The Syndicate

Perhaps I said something to piss them off? Not sure what I have said that someone else did not say as well (other than saying Ameerah was shady, and tbh, I think I was not the only one to say that).

All I can say is that they somehow redirected the consensus hanging to me. They wanted tiny me to go bye bye is all I know for sure.

*9*

Miyuki Lovelymoth wrote:I believe you.

1

Thank You

Miyuki Lovelymoth wrote:After reading through Carmen's posts, particularly her night posts, I find myself hesitant to vote her.

I don't understand why she seemed to gloss over surviving her fate though. An innocent should proclaim her innocence. Vote shenanigans could easily have been the cause, a double win for the evil group. Destroy Bac, and let Carmen suffer the consequences.

Is she an innocent, distracted by RL, or a not so pure, also distracted by RL..... those night posts

(3)

I thought about this today, in the accounting department of the Pixie Dust factory (just becasue I'm Rajah doesn't mean I don't have to feed the l'il Pixies) and I do think it is rather obvious, Japanify me, kill me, and let a pawn take the blame.

So I will take your advice & reread her night posts.

Mainchin Ironbeast wrote:

Etain Royalskull wrote:

Mainchin Ironbeast wrote:Hard to believe the mafia would waste a lynch switch just to frame Carmen. What purpose does it serve? She was going to be lynched anyway and if CIv why would they care?

3

Wait, now I'm a tad more confused than before. Can't the Rumple team easily switch lynches if they are close?

3. (I remembered!!!)

Yes but why wouyld they if Carmen is civ?

4

A plethora of reasons, Mainchin. If we are distracted pointing the blame at Carmen, we are not noticing them. They also may think she is one of the SKs or the secret team. Maybe the secret team is the ones who did this atrocious act. I have seen a grouping of no-goodniks coast to victory on this very tactic. Clever no-goodniks have endless feats of legerdemain up their sleeves.

Need to eat and peruse the chain of posts at my leisure

*8*

Rather than just trying to even get you people to believe me, which experience tells me is a waste of time, I think it would profit me better to read up on whom I may have threatened. So that is my plan for the next several days Time for repose


*7*

Queran Gloomsoul wrote:Bac, I have two questions for you:

First question: Can you elaborate on your thoughts about the secret roles that you posted while you were in Anime Mode? I remember thinking Gobnait's uncannily accurate deciphering of your japanese posts regarding the secret roles was odd.

Second Question: Do you have any thoughts on my "catch" regarding Carmen's saying she would read back on Mainchin and then actually never posting anything about her thoughts on mainchin?


3.

I posted the correct translation thingy, why everyone continued to use Google is a mystery to me.

There are 7 secret archtypes. right? One has already been revealed, a nice one, a Shoemaker. There are 6 more. I feel that at least some of them are a hidden confederacy of maliciousness. With one revealed, the Shoemaker, and perhaps one more friendly person, that leaves 5 more. Perhaps four or five are an ill natured Gang or Four (or Five), and an independant person (or not).

My point it that it is naive to think that what is on the first page is all we have to deal with. I think not. I may or may not have reason specifically to think so, but really, any person who is paying attention might think so regardless of outside knowledge.

Second, I saw something in one of Mainchins posts that led me to believe he may be a more fair person than he may appear at first glance. Certainly, though, I have no reason to think so of Carmen. Zero, really. I think she tried to assassinate me, tbh.

*6*

Dierdre, we publish together: this chart reminds me, I chose Ameerah in our last election as I feel she has been slippery and vague. My vote would do naught to spread the poll as the Nasty Spinning Guy is unlikley to have chosen a word in the language of the Rising Sun. She mainly seems to be flinging wet dirt with no real basis.

Carmen Brightsun wrote:

Bac Wunderelin wrote:

Carmen Brightsun wrote:Yay, no night kill.

What think you of my claim that the stringing up that should have resulted in your death was redirected to me?

*2*

I don't understand what you're asking me.

I am asking you why it is that you did not pass away, and why it is that the lynch was redirected to me? Were you not the winner of the last diurnal periods polling? Did not the largest contingent choose to string up YOU? Yet here you are.

Is this query unexpected?

*5*

I won a prize, and i was told by the hosts that I no longer had it as I had been the person lynched.

As I said, there are three other people who can confirm (to themselves, not outing in the thread) that I was right about the other prizes. And no one can say they got the first prize. Becasue I got it. And it was a lynch save. You may find this far fetched, but truth it indeed is


*4*

I think I drew that conclusion by being told so by the hosts.

*3*

Carmen Brightsun wrote:Yay, no night kill.

What think you of my claim that the stringing up that should have resulted in your death was redirected to me?

*2*

Queran, I was forced to drink a very vile elixir of evil, and the result was such as you saw. It did keep me from being the target of those who inexplicably fear my tiny self directly, forcing them to resort to subterfuge. Perhaps this elixir may do the same for others

*1*

Pleased I am to be able to communicate in my usual way

Displeased I am at the fact that no one noticed that the nefarious no goodniks attempted to transfer their fate to me, the only Pixie in this game.

So I have learned that in order to transfer a lawful lynch, one does not need a ballot cast on them. Someone very apparently feels threatened by my teeny personage, overcompensation much??

I am glad I won a contest; there were 4 prizes. One was a Lynch Save, another a protection from all ills night two, one the reveal of a role (the Shoemaker was revealed, I believe) and the fourth the private revelation of one of the SKs secrets. I chose the Lynch Save, and a smart move that was!!! The three that chose amongst the other prizes know I tell true about the prize list.

But why me? Was it my suspicion of Ameerah? She who is blendy and fond of hyperbole? Not sure, I have to reread myself, lol, to see whom I may have offended. But offended some pernicious individual I did

人よりも実際に呪文をキャストして魔法の占いに興味を持っているか？博？

任意のルーン文字ここで日本だけのポーションの見たことがないし、スイッチング愚痴はリンチを加える

昇る太陽の栄光の帝国の言語を話すことは、もはや強制的に待つことができない、私は 1 つの地獄と言うこと:) がたくさん

の数字 の数字 の数字 の数字 の数字 の数字

それは素晴らしいではなかった

ない死のためのイェーイ

カールとの女の子にそこに行く私の賞

Ameerah Frolicstag wrote:I'm still wary of Mainchin, Laine, and Carmen and of the 3 I voted Carmen so as to not spread out the vote any further than it already is.

Linki: Ummmm, Bac voted for me and spread the vote out further?

それらの人々 のいずれかを疑うしないでください。
私はあなたを疑う, 限りでは、笑をスローすることができますあなたを信頼しません。

日本語の単語のようになって Rumplestiltskin を選んだ場合を除き、私はそれはそう私の投票を操作見つける

彼女はブレンディ狡猾なするいると思うアミーラのために投票するつもりので、メインあごことを会っていません。

アミーラの投票

Gobnait Gingeruite wrote:Thanks for that translation, Eurolyvn. Bac, are yoy trying to say you think there are 2 civvies, and indie, and four baddies among the secret roles? If you're allowed, quote this paragraph if I'm right.

If that's true we are in big, big trouble. 8 baddies and 2 sk's, with 10 surviving civs (or 9 and an indy) by my count. We shouldn't be able to swing a stick without hitting a baddie right now. Numbers like that may make it hard to get consensus without baddie influence. Maybe it would be useful to talk about who does seem trustworthy as well, instead of just who to lynch

Queran, interesting that you're unwilling to mention other pings beside me.

それは推測です。しかし、はい、それはなぜ私は何度も繰り返して言っています。2 つの悪役チームと思います。

私はまた 2 つの民間人と民間人は可能性があることを同意します。

Queran Gloomsoul wrote:Hey Bac, if it's ok with you I'm going to skip your posts for now. I'll wait till the English version hits shelves.

Roxy wrote:

Bac Wunderelin wrote:たぶん、あなたはこの 1 つを試みる可能性があります:

http://imtranslator.net/

ホストはこれを投稿できない可能性があります言っていないので、

プライベート メッセージにも言わない言っていません 場合はそれをやった私はしなかっただろうに

たぶん、あなたはこの 1 つを試みる可能性があります:

http://imtranslator.net/

ホストはこれを投稿できない可能性があります言っていないので、

Bac Wunderelin wrote:

Gobnait Gingeruite wrote:Wow, excellent work on the chart again, Shand! Very useful. I hadn't thought of your and Bac's voting records being so bad (no offense). And can Finnian explain why he's missed both polls? Obviously it hurts him more than us if he loses his NP for missing, but it's still curious

And I forgot to say in my last post: Laine, who do you find suspicious? I'm curious to hear what you think.

彼は 1 つだけポストいたとして 1 日目には彼に私を投票しました。ほとんど皆と同じ日に 2 つ私彼投票。どれも撮影:)

また、私はのみ 1 つの民間の投票。誰でも両方死んで罪のない人のための投票はありますか。

Gobnait Gingeruite wrote:Wow, excellent work on the chart again, Shand! Very useful. I hadn't thought of your and Bac's voting records being so bad (no offense). And can Finnian explain why he's missed both polls? Obviously it hurts him more than us if he loses his NP for missing, but it's still curious

And I forgot to say in my last post: Laine, who do you find suspicious? I'm curious to hear what you think.

彼は 1 つだけポストいたとして 1 日目には彼に私を投票しました。ほとんど皆と同じ日に 2 つ私彼投票。どれも撮影:)

Dierdre Wonderbird wrote:Hmm, so two deaths. Either the big bad wold found riding hood, or the "free thinkers" killed someone.

o あなたは殺人の 2 つのチームがあることできないと思うか。奇妙な？7 つの秘密の役割は、おそらく民間人と、インディや 2 つの達成、私は残りの部分の悪い人はずだと思います。

I felt pretty OK about Dilan, and only recall that Gaerwen was skeptical of Laine, iirc. So starting from scratch, going back to the posts of the dead is a good way to start. Go to Your Own Gods if you were Righteous Folk, and go to the Demons of Others if you were not.

I am going with Candy, the Glass Slipper will not fit on tiny pixie feet and is too slippery to live in. The Pea was what kept our princess up endless nights, and like all Pixies, I have a sweet tooth.

Instead of Monkey, imagine they are saying "Froggy"

I am so sorry Jorhan

This leads me to reconsider Laine, and to revise my opinion of the previous days lynch.

Bac Wunderelin wrote:

Dilan Bluemoss wrote:An observation from the Purple Sea Elves: The rush to sacrifice Caillic by those at the Peace Table came shortly after Jorhan received his second vote. It is therefore possible that Jorhan is one of our enemies, and that some or all of Queran. Bronwyn and Carmen (all of whom I found somewhat shady on Day 1) intervened to protect their fellow fiend. Far from certain, but a possibility nevertheless.

I am leaning this way as well, truth be told. I need to quaff a hearty beverage, and peruse todays eruditions. Let us not forget as well those seven mystery characters. There well could be an entire league of no-goodniks hidden in that number. So suppositions regarding what a nefarious individual may or may not do might also be affected by whether their character is known or not known.

I DID agree with this post where they both were mentioned. It is known that I think Jorhan is naughty.

But that is it. I also never mentioned or quoted Gobnait until after Querans post. I was totally uninvolved in this discussion until today, as I was busy Rajahing in order to feed the l'il pixies at home. That big 'ol post set off my alarm bells, and now you & Queran would have me as Gobnaits confererate. I know not if he has confederates, but if he does, I am not one of them.

Also note that I am once again reminding people in that post that there are roles of which we know naught, so prediciting behavior based on what is known is not always a good gameplan. Just sayin

Ameerah Frolicstag wrote:

Bac Wunderelin wrote:Can you give me an example of this buddying up? You & Queran saying it does not make it so.

Well, it was a feeling I got upon catching up on a lot of posts at once. Both you and Gobnait seem to be actively singling out Bronwyn and Queran while other posters are simply saying, "interesting theory!"

Now, I realize it could mean nothing, after all it also seems that Bronwyn and Queran are "buddying up" somewhat.

This could be nothing more than sharing an opinion on the going-ons in the game.

I mentioned it because it was something that I noticed during my read and thought it might be noteworthy.

All I know for sure is right now I trust no one.

I have never quoted or mentioned Bronwen to the best of my knowledge, nor did i do so with Queran until his ginormous post.

You obviously misnoticed

Also, does anyone not involved in Gobnait vs Queran think so?

Can you give me an example of this buddying up? You & Queran saying it does not make it so.

I am fairly small, so putting me under a microscope is rather an everyday occurence for me, it is the best way to see my many expressive expressions, so I have no fear of that.

You simply appeared to possibly be setting up a distraction to me, so I pointed that out. Sorry if that came across as rude, my first post on the subject was somewhat snide. Or perhaps pushiness is overcompensation for my size, it is not the first time I have been told this. When one is a tiny pixie in a room full of large powerful Trolls, Krackens etc., one must do what one must in order to be heard and to be held to be of Account in such a gathering.

I am not Rajah for nothing.

Crosspost: And you are reaching again. It is saying that even if he comes up civ, that clears no one, since I think there are possibly 2 naughty groups. Which I have been trying to remind folks about since the number discrepancy was first noted.

Queran Gloomsoul wrote:You seem awful defesive of ol' Gobby recently Bac.. Are you sure you're not redirecting a tad yourself?

My Good Kracken, no. I have not defended him once. I said that, like you, my thoughts on Gobnait depend on how Jorhan flips. That would make a weak defense, and indeed, could also be applied to yourself as well as Gobnait.

His theories, like yours, need further development based on how they play out. I am not sure what I would be redirecting from; as soon as the last lynch ended, I said I suspected Jorhan, I enumerated why, and that is the person who received my ballot. I have been the epitome of consistency. And my suspicions after this day will be built on today; one day at a time, as information is revealed.

So I am not sold on Gobnait (or yourself) being naughty or nice.

I am giving my opinion, nothing more. So do you think Jorhan is potentially nice? And tbh, I saw more people saying they think he may be a danger to us based on his behavior during the lynch. The behahvior of those surrounding him perhaps added to that aura, but I think most people are looking at him based on his own foibles.

And no problems brother I also calls them as I sees them, and if i see legerdemain and redirection and manipulation, I'm gonna point it out as well.

A postscript: I think that there may be an entire unknown group of Naughties out there due to the seven more players than characters. So even if Jorhan is determined to be benevolent, that would clear no one automatically. Should he turn up malicious, however, it would implicate some people to my way of thinking, very much so.

Queran Gloomsoul wrote:I wanted to give Gobnait the Gorgeous ample time to address my theory, and seeing her response has been just as underhanded as I anticipated it would be. She responded to a fraction of a fraction of a fraction of a sentence of my post, twisted it just for flavor, and shouted from the mountaintops more "no u" stuff.

Vote Gobnait

Linki: Alot of the Jorhan stuff seems to be connected to myself and connected to Bronwyn. Since I know myself and Bronwyn are not connected, and that I was not trying to save Jorhan when I made my vote, that diminishes alot of the validity of that suspicion in my eyes. As for Laine, I am undecided either way. Defending against Gobnait, putting together that monster post, and etc etc. has taken alot of my time and attention.

Yourself? My suspicions of Jorhan have zero to do with you; my potential suspicion of you has everything to do with Jorhan; a very pertinent distinction. I suspect Jorhan for his own actions, and also becasue to some extent of Laine monitoring who was voting for Jorhan, when most of us had to keep referring to a list when deciding on whom to cast a ballot.

Your actions in relation to Jorhan are very secondary at this point. Should he turn up as a criminal, then you will come under my scrutiny. But saying suspicion of Jorhan has to do with you is putting the cart before the horse.

And your ginormous post is what is making me suspect you, TBH, more than anything that went before as it relates to Jorhan. It appears to me that it is an attempted distraction, an attempt to refocus people from Jorhan onto Gobnait. Before this post, I had no real opinion of you in this game; afterwards, not so much.

Full of flowery language and excessive to the needs quoting and bolding, it is confusing, intentionally so IMO. Many people with less time than you or I will come in, skim that, and say "Wow, a giant multi quoting post with bolding, etc. That Queran sure must be right about Gobnait, look at all of the points he's making." I have known several people who do this kind of thing when they are part of a Gang of Naughties solely to appear nice.

My opinion of Gobnait depends very much so, as does my opinion of you, on how this lynch comes up.

Queran, you answered not my query; what is your opinion of Jorhan and Laine?

Crosspost with Dilan; well spoken.

There is much, much more than meets the eye in this game. The seven mystery roles play into that; in a game with such a number of participants, only one grouping of lawless folk seems a stretch. This as well as the ambiguousness of Bea & Roxys utterances (which is likely intentional in a tale abounding with such mystery as this is) makes me think we will have to keep careful track of who does and does not exercise their poll rights.

I picked Jorhan Day One as he had said almost nothing when I placed my ballot. Then he suddenly appears, then says nothing again, then makes a large post soon after missing the closing of the ballot. That alone makes me think he is up to nothing beneficial. So I will repeat my Day One choice.

Chooses Jorhan

Some interesting points; I disagree that any non random vote is a good vote, and I feel that regardless of who Caillic would have voted for, she would have said she wished they were not lynched for such an unhappy reason. Like most of us, she had no basis for making a decision, especially based on the table dynamic.

In the post you quote, Mainchin did not say he was definitely going random, he said he might, and wanted to read their posts first.

As I said, some interesting points, but I am not in total agreement with many of them. I think some reaching is occurring, although that certainly does not mean anything negative; we are all searching for reason this early in a thread where many seem to be having trouble finding their way. But if we all suspected the same folk, these competitions would be dull indeed

What are your opinions on Jorhan & Laine?

I played a game once long ago and far away that involved a complex code cooked up in the thread about wine, so perchance the person who set forth that argument also played that game? I also play these games for fun, and in these personas, it is even more amusing to banter a bit, and I for one will discount suspicions of people based on mythical based banter with no other basis behind them.

And Queran, I have spoken quite a bit as is my wont. My point there was that your post is so full of hyperbolic terminology and excessive verbiage that it is hard to follow, even for one such as myself, no stranger to excessive verbiage & hyperbole as it were.

This humble Pixie asks you to tone it back just a notch, so that your magnificent and erudite texts may be better understood by all, and not just admired for their cleverness

Is this post perchance one of those to go thrice through Google Translate?

I totes understand the need to perplex The Spinner of Lies and his Scrabblesque power, but seriously, thou dost lay it on a bit thick.

Grutfud Orangesprite wrote:

Fane Winebattle wrote:I feel so lost in this game (sigh)

you aren't the only one.

The combination of secret identities and an unusual Day One voting mechanic made it so. Stick it out, as if it were your first game with people totally unknown to you. You will get the swing of it

I barely knew whom I could cast a ballot on for myself; one thing that drew my eye about you was that you were keeping tabs on who voted for Jorhan. This more than anything makes me feel you were perhaps in league with him.

Dilan Bluemoss wrote:An observation from the Purple Sea Elves: The rush to sacrifice Caillic by those at the Peace Table came shortly after Jorhan received his second vote. It is therefore possible that Jorhan is one of our enemies, and that some or all of Queran. Bronwyn and Carmen (all of whom I found somewhat shady on Day 1) intervened to protect their fellow fiend. Far from certain, but a possibility nevertheless.

I am leaning this way as well, truth be told. I need to quaff a hearty beverage, and peruse todays eruditions. Let us not forget as well those seven mystery characters. There well could be an entire league of no-goodniks hidden in that number. So suppositions regarding what a nefarious individual may or may not do might also be affected by whether their character is known or not known.

Laine Crystalsteam wrote:

Dierdre Wonderbird wrote:So reading back and catching up, I noted a few little things, nothing big but enough to make a note of them for later.

First off, the only real topic of discussion on Day 1 was Rumpy and potential ways around his power. While I applaud discussion, and I think the back n forth was good, it inevitably led to one of the thing i hate about Day 1s which is that someone got lynched for something they said about a side topic which everyone seemed to admit could have been said by a civ.

With no real case or suspicion, it feels to me like the idea of finding someone in the Rumpy discussion to lynch would be a good move for the mafia, but more than that, a smart mafia would promote the idea in theory, let it take root, and then back away from it to avoid being attached to the lynch.

So I'll say that I've got my eye on Laine Crystalsteam. This progression of posts is ping-y to me. It's all promoting voting for people who had certain kinds of posts about Rumpy and then BAM, I'll just vote for this guy who said he'd vote for the lowest poster but then didn't quite vote for the lowEST poster. It smells.

Laine Crystalsteam wrote:I think I may vote for Gaerwen Gleamingrace, as I found it weird that he/she was against using foreign languages to circumvent Rumpelstiltskin's ability. I know it's not much of a reason, but it is Day 1 and that's all I have to go on.

Laine Crystalsteam wrote:

Dilan Bluemoss wrote:
I was against it as well, because it would have mad communication impossible.

Yes, I suppose you're right. It would be difficult. I just don't really have a reason for voting anyone.

Laine Crystalsteam wrote:
I agree with what you said about Caillic. Seems like a good way to go. It is very odd that he/she would not try to find a way around the ability. If she/he is on Rumpelstiltskin's team and knows that there are consequences, he/she might be faking civvieness by alerting us to consequences from the hosts. Though, it's very tricky to get a read on people right now.

Laine Crystalsteam wrote:I am thinking of voting for Bac because he/she claimed that he was going to vote for the lowest poster, which is Etain Royalskull (0 in-game posts) but Bac voted for Jorhan Poisondart who had one post at the time.

Laine Crystalsteam wrote:The Flying Satyrs have decided that our vote shall go to Bac Wunderelin, Rajah of the Twilight Pixies for his/her contradictions in his/her vote.

After Dilan responded to my post, I thought about it and realised that Gaerwen and Dilan were right and that communicating in another language would not work, thereby negating my reason for the vote. I then looked and noticed the contradiction in Bac's vote and voted for him. I don't see anything wrong with that.

I do

I did not do so, I never mentioned "no shows"; I mentioned people who low posted. You extrapolated. You were reaching, very much so.

I must say I agree with Diedres analysis; I think Laine wanted to vote for me for whatever REAL reason s/he had, and made up a reason.

Thank You illustrious Host Lady

I tried to search the word I had in mind, and it was too common, I am glad I do not have to reread every post based on a hunch that is possibly totally silly, probably, actually, lol.

Rhinfrew Flowingrass wrote:

Bronwyn Mightyfeet wrote:

Rhinfrew Flowingrass wrote:Psst.

Want to know a secret?

I'm a-scared.

I got my name because when I drink a good bit...

...I make it flow in grass!

Yes, your greatuncle, Sigobert Flowingrass wiped out an entire Sunrise Pixie village that way. Since then we no longer build on the ground

I am going to the Woods. Both Castle & House were built by hands, the woods were here before hands, and will be here after.

Gentle Hostladies, I know you said no more Rumple questions, but I don't want to waste a bunch of time searching if my thought is incorrect; was Rumple allowed to pick a word for Day One, or is his first word tonight? If you already answered this, sorry

I for one plan to continue to try to switch up my vocabulary. In addition to potentially helping to foil Rumple, it might also help Princess & Pea, since she can't lie detect statements with common Mafia words anyhow.

I know what word I would pick for Day One were I Rumple, and I plan to go back and search that word and see if there was anyone trying to push people to say it, or encourage it, depending on what the hostesses say.

linki; yay for

Queran Gloomsoul wrote:'Tis true, the farts of Don Cheadle-Kracken are as deadly as they are nondiscriminatory in their destruction.

Perhaps he knew one of those mighty blasts would level our entire Pixie civilization, so he chose to refrain from so doing in our vicinity

Not a fan of Carmens vote, tbh. Fanes explanation feels more 'real' to me, as it were.

Jorhan Poisondart wrote:Like I said, life happens. Fane voting for me when he could not is a pretty big red flag, and as I can return fire, I shall.

RIP Princess

And I think continuously showing up at convenient times is a big red flag, too.