so much it now seems boring as hell, strategy wise at least. And I'm actually disappointed that people are not opened to new approaches. I personally find the game more entertaining this way. Alas, you can finish me anytime if it's against the establishment.

I think Lizzy is admitting here that she is disappointed that she got a civ role this game because she was so pleased with how Thomas Mafia turned out and how she had so much fun being able to lie and deceive.

Well, I must get ready and leave soon, so I guess I have to go ahead and vote. I will go with BWT. He is the only one that's even sort-of pingy.

*votes BWT*

Despite all the talking going on, I feel there is not much to go on today. I will have to vote early, however because I have a wedding cake to deliver this afternoon. I'll check in before I leave.

So sorry, AP . For day 1, the odds are we will get one of our own whether we vote random or think we have something to go on. Still, I was really hoping for a baddie lynch right off the bat. Would have been cool.

Epignosis wrote:
But your sweeping criticism of early random voters followed by your defense of an early random voter in the very same post is contradictory, and rather amusing since there was only one early random voter (Vompatti).

For this reason I am voting birdwithteeth11.

Interesting, Epi. I will keep this in mind in the next day.

And, I am voting A Person for the reason I previously stated.

Rondomizing. At first I had no problem with it for Day 1. It is early and there is not much to go one. But what Llama said makes sense.

thellama73 wrote:
If you are a civ, this is certainly not true. Out of thirty-six players, only eight are baddies (ten if you count the indies.) So the odds are you will vote for someone on your own team if you vote randomly. Unless you are bad, or an indie, in which case, we should probably lynch you.

If you're a civ, you should at least try to find something to go on and make an educated guess. And, if you must randomize your vote, at least wait until the end of the "day" so you are sure there is nothing to go on.

Also, A Person said, "At this point voting randomly seems likely to result in voting for someone not on my team, and since I can't pretend I have anything to go on I might as well try that." If he/she is more likely to vote someone NOT on his/her team with a random vote, then he/she must be bad.

And, I must agree with Mongoose about the accusations against llama. I don't see what LT sees. She seems to be reaching which is pingy to me. LT quoted llama's comments that she thought were pingy but never really explained why they ping her.

To sum up, so far I see civvie behavior in Llama and baddie behavior in LT and and A Person. Looks like there is enough info to make an educated guess

Alright, baddies! Here we go! Come out, come out whoever you are!

Epignosis wrote:

Elohcin wrote:

Russtifinko wrote:
Also, sorry I didn't check in sooner! I'm moving back to the US on Tuesday, so things have been a bit hectic. My participation will be very limited until Wednesday, but after that I'll be all in.

Moving sucks. I've moved four times in the past ten years. Where are you moving from and where are you moving to?

All Eloh talks about is rabbits. I told her that if we can work up a stake, we'll get us a nice place with lots of rabbits and she can feed them alfalfa from the garden.

over my head

Russtifinko wrote:
Also, sorry I didn't check in sooner! I'm moving back to the US on Tuesday, so things have been a bit hectic. My participation will be very limited until Wednesday, but after that I'll be all in.

Moving sucks. I've moved four times in the past ten years. Where are you moving from and where are you moving to?

Yay Game

I'll take a plasmid