The Syndicate

Tituba conjuring the ghost of Bridget Bishop wrote:Falsely convicted and hanged twice.

Barbara Kollerin wrote:One person I've got an eye on is Rebecca Nurse. It could be coincidental, but her insistence in recapping the reasons Agnes was suspicious 15 minutes before Agnes died feels like something a baddie would do to distance themselves from the upcoming kill... as in "if I were bad, would I really have mentioned her right before the kill?"

The other thing about Rebecca is bringing up Bridgets vote and comment about the Devil. Ive been on lots of baddie teams where there is an ability to force someones vote, and so many times its a baddie member who first mentions it in thread... baddies like to get their handiwork talked about for dome reason. The other main reason is that often, along with a vote force is the cavaet that if the target lets on that they were forced, the baddies get something. So, the more you try to get it talked about, the better the chance you get something. I think it is safe to assume that one of the baddie curses does this, considering how they work in the books.

Rebecca fits this right now, for me.

Barbara Kollerin wrote:I've put some thought to it, and I think there are good odds that a Bridget lynch would be futile, but I'd be willing to try, anyway.

Barbara Kollerin wrote:I may as well cut and paste Jennets post to show my reasons, we are apparently in sync on this. At this point a Bridget lynch is the best option.

Jennet Bierley wrote:Is anyone else excited for the quest for the cloak of invisibility tonight?

I'm still perusing posts to decide who to vote for. I can think of a couple reasons why we should leave Bridget alone for now, but I'm not sure everyone else agrees.

Jennet Bierley wrote:Well, let's just say that there could be multiple things that are causing her to say this. OR, that could just be her playing style. Every single post she's made has been short and sweet, not just here votes. I mean, imagine if her vote was being controlled by someone else. I'm not entirely convinced either, but I see what Barbara's saying, and don't want to just disregard it just yet.

@ Margarethe. You also said you could see an innocent reason for Bridget's actions earlier. What was that reason and why is it no longer valid? Also, what makes you think Barbara or myself has information about Bridget? That is a risky conclusion to come to.

Jennet Bierley wrote:I think that a lynch is far from futile today, particularly since this is a bigger game with many players and (presumably) not too many mafia. It may or may not help us learn something, especially after yesterday's lynch failed. There's also the off-chance that we lynch a baddy. I would definitely lynch Bridget before going with a no lynch today, though. Also, my thoughts on Bridget are not based on facts at all, merely hunches as a result of this game's mechanics.

Anne Redferne wrote:Then... what are you trying to accomplish?

Krystyna Ceynowa wrote:

Anne Redferne wrote:Then... what are you trying to accomplish?

Probably either voldemort and cannot be lynched while he has any teammates alive (and NKed while Harry is would be my guess), or the usual nonsense reason in the scenario I have the right person or it's someone trying to pull off being taken for that person.

Krystyna Ceynowa wrote:

Anne Redferne wrote:Oh... By puppet did you mean "sockpuppet"? I thought you were speaking all dramatically to refer to the theory that Bridget's vote was being controlled, hence her being a "puppet". I didn't expect you to be breaking the 4th wall this soon in the game.

I was never one of the people pretending to be my witch. It's useless behavior in other sock games, and when it continues on for days it leads to lynch after lynch that has no use. I don't even buy the idea her vote was ever forced (Imperius is used on even nights, and there was no night to for a vote before D1 to explain that).

And it isn't about being bitter Bridget, it's about (if I'm right), my seeing you playing like this as a baddie thinking it would result in people not voting for you because you've done the same thing before to ill effect. Or you're pulling a move from that player hoping for the same result. Either way, it wasn't civvie behavior then, and it still isn't.

Krystyna Ceynowa wrote:

Anne Redferne wrote:I don't feel good about this lynch at all... There are way too many easy votes coming in for Bridget. I'm voting for Krystyna Ceynowa, I think her reason for voting Bridget make the least sense and stick out to me as just making up reasons. If Bridget were a puppet why would that make her worthy of a vote?

I said I think we all know who is behind this puppet, this is standard behavior from them, slightly modified, because they are behind the puppet, and I'm voting for them because I'm not giving them the BOTD that acting like a baddie for their bullshit reason of it helping civs that they like to argue about when they pull it is as suspicious as it always is.

If someone is making up a reason for a vote, it's you.

Märet Jonsdotter wrote:I voted.

Anne Redferne wrote:

Märet Jonsdotter wrote:

Anne Redferne wrote:Why bridget?

Did you read anything we've talked about?
Bridget claims to know that none of the members of Voldemort's team can survive a lynch. Regardless of what we think of Agnes, I see only one way that Bridget would know that no one on Voldemort's team can survive a lynch.

I have read everything, yes, but thank you for your concern, Märet.

To me it just seems like Bridget is making somewhat logical conjectures based on the available data, but stating them as absolute facts. Odd behavior yeah, but I don't see it as necessarily being a role related thing. I just don't think I'm quite as convinced as you are on the matter.

Yes, but ignoring unknown information indicates that she either knows the unknown information or doesn't care about facts.

Entjen Gillis wrote:The only way you'd know she was good Bridget is if you are a member of the other team

Krystyna Ceynowa wrote:As for useful information, Mary, Bridget, and Entjen, based on posts since D2 started, are the candidates for my vote as of now. Between the three of them, I think there is some intentional misinformation being spread, and while I seriously doubt more than one of them is VA, I do expect I will be voting for one of them today. Hopefully further discussion (and host clarifications, I'm interested to know if we'll get explicit win conditions, but if we do I would have follow up questions) will make it more clear which of the three I should go with.

Krystyna Ceynowa wrote:I'm voting Bridget. I think we all have a pretty good idea who is behind the puppet, and I think this is just typical them trying something slightly different because they have a puppet to hide behind. I honestly don't think (s)he expected to be called on it with votes, and that was the reason for taking the risk.

Märet Jonsdotter wrote:

Bridget Bishop wrote:

Rebecca Nurse wrote:So is no one going to talk about Bridget seeing Alizon with the devil and voting for her? Care to elaborate, Bridge?

She's bad, k

Are you gonna respond to my questions?

Rebecca Nurse wrote:So is no one going to talk about Bridget seeing Alizon with the devil and voting for her? Care to elaborate, Bridge?

Entjen Gillis wrote:

Bridget Bishop wrote:

Entjen Gillis wrote:a bit surprised by the choice there. Ripiywg Agnes

I'm not surprised at all. She can't be lynched. She's not bad.

The end.

There are secrets. Just because she wasn't lynched doesn't mean she is automatically good. There wasn't a high probability of her being lynched again today, I just wasn't expecting her to be nightkilled since there was so much focus on her.

Mary Eastey wrote:Weird NK, not really sure what to make of this.

Entjen Gillis wrote:a bit surprised by the choice there. Ripiywg Agnes

Agnes Sampson wrote:

Entjen Gillis wrote:I voted Agnes. Had to vote now :/ sorry. I'm far from confident about her, but i don't like some of her responses this past day
and better you then me

Your responses leave something to be desired as well. Plus you are not reading when I say I WILL NOT BE LYNCHED:

I guess you thought nothing of lets say Bridget for jumping on your post and voting me? I ill guess not.