Ameerah Frolicstag wrote:Bac Wunderelin wrote:Mainchin Ironbeast wrote:Shand Azureye wrote:I apologize for not participating much today; work has been brutal, and I haven't been able to give the game as much time as it deserves. I've read through and enjoyed the eloquent, well-thought out recent posts. Unfortunately, and this could also have to do with my shattered confidence -- I really believed Jorhan would flip bad -- I'm still not getting any strong pings. What also makes my hands a bit shaky as I move it towards the vote button is Bac's idea that there may be another secret baddie team lurking. If this is correct, then our situation looks very bleak indeed, and we most certainly need to choose our target wisely today.
Right now, I'm fairly certain that Gobnait is a townie (else, he's the best baddie I have ever played against), and I'm feeling good about Bac as well. Despite the Jorhan debacle, I still feel uneasy about Queran, but that may just be because of his style. His eloquence and verbosity I appreciate more than anyone else's in the game, and at the same time, it's these same qualities that also make me a bit apprehensive about his agenda. I certainly don't have anything concrete against him though, and while I don't feel comfortable voting for him today, my eyes are ever set on him.
Ameerah Frolicstag wrote:Mainchin - Table switcher. First to propose the idea that there is at least one mafia at each table and that the hosts may have decreed that. Says he will likely randomize Day 1, then ultimately decides to vote for a low poster, Gaerwen. He defends Laine
here when Laine began taking heat for his posts and vote Day 1. He has a couple of posts defending Gobnait (maybe buddying up to him??). And I was somewhat bothered by his post
here. At the end he says he will try to find some time to read back and form some opinions of his own, but barring that will vote for "the most satisfactory argument from my esteemed fellow creatures." To me this reads like a nice little set-up for being able to place the blame on someone else's case if a civvie gets lynched again.
Thank you for the synopses Ameerah, that helped me a lot. I've my eyes on all the three players you mention (Mainchin, Laine, and Carmen). Of the three, I find Mainchin the most interesting at this point, especially coupled with the point that Rhinfrew brought up earlier. Mainchin voted for Miyuki at a point when Jorhan was all but sure to be lynched. This could be a simple baddie tactic to stay out of trouble, knowing (as only a baddie can know) that the town would come after the Jorhan-voters when, eventually, it would be revealed that Jorhan was good. This is a minor ping, however, and truth be told, I'm almost as lost today as I was on day 1. I do have to vote soon because I don't know if I will be able to get on the internet before the poll closes. I will give it another hour or so, and hopefully a second read will bring something to my attention that I might have missed in my first. Failing that, I'm leaning towards a Mainchin vote today.
I have never ever voted for Myuki!

I found this while rereading mainchin. I find it interesting. Ameerah and Shand both are kind of (looking at it in retrospect) trying to cast suspicion against Mainchin. I also find it WAAAAAY interesting that Ameerah mentions someone buddying up to Gobnait. Buddying up is not the totally commonest expression, in Mafia. I did a search of it at RM and came up with 66 matches. Second time this game I see someone discussing "buddying up" in relation to Gobnait.
Personally I have no connection to Gobnait, but a few people seem realllly invested in trying to plot connections for him. Shand also specifically says he would like to plot connections for Mainchin, Carmen & Laine based on Ameerahs post. Now, Mainchin was a civvie. My initial suspicion of Laine was based on Jorhan being bad, which he was not. A lot of people, including me, seem to see potential civ credentials in Carmen.
This post is one of theose things that make you go hmmmm, as far as I am concerned.
Today we have a chance to have a lynch free of fear of talking and free of Rumpys manipulation. We really need to talk a lot today, and get our cards and suspicions on the table.
Bac, you are going to be mightily disappointed if you succeed in getting me lynched because I'm not the evil you've convinced yourself I am. Seriously, I'm not, and I think you've seriously tunnel-visioned yourself into thinking otherwise. You are harping on something I said on Day 2 when I was just beginning to get my head into the game. And I will repeat, since then I haven't mentioned suspecting you since.
You also appear to be trying to connect me to Shand and others now.
Shand, give me a hand here. The only way Shand and I could be in cahoots with one another is if we're civvie who happen to have shared an idea or two in the thread.
I'm sorry I suspected you on Day 2, Bac. Clearly I opened a giant can of worms with that. But again, on Day 3, I really began to read the thread and never mentioned suspecting you again. Think about that some.
Yes, I suspected Mainchin somewhat, and Laine too. But in the same post where I made my comments about those two, I also made them about Carmen. And I've been pretty much going after her ever since.
This has zero to do with suspecting me, it has everthing to do with thread association. In my mind, you are clearly associated with specific people. You can try to call it a No U if you like, but it isn't one. I have suspected you ever since you said I did something and said something, and when called on it, you waffled, and produced nothing, as I never said or did what you implied I did. Making things up about people is a baddie thing, and that is how I viewed what you did. I don't care if you suspected me, I care that you made stuff up about me. I would have done the same had I thought you were making something up about anyone, not just me. Like Shand trying to single out one person in a sea of Finian voters. It feels bad to me.
Shand never did anything to me, or even got on my radar in any way, until I reread that post where he quoted you, both trying to get rid of Mainchin who was inexplicably lynched without any votes.
Gee whoever lynched Mainchin wanted him dead, huh?
That whole thing has nothing to do with your opinion of me. It's your own words and actions.
Now really, gotta go, family calls
