The Syndicate

[mention]Rimworld Boyz[/mention]

Be ready to self-pres if you're around

DrSloogy wrote: ↑Wed Jul 11, 2018 6:11 pm

2 Stupid Dogs wrote: ↑Wed Jul 11, 2018 6:02 pm

DrSloogy wrote: ↑Wed Jul 11, 2018 5:58 pm Dunya, what is your aim to gain targeting my other head the way you have. Do you disagree with the vote altogether? Or just the process in which my other head placed the vote?

I disagreed with the reasoning behind the vote, and his defence of it. I wasn't persuaded convincingly about his intentions. I felt there was too much backtracking when I pursued him too (weak ~placeholder vote~ but oh, if it's daisy, that changes how I look at it...) (the vote wasn't the reason I voted for Galactic Mac) (you're misreading my reasons) and it didn't strike me as Town Sloonei, but rather scum sloonei looking for entrances on a lynch--somewhere safe to park his vote

[VOTE: 2 Stupid Dogs] aubergine

Honestly I thought that was a towny post from Dunya, regardless of your alignment

agreed with the no-show stuff. I see it as NAI, but if the people that's around show some amount of towniness, then the people that aren't around automatically become more likely scum in my book. That's just how it works

If my other head was around he'd probably defend Sloogy based on his comment on them earlier, and i dont have a townread on Rim, so that's a pretty easy choice between the 2 for me

[VOTE: Rimworld Boyz] aubergine

linki: lol, i just voted Rim on the poll and see this b4 i post it in the thread.

Anyway, idk. My vote was mainly PoE based more than anything else. Think you've been ok since you came into the thread recently

2 Stupid Dogs wrote: ↑Wed Jul 11, 2018 3:35 pm i'm waiting for my partner in crime to tell me more about fractal. admittedly, i have never played with them and didn't follow the courage game as intently as i should have. but i got really bad vibes from sloonei on his galactic mac vote tbh. "their vote doesn't inspire confidence" -- so much bs.

It was T.H that voted me, correct?

DrSloogy wrote: ↑Wed Jul 11, 2018 3:28 pm Town read on fratyo now, by the way.

i feel a slight bit better about you too, not quite on the level of my top 3 though.

My thoughts on 2dog's read on lunatella is basically this:

If 2dogs are scum, the way they defended Lunatella makes Lunatella basically ALWAYS town.

If 2dogs are town, i think their defense makes Lunatella only slightly more likely to be town in my eyes just because i put some amount of faith in their read on Luna.

DrSloogy wrote: ↑Wed Jul 11, 2018 3:17 pm

Fratyo wrote: ↑Wed Jul 11, 2018 3:14 pm and i didn't understand what that post meant, but i assume tvis was "this" and you were talking about the post you quoted.

So what does that post have to do with our internal disagreement about you? Also, how do you know at which point our disagreements started considering we all have BTSC?

The internal disagreement is just incidental. It doesn’t really factor into my confusion, I was simply making a note of it. I am assessings things as I see them unfolding in the thread.

My entire point of confusion is that I did not know the meaning of the post that I quoted.

Oh. Neither do I ^^

DrSloogy wrote: ↑Wed Jul 11, 2018 3:15 pm

Fratyo wrote: ↑Wed Jul 11, 2018 3:12 pm

DrSloogy wrote: ↑Wed Jul 11, 2018 3:09 pm

Fratyo wrote: ↑Wed Jul 11, 2018 3:07 pm

DrSloogy wrote: ↑Wed Jul 11, 2018 2:52 pm Fratyo opened with lots of jokes which is something I sometimes like to look at as an early scumtell. Every once in a while somebody cracks lots of jokes because they want to be involved but can’t figure out how to do it naturally.

When it came time for actual gameplay they said they felt “not so good” about us (which at the time was just me, as wilgy had not posted yet). There was later some internal dispute about that read, but not before tvis post which I can make no sense of;

Fratyo wrote: ↑Tue Jul 10, 2018 2:47 pm Glad you got that out of your systems, terrible play on words and all.


Now don’t take this the wrong way, or personal, or offensive, or legitimate, or fake, but I’m gonna huck that seasoning off your head, Wilgy.

it doesn’t feel right, yknow man? couldn’t agree more

Feels like someone is whispering in my ear, except it’s more so shouting.

Or am I the one shouting?

I choose to take this personally.

I don't understand, expand?

Are you the head that was scum reading me here? I do not know what this post meant or why I was eliciting bad feelings from you.

yeah, im the head that listed you as "feel not so good about" in the first place. My other head made the post you quoted.

I explained why i initially didn't like how you voted me a couple of hours ago

Now I’m even more confused.

But I voted for you because I felt a very slight ping towards one of your heads and, it being he very early in the game, decided a vote for you was a good first move to get things going.

What are your other reads?

my townreads are m1/Colin/2Dogs. My main suspicion is Lunatella, but 2Dogs who i townread are harddefending them so i'm ok with leaving them alone for today.

and i didn't understand what that post meant, but i assume tvis was "this" and you were talking about the post you quoted.

So what does that post have to do with our internal disagreement about you? Also, how do you know at which point our disagreements started considering we all have BTSC?

DrSloogy wrote: ↑Wed Jul 11, 2018 3:09 pm

Fratyo wrote: ↑Wed Jul 11, 2018 3:07 pm

DrSloogy wrote: ↑Wed Jul 11, 2018 2:52 pm Fratyo opened with lots of jokes which is something I sometimes like to look at as an early scumtell. Every once in a while somebody cracks lots of jokes because they want to be involved but can’t figure out how to do it naturally.

When it came time for actual gameplay they said they felt “not so good” about us (which at the time was just me, as wilgy had not posted yet). There was later some internal dispute about that read, but not before tvis post which I can make no sense of;

Fratyo wrote: ↑Tue Jul 10, 2018 2:47 pm Glad you got that out of your systems, terrible play on words and all.


Now don’t take this the wrong way, or personal, or offensive, or legitimate, or fake, but I’m gonna huck that seasoning off your head, Wilgy.

it doesn’t feel right, yknow man? couldn’t agree more

Feels like someone is whispering in my ear, except it’s more so shouting.

Or am I the one shouting?

I choose to take this personally.

I don't understand, expand?

Are you the head that was scum reading me here? I do not know what this post meant or why I was eliciting bad feelings from you.

yeah, im the head that listed you as "feel not so good about" in the first place. My other head made the post you quoted.

I explained why i initially didn't like how you voted me a couple of hours ago

DrSloogy wrote: ↑Wed Jul 11, 2018 2:52 pm Fratyo opened with lots of jokes which is something I sometimes like to look at as an early scumtell. Every once in a while somebody cracks lots of jokes because they want to be involved but can’t figure out how to do it naturally.

When it came time for actual gameplay they said they felt “not so good” about us (which at the time was just me, as wilgy had not posted yet). There was later some internal dispute about that read, but not before tvis post which I can make no sense of;

Fratyo wrote: ↑Tue Jul 10, 2018 2:47 pm Glad you got that out of your systems, terrible play on words and all.


Now don’t take this the wrong way, or personal, or offensive, or legitimate, or fake, but I’m gonna huck that seasoning off your head, Wilgy.

it doesn’t feel right, yknow man? couldn’t agree more

Feels like someone is whispering in my ear, except it’s more so shouting.

Or am I the one shouting?

I choose to take this personally.

I don't understand, expand?

Lunatella wrote: ↑Wed Jul 11, 2018 2:59 pm

Fratyo wrote: ↑Wed Jul 11, 2018 2:08 pm I think Colin is town, my other head thinks sloogy is town.

This is TH right, why am i scum? You were right the last game, you feel i'm the same way?

perhaps we should lynch this two-headed monster.

"Two-Headed Monster Mafia"

I think Colin is town, my other head thinks sloogy is town.

This is TH right, why am i scum? You were right the last game, you feel i'm the same way?

2 Stupid Dogs wrote: ↑Wed Jul 11, 2018 1:59 pm

Fratyo wrote: ↑Wed Jul 11, 2018 1:55 pm i'm gonna move our vote to dryflood for now. Like the 1-1-1-1-1-1 tie closing in for EoD

so scummy, voting the inactive off.

Is it though?

Who would you vote of the non-inactives that's not me?

M Plus 1 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 11, 2018 1:56 pm Alright, I really have to go. I’ll make sure to pop back in on phone before EoD just for like a minute just in case. Sorry.

Not sure if tsaiah will be here but I wouldn’t blame her if she wasn’t; she sounds really sick.

I’ll at least make sure I can move my vote if necessary.

You don't have to apologize lol. You're still the most active person in the game

i'm gonna move our vote to dryflood for now. Like the 1-1-1-1-1-1 tie closing in for EoD

M Plus 1 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 11, 2018 1:47 pm

Fratyo wrote: ↑Wed Jul 11, 2018 1:38 pm the 3 hydras i wouldn't lynch today so far are the following:

2 Stupid Dogs
ColinIsSpeed
M Plus 1

I’m down with this, add in you and Rimworld Boyz.

I’m cooling off Lunatella. Even if they are scum it should be more apparent soon, and the defense from dunya is compelling.

I wouldn’t feel great about lynching Epi and Simon (Cuphead and Mugman) either on d1 but I’m not sure they’re town.

Anyone else I would be willing to lynch.

So you're basically left with:
Dry flood
Galactic Mac
DrSloogy
Right?

My other head has a gutfeel Sloogy is town, so probably gonna roll with that for today

linki: Yeah, but marmot was a bit inactive for parts of the last game aswell. He's maybe a busy man

M Plus 1 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 11, 2018 1:47 pm

Fratyo wrote: ↑Wed Jul 11, 2018 1:38 pm the 3 hydras i wouldn't lynch today so far are the following:

2 Stupid Dogs
ColinIsSpeed
M Plus 1

I’m down with this, add in you and Rimworld Boyz.

I’m cooling off Lunatella. Even if they are scum it should be more apparent soon, and the defense from dunya is compelling.

I wouldn’t feel great about lynching Epi and Simon (Cuphead and Mugman) either on d1 but I’m not sure they’re town.

Anyone else I would be willing to lynch.

I think 2 dogs are town so i'm willing to let them off the hook for a day too. Not only because of the defense, but also because like i said earlier, Luna was one of the easiest people to tell they're town IMO in the courage game. i'm looking forward to see what she'll do if she's town here, she was scary to face as scum

M Plus 1 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 11, 2018 1:44 pm

Fratyo wrote: ↑Wed Jul 11, 2018 1:37 pm

M Plus 1 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 11, 2018 1:35 pm
Hi Fractal.

hi!

Really hope you're town here so we can solve together. You've done all the posting thus far right?

Likewise!

And yeah, that’s right. Unfortunately it sounds like tsaiah has a really crappy illness so she’s down for the count for now. Hopefully she will be feeling better enough to play with us soon.

[VOTE: sicknesses] aubergine best wishes to her then

ColinIsSpeed wrote: ↑Wed Jul 11, 2018 1:39 pm If Lunatella is town, 2 Stupid Dogs is probably also town. That is an earnest and well-thought defense.
If not... 2 Stupid Dogs is probably still town. That is still an earnest and well-thought defense.

Hmm. i'm more likely to follow this logic if someone calls another person SCUM and the person that's accused ends up town. Because then making an earnest accusation is really hard.

But i've seen scum earnestly defend towns countlessly many times, because they know they're telling the truth they can sometimes sound SUPER genuine.

I kind of DO like 2 dogs tone in this defense, i agree with you there, but i think some scum can replicate it pretty well when correctly defending towns

the 3 hydras i wouldn't lynch today so far are the following:

2 Stupid Dogs
ColinIsSpeed
M Plus 1

M Plus 1 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 11, 2018 1:35 pm

Fratyo wrote: ↑Wed Jul 11, 2018 1:14 pm

M Plus 1 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 11, 2018 1:02 pm

Lunatella wrote: ↑Wed Jul 11, 2018 11:39 am

M Plus 1 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 10, 2018 3:40 pm - Rimworld Boyz
I'm vibing with Kyle. Kyle is one of the most tonally-centric players I've ever met in that he reads incredibly organically when he's town and not when he's scum. Specifically if I read at least half of the posts in Kyle's ISO and can hear Kyle thinking out loud in a Vocaroo type setting, that means he's almost certainly town. Scum!Kyle can't quite replicate the way town!Kyle thinks.

Subject to change. Other input desired.

Rimworld Boyz wrote: ↑Tue Jul 10, 2018 3:44 pm i have a problem with that? up until now neither of us have posted anything that would require genuine-ness or the faking there-of. which posts seemed particularly genuine to you?

M Plus 1

For Rimworld Boyz to question M Plus 1's read of their genuineness really makes them look town. If they were scum they would have just rolled with it. Extra cred looks good. But what does this say about M Plus 1?

What do you think it says about me?

I don’t like the open-ended question at all.

[VOTE: lunatella] aubergine

lol...

now people will think i just sheeped this. i actually just read this. villapoint for mindmeld

Hi Fractal.

hi!

Really hope you're town here so we can solve together. You've done all the posting thus far right?

2 Stupid Dogs wrote: ↑Wed Jul 11, 2018 1:29 pm

Fratyo wrote: ↑Wed Jul 11, 2018 1:23 pm 2 Dogs, what do you mean by Luna looking sketchy as town? Do you think she looks less sketchy when scum? Or was this a specific way of sketchy you think she generally only looks when town?

Also, i think she was one of the most obvious and least sketchy people in all of the Courage game. It's only 1 game but still

actually that's sort of what I mean. In UPick, she was scum and her posts were all more pointed--served a purpose, slightly reserved with her words even. I knew something was off with her there.

In other games we've played with her as a civilian, she tends to be a little more loose in her thoughts and opinions. she makes posts that read scummy. she doesn't pay attention to what can be perceived as scummy, because she's town, so why would she? I think that post MP quotes is a classic example of misread Luna intentions. I understand what she was trying to get at. I don't see a scum Luna edging for that angle.

if i'm wrong, i'm gonna look so stupid. but it's a risk i'm willing to take.

(Gonna assume i'm talking to Dunya, just because you're using more words than i ever saw T.H do in Courage )

If you understand what she could be getting at, i'm interested in what you think, but it's probably better if we let Luna explain her thoughts on it before you say anything about that.

My view on how she played in Courage was that she had a bit of a slow start d1, but towards the end of d1, she became one of the more clear towns in the game with her posting, and just posted townier as the game went on. So i wouldn't call Luna one of the people who's more sketchy as town than scum. Her solving was just so laid bare and easy to read as town there imo.

Not saying that i think she's scum here because i'm not seeing that here yet since it's early still, but just saying that i wouldn't see Luna as a sketchy town player based on that game.

Clearly my meta-base is very thin since it only contains 1 game though

most obvious towns* is what i meant to write in my last post

2 Dogs, what do you mean by Luna looking sketchy as town? Do you think she looks less sketchy when scum? Or was this a specific way of sketchy you think she generally only looks when town?

Also, i think she was one of the most obvious and least sketchy people in all of the Courage game. It's only 1 game but still

M Plus 1 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 10, 2018 3:27 pm

Fratyo wrote: ↑Tue Jul 10, 2018 2:02 pm Feel good about: 2 Stupid Dogs

Feel not so good about: DrSloogy

Explain.

i'll try to recall what i thought at the time.

Thought 2 dogs tone was ok when they called us (me) out in their post that voted us. Also liked them asking DrSlo why they followed with their vote onto us instead of just leaving them be.

Didn't like the stale phrasing of DrSlo's vote as much. Also didn't love their comment about not hammering me. Not because it wasn't mechanically true, but it felt like they were kinda redirecting the focus from their vote to something else everyone would agree with, to avoid backlash.

Obviously it weren't strong reads

[mention]M Plus 1[/mention]

M Plus 1 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 11, 2018 1:02 pm

Lunatella wrote: ↑Wed Jul 11, 2018 11:39 am

M Plus 1 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 10, 2018 3:40 pm - Rimworld Boyz
I'm vibing with Kyle. Kyle is one of the most tonally-centric players I've ever met in that he reads incredibly organically when he's town and not when he's scum. Specifically if I read at least half of the posts in Kyle's ISO and can hear Kyle thinking out loud in a Vocaroo type setting, that means he's almost certainly town. Scum!Kyle can't quite replicate the way town!Kyle thinks.

Subject to change. Other input desired.

Rimworld Boyz wrote: ↑Tue Jul 10, 2018 3:44 pm i have a problem with that? up until now neither of us have posted anything that would require genuine-ness or the faking there-of. which posts seemed particularly genuine to you?

M Plus 1

For Rimworld Boyz to question M Plus 1's read of their genuineness really makes them look town. If they were scum they would have just rolled with it. Extra cred looks good. But what does this say about M Plus 1?

What do you think it says about me?

I don’t like the open-ended question at all.

[VOTE: lunatella] aubergine

lol...

now people will think i just sheeped this. i actually just read this. villapoint for mindmeld

oh, lunatella has 2 votes. didn't even know. this head approves

Lunatella wrote: ↑Wed Jul 11, 2018 11:39 am

M Plus 1 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 10, 2018 3:40 pm - Rimworld Boyz
I'm vibing with Kyle. Kyle is one of the most tonally-centric players I've ever met in that he reads incredibly organically when he's town and not when he's scum. Specifically if I read at least half of the posts in Kyle's ISO and can hear Kyle thinking out loud in a Vocaroo type setting, that means he's almost certainly town. Scum!Kyle can't quite replicate the way town!Kyle thinks.

Subject to change. Other input desired.

Rimworld Boyz wrote: ↑Tue Jul 10, 2018 3:44 pm i have a problem with that? up until now neither of us have posted anything that would require genuine-ness or the faking there-of. which posts seemed particularly genuine to you?

M Plus 1

For Rimworld Boyz to question M Plus 1's read of their genuineness really makes them look town. If they were scum they would have just rolled with it. Extra cred looks good. But what does this say about M Plus 1?

Nothing? This part seems like it might've been added on just to sound thoughtful. How would Rimworldz looking town ever mean something for M1's alignment?

Lunatella wrote: ↑Wed Jul 11, 2018 10:34 am

DrSloogy wrote: ↑Wed Jul 11, 2018 10:29 am We have come to the conclusion that you are bad. It's the only reasonable explanation.

You are wrong, and therefore you are probably bad.

awkward post

ColinIsSpeed wrote: ↑Wed Jul 11, 2018 9:29 am Kyle has said that his town meta is crafted purposely to be hard to read for when he’s scum so I don’t necessarily buy MP’s fancy talk here — for example he looks like U-Pick scum Kyle to me as much as he does Courage town Kyle — but I think him asking MP such pointed questions is a pretty good sign. I’m not sure that scum Kyle would go in against someone townreading him, I generally think scum wouldn’t, but I’ll have to check U-Pick.

towny post

ColinIsSpeed wrote: ↑Tue Jul 10, 2018 8:04 pm

Fratyo wrote: ↑Tue Jul 10, 2018 2:53 pm [VOTE: colinisspeed] aubergine hi frend

After that nonsense in Courage Fractalis neither a friend of Colin nor Speed ... he’s a scary mofo

Drsloogy*

If anything i’d rather put money down on sloppy being more town that 2 dumb mutts

2 Stupid Dogs wrote: ↑Wed Jul 11, 2018 11:37 am

Fratyo wrote: ↑Wed Jul 11, 2018 3:50 am We’re rolling on the gut train day one baby. Now where is my sensical counterpart at?

but you called drsloogy out for that

O rly?

Maybe I didn’t, maybe the other me did


I can’t seem to recall doing so

Rimworld Boyz wrote: ↑Wed Jul 11, 2018 2:53 am don't click that

TOO LATE

M Plus 1 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 11, 2018 1:54 am I don't really feel like my reads have changed from earlier, which is unfortunate.

It's unlike both Golden and Marmot to be missing. Please come play.

I want to see more of them and mac/daisy too. Flarequin makes me along with colinchuck. We’re rolling on the gut train day one baby. Now where is my sensical counterpart at?

[VOTE: colinisspeed] aubergine hi frend

Wait s minute, that hunch won’t make sense because half of that is TH and TH is a silly person.

*ahem* I cannot judge my fellow but if anything I have the exact opposite opinion, being that voting for my other head aka myself is silly and unproductive.

DrSloogy wrote: ↑Tue Jul 10, 2018 2:44 pm

Fratyo wrote: ↑Tue Jul 10, 2018 2:02 pm Feel good about: 2 Stupid Dogs

Feel not so good about: DrSloogy

The doctor recommends you explain yourself.

tHe DoCtoR WecOmEndS eXplaINiN uRSelF

Glad you got that out of your systems, terrible play on words and all.


Now don’t take this the wrong way, or personal, or offensive, or legitimate, or fake, but I’m gonna huck that seasoning off your head, Wilgy.

it doesn’t feel right, yknow man? couldn’t agree more

Feels like someone is whispering in my ear, except it’s more so shouting.

Or am I the one shouting?

Feel good about: 2 Stupid Dogs

Feel not so good about: DrSloogy

ColinIsSpeed wrote: ↑Tue Jul 10, 2018 10:49 am You know how when someone farts and then they're awkwardly silent afterward hoping that nobody heard it but everyone did and then the smell hits you but they don't react or mention the smell and their brain is like "I am a statue nobody can even tell I'm alive and only something organic could have farted anyway" but everyone knows who it is because it's the only person not laughing about that cloud of butt stank juice?

So there. DrSloogy is the source of the stinky.

sounds like someone has too much info about the intricate feelings about farting to be town here

ColinIsSpeed wrote: ↑Tue Jul 10, 2018 9:25 am

Galactic Mac wrote: ↑Tue Jul 10, 2018 9:05 am Alright y'all. We ain't here to fuck spiders.

What are we here to, uh, do?

kill the farting people appearently

Now what in tarnation did I miss?

This might work out most fortune given I have an off schedule for playing

Quinmii is the only one who could rival me on schedules I believe

Rimworld Boyz wrote: ↑Mon Jul 09, 2018 8:21 pm i'm here but which one am i huehuehue

only one of you would think that's funny. i won't tell anyone though

Lunatella wrote: ↑Mon Jul 09, 2018 7:44 pm I was about to ask why you both lied in the poll but then I realized since it's in past tense at the time you vote it's actually... true. Jay why you gotta mess with my head like this

Well well well..

Then my question to you is: Why didn't you swap to "no" when you realized your wrongdoing?

But swapping would be lying because at that point you'd already voted and... I see

Yo