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by Prisoner 509378
Tue May 19, 2015 10:34 pm
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Re: Biblical Mafia [CHAPTER VI]

Belshazzar wrote:
Balaam wrote:
Belshazzar wrote:
Balaam wrote:Surprised Jonah has been MIA today. We could have used his input.

Belsh, want to test the Laz theory?
In what way?
Do you want to leave Absalom at risk or push Ruth to a technical tie?
I'd go with the second, especially if what Lot about it proving Absalom isn't a Heathen makes sense, then I wouldn't want Absalom lynched.
Alright, then I'll vote Ruth.
by Prisoner 509378
Tue May 19, 2015 10:26 pm
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Re: Biblical Mafia [CHAPTER VI]

Belshazzar wrote:
Balaam wrote:Surprised Jonah has been MIA today. We could have used his input.

Belsh, want to test the Laz theory?
In what way?
Do you want to leave Absalom at risk or push Ruth to a technical tie?
by Prisoner 509378
Tue May 19, 2015 10:25 pm
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Re: Biblical Mafia [CHAPTER VI]

Lot wrote:And Hagar...

Fair point though, the baddies probably already had it in mind and didn't NK him because Absalom isn't heathen.

I still prefer not to say it openly, but oh well. It's done.

I still think Absalom could be horseman, but we don't skip a night by lynching a horseman.
But it shouldn't count as a civvie lynch on our countdown to another smiting, should it?
by Prisoner 509378
Tue May 19, 2015 10:24 pm
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Re: Biblical Mafia [CHAPTER VI]

Surprised Jonah has been MIA today. We could have used his input.

Belsh, want to test the Laz theory?
by Prisoner 509378
Tue May 19, 2015 10:20 pm
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Re: Biblical Mafia [CHAPTER VI]

Belshazzar wrote:
Balaam wrote:
Lot wrote:All I can say is that if noone else got any more votes from now I can only assume Absalom would be lynched.
If Laz is Simon, then I think his vote would be worth 5 today, potentially making it 6 votes for Abs atm.
Was there really any need to state that so openly?
The foreplay is getting old. The only people who probably wouldn't have that figured out by now are Bathsheba, Judah, and Deborah.
by Prisoner 509378
Tue May 19, 2015 10:16 pm
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Re: Biblical Mafia [CHAPTER VI]

Belshazzar wrote:See my post, Balaam. Torn between Jacob and Ruth. Jacob looks worse, but not completely irredeemable and he falls strictly under "Uzziah defender" type. Ruth may have influenced Day 3, when Uzziah could actually have been lynched and we would be looking at a different picture right now, but her actions back then make no sense (except for a stringent saving instinct) and there's not much else, other than that, to fully convict her.

linki: A slip up of what? Pilate and Lazarus being twins?
I'm torn between Jacob, Ruth, and Deborah.
by Prisoner 509378
Tue May 19, 2015 10:12 pm
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Re: Biblical Mafia [CHAPTER VI]

Lot wrote:All I can say is that if noone else got any more votes from now I can only assume Absalom would be lynched.
If Laz is Simon, then I think his vote would be worth 5 today, potentially making it 6 votes for Abs atm.
by Prisoner 509378
Tue May 19, 2015 10:10 pm
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Re: Biblical Mafia [CHAPTER VI]

Belshazzar wrote:
Lot wrote:All I can say is that if noone else got any more votes from now I can only assume Absalom would be lynched.
Oh shit.
Indeed.

Whatcha thinking Belsh?
by Prisoner 509378
Tue May 19, 2015 10:01 pm
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Re: Biblical Mafia [CHAPTER VI]

Deborah wrote:What happened to night time? I expected day to have started today. :confused2: Nice job on Uzziah, I guess sometimes when someone says they are routing for the baddies, they mean it, lol? I will never understand why some players decode to bring such a spotlight onto themselves. .. so I will try to catch up once the kids are asleep, I wasn't expecting such a deadline.
Deborah wrote:Why is day ending so early?
Why didn't you bother to check the Stoning Post for a result? Perhaps you already knew what was going to happen? Either way, weak.

Joshua is still alive. As long as he is alive, Night Phase is skipped when we stone a Heathen.

Deborah wrote:Why did Pilate and Lazarus just make identical posts? ??? WTF?
WTF indeed.
by Prisoner 509378
Tue May 19, 2015 5:54 pm
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Re: Biblical Mafia [CHAPTER VI]

my notes on *her
by Prisoner 509378
Tue May 19, 2015 5:54 pm
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Re: Biblical Mafia [CHAPTER VI]

Hmm. All the cool kids seems to be voting for Ruth, so I may follow suit. Then again, I may vote for Deborah because my notes on here are pretty negative. I'll compare notes and posts on both and vote after dinner.
by Prisoner 509378
Tue May 19, 2015 4:36 pm
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Re: Biblical Mafia [CHAPTER VI]

Hey Isaac, since you were interested in talking earlier, riddle me this:

You say now that you wish you could pull back your vote on Rachel. If you were still able to vote, who are your top 2 or 3 suspects as of right now?


linki: Jeph- Yeah, I think we are too. I'm just THAT big of a data person that 16th v. 12th bugs me. it drives what few friends I have left bonkers. :blush:
by Prisoner 509378
Tue May 19, 2015 3:33 pm
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Re: Biblical Mafia [CHAPTER VI]

Lot wrote:I'm torn on a vote for Ruth.

On one hand, has she been here? She might be silenced. I have less problem with that at this end of the game when there is evidence against her than I do near the start as with Cain. Especially since it's easy to fake. And there was no night. So what would cause anyone to be silenced today? But it still makes me slightly wary.

Then there was that vote for Uzz. Not too late to save him. But it's possible the team had recognised he was going and thought it was a good way to hide.

I don't know - I still prefer a vote on Jacob or Isaac whose votes I think are the worst, but I feel fairly happy if it goes Ruth's way as well, all things considered.
I don't see how anyone could be silenced today. Especially not Ruth. She was able to speak Day 5, so she should be able to speak today. If the condition is "silenced until the next night phase" maybe. But I all but refuse to acknowledge the possibility. It's pretty much the same people as always either not talking or coming in late. I understand it's a lot of folks' work hours atm but what's their excuse for not at least checking in last night?

Linki: Belsh, it won't take long to analyze Day 6- about 1/3 of it was my recap posts. :rolleyes:

Here's who has posted Day 6:
Absalom
Balaam
Belshazzar
Isaac
Jacob
Jephthah
Lot
Mordecai
Pilate
Rachel
Stephen


Here's who hasn't:
Bathsheba*
Deborah
Esther
Jonah
Jonathan
Judah*
Lazarus
Malchus*
Rahab
Rebecca
Ruth
Samuel

*= didn't post at all Day 5

Oh damn! There I go with my lists again...
by Prisoner 509378
Tue May 19, 2015 12:49 pm
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Re: Biblical Mafia [CHAPTER VI]

So far only 11 out of the 23 players left in this game have posted anything since Uzziah's stoning. That's over half the players keeping quiet for just over 38 hours.
:wtf:
by Prisoner 509378
Tue May 19, 2015 11:50 am
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Re: Biblical Mafia [CHAPTER VI]

Jephthah wrote:
Absalom wrote:Guys, I wish I could tell you about how crazy the last few days have been, but I can't. State secrets. Anyway, it is nice to have a clue in Uzziah's death. I've gone over the voting record, and I submit for your consideration: Ruth.

Day 1: She votes for Cain after it's clear Samson will get lynched.
Day 2: No vote.
Day 3: She votes for Mary Magdalene, bring it to 6 vs. Uzziah's 4.
Day 4: She is the only vote for Uzziah. Distancing.
Day 5: She votes for Uzziah after he has 5 votes. The next highest vote getter at the time has 3. The writing is on the wall. Time to save herself and face the inevitable.

Note the lack of consistency in the first four days. She pinballs around from suspect to suspect because she is more concerned with keeping her hands clean than pursuing bad guys.

I'm voting for Ruth right now.
I had thought about Ruth and agree that her votes look really bad. My only doubt is her vote on the last day. The fact that she voted 16th, and there were 7 votes after her meant that I could have still gotten more votes. What I'm saying is, wouldn't she wait a little longer to see where this was going? Even one more vote for Uzziah would have done it. That said, I could see the baddies talking BTSC after Job's lynch and saying Uzziah is likely going down after that, and that if it comes to that, they should save their own skin.
I agree with Jeph that Ruth's D5 vote seems to work against her being teammates with Uzz. Uzz was two votes ahead and she made it three. Sometimes baddies will split the difference, with some voting for their teammate while others vote for someone else, either to save their teammate or to keep themselves spread out. For this reason, I'm not giving Ruth a free pass but I still have to think on it.

Also, Jeph, Ruth was the 12th active player to vote D5. I think you're looking at the poll page Epi makes, which include non-active voters for the host option. Check out my technicolor vote analyses again for the real vote order (in terms of who is playing the game):
Balaam wrote:DAY 1 RESULTS:

1. SAMUEL (Paul)
2. SAMUEL (Samson)

3. LOT (Gideon)
4. UZZIAH (Pilate)
5. REBECCA (Rachel)
6. PAUL (Martha)
7. BARNABAS (Stephen)
8. UZZIAH (Job)
9. SAMSON (Mordecai)
10. SAMSON (Mary Mag)

11. ABSALOM (Cain)
12. CAIN (Deborah)
13. CAIN (Absalom)

14. SAMSON (Isaac)
15. SAMSON (Jacob)

16. JEPHTHA (Rebecca)
17. ABSALOM (Malchus)
18. SAMSON (Jonathan)
19. MARY MAG (Jonah)
20. SAMSON (Belshazzar)
21. SAMSON (Samuel)

22. CAIN (Uzziah)
23. JEPHTHAH (Lot)
24. PAUL (Nicodemus)
25. CAIN (Ruth)
26. GIDEON (Hagar)
27. MARY MAG (Jephthah)
28. UZZIAH (Rahab)
29. CAIN (Balaam)

Not Voting: Barnabas, Bathsheba, Esther, Judas, Lazarus
Balaam wrote:Day 2 Results:

1. JOB (Uzziah)
2. UZZIAH (Job)
3. JOB (Rachel)
4. CAIN (Paul)
5. CAIN (Absalom)
6. CAIN (Belshazzar)
7. CAIN (Deborah)
8. CAIN (Malchus)

9. UZZIAH (Lot)
10. CAIN (Rahab)
11. STEPHEN (Stephen)
12. CAIN (Balaam)
13. JEPHTHAH (Rebecca)
14. ABSALOM (Lazarus)
15. UZZIAH (Jonathan)
16. CAIN (Bathsheba)

Not Voting: Barnabas (2), Cain, Esther (2), Gideon, Hagar, Isaac, Jacob, Jephthah, Jonah, Judah (2), Mary Mag, Mordecai, Nicodemus, Pilate, Ruth, Samuel
Balaam wrote:DAY 3 Results:

1. UZZIAH (Job)
2. JOB (Uzziah)
3. RACHEL (Lot)
4. RACHEL (Mary Mag)

5. UZZIAH (Nicodemus)
6. LAZARUS (Mordecai)
7. JOB (Isaac)
8. RAHAB (Jonah)
9. UZZIAH (Absalom)
10. MARY MAG (Rebecca)
11. LAZARUS (Jonathan)
12. LAZARUS (Gideon)

13. MARY MAG (Jacob)
14. MARY MAG (Belshazzar)
15. MARY MAG (Jephthah)
16. MARY MAG (Deborah)

17. JOB (Rachel)
18. JOB (Esther)

19. ABSALOM (Lazarus)
20. UZZIAH (Rahab)
21. MARY MAG (Ruth)
22. MARY MAG (Balaam)


Day 3 Not Voting: Barnabas (3), Bathsheba (2), Hagar (2), Judah (3), Malchus, Pilate (2), Samuel (2), Stephen
Balaam wrote:DAY 4 Results:

1. RACHEL (Pilate)
2. JOB (Uzziah)
3. BALAAM (Absalom)
4. BALAAM (Nicodemus)

5. ABSALOM (Lazarus)
6. JOB (Rachel)
7. BALAAM (Rebecca)
8. JOB (Stephen)
9. JOB (Jonah)
10. JOB (Samuel)

11. LAZARUS (Mordecai)
12. JOB (Balaam)
13. UZZIAH (Ruth)
14. LAZARUS (Rahab)
15. RACHEL (Job)
16. BALAAM (Jephthah)
17. JOB (Esther)
18. JOB (Jonathan)

19. BALAAM (Judah)
20. DEBORAH (Deborah)
21. JOB (Belshazzar)

Not Voting: Barnabas (4), Bathsheba (3), Isaac (2), Jacob (2), Lot, Malchus (2)
Balaam wrote:DAY 5 Results:

1. UZZIAH (Pilate)
2. JEPHTHAH (Rebecca)
3. UZZIAH (Stephen)
4. UZZIAH (Absalom)

5. SAMUEL (Jephthah)
6. UZZIAH (Jonathan)
7. STEPHEN (Uzziah)
8. JEPHTHAH (Lot)
9. UZZIAH (Esther)
10. JEPHTHAH (Samuel)
11. SAMUEL (Belshazzar)
12. UZZIAH (Ruth)
13. ABSALOM (Lazarus)
14. UZZIAH (Rahab)
15. JEPHTHAH (Isaac)
16. UZZIAH (Rachel)
17. UZZIAH (Mordecai)

18. MALCHUS (Deborah)
19. JEPHTHAH (Jonah)


Not Voting: Balaam, Bathsheba (4), Jacob (3), Judah (4), Malchus (3)
I'm curious to see if Bathsheba and/or Judah suffer the same fate as Barnabas. Missing four votes is just... wow.


Re:Rachel- Looks like Isaac beat me to it with his mea culpa post. I'll still try to read over him at lunch.
by Prisoner 509378
Tue May 19, 2015 8:58 am
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Re: Biblical Mafia [CHAPTER VI]

Pilate wrote:What happened to the night? We lynched Uzziah, and went straight into another lynch?
Because Epignosis is a merciful host. While he watched in disgust and sadness as civvies stoned each other to death four consecutive days, he did not abandon us. Lo, our host has heard our cries for mercy and a lucky break and has intervened on our behalf. Truly, I say unto you, it is a miracle of intercession. Rejoice civvies and repent Heathens! If Epignosis is for us, who can stand against us?

...or Joshua is still alive. Go check the roles. :-p
by Prisoner 509378
Tue May 19, 2015 8:17 am
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Re: Biblical Mafia [CHAPTER VI]

Rachel wrote:Balaam, what do you make of Isaac coming after me so hard? I'm a bit taken aback.
I'll try to re-read his posts over lunch. Very busy day today.

Looks like I'll also have to take another peek at Ruth. I was thinking Deborah looked worse but it is a new day. Glad I have my notes. I guess I'm the only one glad to have them in the thread too. :P
by Prisoner 509378
Mon May 18, 2015 8:11 pm
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Re: Biblical Mafia [CHAPTER VI]

Lot wrote:What do I get from this?

Jacob and Isaac look really very very very bad, to me. Both of their day one and day three votes both feel like they came at critical junctures. Day two and four, days when Uzz was less under pressure, neither of them voted at all. I'd gladly see us take out these two the next two days, and feel like we could comfortably say there is a high chance that each of them is heathen.

Ruth's votes came at slightly less critical junctures but day three especially was still critical enough (day one would need to be more along the lines of lynch switch protection) and then her vote for Uzz on day four could be an intentional distancing tactic, coming as it did so late.

Deborah's votes are slightly less suspicious than Ruth's, but she could definitely still be bad, especially days three and five look a bit that way.

Absalom, to me, his voting record speaks to the fact he is definitely not heathen. Mordecai and Jonathan's voting patterns also seem fairly unlikely for heathen.

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By no means is Jephthah's record terrible, but it isn't clean. Day three could conceivably be a save on Uzz, Day one was an irrelevant vote and directly contradicts Jeph's 'I only want to vote a way that is meaningful' stance on day four. I think my view on Jeph might come back to a reread.

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TL; DR...

Jacob and Isaac are probably heathen. Ruth and Deborah could be, worth a reread.
JACOB:
He honestly looks the worst out of this group you bring up, Lot. He mirrored Jonathan's ultimatum on Samson speaking or else getting a vote and his vote gave Samson a 2-vote lead. His lack of a vote Day 2 stinks because it would help fill things in a bit more. His statement D3 about Uzz being too easy certainly stands out the day after we stoned him and he flipped Heathen. Oddly though, he shows some civ nature in not wanting to vote Job b/c he wasn't around. His N4 post about "oops, I missed the vote but would have voted for the #2 guy" is convenient after lynching a civ but he was agreeing with Abs & Nic's case on me prior to the deadline. The his story changes quite a bit D5 where he starts out only thinking Rachel stands out, but goes on to be wary of Jeph and later even Uzz (not sure what Uzz's vote count was like at this point). Then he misses another vote (his 3rd miss). He is a little all over the place but he's only got two votes to his name which makes it hard to say for sure that he looks bad.

ISAAC:
Isaac's posts sound worse than his votes look, I think. He was only the third one in on Samson, missed D2's vote, wasn't even involved with Mary's train, and missed D4's vote. The worst he looks is D5 when Uzz is on the line. He jumps on Uzz's comment about Pilate being bad and says latish about not feeling good about Uzz's pending lynch. I don't see much in the votes unless he strategically skipped votes but that's impossible to prove. You may need to convince me more about this one.

RUTH:
Is your suspicion based on her late vote for Cain (perhaps helping to solidify him as leftovers for D2) and her late Mary vote D3 to help solidify her fate? Other than that, her D4 and D5 votes seem okay to me. I'm pretty neutral on her because she's been inquisitive but not too chatty. She's also been able to defend some of her choices fairly well.

DEBORAH:
She gives Cain his first vote D1, gives him a 2-vote lead D2, gives Mary a 2-vote lead D3, self-votes D4, and votes "off-topic" to nudge another player D5. To me, her votes are stinky stinky stinky. I may be biased by all the "sorry, catching up" posts she made Days 1-4. She came into her own D5 with some posts but found most everyone civ or neutral. She pegged Bathsheba, Lazarus, and Malchus as shifty or outright bad. Those aren't bad names but they're also fairly safe names to lists as sus. I'm keeping my eye on her still,

ABSALOM:
I agree with you on Absalom. He's looking mighty solid with his vote history. He sticks to his guns and has done some good theorizing. Even though he had it in for me, I agree that he's Horseman at worst. I thought I was reading some chummy behavior between him and Nicodemus since Day 1, which had me wondering if they were teammates but Nic's death and Abs's swift action on Uzz seem to rule out Heathen altogether.

JEPHTHAH:
Man, I just don't know. Half the time I find myself thinking he's right on and I like him. The other half of the time I just wonder a little. I don't feel as bad about him as you do, Lot. I'll have to go through some of his posts again. I do agree with him that there could be something going on with Mordecai. His vote came after Uzz received his 2nd and I think it marks the Pivot in Day 1. I'll have to go back and see how long people had been castigating Cain before he voted.

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Not sure where the suspicion of Rachel comes from aside from Job's mysterious vote for her. I've wavered on her from time to time but I can't help but come back around to her being more good than bad. On a totally random note, does anyone else feel that Rachel's avatar has a unique sexiness to it? No idea why that stands out to me but it's there.

Belshazzar wrote:Balaam, I think your general scan of the players' reads and votes should normally be correlated with their reads and votes on Uzziah specifically. This is something I might pursue. Just from a quick glance, the Day 3 vote presents the greatest possible shift from the opportunity to lynch Uzziah to Mary ending up lynched - how can it not be after all, Uzziah was basically leading wagon for a while, ending up second wagon, albeit at a few votes' distance.
You're half right. We should analyze posts and votes with Uzziah's Heathen nature in mind but it's not just the shift away from Uzz but the Push on other players, like Cain D1, Job and Laz D3, and me on D4. So far the Heathens have been able to choose between two different civvies each day to keep Uzziah alive- one civ that gets lynched and another to set up for the next day.

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Looks like we need to get a ruler for Lot, Jeph, and Isaac. :P
by Prisoner 509378
Mon May 18, 2015 1:48 pm
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Re: Biblical Mafia [CHAPTER VI]

Sorry if you feel slighted Jeph. I admit that I wrote some opinionated comments in there. I'm sure others would have some nasty words to say about me on their lists. I've seen the word "useless" thrown around often enough in the thread in regards to me already to know there are some stronger words for me than that out there.

No one said you had to read my recaps but it's your loss if you don't. I'm exhausted now and need to get some work done. Catch you on the flip-flop! :P
by Prisoner 509378
Mon May 18, 2015 1:42 pm
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DAY 5 Results:

1. UZZIAH (Pilate)
2. JEPHTHAH (Rebecca)
3. UZZIAH (Stephen)
4. UZZIAH (Absalom)

5. SAMUEL (Jephthah)
6. UZZIAH (Jonathan)
7. STEPHEN (Uzziah)
8. JEPHTHAH (Lot)
9. UZZIAH (Esther)
10. JEPHTHAH (Samuel)
11. SAMUEL (Belshazzar)
12. UZZIAH (Ruth)
13. ABSALOM (Lazarus)
14. UZZIAH (Rahab)
15. JEPHTHAH (Isaac)
16. UZZIAH (Rachel)
17. UZZIAH (Mordecai)

18. MALCHUS (Deborah)
19. JEPHTHAH (Jonah)


Not Voting: Balaam, Bathsheba (4), Jacob (3), Judah (4), Malchus (3)
by Prisoner 509378
Mon May 18, 2015 1:34 pm
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DAY 4 Results:

1. RACHEL (Pilate)
2. JOB (Uzziah)
3. BALAAM (Absalom)
4. BALAAM (Nicodemus)

5. ABSALOM (Lazarus)
6. JOB (Rachel)
7. BALAAM (Rebecca)
8. JOB (Stephen)
9. JOB (Jonah)
10. JOB (Samuel)

11. LAZARUS (Mordecai)
12. JOB (Balaam)
13. UZZIAH (Ruth)
14. LAZARUS (Rahab)
15. RACHEL (Job)
16. BALAAM (Jephthah)
17. JOB (Esther)
18. JOB (Jonathan)

19. BALAAM (Judah)
20. DEBORAH (Deborah)
21. JOB (Belshazzar)

Not Voting: Barnabas (4), Bathsheba (3), Isaac (2), Jacob (2), Lot, Malchus (2)
by Prisoner 509378
Mon May 18, 2015 1:21 pm
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Day 3 Not Voting: Barnabas (3), Bathsheba (2), Hagar (2), Judah (3), Malchus, Pilate (2), Samuel (2), Stephen
by Prisoner 509378
Mon May 18, 2015 1:20 pm
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DAY 3 Results:

1. UZZIAH (Job)
2. JOB (Uzziah)
3. RACHEL (Lot)
4. RACHEL (Mary Mag)

5. UZZIAH (Nicodemus)
6. LAZARUS (Mordecai)
7. JOB (Isaac)
8. RAHAB (Jonah)
9. UZZIAH (Absalom)
10. MARY MAG (Rebecca)
11. LAZARUS (Jonathan)
12. LAZARUS (Gideon)

13. MARY MAG (Jacob)
14. MARY MAG (Belshazzar)
15. MARY MAG (Jephthah)
16. MARY MAG (Deborah)

17. JOB (Rachel)
18. JOB (Esther)

19. ABSALOM (Lazarus)
20. UZZIAH (Rahab)
21. MARY MAG (Ruth)
22. MARY MAG (Balaam)


Not Voting:
by Prisoner 509378
Mon May 18, 2015 1:11 pm
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Re: Biblical Mafia [CHAPTER VI]

Day 2 Results:

1. JOB (Uzziah)
2. UZZIAH (Job)
3. JOB (Rachel)
4. CAIN (Paul)
5. CAIN (Absalom)
6. CAIN (Belshazzar)
7. CAIN (Deborah)
8. CAIN (Malchus)

9. UZZIAH (Lot)
10. CAIN (Rahab)
11. STEPHEN (Stephen)
12. CAIN (Balaam)
13. JEPHTHAH (Rebecca)
14. ABSALOM (Lazarus)
15. UZZIAH (Jonathan)
16. CAIN (Bathsheba)

Not Voting: Barnabas (2), Cain, Esther (2), Gideon, Hagar, Isaac, Jacob, Jephthah, Jonah, Judah (2), Mary Mag, Mordecai, Nicodemus, Pilate, Ruth, Samuel
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And now for something I like to call Balaam's Amazing Technicolor Vote Analysis!

Here's how it works, it's a list (gee, no kidding!) in chronological order of how the votes came in. Sometimes looking at the poll results is tricky because it's just a graph and it takes a lot of effort to find the vote order and keep the sequence fluid in your head. Each player getting votes has their own color. The stoning victim is in read and we go down through the colors based on the number of votes (2nd place = orange, 3rd = yellow, etc.). My notes should hopefully help find Plants and Pushes but these may help us find the Pivots. The player receiving the vote is in all caps. The player placing the vote is in parentheses.

Without further ado...

DAY 1 RESULTS:

1. SAMUEL (Paul)
2. SAMUEL (Samson)

3. LOT (Gideon)
4. UZZIAH (Pilate)
5. REBECCA (Rachel)
6. PAUL (Martha)
7. BARNABAS (Stephen)
8. UZZIAH (Job)
9. SAMSON (Mordecai)
10. SAMSON (Mary Mag)

11. ABSALOM (Cain)
12. CAIN (Deborah)
13. CAIN (Absalom)

14. SAMSON (Isaac)
15. SAMSON (Jacob)

16. JEPHTHA (Rebecca)
17. ABSALOM (Malchus)
18. SAMSON (Jonathan)
19. MARY MAG (Jonah)
20. SAMSON (Belshazzar)
21. SAMSON (Samuel)

22. CAIN (Uzziah)
23. JEPHTHAH (Lot)
24. PAUL (Nicodemus)
25. CAIN (Ruth)
26. GIDEON (Hagar)
27. MARY MAG (Jephthah)
28. UZZIAH (Rahab)
29. CAIN (Balaam)

Not Voting: Barnabas, Bathsheba, Esther, Judas, Lazarus
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And for kicks and giggles,

UZZIAH

DAY 1
-confident that Job is baddie
-votes Cain anyway- also thinks he might be bad

DAY 2:
-doesn't like Job or Paul or Cain
-wants to see them lynched/dead before doing anything helpful

N2:
-questions whther the result indicated Absalom is bad


DAY 3:
-applauds Paul's death???

DAY 4
-posts sarcastic "excuse" response
-uncertain about Abs & Pilate
-if Job bad, he'll look at those not talked about yet


DAY 5
-suggests Abs and Pilate being framed by the baddies
-questions Pilate's post- "does this mean you're bad?"
-curious that Abs & Pilate vote for him after he defends them
-says Stephen acting sketchy- votes him
-claims being framed to make Abs look civ
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STEPHEN

voted random D1

DAY 2:
-self-votes because he sucks at following game

DAY 4
-finds it odd that Paul killed after going after Job
-sses Uzz as unhelpful in solving game
-Uzz & Rachel look worse if Job turns civ
-noticed early sus of Ruth in thread but where did it go?
-wants to know why Ruth not sus of Job
-sus of Job for tunnel vision
-calls out Rebecca's vote w/o explanation
-likes Paul's / Rachel's case against Job
-sus of Jeph and Ruth
-calls attention to Jeph's wishy washy nature
-supports Rachel

NIGHT 4
-agrees with Lot
-late into N4 waffling on Lot
-thinks Abs & Nic are good

DAY 5
-thinks Abs & I are good
-calls out Laz, Malchus, Pilate, Uzz, Sam, Rebecca, Esther, Deb, & Bath for quietness
-says may vote Jeph
-thinks Jeph sus for being contradictory and wishy washy (especially on voting for me)
-thinks Ruth is flying perfectly at radar level- not too much, not too little, just right
-changs his mind on Jeph- thinks he's being genuine
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SAMUEL

sus of Ruth
backpedals on it

N2:
-makes a shame on me I missed vote post

DAY 3:
-calls the Paul kill interesting

DAY 4
-asks if anything happened last minute in poll results
-states will not do a re-read and will just work with the here and now
-doesn't trust Abs so he votes for Job because it counters Abs
-loves my lists


NIGHT 4
-says shame on Jeph for his vote on me
-sus of Abs & Jeph
-says he agree with Lot
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RUTH

sus of Paul- thinks he's faking being new
-jumps on Cain train because she doesn't think Samson is bad

N2:
-claims silenced D2
-high horse about lynching someone not posting
-clarification needed on "not able to vote"
-lurking but not posting fairly standard silenced activity??????


DAY 3:
-will vote Uzz if can't get caught up
-doesn't see case against Mary
-will prob vote Uzz- hung up over D1 antics

DAY 4
-apologizes for not being around
-responds to a mention or two with nothing really useful
-finally answers my question- she assumed she could not vote when she was silenced
-still thinks Uzz is bad
-defends her vote to Jeph- says she's voting who she thinks is guilty regardless of top 2 in vote
-sus of me for questioning her "no lynch if tie" comment- thinks I jumped on her (isn't she jumping on me now?
-wary of Pilate and Deb
-thinks Jeph just sounds frustrated (defend?)
-thinks Rachel believes in Job case- not sus of her


DAY 5
-wonders if FAMINE killed Barnabas instead of modkill
-curious about how Job votes took off after it was 6 for Job and 4 for me (could late Job votes be the pump for me?)
-doesn't think Jeph bad
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REBECCA

-not interested in lynching new peeps
sus of Jephthah
-votes Jeph for wishy washy and exagerating

DAY 2
-considering a self-vote
-still wary of Jeph


DAY 3:
-sympathizes with Deb on perpetual catchup
-sus of Rachel, Mary Mag, & Jeph
-votes for Mary Mag- uses Be;;sh's post for reason

DAY 4
-votes without posting

DAY 5
-sticks with her guns on Jeph being bad
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RAHAB

Not from TS?
-"baddies prolly hiding and laughing", wanted to hear more from Samson- nudge toward him?

DAY 2:
-makes a big deal about Samson's illegal vote
-weird that people consecutively wondered about Paul
-runs with Absalom's case on Cain

DAY3:
-asks if my lists are going to go anywhere- will I analyze or just dump data?
-admits to fence-sitting on Uzz
-thinks Bath has been blendy
-responds to Jonah soon after he votes her- asks what he wants to talk about
-says she's voting for Uzz based on previous comments (hers or someone else's?)


DAY 4
-thinks R&P's case on Job is sound
-agrees with Job's case on Uzz still though
-doesn't like Abs's case against me; Job's attitude; Laz coming out of nowhere
-says could vote Laz or Uzz
-votes Laz- not sus of Job or me

DAY 5
-questions Lots threat against those who find Laz sus
-wary on Malchus
-Pilate's post reminiscent of Uzz
-sees possible innocence in Jeph's posts and vote for me
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RACHEL

TS member
-initially not concerned with Horsemen
sus of Rebecca
sus of Paul
sus of Job
sus of Absolom
-not concerned with Gideons post
-said she would vote Rebecca, Job, or Absalom

DAY 2:
-warming up to BALAAM
-still sus of Job & Paul
-thinks I'm trying too hard w/ the lists

N2:
-still thinks Job is bad
-not crazy about Absalom & Mordecais N2 posts

DAY 3:
-picks right on up with Paul's sus of Job- quikcly becomes her case against him
-thinks i might be okay if a certain player
-sus of Job- not contributing or being helpful
-sus of Absalom- full of excuses
-wants to lynch Job or Abs
-not crazy about "kill Uzz so he's gone" plan


NIGHT 3
-starts pressing Job about his other prior suspects
-I posted his sus list, Rachel presses more
-also not thrilled by pessimism and odds
-agrees with Abs' argument against my pessimism despite sus of him

DAY 4
-starts appealing to me on her case against Job
-reminds folks that her case against Job is Paul's case
-reads bad on Job but neutral on Uzz
-called a hypocrite by Job for her tunnel vision on him; asks her why she changed to neutral on Uzz
-posts list of non-Job discussion to show she doesn't have tunnel vision
-draws ire and suspicion from Job- he says she might be an Uzz teammate if he is bad
-can only see first of Nic's 3 points on me
-also sus of Abs
-finds Jeph's repitition of "you're blinded by Job" sus
-accused by Lot of being teammates with Uzz

NIGHT 4
-still neutral on Uzz
-Agrees with Lot that Jeph may be bad
-questions Lot on some of his quick shifts in sus/attacks
-questions Abs' assertion that Uzz helped lead Job's lynch


DAY 5
-hinting she can only make one post?
-votes Uzz
-thinks Pilate has been sketchy all game

DAY 6
-asks what people think of Samuel
-wonders if Abs looks okay on D1
-concurs on Lot's analysis
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PILATE

sus of Uzziah

DAY 2:
-comes out defending Absalom- says Martha was full of it
-still sus of Uzziah

DAY 3:
-first to comment on Absalom's negativity
-thinks Belshazz is onto something re: Rachel's hypocrisy

DAY 4
-votes Rachel right away

NIGHT 4
-says let's lynch Rachel tomorrow

DAY 5
-comes out hard against Uzz- saying Uzz is framing him
-thinks Uzz & Abs are teammates
-says he voted Uzz but did not vote Uzz right away
-defends sus on him- says Uzz is setting him up to look bad if Uzz bad and for Uzz to look good when Pilate turns civ if stoned
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MORDECAI

sus of Samson
-not crazy about Paul at start, disapproves of methods
-makes an oh, darn gotta rush vote without thinking too much- goes for what is freshest

DAY 2:
-going to investigate Absalom's posts
-sus of Paul
-comes back still sus of Paul but not Absalom
-Looking into Jacob, Mary & Samuel for their Samson votes

DAY 3:
-says he will look into Bathsheba
-also says he didn't find anything fishy with Bathsheba
-thinks Absalom's "Paul's kill sucks" is overcompensation
-wonders why Laz focused on Abs after Cain lynch
-leaning towards voting Laz
-votes Laz

DAY 4
-can't find any vote patterns to help find heathens
-thinks Mary Mag lynch was the work of the Heathens
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MALCHUS

DAY 1:
-calls Absalom out on feeling good about Nic

DAY 2:
-doesn't believe Absalom didn't kill Martha
-not sus of Uzz- calls out Jonathan for being so sus of Uzz
-possible sus of Mary Mag
-Thinks Cain may be bad and Uzz not

N2:
-doesn't take kindly to Ruth's high horse words
-assumed some were faking silience

DAY3:
-trying to catch up post
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LOT

Not from TS
sus of Jephthah

DAY 2:
-sus of Job
-sus of Cain
-wants to hear from Esther, Bathsheba, Stephen, Hagar, Laz, Gideon


DAY 3:
-could only make one post
-suggests pattern points to Abs being bad or baddies having it out for him


NIGHT 3
-sus of Rachel for flip-flopping & hypocricy re: Belshazz's post
-also sus of Abs

DAY 4
-couldn't talk or vote all day

NIGHT 4
-sus of Abs, Nic, & Jeph for steering me into the top 2
-defends me with gnashing of teeth
-argues with Nic about what scrambling is and whether I should have defended harder against Abs
-says he knows I am a civvie; it is a fact
-continues to defend me to Nic & Abs
-tells Nic it's not a coincidence that I worte 'a LOT of people will be mad with Abs & Nic if I'm lynched' and Lot is the one who comes out swinging


DAY 5
-says vote will be for Jeph, Uzz, or Abs
-agrees with Stephen's sus of Jeph over wishy washy
-says Laz looks better after Job's death
-votes Jeph
-thinks Uzz likely Horseman, Jeph Heathen
-refuses to clarify stance on Laz- says he's explained it fine

DAY 6
-thinks Mordecai, Isaac, Jacob, Deb, Abs, and possibly Jonathan & Ruth look bad via D1 vote
-analyzing votes of individuals out of context- slippery slope
-comes away from analysis thinking Jacob & Isaac are Heathen; Deb & Ruth possibly
-reads non-Heathen on Abs
-Jeph's voting record shaky


Sorry if you feel my recap on Lot is incomplete. I skipped most of his early posts since he knows me to be good.
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LAZARUS

DAY 2:
-oops- I'll catch up. Sorry!
-claims Absalom pushing Cain lynch
accuses Bathsheba of blending

N2:
-agrees w/ Ruth's lurking strategy to show silenced

DAY 3:
-asks for Mordecai's thoughts on Abs

DAY 4
-votes Abs & says he's been shady all game

DAY 5
-sticks to his guns & votes Abs
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JUDAH

DAY 3:
-says he tries to keep up but sees nothing that sticks out, then asks for breakdown of what has happened

DAY4
-asked for a recap & got one from Absalom
-says he'll vote for one of the people brought up: Rachel, Job, Uzz, Me, Nic
-asks Jeph why he didn't vote for Samuel if he thought Sam's vote was fishy
-states he votes me for no real reason (bothers him some) but he doesn't want to miss another vote
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JONATHAN

sus of Samson
-makes ultimatum for Samosn to speak or get voted

DAY 2:
-sus of Uzz
-3rd to mention silence of Paul- wants to hear his opions on lots of things
-Makes a lazy request for case on Cain
-puts his vote on whether Cain talks or not
-not voting Cain because Cain is already a goner

DAY3:
-says Ruth's not answering my question makes him queasy
-sus of Mary Mag for hasty votes and low content
-curious why Rebecca voted Jeph twice
-likes my lists
-votes Laz based on posts by Mordecai & me

DAY 4
-not ready to vote for Pilate
-doesn't see what Nic sees so scummy about my post
-votes Job on merit of Belshazz & Rachel's cases

DAY 5
-says he'd have voted Deb if we all took the shotgun approach to the day like Solomon said
-thinks Deb has good point on Malchus- admits he slipped off his radar
-leaning Malchus, Jeph, Uzz for votes
-says Uzz been on his mind for a long time in the game- votes for Uzz
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JONAH

defends Paul
sus of Belshaz- wishywashy
sus of Martha
sus of BALAAM


DAY 3:
-thinks Abs being setup is most likely scenario
-sus of Rahab's request for more convo
-wary of Bathsheba
-sus of Deborah- using other player's opinions to back up her votes
-Rahab fishy because she indirectly addressed his concerns

DAY 4
-calls Jeph on his wifom post
-rather discuss other than Uzz & Job: "the longer they drag this out, the easier it will be to say we need to lynch one of them"
-doesn't think their feud means one is bad- could both be hard-headed civs
-calls Deb out for lack of Participatiion
-doesn't like the case against me, so he votes for Job

DAY 5
-sus of Jeph- would have shotgunned him had Day gone that way
-Civ read on me
-on fence about Lot
-confused by Uzz
-feels something is off with Rahab
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JEPHTHAH

defended Paul from Lot
-then questioned why we shouldn't suspect Paul
-IS HE WISHY WASHY ALL GAME?
-flip-flop: now wondering if Paul & Lot are teammates putting disance between them
-TRIED TO DECEIVE US ABOUT BEING NEW TO TS
sus of Uzziah
-thought Samuel sus in preface
-not a fan of Lot's pressure on his wishy washy-ness
-decides not to put skin in the game- makes him look good if lynch a civ; ends up voting for someone unlikely to be lynched


DAY 2:
the first one to mention Paul's quietness
-starts feeling better about Lot today
-didn't like my big list about Job-Uzz possibilities
-okay w/ Job
- sus of BALAAM & Uzz
-wishy washy on sus/voting for me
-up for a MM lynch (setting up DAY 3???) but puts on hold D2 if no one else biting


DAY 3- ponders connectin btwn Cain's vote fo Abs and is silencing
-says nothing fishy about Bathsheba's posts to date
-first to question Mary Mag on something
agrees somewhat w/ Lot
-thinks Abs being framed and//or controlled
-seconds Mordecai's pondering why "everyone" jumped on Abs
-says he is more leery of early Cain voters and the late voters who came in and spread votes around for people not in danger
-says he's coming around on my lists- not bothering him as much
-lists Rebecca, Laz, and Deb as vote prospects; also Bathsheba- a bit of a switcheroo on Bath
-says he's on the fence for Bath after I questioned him
-says Mary Mag continuing her shady style- suggests he could vote her too
-gets into an argument with Mary Mag over her participation; MM very dismissive
-still sus of Uzz or "root" post
-can see himself bandwagoning on Uzz if it comes down to it
-claims he's been sus of Mary Mag since Day 1- evidence of that???


DAY 4
-wifom re: posting as baddie to not appear as lying low
-sus of Laz for voting Abs
-asks if anyone sus of Deb
-Job's tunnel vision on Job makes him think less of him
-tries to explain his wifom post
-thinks Job thinks Uzz is bad and is just frustrated, not bad
-thinks my behavior surrounding my list making makes him think I'm civ
-dittos Job's post about sus of Rachel
-calls me out on forgetting to comment on Laz
-can see Nic's reasoning that my shrug post was scummy
-on fence about me
-thinks a moderate to high poster has to be bad
-has a potential civ theory on Laz
-still not convinced Job is bad
-warming to Nic's case- says civvies usually get more annoyed by votes
-suggests people vote Samuel for his weird post- encouraging a oddity lynch?
-suggests Samuel's vote may have been a save on me & I never talk about Samuel
-critical of Ruth for considering Uzz when it's Job v. Me
-says again he may vote me- pinged by Samuel's vote
-wants to hear from Balshazzar
-argues with Rachel on Samuel possibility
-not sus of Rachel
-sus of Samuel for his vote

DAY 5
-lots of defending
-posts defense against Lot to show Lot is either hypocrite or manipulative baddie
-thinks Lot and I are baddie teammates- Job turning civ makes me look worse, Lot was conveniently silenced and comes screaming in the thread to defend me to build cred for me b/c Lot would have cred from being silenced (how?)
-mopes- "i'll prob be lynched today- go after Lot & Balaam when I'm gone"
-lots of defense and a little wifom perhaps?- (what is the point of tearing down Lot when he can't be stoned today?)
-really whiny, borderline "I give up post"
-likes Deb's posts
-wary of drive-by voters; particular interest in Sam and Rebecca

DAY 6
-thinks Lot analyzing votes the wrong way (I agree)
-sus of Mordecai, Rachel
-reading baddie on Mordecai
-still sus of Samuel
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JACOB

DAY 1
-makes a totally useless I'll catch up post
-does a 'what he said' w/ Mordecai, same ultimatum as Jonathan

N1:
-defends Absalom from Martha

Day 2:
-also quick to dismiss Martha's death as an Absalom frame


DAY 3:
-Uzz too easy a target
-thinks Abs is okay
-doesn't want to vote Job b/c not around
-most likely to vote Mary Mag

DAY 4
-thinks Job & Rachel civvie
-likes Nic & Abs's cases on me

NIGHT 4
-"oops I missed the vote but would have voted Balaam"

DAY 5
-says Rachel is only name that stands out to him on the poll
-trusts Lot
-wary of Jeph
-sus of Uzz and Jeph- think both baddie

DAY 6
-"oops I missed the vote- yay dead baddie"
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ISAAC

DAY 1
-let's focus more n the Heathens
-questions Samson's intentions w/ his vote


DAY 3:
-sus of Job on gut, not substance
-not sus of Uzz
-admits to being a replacement player
-more trusting of me after a re-read
-re-read of Pilate leaves him neutral- not enough to go on
-slight defense of Abs, floats possibility he is being controlled D3 or framed by baddies
-says he has Abs back D3
-liked my recap list
-wants to hear more from Bath
-wary of Mary Mag
-agrees with me on Pilate re: Rachel
-says he really trusts Rachel
-votes for Job based on Rachel's/Paul's case


NIGHT 3:
-still sus of Job, Laz
-Doesn't see Lot's case against Rachel

DAY 4
-feels good about Abs & me

NIGHT 4
-"crap I missed vote- would have voted Job though b/c was sus of him"
-sus of Nic for blowing case for me into big deal after I got just one vote
-feels good about Abs, Rachel & me

DAY 5
-Jumps on Uzz's post and says he's sus of Pilate
-agrees with Deb on Malchus
-thinks Pilate's post is full of wifom
-votes Jeph
-doesn't feel great about lynching Uzz
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ESTHER

N2:
-makes an oh darn missed vote shame on me comment, says would have voted Uzz

DAY 3:
-hey all, I'm the strong silent type. When I have something t say, I'll say it an I'm usually right!
-jumps on Belshazz's sus of Ruth's comment
-likes my lists

DAY 4
-sus of Pilate for his post of surprise at not being susepcted by more people yet
-also sus of Job & Uzz
-fence sitting on Pilate
-votes Job again

DAY 5
-pointless posts, leads to her trusting Job & votes Uzz
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DEBORAH

DAY 1:
-never caught up but voted for Cain after he started taking some heat- Cain Train is a go
-has a positive read from Absalom
-planned to vote for someone who already had voted or who had votes- FISHY!!!


DAY 2:
-sus of BALAAM
-sus of Mary Mag
-early to bring up sus of Mary Mag
-very defensive of her vote for Cain D1
-lots of outrage, thinks Lot supporting Uzz
-drive-by vote with little research into new issues (CAIN)


DAY 3
-another "sorry, catching up" post
-lists Mary Mag as her top sus, plans to re-read a few people
-likes Lot's post re: Abs and patterns
-thinks sus of Rachel is overblown
-sus of Pilate for jumping on Rachel sus

DAY 4
-another "catching up" post
-called out by Jonah for slacking
-self-votes and another apology for not catching up

DAY 5
-finally shows up to play- considering all those on the stoning poll
-reads Abs as good
-Bath doesn't read civ- voted on a shrug and posting fluff
-Neutral read on Esther
-Civ read on Isaac
-Civ read on Jeph
-Likely civ read on Jonah
-sus of Laz- thinks his reasoning for sussing Abs doesn't add up
-Baddie read on Malchus
-neutral read on Pilate
-says Pilate scattered but not screaming baddie
-neutral on Rachel
-Rahab neutral
-Ruth wishy washy
-Rebecca neutral
-not seeing anything better to vote on than Malchus or Laz
-neutral on Sam
-Stephen & Uzz playing to socks- says they're too deep in sock mode to read
-votes Malchus for a nudge
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Re: Biblical Mafia [CHAPTER VI]

BELSHAZZAR

PREFACE:
-sus of Belshazz & Ruth (clearly I screwed this up somehow. Can't remember who he was sus of but obviously not himself)

DAY 1:
-wary of Horsemen
sus of Samson- did not like his vote
sus of Jephthah for being wishy washy
sus of Uzziah
-originator of Cain suspicion!!!


N2:
-claims D2 silenced
-used past game intel to stick with his vote for cain
-disputes lurking theory on Cain- says he was visible other days too


DAY 3: Jumps on my ? for Ruth as if it is something very important
-not on board with voting Uzz- sounds rouge civ to him
-intends to re-read Abs and me
-thinks Deborah looks least good of 3 late Cain voters
-not sure why Mordecai and Jeph see nothing fishy in Bathsheba
-points out Rachel's hypocrisy for threatening Abs over list-bashing when she questioned me on it D2
-willing to follow Solomon and vote Bathsheba if she drive-by's again [BATHSHEBA missed the vote]
-still a little too hung up on Ruth's comment
-frowns at Mary's "trying to catch up and be helpful post" after I had her on my short-list
-doesn't think Uzz will be baddie
-still sus of Bath since she has blown off game until late
-may vote Mary Mag due to her drive-by on Rachel
-gives Bath BOTD- votes Mary Mag b/c of her behavior and drive-by vote
-also not cool w/ the "kill Uzz so he's gone" plan

NIGHT 3
-immediately accused by Nic of saving a teammate (Uzz)

DAY 4
-mentions baddies changing tactics- killing quiet ones now- maybe they're running out of talkatives to kill without being obvious?
-no read on Uzz
-questions Esther's and Isaac's certainty on Pilate
-not completely sold on Abs's case on me
-doesn't quite buy Nic's accusation on me yet
-wonders about Barnabas, Bath, Malchus, & Rebecca
-reads genuine on Job thru Day 2 but his actions since give pause
-not inclined to vote for me; doesn't sense teamwork btwn Sameul & me
-concerned about voting Job and continuing his streak of blood on his hands


DAY 5
-wonders why I'm off the stoning poll
-writes a breif breakdown of NK's so far
-wonders why Pharoah is doing all the killing after Jezebel did N1
-wonders again why I'm off the stoning poll
-what do we do about Uzz?- says Nic was mad when he tried to get Uzz killed and failed
-agrees with Lot's picking apart of Abs & Nic's case against me
-if he were to go shotgun, it would be Deb or Pilate
-feels Jeph's defense is genuine
-sus of Samuel for crazy vote rational
-intrigued by Pilate's post re: Uzz setting him up
-lists the quiet folks
-no read on Esther, Judah, Rahab, Rebecca
-votes Samuel due to his vote post logic not holding up to evidence and timeline
by Prisoner 509378
Mon May 18, 2015 12:20 pm
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Re: Biblical Mafia [CHAPTER VI]

BATHSHEBA

DAY 2:
-conflicted about voting Cain
-votes Cain because he's a possibility and he's a goner already
-throws a smiley at Laz

NIGHT 4
-comes in with an "aww shucks I suck this game- sorry guys!" post
by Prisoner 509378
Mon May 18, 2015 12:19 pm
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Re: Biblical Mafia [CHAPTER VI]

BALAAM

DAY 2:
started making lists :-)

DAY4
-Nic jumps on me shrugging off Abs's vote


I didn't really bother take notes on myself. Why would anyone take notes on himself? Free to re-read the full thread in context and do one of these on me if you like. My re-read took me 3 days or more.
by Prisoner 509378
Mon May 18, 2015 12:16 pm
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Re: Biblical Mafia [CHAPTER VI]

ABSALOM

PREFACE:
-already thinking there is sus going on- evidence?

DAY 1
sus of Cain, Lot
no read on Samson
trusts Nicodemus
sus of Martha
-sus of Gideon- claims Gideon made a BTSC claim w/ me
-agrees to Belshaxx's suspicion of Cain, oils the gears?
called out by Cain

DAY 2:
still sus of Cain- says so very early on in the day
-willing to stone Uzz with Job- could be "instructive"
-says Heathen kill keeps us focused on talkative folks- wants to focus on quieter peeps like Cain
-again presses the importance of looking for lurkers
-reiterated my D2 comment on Cain as Leftovers
-seconded Jeph's sus of my big post
-pro Jeph
-another pro Jeph comment

N2:
-intrigued by the Laz v. Mordecai interaction


DAY 3:
-Bah! stuff begins
-doesn't see why baddies would kill Paul
-complains about my lists
-thinks I'm creating the illusion of helpfulness
-says people are jumping to conclusions instead of finding reasoning
-tries to bring Uzziah back to the table as a lynch prospect- questions why discussion of him has dropped off
-votes Uzz so we can learn his identity


NIGHT 3
-Abs actually liked my vote tally list, calls it helpful
-Finds fault with and latches onto my pessimism
-back & forth with me- says he's viewed the Horsemen as a threat all game


DAY 4
-says at start of day he is piged by me despite being the only one who feels that way
-civ vibes on Job
-sus of Uzz for surviving lynch
-states early his intention to vote for me
-thinks my desire to talk and smooth things over is a trap
-likes Belshazz's post about Job v. Uzz being forced (Horseplay?)
-says he'll vote for me again
-says he had a civ read on Nic early but now unsure due to sudden embrace of Balaam suspicion
-totally agrees with Nic's expanded case on me

NIGHT 4
-not interested in defending against Lot's onslaught- defending against the vouching of an unknown is unwise
-much attacking of Lot's logic
-tries to show Lot how he did not lead or push hard for the civvie lynches

DAY 5
-no time to catch up
-stands by convictions on Uzziah
by Prisoner 509378
Mon May 18, 2015 11:56 am
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Re: Biblical Mafia [CHAPTER VI]

First, a few thoughts:

I agree with Jeph that Lot may be analyzing the votes in the wrong way. Much as re-reading an individual's posts out of context of everything else, analyzing peoples' votes out of context is probably not a good idea either. There are three things to look for every day: The Plant, The Push, and The Pivot.

The Plant is when a person is first brought up as suspicious. This could be done innocently or nefariously. It's at least useful to know when a person was planted as a suspect because that helps us look for The Push.

The Push is when others start to glom onto or build on a suspicion for one reason or another. Sometimes it happens right away and sometimes it happens a day or two later. This is where a suspect starts to pick up steam and people start voting that way because it seems like a lot of people are talking about them. The Push influences the low posters and those who chime in (or appear to chime in) last-minute looking for something on the last page to vote for.

The Pivot is where momentum seems to shift from one player to another in the thread or in the poll. The Pivot is not always carried out by a baddie but they're usually pretty close on either side of it, if not the fulcrum.

The Push is not an isolated event. There are usually pushes before and after the Pivot on days when only a few suspects are being seriously considered. We've had a few of those.

What we need to do is go back and look for Plants, Pushes, and Pivots in each stoning period. We're still going to have to speculate on baddies trailing in at the end but the three P's help us find those who are stirring up a bad case, voting after said puffery, and those who try to plant names for the next day.

The next thing I'm going to do is post my notes on every player left in the game, plus one or two dead ones if I think there's something interesting there. Rather than dump a crazy amount on you guys all at once, I'm going to do my notes on each player in a separate post. After that, I'll post my own take on vote analysis. Hopefully between my notes and the vote analysis we can find those three P's and sniff out some baddies.

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