The Syndicate

Saito

Would it be considered to rude to say I told you so?

I would like to thanks Roxy and Splint for the game it was really fun I had a great time. Wasn't prepared to play someone's sock, but I don't think I did that bad with it.

Saito

Dom 2 wrote: Also, on a possibly unrelated note, nijuukyugou knows and works with Epignosis in real life, so that makes you a good option for a recruit. :P

Well nijuukyugo (and everyone who voted for me) won't be invited to my mafia themed birthday party next year. If I can remember their names ya know what old age does to our brain. (The decreased skill in grammar and spelling alone proves my theory about myself) :P

linki:

Saito

Epignosis 2 wrote:"Who is as fucked up as the Hostess?"

Does my lynch vote get multiplied by 5 if I send in the right answer to the above question?

Also Cookie 2 is the only player still alive that I like

:P

Saito

"Who is as fucked up as the Hostess?"

Does my lynch vote get multiplied by 5 if I send in the right answer to the above question?

Also Cookie 2 is the only player still alive that I like

:P

Saito

Well it comes to this, the final end game. I've made my points and gave my reasoning.

First this @Lipsticklacey 2 I'm sorry that I said you were acting foolish I was wrong you're quite the genius to have fooled at least one player and most of us for the entire game.
@Cookie/Dom Will you trust me, or will you be fooled by lipsticklacey, I might be making little to no sense, that is simply I'm desperate. I'm a desperate civilian facing a cunning baddie. I fell for his trap yesterday with my vote against Cobalt 2. Lipstick then attempted to kill CObalt 2 which would have been framed on me as I voted against Cobalt. The kill failed though which hardly matters since the attempted kill was framed on me.
Lipstick thinks he has won lets show him he hasn't and that we've caught onto his game/

Heed my warning, this will be the final phase the last chance for the civilians to turn this game and still win. If you mislynch me today you've all lost. But I trust that you two will look at my posts see that they are messy, but are true and follow me with our lynch on Lipstick. Even that might not be enough, but it is the only shot we have of winning.

Saito

@Cookie yes what I meant is lynch Lipstick this phase they will flip bad.

However, even if they don't flip bad the civs will still win if you do it reverse you most likely won't

Saito

a* Also yes please discuss it with Cookie don't rush a vote either way.

Saito

Look I honestly wouldn't usually bother this hard at the very end if I was mafia. The chances of me begin lynched today is at least 80% the best will be around 50% IF I get both you (Dom) and Cookie on board with my lynch, I'm trying this hard since I've seen through Lipsticklacey and I want to be alive and win to prove that I was right to prove I can outfox the fox.

linki: I disagree in fact since you all know that it wouldn't make sense for her to pick me. If LAcey is right then lynch me next phase after we lynch them. Also being right about Rico doesn't mean much he was mafia and qa threat to them.

Saito

As I said I've had a minor ping about lipstick for awhile I just wasn't sure this is the only time we can do this the three of us have to vote for Lipstick today and this will lead us to victory.

Saito

yes they as in Cookie got an extra power from something. Since this wasn't a rezze it was an avoidance and I don't think any roles can do that. If they could why wait no it must have been an awarded ability.

linki: Not a team but I think there was something between them and that they have confirmed each other as civs, and with the hint cookie dropped I can only think she saved Cobalt 2.

Saito

Cookie 2 saying this in response to myself and Lipstick

"There could be other possibilities

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So this leads me to think they got something in the triva and used it on Cobalt 2.

Saito

Which means it must be Lipstick or me and as I said if it was me I would never have gone against Lipstick and Cobalt especially since Lipstick gave me a reason in his thread to vote for rico I would be a foolish baddie to not go with the rico vote. Would I have made it this far just to slip up like that? No Lipstick is the last baddie and he even refused to answer my points about why why would I do that.

Saito

Cookie 2 wrote:
Lipsticklacey 2 wrote:
Epignosis 2 wrote:Okay this means someone who was afk choice not to kill someone agreed? I will say thisagain read my posts my posting style/ votes haven't changed. Lynching me will be a waste.

Also just curios why on the front page does it say Cobalt 2 is dead?

What do we think about Cookie she self voted, but trust Cobalt 2.
Rico said Cobalt 2 was recrutiee yet he then flipped mafia.
Dom saved his vote until very near the end.
While Cobalt/Lip voted early two phases ago each on a different person yet voted the same early today.
Lol, you saw the first post but want to sell us on believing the kill just wasn't sent in?

No, it means you, the killer, had your target switched with someone who didn't send one in, meaning there was no one to be killed, and that you tried to kill Cobalt 2.
There could be other possibilities

Last lynch I self voted becasue I was kinda over the constant push in my direction and i wanted to push the envelope and force the point; put your money where your mouth is. Subsequent developements have given mew pause, and I can hold off for the time being. I am 90% positive i was wrong about Dom 2, so i want to hear what he thinks about all of this.

There is more than one possibility, but yeah, he was expecting someone to be dead.

Saito

That is my assumption from Cookies post

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Well I have given my defense I've said why I think Lipstick is the last baddie.

Cookie Dom I'm asking you no begging you just one time take this leap of faith and vote for Lipstick with me. IF and this is an if since it isn't true i was the recruit it would go like this 5 people 1 mislynch 1 night kill there would be three people left me and two others you could just lynch me then. BUT believe me when I say this if you lynch me today and when I flip civilian you'd have all lost.

This sounds morbid but this is the final countdown all I ask is one phase two votes which might save me. Vote for lipstick if he flips he will flip as the recruiter. I know this for a fact. Cookie saved Cobalt 2 both who are civs. Dom isn't able to be because of Bass this leaves Myself and Lipstick you all have more to loose if you vote against me, in fact you will loose this game. Though if you just vote with me we could still win this. I'm asking for your trust and just one phase. If lipsticks flip clean you will still win but if I flip clean you won't. Unless I get rezzed after flipping clean. Which I doubt will happen.
So please trust me I'm Epi when have I ever led you wrong
except for when I'm drunk but I'm sober since it is passed my bedtime us old folks need to turn in early after all

Saito

thought*

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Okay Dom I though you had me at the top of your list for who you wanted to lynch.

Saito

If you don't think I'm bad then why lynhc me? I encourage you to look over my case and reads of Lipsticklacey.

Saito

Okay what are your current thoughts on the game?

Saito

Dom 2 wrote:I have to vote. I went with llama. I trust what Ricochet has brought forth on the matter.

Dom 2 wrote:Voted Ricochet 2. Sorry I haven't been around much.

I'm mostly caught up, and he seems like the best choice to me.

That was a quick switch by Dom thoughts on it?He went from voting for Llama confirmed civ because he trusted Rico to voting for him the next phase. Thoughts on this?

Saito

Lipsticklace once again you vote super early and have yet to answer any of my points respond to any of my posts nothing.

Saito

fingersplints wrote:
Epignosis 2 wrote:Also just curios why on the front page does it say Cobalt 2 is dead?
our mistake. sorry it's been fixed.

Okay thanks, will talking about what he was count as info dumping or no?

Saito

Go ahead don't again actually answer any of my points, and no I still don't understand you say I saw the first post what first post? All that I know is from when I posted it was the day, there was a kill on the frontpage and yet nothing in the thread. SO what else was I to think and again if my kill was interrupted, why would I have even mentioned it.

You have an attitude and are know refusing to actually talk or address anything, if you aren't scum then your acting like a fool.

Saito

Lipsticklacey 2 what do you mean by I saw the first post?

Saito

In fact I think your the last ninja and you didn't send in a kill so you could blame me for not sending one in.

This is why I voted with Rico

Epignosis 2 wrote:
Lipsticklacey 2 wrote:See, this is why you should wait.

While you have a history of game-losing resses; I think; some of us do have things under control. Maybe I was trying to keep you safe at night with suspicion. Or I really suspect you but get thrown off by better targets. Which is happening again. But as usual, it's not to join a bandwagon, it's because there's someone else to lynch, who I put the first vote on.

I am voting for Ricochet 2. He's been spinning for days, and I haven't trusted it. Now we have the numbers to handle it. Epi 2, he wants to vote for you, so help us out by retaliatory voting him. Cobalt 2, we can figure out who is next if we haven't won after he is gone, but help me get rid of him for a start. Dom 2, you still playing? cause that would be helpful as well.
I think your mafia or if there is a recruiter team your on it. I'm thinking and I could be totally wrong that you and Cobalt are on the same team. Yesterday you voted quite early for Sig 2 and he voted for Llama 2 turns out they were both civs your know both together voting for rico why are you doing this? You don't think he could be bad. I had doubts for awhile, but nothing to really back it up with. I will need to think it over but I think I will be voting for Cobalt 2. Also this so help us out, it could just be wording I've made plenty of such mistakes but a combination of that and saying I should vote for him just for retaliation? So because he said he might lynch me I should vote for him and help you out? Then notice the second portion you say to Cobalt 2

"we can figure out who is next if we haven't won after he is gone" this also doesn't sound like something a civ would say. Dom read this post over it reeks of scum, they are know more confident so aren't as stealthy as before. Plus Rico being the only one to consider I might be bad is a plus for me, I don't know if he is civilian but I don't think he is mafia. Dom if you aren't mafia trust me look over Lip's post that I quoted and vote with me for Cobalt. When Cobalt flips mafia we can lynch Lip next phase.

Notice that Lip NEVER answered any off the points I brought up, instead just accused me with nothing to back it up, only used terms such as backpedaling and such.

Another opportunity she doesn't present a case or argue against my points

Epignosis 2 wrote:Well Dom lets hope I'm wrong if not then the civs loose.

@Lipsticklacey 2 I think your mafia if so when Rico flips civ I will be coming after you tomorrow and you have yet to say why you think I'm mafia when you have had the most suspicious reasoning this phase. Your reason for why I should vote Rico alone was scummy.

My suspicions of Lipsticklacey isn't competently unfounded or just made up. Here on day 8 I voiced doubt about her

Epignosis 2 wrote:@Lipsticklacey 2 are you saying Boo was a mafia or that they weren't? I'm quite confused with your post. The people who voted for Cookie are seen as suspicious to you, but you don't think boo was mafia since your voting for Golden? Why would anyone need to distance themselves from Cookie she was hardly on the scum radar and even if she was none of the players were that close to her? If that was there plan it would have made more sense to just vote boo who might I say you lead the lynch on which was quite easy for baddies to jump on.

It seems like your know trying to set up another lynch for tomorrow. Which would either be Cookie or Myself. I'm watching you and I also remember that Synonyms a confirmed civ thought you were mafia after you bandwagoned on him for quite awhile. I will also point out I have witnessed Synonyms 2 who is easy to rile up and get lynched as his playstyle is so dirty. Which is what you seemed to be doing this game. Maybe you are a mafia member? I will need to reread your posts and see what I see

This wasn't out of the blue I wasn't sure about her for awhile. Lipsticklacey 2 on the other hand didn't focus on me until I voiced doubt for her and didn't follow what she wanted me to.

Linki: Okay could you read over my points about Lipsticklacey 2?

Saito

Lipsticklacey 2 wrote:
Epignosis 2 wrote:Okay this means someone who was afk choice not to kill someone agreed? I will say thisagain read my posts my posting style/ votes haven't changed. Lynching me will be a waste.

Also just curios why on the front page does it say Cobalt 2 is dead?

What do we think about Cookie she self voted, but trust Cobalt 2.
Rico said Cobalt 2 was recrutiee yet he then flipped mafia.
Dom saved his vote until very near the end.
While Cobalt/Lip voted early two phases ago each on a different person yet voted the same early today.
Lol, you saw the first post but want to sell us on believing the kill just wasn't sent in?

No, it means you, the killer, had your target switched with someone who didn't send one in, meaning there was no one to be killed, and that you tried to kill Cobalt 2.

First post please explain, what do you mean my target was switched?

Saito

Okay this means someone who was afk choice not to kill someone agreed? I will say thisagain read my posts my posting style/ votes haven't changed. Lynching me will be a waste.

Also just curios why on the front page does it say Cobalt 2 is dead?

What do we think about Cookie she self voted, but trust Cobalt 2.
Rico said Cobalt 2 was recrutiee yet he then flipped mafia.
Dom saved his vote until very near the end.
While Cobalt/Lip voted early two phases ago each on a different person yet voted the same early today.

Saito

Nobody died last night then?

Saito

There again you don't answer my point, why I found your wording strange. Instead you simply brush it off, this isn't a civilian tactic, a civ wouldn't ignore the chance that it could be someone else unless your the detective with a red check you can't be sure either way. My tone hasn't changed all game, and as I said voting against your prompting put a bulls eye on my head, the outcome would have been negative anyway you look at it unless if I was sure Cobalt was bad. But reading your follow up I don't think Cobalt is the only ninja left maybe he isn't one no I think you are.

Saito

I am defending myself not backpedaling, are you going to answer my points either in my defense or why I voted with Rico, my suspicions against your case?
You are simply accusing me of backpedaling not answering any of my points.

@Cookie Dom do either of you think Lip is 3P? Frankly I don't trust anyone left but lookin at Cookies post she was suspicious of Lip as well.

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Ricochet 2 wrote:Well, ok. Good luck. It's not my fault if you lose. You should have lynched epi first, then you would know.

Well first off I won't be backpedaling I didn't like the argument you presented, I didn't like how you tried to play on my emotions saying he would vote for me so I'm voting for him. I stand by my vote and don't regret it.

Also lets say for one second I'm on this other team why would I vote with the suspected mafia when I wasn't on the radar? I could have followed your reasoning and just said "yeah I will vote for Rico since he wants me lynched" but I didn't preserving Rico would have done nothing for me. I would have had to kill him anyway and he could have killed me it makes no sense. If your so set on trusting Cobalt 2 then look at Dom/Cookie I think if anyone Cookie is most likely to be the last ninja, she completely avoided today's drama by self voting.

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Well Dom lets hope I'm wrong if not then the civs loose.

@Lipsticklacey 2 I think your mafia if so when Rico flips civ I will be coming after you tomorrow and you have yet to say why you think I'm mafia when you have had the most suspicious reasoning this phase. Your reason for why I should vote Rico alone was scummy.

Saito

If you present a case against me I will answer your point, I was convinced that you were a civilian until your quick voting yesterday, and how you and cobalt are both voting the same way and so quickly this phase. I laid out my case and I'm confident that I'm right.

Saito

Lipsticklacey 2 wrote:See, this is why you should wait.

While you have a history of game-losing resses; I think; some of us do have things under control. Maybe I was trying to keep you safe at night with suspicion. Or I really suspect you but get thrown off by better targets. Which is happening again. But as usual, it's not to join a bandwagon, it's because there's someone else to lynch, who I put the first vote on.

I am voting for Ricochet 2. He's been spinning for days, and I haven't trusted it. Now we have the numbers to handle it. Epi 2, he wants to vote for you, so help us out by retaliatory voting him. Cobalt 2, we can figure out who is next if we haven't won after he is gone, but help me get rid of him for a start. Dom 2, you still playing? cause that would be helpful as well.

I think your mafia or if there is a recruiter team your on it. I'm thinking and I could be totally wrong that you and Cobalt are on the same team. Yesterday you voted quite early for Sig 2 and he voted for Llama 2 turns out they were both civs your know both together voting for rico why are you doing this? You don't think he could be bad. I had doubts for awhile, but nothing to really back it up with. I will need to think it over but I think I will be voting for Cobalt 2. Also this so help us out, it could just be wording I've made plenty of such mistakes but a combination of that and saying I should vote for him just for retaliation? So because he said he might lynch me I should vote for him and help you out? Then notice the second portion you say to Cobalt 2

"we can figure out who is next if we haven't won after he is gone" this also doesn't sound like something a civ would say. Dom read this post over it reeks of scum, they are know more confident so aren't as stealthy as before. Plus Rico being the only one to consider I might be bad is a plus for me, I don't know if he is civilian but I don't think he is mafia. Dom if you aren't mafia trust me look over Lip's post that I quoted and vote with me for Cobalt. When Cobalt flips mafia we can lynch Lip next phase.

Saito

@Hostess is Cookie's 2 role claiming/info dumping or would this not count.

Cookie what are you saying in this post please explain.Or are you saying Lip 2 is the last baddie if sowhy vote for yourself?

Saito

Well never mind then I guess Sig 2 wasn't mafia. I will need to reread some stuff but right know I'm at a loss of who could be mafia.

Saito

I must say I thought Llama could have been responsible for the other night kills, however his role as the blocker makes sense. I think Bass was killed by the mafia and not by his ability, I believe Llama 2 had been blocking Sig 2 this could have happened every other night which could explain some of the missing mafia kills. I will be voting for Sig 2. He used Bass death to lynch Llama I don't doubt he is mafia.

Saito

Things are moving very quickly this phase, I will be voting for Sig 2 I already gave some reasons but was still on the fence about it, however I believe a Sig 2 lynch would be better today.

Saito

Lipsticklacey 2 wrote:
Epignosis 2 wrote:
Lipsticklacey 2 wrote:Epignosis 2, are you still with us? Any thoughts to share?
I'm here finally, I will need to look things over we had some very early votes this phase which is strange.

@Lipsticklacey 2 could you tell me why your voting for Sig 2 or why should I vote for him?

Bass 2 do we know what his role did? am I correct in saying his role lets him hide behind civilians, and when he hides behind a mafia member he will die? This means we might not have even had a kill last night and he might have hid behind someone and died or he was just killed. His top two were Llama and Sig, what I don't understand then why was there only one death? Bass 2 death wouldn't have counted for the mafia's kill right? This being night 8 was the night that the mafia has been killed in.
If Bass hid behind a SK would he still be killed or no?

I don't like this post from Sig 2, he also very quickly jumps on Llama 2 this could be becasue he thought he found something or because he is scum and trying to set up a lynch. Thoughts on this?

Sig 2 wrote:Hey I'm here. I've been on holidays for the last week but kept up as best I could. My tunneling on LC2 should be enough to show my civvie Ness I would think, but either way I should start contributing more once I've settled in tomorrow. For now I need to rest my poor neck.
What Bass has said about Llama is damning, however I'm not sure, Llama gives a good counter and I started to feel off about Sig awhile ago. Sig also jumped on Llama very quickly.

What I need to know is this, if Bass hid behind a Serial Killer/Independent would he die or is that only if he hides behind mafia? IF he would die no matter who he hides behind if they aren't civilian then I have a theory.

Cookie why are you voting for Dom?

I will most likely be voting for either Sig or Llama I'm just not sure which yet.
Based on what FS has said, Bass 2 would have died if there target was any alignment other than civilian, including independents/a SKer. Yes, you have what Bass 2's role did correct.

I voted for Sig 2 because he spread misinformation, and I think it was an attempt to get an early bandwagon on llama 2.

Okay thanks this help, I still have about 16 hours to make up my mind so I'm going to think about it, right know I'm leaning for a Sig lynch over Llama, I think however sig flips assuming he is lynched we should consider a Llama lynch.

Saito

Lipsticklacey 2 wrote:Epignosis 2, are you still with us? Any thoughts to share?

I'm here finally, I will need to look things over we had some very early votes this phase which is strange.

@Lipsticklacey 2 could you tell me why your voting for Sig 2 or why should I vote for him?

Bass 2 do we know what his role did? am I correct in saying his role lets him hide behind civilians, and when he hides behind a mafia member he will die? This means we might not have even had a kill last night and he might have hid behind someone and died or he was just killed. His top two were Llama and Sig, what I don't understand then why was there only one death? Bass 2 death wouldn't have counted for the mafia's kill right? This being night 8 was the night that the mafia has been killed in.
If Bass hid behind a SK would he still be killed or no?

I don't like this post from Sig 2, he also very quickly jumps on Llama 2 this could be becasue he thought he found something or because he is scum and trying to set up a lynch. Thoughts on this?

Sig 2 wrote:Hey I'm here. I've been on holidays for the last week but kept up as best I could. My tunneling on LC2 should be enough to show my civvie Ness I would think, but either way I should start contributing more once I've settled in tomorrow. For now I need to rest my poor neck.

What Bass has said about Llama is damning, however I'm not sure, Llama gives a good counter and I started to feel off about Sig awhile ago. Sig also jumped on Llama very quickly.

What I need to know is this, if Bass hid behind a Serial Killer/Independent would he die or is that only if he hides behind mafia? IF he would die no matter who he hides behind if they aren't civilian then I have a theory.

Cookie why are you voting for Dom?

I will most likely be voting for either Sig or Llama I'm just not sure which yet.

Saito

The write up was very good, got all excited we won for a second though. I plan to take a closer looks at Bass, Sig, and Cobalt tomorrow. I have a feeling one of the people who from the beginning defended Synonyms over Long Con could be a mafia member/3rd party?

It would make sense to split up also if Cobalt 2 was mafia it wouldn't be playing in sock to not target Long Con this also kept them from begin under suspicion for quite awhile.

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Metalmarsh 2 wrote:hi

Hello

Saito

Okay Lipsticklacey 2 thanks for answering, depending on the night actions I would be fine with voting for cookie 2 assuming nothing major happens. Looking at last nights actions (6) then also at 2 and 4 it goes Golden (potential mafia) Timmer (civvie ninja/Vigilante) and SVS (mafia) following this pattern tonight's NK is either the third party or second mafia team who is mainly hunting mafia.

Looking at the mafia on nights 1,3,5,7 we have this breakdown Night 1 no kill, Night 3 JaggedJimmyJay 2 (civilian) night 5 (no kill again?) If this is the case our third party/mafia 2 is much more active then our mafia team. They missed two of their kills and failed to enter another before day came. This leads me to think maybe Turnip Head 2 was responsible for the kills? He was inactive and replaced Night 3, Night 3 was the only night the mafia had a kill. They were then modkilled day 6. The ability to kill is then passed down to another player they take advantage of this and end the day early to be able to use this power.

Know this is just a little theory and doesn't matter to much, but it does explain the lack of mafia kills with the timing of the replaced Turnip Head.

linki: I will keep eyeing you but am satisfied with your answers for the time.

Saito

@Lipsticklacey 2 are you saying Boo was a mafia or that they weren't? I'm quite confused with your post. The people who voted for Cookie are seen as suspicious to you, but you don't think boo was mafia since your voting for Golden? Why would anyone need to distance themselves from Cookie she was hardly on the scum radar and even if she was none of the players were that close to her? If that was there plan it would have made more sense to just vote boo who might I say you lead the lynch on which was quite easy for baddies to jump on.

It seems like your know trying to set up another lynch for tomorrow. Which would either be Cookie or Myself. I'm watching you and I also remember that Synonyms a confirmed civ thought you were mafia after you bandwagoned on him for quite awhile. I will also point out I have witnessed Synonyms 2 who is easy to rile up and get lynched as his playstyle is so dirty. Which is what you seemed to be doing this game. Maybe you are a mafia member? I will need to reread your posts and see what I see

Saito

We've got at least 3 mafia members dead. Three people mod killed, and then the Ninja recruiter (third party team/second mafia team) No from the looks of it we are still doing good. What I think your doing is fear mongering in an attempt to get the other players to vote elsewhere.

Also call me crazy, but if you saw Rey targeted you night 5 why didn't you lynch him Day 6 instead waiting until the very beginning of Day 7? In fact you never mentioned Rey once on Day 6 or Night 6 and being vindictive for about 72 hours seems like a long time.

Saito

Golden was the only one to get in a lynch vote then the day suddenly ends? This alone is damning. I believe the mafia knowing Golden might get lynched decided to us their ability to skip a day phase get a civilian lynched and then kill another civilian in the night phase. This along with the argument against Golden leads me to think we should lynch Golden today.

Saito

This was obviously a mafia ability, it seems they are trying to hold off the inevitably. I am thinking maybe on even nights we have a Third party killer and odd is when the mafia kills.

Saito

SVS 2 wrote:The Scotty2 reveal is extra nice, it affects my perspective of a couple people for their treatment of her last day.

How so?

@Bass 2 from my understanding the seemer will appear as a player of their choice when lynched or killed?

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Well Reywas 2 being satisfied with my response really took the wind out of my sails of martyrdom, but what can you do?

Looking over everything again I agree with Reywas the Cookie comment, also if we believe Black Rock 2 was innocent she made a case against Cookie. Today I would rather lynch Cookie 2 then Boo 2, for that reason I will be voting for Cookie.

Scotty 2 you could have just posted your thoughts and ignored the drama this seems like a rather weak reason for not posting.

Saito

Llama 2 wrote:
Bass 2 wrote:Would anyone dispute my knack for making friends? Golden 2, you're probably the only person who has an inkling of who I actually am, what say you?
I know who you are! You are Bass2!

I am voting for SVS. I haven't heard from her in a while and I think I know why.

Something tells me mafia are having a field day letting this boo thing permeate the thread. I do not think boo is bad or should be voted for. But I have a strange inkling that SVS is having a great time not having to be involved.

Interesting point about SVS, besides the lack of posting do you have any other reasons to be suspicious of them?

linki: I did change my position on players that is true, but I have followed through with most of my reads with lynch votes.
@Llama 2 maybe that is why we have a few inactive players, one of them is in the hospital for a grammatical induced stroke?

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