The Syndicate

Dom wrote:Congrats, guys!

I was Chronos, for the record. I played the best game I could, especially given the huge conglomerate.

You played a great game! I had no idea what was really happening.

thank you to SVS and Juliets to the best game I've played in a long time.

I am really sorry about that last vote Dom, but we had been trying to finish this thing for three days and you kept thwarting us. We had to use every trick in the book. I think you played magnificently. I only worked out that you were Hinzelmann a couple of days ago.

Yay! Great job team, you were all awesome! That was touch and go for like three day periods in a row, but we finally did it!

Thank you SVS and juliets for an incredibly fun game!

Chronos wrote:

Apollo wrote:Votes Phoenix

liar

the result of this lynch, in no way, vindicates phoenix

What? Oh no! How do I change it?

Chronos wrote:

Apollo wrote:

Chronos wrote:

Aphrodite wrote:have to vote now my mommy needs me *chronos*

What?

Aphrodite, you, nor anyone else, has given a single reason to vote me.

Well, I am pretty sure I am pretty much alone among baddies.

I am still here Chronos! I will be joining your Phoenix vote, but I'm waiting to see what Zeus and Ceres do first (I assume Phoenix will either vote for you or miss the vote, the wily devil.)

Zeus is probably gonna vote for me.

For what reason? Who even knows? No one in the past two days has given an actual reason why I should be lynched.

When you are on the side of evil, chaos is its own reason.

Chronos wrote:

Aphrodite wrote:have to vote now my mommy needs me *chronos*

What?

Aphrodite, you, nor anyone else, has given a single reason to vote me.

Well, I am pretty sure I am pretty much alone among baddies.

I am still here Chronos! I will be joining your Phoenix vote, but I'm waiting to see what Zeus and Ceres do first (I assume Phoenix will either vote for you or miss the vote, the wily devil.)

Aphrodite wrote:Yah well I have been picked last or never my whole life. You have to admit Apollo that there are some reveals that have happened that are not quite right.

That is certainly true, but I'm not sure what it has to do with recruiting.

Aphrodite wrote:

Chronos wrote:

Zeus wrote:Solum facit quod me incunctanter rogandis chronos est Eostre eum resurrexisse. Num et ipsa quamque teneor.

Rezzing me was no mistake...

Tbh I am reviewing all my thoughts. I am wondering about everyone I previously have trusted.

Do you believe there has been recruiting?
Because I do.

This game is ott with secrets and vote manips. Nothing has been what it seemed all game. Some people I would have sworn they were good have turned up bad and vice-versa. So I have to wonder if what i believe is true actually is.

If there has been so much recruiting, why has nobody recruited me? I feel left out...

Aphrodite wrote:going to dentist
he is yummy hot to trot
wide my mouth opens

the worst pain ever
cannot focus hurts badly
pull the fucker out

smiling and gleaming
shiny white in a neat row
not teeth just my toes

Aphrodite has
So many teeth it's crazy
Her mouth overflows

Sharpened incisors
Rat-like in his pallid face
Nosferatu wakes

Chronos wrote:I'll be very interested to see how Apollo votes.

Do you really have any doubts at this point?

Artemis wrote:Can we do limericks now?

There once was a man with one tooth
A seeker of knowledge and truth
In a diner most squalid he ate nothing solid
But slurped soup always in the same booth

The following haiku is a true story.

Furry little friend
Have a nut. Ow, my finger!
That's a lot of blood.

Sharp tools in my mouth
Dentist or inquisition?
No difference, really.

Tie thread to doorknob
Ready? On Three. One... Two... SLAM!
Painless extraction

Chronos wrote:

Apollo wrote:

Chronos wrote:Does anyone want to discuss how many baddies are on each team? We know there's only one left on the Spookshaw. At most two on the new Gods, right?

Anyone think one of the New Gods got NK'd? Just looking at how many players are left, it's very possible.

I'm thinking one left on each team, because I think Pandora's flip was a lie.

I hope so.
What did you make of the rush to vote for me at the end? I was very surprised Aprhodite did and I am hoping she was controlled.

It definitely looked strange, but I myself am far from convinced you are a civvie, so I'm not sure whether it was a baddie team acting in concert (unlikely since I think there is only one member on each team) or some other shady behind the scenes mumbo jumbo. I think there are still a lot of secrets in this game, which makes analysis tough.

Chronos wrote:Does anyone want to discuss how many baddies are on each team? We know there's only one left on the Spookshaw. At most two on the new Gods, right?

Anyone think one of the New Gods got NK'd? Just looking at how many players are left, it's very possible.

I'm thinking one left on each team, because I think Pandora's flip was a lie.

Hello everyone! Sorry I've been so absentee. That ends now. I'm very pleased we got rid of mars at last!

I was actually in Maryland this weekend, so I vote for that, and also East!

Sorry for being so absent today, but I have been very busy and just have time for a quick vote.

Take that, Phoenix!

Aphrodite wrote:So Apollo Phoenix is actually on the poll
Will you be voting for him?

Yes, I will be.

Yes, Virginia, we are going to go East.

Aphrodite wrote:Apollo- How was Phoenix saving Pandora with his vote? She was Low Key an indy.

But I now believe she was a civ.

I was trying to say that Pluto was saving Pandora with his vote for Phoenix. I am not convinced that every role has been truthfully revealed upon being lynched, but I disagree on your last point.

After much consideration, I've decided to cast my vote for Pluto today.
Here are my reasons:
1. Eros wanted Pluto lynched before he died, and Eros has a good track record of knowing people's alignments.
2. In the tied lynch between Pluto and Phoenix, there were shenanigans to save one or both of them, resulting in a civ death (a civ who was suspicious of Pluto) I would vote for Phoenix if he were on the poll, but he is not.
3. The timing of his Phoenix vote does look like it was meant to save Pandora.
4. This quote feels entirely too eager to deal out death for a supposedly peace-loving civ.

Pluto wrote: Hmmmmm....so much for that one then.

Back to figuring out someone else to vote for today.

*Vote Pluto*

You know you could never upset me.
For good measure, here are some more quotes from Day 6. I cannot explain my position any more clearly than what I said here.

Apollo wrote: I'm getting a really bad vibe from Pandora, but she hasn't been around much today, so let's see if we can't coax her out with a vote. After all, I was cheated out of voting for her yesterday when I wanted to.

Votes Pandora

Apollo wrote: Pandora, honestly your comment about "there's no reason to suspect me yet" was a super big red flag for me. I believe it was a slip, and that's what I'm basing my vote on.

Aphrodite and Pluto, I wanted to vote for her yesterday, but I couldn't because she had just been reborn, as Eros kindly pointed out to me as I announced my intentions.

Apollo wrote:

Medusa wrote:Where's Phoenix? What do we know about Phoenix?

I still think he might be Hinzelmann, but as the days go by with still no kills from him, I'm starting to wonder if he is dead after all.

bah, quote fail.

Aphrodite wrote: I was thinking about when Pandora and Phoenix were up for lynch. You seem upset that I keep questioning you for that I am sorry. But a doubt in my mind needs to be cleared up. Besides I think Pandora was a civ. So there is that for me to consider as well.

Yes, Day 6.

Apollo wrote: I've explained more than once that I didn't vote for him two days ago because by that time I thought Hinzelmann was probably dead. When Hinzelmann proved to be alive, I immediately voted for Phoenix (for which you criticized me. Make up your mind.)

I don't know what else you expect me to say, when I have explained my position on that vote many times.

Aphrodite wrote: Apollo why didn`t you respond to Phoenixs last post? Asking about your "case" and that you really haven`t tried to lynch him and when you had the chance to finally vote him after talking about him for DAYS you did not vote for him. tbh its that post of his coupled with Ceres thoughts that really make me doubt he is in fact Hinzelman.

I've explained more than once that I didn't vote for him two days ago because by that time I thought Hinzelmann was probably dead. When Hinzelmann proved to be alive, I immediately voted for Phoenix (for which you criticized me. Make up your mind.)

Then he miraculously survived the lynch which should have claimed either his or Pluto's life, and I cannot vote for him today. Why didn't I "lead" a lynch against him? I was unaware that I held a leadership position in this body. I voted for him yesterday and convinced many others to do the same. I'm not sure what else I could have done. I will be voting for him again tomorrow, assuming I survive that long. I still think his voting record tallies with Hinzelmann's kills better than that of any other player.

Chronos wrote:

Apollo wrote:

Chronos wrote:

Apollo wrote:Yeah, you missing the vote yesterday and Hinzelmann failing to kill last night does not look suspicious at all. Not to mention your inexplicable survival (along with Pluto) of yesterday's lynch. I was planning to vote for you today, so you are lucky you are not on the poll.

Who are you looking at today, then, Apollo?

Given Eros' earlier insight, I think it would be foolhardy to ignore his last warnings before perishing. It will be between Pluto and Mars. I will do a reread of both tomorrow and make my decision.

I have found Pluto's recent actions questionable. But can you give me a quick recap on Mars?

The major point against Mars is his apparent defense of Hercules, who flipped bad. Before that, I just had a gut feeling on him.

Chronos wrote:

Apollo wrote:Yeah, you missing the vote yesterday and Hinzelmann failing to kill last night does not look suspicious at all. Not to mention your inexplicable survival (along with Pluto) of yesterday's lynch. I was planning to vote for you today, so you are lucky you are not on the poll.

Who are you looking at today, then, Apollo?

Given Eros' earlier insight, I think it would be foolhardy to ignore his last warnings before perishing. It will be between Pluto and Mars. I will do a reread of both tomorrow and make my decision.

Yeah, you missing the vote yesterday and Hinzelmann failing to kill last night does not look suspicious at all. Not to mention your inexplicable survival (along with Pluto) of yesterday's lynch. I was planning to vote for you today, so you are lucky you are not on the poll.

We are not going east and, as much as I love Elvis, that makes me a sad Apollo.

My favorite Elvis song is Paralyzed, from his second album simply titled "Elvis."


However, I prefer the slower version recorded on the Million Dollar Quartet album with Jerry Lee Lewis and Carl Perkins to the studio version.

Pluto wrote:In fact, I'm going to go ahead and put my vote on Phoenix for now because I feel confident enough about him. I may change it later if something comes up to change my mind, but I feel that's one less baddie we could be dealing with.

Good luck with that.

S~V~S wrote:
Everyone post a favorite Elvis story, song, picture, whatever. Then we vote tomorrow night. Post it in the thread, and PM the link to the post to both JC & I.

Apollo, God of the Sun, is confused by this instruction. Do we post our stuff in the thread now and PM it it to you tomorrow? Do we wait to post until the voting happens? Can some clarification be obtained from our wise and glorious hostesses?

RIPIWG Ares

So Electra has been immune for three out of seven day/night cycles. How fortunate for her.

Aphrodite wrote:

Apollo wrote:Oh, and I voted West Virginia because I want to go east!

What is up with your fascination to head east?

What do you think of Eros throwing down his suspicions on you?
Who are you focused on this lynch?
for me it between Mars, Pluto or maybe you. But I want to see if you can actually lead us to a baddie first before I start throwing my votes at you.
Ceres - I asked earlier but maybe you missed it, how sure are you about Phoenix?

These are all good questions. Thank you for asking!
1. East is where the Sun lives, and Apollo wants to go home. Why is everyone else so determined to keep me from getting there?
2. Eros turning on me did not surprise me at all. Whenever someone goes without too much scrutiny for a long period of time, they deserve to be examined. No one has given me all that hard of a time so far, despite my high post count, so I expected people to start looking at me.
3. I want to see whether Hinzelmann kills tonight. Phoenix missed the vote, so that will tell me a lot. I also think Eros' dying case on Pluto must be taken very seriously, since he flipped civ and had shown remarkable prescience earlier. Mars is certainly another possibility, but I don't feel like I have a concrete case on him, more of a gut feeling, and my gut has been sorely flawed this game.

Oh, and I voted West Virginia because I want to go east!

I still think Zeus' plan to let three people, who may well be bad, control the lynch is madness. Especially with the lynch manipulations that have obviously been going on.

:o

S~V~S wrote:Seven people voted? Really?

I voted! Reward, please!

Aphrodite wrote: Apollo - yes lets [img]http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj18 ... er.gif[img] Are you most sure about Phoenix? More so than Helios, Pluto, Ares or Mars?

I think based on objective analysis of the voting record, Phoenix is the most likely to be Hinzelmann, and I want Hinzelmann dead. I suspect Mars of being on one of the baddie teams. I am very nervous about Electra, Ares and Helios for laying so low. Still not sure about Pluto, but Eros' last point makes me wonder. That's why I'm voting the way I am.

Eros wrote: Also, you were a Wisconsin voter. I think people need to consider that.

So I like cheese. Sue me.

Aphrodite wrote: Apollo that is not what I meant and you know it!!

Okay. Let's make up and be friendly!

juliets wrote:Only an hour left and only 3 votes in! Come on everyone, you know you want to use those night powers!

People are probably just afraid to vote, because voting is apparently the same thing as shutting down discussion.

Eros wrote: I recall voting for you one Day and you didn't seem bothered by that one bit. It would seem you have the civilians firmly on your side, which would mean you are in an extremely comfortable position as Hinzelman.

Aphrodite certainly isn't on my side, although I don't know whether she's a civilian or not. I notice you haven't taken many votes this game either, so be careful who you call black, Mr. Pot.

I was hoping to get some insight from you on your suspicion of Pluto, but it appears you are unwilling to discuss it.

Aphrodite wrote:Apollo - As per my post the other day I believe you to be Hinzelman. I do think you have recruited. So tell me is your recruit running the show?

So with all your empirical evidence you thought Hinzelman dead?

I am not he, and I have no recruit. Sorry to disappoint.

The empirical evidence said nothing about the living or dead status of Hinzelmann. It said IF Hinzelmann is alive, he is likely to be one of these people. I now know he is alive (it is conceivable that he was Chronos, but I think this unlikely) so I am going with what I have.

Is it a coincidence that just after you say Eros has never been suspicious of me, he starts acting suspicious of me, I wonder?

linki: Eros. Thank you. It is possible, but it is equally possible that Phoenix is, or you for that matter.

Eros wrote:

Apollo wrote: If I were Hinzelmann, I would be killing like crazy. The reason I brought up Hinzelmann a lot is that I thought I had the most empirical evidence on him, as I mentioned before.

I'm not sure I believe this. I would love to explain why if you are interested.

I am always interested, and also interested in your thoughts on Pluto v. Mars.

Aphrodite wrote: BTW if you are so sure about Phoenix why didn`t you vote him last time when the lynch was between Pandora and Phoenix?

Because we had seen four consecutive nights without a Hinzelmann kill and I was starting to think he was already dead. Then he killed Night 6, revealing himself to be still around.

Interesting point about recruitment. Do you think the original Hinzelmann could be dead and a recruit of his is now killing? That would make our analysis of missed votes fairly useless, if true.

Vesta wrote:Alright, I am throwing out my idea that Electra is another Hinzie candidate. Rereading her 13 posts, she didnt vote Day 1, so no way she could have killed that night. Looks like Phoenix is once again the best candidate, so thats most likely where I will vote today. I thought him more likely a spook, but worth considering Electra on that front.

Helios...I'll be watchin' you too I think.

Linki - what is the case on Pluto? I feel like I missed something.

I don't really see the case on Pluto either, but Eros challenged him a little earlier and said he was thinking of voting for him, so I wanted to hear what he had to say.

Eros wrote:

Pluto wrote:RIP Medusa and Chronos. I wasn't 100% sure on either of you. I was leaning civvie on Medusa and have no idea on Chronos.

Aphrodite, why do you think Eros has never been suspicious of Apollo? Because I was under the impression that Eros was initially early on in the game.

I wouldn't mind a Pluto lynch.

Pluto wrote:Glad to see Eros has given plenty of thought and time into his early vote. I might have to re-read him today. Because he's starting to give me the willies at times.

I don't seem to be on the poll today. So thank you Mr. Ibis for that!

I've demonstrated my goodness, and you doubted it.

Eros, who do you think is more likely to be bad, Mars or Pluto?