The Syndicate

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India wrote: ↑Fri Dec 15, 2017 9:02 pmAnd now we cannot spell dick.

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I fell asleep.

Did anyone peep the end of day phase poll with their eyeballs who can tell me what it looked like? Was it still a tie or did Kilo receive a majority of votes?

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To be honest the attitude towards this lynch has made me lose my excitement a little. It seems like the more relevant choice now is whether we vote for "yes flips" or "no flips"

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Charlie wrote: ↑Thu Dec 14, 2017 9:47 pm Huh, poll is still screwed up and showing Kilo at one vote but both Bravo and I show up as voting for Kilo so it should be two.

@Hotel can you explain why you suspect me and why you suspect Foxtrot?

Could you and @Bravo move your votes off of and then back onto Kilo? That might fix it.

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moving my vote to Delta to see if anything shakes out of the 4 way tie

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[mention]Foxtrot[/mention] what was the deal with your vote for India?

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Next letter to complain about game mechanics will earn my eternal ire.

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some of you nerds wrote:Oh no, this game is a little bit difficult. I guess we should all just give up, and stop trying to win forever.

It's only day 1, why are you guys already deciding what we can't do?

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It is what it is, but I'm not super pleased about our one and only info opportunity being used as leverage to keep a single player alive instead of allowing for the possibility for the mafia to trip that wire and give the rest of us some context.

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I thought Dr. J was just a pun on Dr. Dre.

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Also, lynching people as we normally would is about as likely to get mafia as doing so sequentially, the only difference is that it allows the mafia opportunities to manipulate shit, which we can catch them in.

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Foxtrot wrote: ↑Thu Dec 14, 2017 7:01 pm
Alpha wrote: ↑Thu Dec 14, 2017 6:54 pm Alright so.... What does that mean?
Means I no longer give a shit.

Too stressful to care about a game that doesn't reward you with info anyways.

I just wanna have a good time and spell funny words. Like... FIB and.... and IF

Let RNG hunt down mafia.

Linki - and here comes I to rain on F's parade.

Yeah, I don't agree with that. No flips doesn't completely remove our ability to find baddies, it just changes the fundamentals available to use to find them. Like sprityo said we just have to "git gud"

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Alright so.... What does that mean?

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I'll play as I like as well.

What I like is encouraging open and honest communication and pressuring players to contribute more.

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Juliet wrote: ↑Thu Dec 14, 2017 5:59 pm
Alpha wrote: ↑Thu Dec 14, 2017 4:24 pm tl;dr would force legible content and prevent rapping being used as a smokescreen.
Forcing a player and imposing your will?
Calm your jets man, sit back and chill
I can't be arsed to take your pill
I'll play as a I like, and enjoy it still

*votes Juliets*

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Foxtrot wrote: ↑Thu Dec 14, 2017 5:40 pm
Alpha wrote: ↑Thu Dec 14, 2017 5:32 pmActually just lynching people in a specific sequential order might be a valid method of killing scum in this game.
I kinda like this more. I wonder what the numbers are on the probability of hitting all 3 scum this way.

The downside is that we lose out on analyzing relationships between players, but we don't really get that anyways. Especially since the Oracle role is inert. Though people may suddenly have to be resistant towards the strategy when it comes time for their teammate to be.... culled I guess?

The other downside is that I am at the start of the alphabet and it would be pretty hypocritical of me to not accept the responsibility of being the first sacrifice.

I would also feel pretty stupid dying that way if you guys stopped using the sequence strategy immediately after.

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The constructive criticism is that it's really pretty bad. If we only choose "no vote" then we completely give the steering wheel to the mafia and gaurantee an endgame sequence with 3 living mafia.

Even if we all just vote just vote at random we have a chance at catching scum by accident. Lynching people because of weird tone stuff or whatever has a chance of snagging a mafia, even if we won't know that we did it until the game ends.

Actually just lynching people in a specific sequential order might be a valid method of killing scum in this game.

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Would you like some constructive criticism on your plan?

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Foxtrot wrote: ↑Thu Dec 14, 2017 4:56 pm Idk. There's no reason to lynch in this set up. I'd much rather wait till end game and take the 50% without ruining the Oracle's chances of getting us info and by then we should be able to analyze team interactions.

So your proposal is that we should let the mafia have 100% control over who lives and dies for 5 phases and then hope that the mafia will leave 3 or 4 players alive who are capable of agreeing on 3 correct suspects in a row?

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Bravo wrote: ↑Thu Dec 14, 2017 4:34 pm
Juliet wrote: ↑Thu Dec 14, 2017 10:28 am What's up town, it's Dr. J,
I brought along my vote and I'm here to stay.
You ask me if I'd want to lynch the letter K?
I tell you "Yesssir! After an and MIA".
Why not instead lynch the letter G?
Or better yet, toss your votes on the AWOL D?
A letter that's the furthest from what our eyes see,
Just like the moon at its apogee.
Juliet, why do you feel it is prudent to prioritize an MIA lynch over a K lynch specifically?

If you translate this post from rap back into plain English it's actually just Juliet saying hello and then making a short list of non-active players.

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I'd be okay with a Juliet vote.

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tl;dr would force legible content and prevent rapping being used as a smokescreen.

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India wrote: ↑Thu Dec 14, 2017 4:09 pm
Juliet wrote: ↑Thu Dec 14, 2017 3:45 pm
Echo wrote: ↑Thu Dec 14, 2017 1:57 pm
Alpha wrote: ↑Thu Dec 14, 2017 1:11 pm Without any reliable flips in this game it's more important than ever for everyone to be pretty dang clear about why they're voting for who they're voting for.
Without any flips - reliable or unreliable - it will be harder than most other games to determine which voting reasons are genuine.
Hello friends, Dr. J is back
I saw this post, and I gotta react
I like your pause, I think it's got good tact
But reasons are reasons, scum will still slack
It's a game about the mind and a game about deceit
Take a seat, watch 'em speak, or accept defeat
If we talk and talk, keep 'em out on the street
We'll nab those wolves dead on their feet.
I dislike this post. It says nothing.

[mention]Juliet[/mention], rap is cool and fun and I'm glad you're doing it. It's also going to make it harder for you to communicate and harder for us to read you. I know this is maybe antithetical to your rap strategy but if you could include a tl;dr at the end of your rap verses I would appreciate it.

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Bravo wrote: ↑Thu Dec 14, 2017 4:08 pm
Alpha wrote: ↑Thu Dec 14, 2017 4:06 pm Placing my vote on Kilo basically to see what happens. I'm interested in what reactions might come out of a 3-way tie here.
Do you have any perspective to share on the suspicions I stated about Kilo?

I think they're solid for day 1, and I think Kilo has shown a relatively low civvie drive.

Also, I keep confusing you and Charlie for some reason.

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Bravo wrote: ↑Thu Dec 14, 2017 4:04 pm The poll is wacked up right now. It shows 3-3-2, but the names I see should make it 3-3-3.

I think I broke the poll when I switched my vote.... I moved it around a bunch to see if vote order had been implemented yet and now it's broken.

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Placing my vote on Kilo basically to see what happens. I'm interested in what reactions might come out of a 3-way tie here.

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I don't necessarily see my vote staying on Charlie. My issue with Charlie was their puffed up civvie pride attitude not being backed up by any actually scum hunting footwork. Now that they've actually done some stuff it doesn't look quite as damning.

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How long until day phase ends?

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I am concerned. I know this is day one. Ordinarily, for example, if four players vote for Charlie and he flips bad, conclusions can be drawn about those 4 players regardless of how strong their convictions were.

In this game there are no flips. So the only thing we can use to judge people's character is their reasons for voting whomever.

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Echo wrote: ↑Thu Dec 14, 2017 1:57 pm
Alpha wrote: ↑Thu Dec 14, 2017 1:11 pm Without any reliable flips in this game it's more important than ever for everyone to be pretty dang clear about why they're voting for who they're voting for.
Without any flips - reliable or unreliable - it will be harder than most other games to determine which voting reasons are genuine.

Which is why it's so important that everyone take responsibility for their votes.

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Without any reliable flips in this game it's more important than ever for everyone to be pretty dang clear about why they're voting for who they're voting for.

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Echo wrote: ↑Thu Dec 14, 2017 9:33 am
Alpha wrote: ↑Thu Dec 14, 2017 12:54 am
Echo wrote: ↑Thu Dec 14, 2017 12:44 am I challenged you to give me a better reason to vote someone, and you did.
1. You shouldn't be taking my advice on who to vote for, 20% of my posts have been about spelling rude words on the internet.
I wasn't taking your advice. I was judging the voting reason you gave under pressure against my reason for voting you. My judgement, not your advice.

2. Isn't it a little weird to settle your vote on someone just cus someone else gave you a reason to vote for them? It doesn't fit with the pro-jabbing stance you had earlier.
"Pro-jabbing stance":

Juliet wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2017 1:41 pm
Bravo wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2017 1:33 pm On this page so far we have spelled CISPRITYOJIABB, which is one of my absolute favorite words
If we play our cards right, we can fill this game with lots of jibs.

Juliet wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2017 1:43 pm Did I say jib? I meant gibe.

Echo wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2017 1:57 pm I, for one, would like to see more jabs.

Like this jab...
That's what is known as a "segue", often misspelled "segway".

That's not the point. Are you voting for Charlie cus you agree or because you just wanted a reason to vote for someone?

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Echo wrote: ↑Thu Dec 14, 2017 12:44 am I challenged you to give me a better reason to vote someone, and you did.

1. You shouldn't be taking my advice on who to vote for, 20% of my posts have been about spelling rude words on the internet.

2. Isn't it a little weird to settle your vote on someone just cus someone else gave you a reason to vote for them? It doesn't fit with the pro-jabbing stance you had earlier.

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Echo wrote: ↑Thu Dec 14, 2017 12:08 am
Alpha wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2017 2:04 pm
Echo wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2017 1:57 pm I, for one, would like to see more jabs.

Like this jab, at Alpha: take my vote until you can come up with a non-dick-related reason to vote someone that I like more than my vote for you. You don't have to waver from your excellent dick plan, but you can't hide behind it.

*vote Alpha*
I think Charlie is puffing themselves up to try to seem ultra-civ.

I think "let's stop making jokes and only focusing on killing criminals" is an easy feel-good stance to take in a mafia game, and in Charlie it seems forced.
Ok, well, I'm a letter of my word. That ios better. *vote Charlie*

Are you voting Charlie because I brought up a good point about Charlie and you agree with it? You voted for me with the intention of prodding, what is the reason behind your vote for Charlie?

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I refuse to improve myself for any reason.

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sprityo wrote: ↑Mon Dec 11, 2017 6:27 pmThere is no reveal upon death of any kind

Hey wait so how do we do this? How do we..... anything?

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[mention]Delta[/mention] [mention]Foxtrot[/mention] and [mention]Hotel[/mention] are the only ones who have yet to check in.

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48 hour day deadline is tomorrow, also time is an illusion.

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Charlie wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2017 4:12 pm Ok lemme just go ahead and say I'mma not do that fancy posh verbiage heavy style. At first I was thinkin I was gonna do a different style every post and just keep changin' up the way I speak, but thinking about it now in light of india's thoughts, that's probably not the right choice here and would just make it easier for the disguiser. So I'll try to settle into a more normal style.

Alpha and India, I kind of get why you voted for me, but I wasn't trying to hide behind the style (well kind of in that I think it's fun to see how long one's sock puppet can last without being obviously identified as one's own style) I was just having a bit of fun with it. Alpha, I don't actually think you're particularly suspicious after all as you are one of the most active so far and your jokeyness is genuine. Thus I'll change my vote, not to a non-poster but to someone who has at least checked in but has not yet participated much. IIRC Golf fits that description.

The posting style wasn't important as much as the apparent attempt at overcompensated posturing. Like climbing up on a table and shouting "I hate murderers more than anyone else ever has."

I can also see how roleplaying could paint your posts in a different more serious light than intended. Sticking to one roleplaying personality is probably best, otherwise it's hard to actually gauge levels of sincerity, in addition to the stuff India said.

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Posting a short riddle a half-hour before the end of the night and giving the answer after dawn seems like a valid choice... At least that's what I'll probably do.

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India wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2017 2:24 pm
Bravo wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2017 2:18 pm I should say: I know what a gimmick is, but what is the benefit you believe it offers with regard to hindering the disguiser role?
If the gimmick is annoying, subtle, or restrictive to use, the disguiser may not want to kill the person who has it.
On the contrary, if the gimmick is easy to mimic, then the disguiser could use it as cover when he takes that slot. Nobody would notice the difference.

It's something to think about, but I guess it depends on the personality and playstyle of the disguiser.

linki: Having a personality to your posts that is harder to define would be good, I think. If I am taken, I want people to see the change in tone.
If the gimmick is similarly hard to mimic, and does not hinder town, then yes. Being hard to impersonate would be good, I think. YMMV.

That's a hard line walk.... Any gimmick that would hinder the disguiser when they take over a sock would also hinder the original player themselves.

Keeping yourself from getting body snatched is all well and good but if your posts are incomprehensible garbage then that's not great either.

Light roleplay seems like a good compromise... If someone were to kill me right now and take over my account they might lean into the dick thing or lean away from it in a noticable way.

The same thing goes for suspicions actually. If a player suddenly drops something that was important to them before that could be a sign that they've been compromised. Non-posters and low posters are especially threatening in that case.

Still thinking out loud, wouldn't we know when the mind theft took place because there'd be a night with no visible death?

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Voting Charlie until I see evidence that their hardline crusade is real.

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India wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2017 2:11 pm A potential 'thing' to look at is the way people post. The playstyle. There is one role, the disguiser, that can mimic people when it kills them. This means:
1. We should look out for people who post different after a night cycle.
2. Gimmicks would make getting killed by the disguiser more of a hindrance to the disguiser.
3. On the contrary, if the disguiser uses a gimmick, they can assure that their next host is not too similar to their previous dead host.
4. No-posters are a wild card. What if they suddenly start posting D2 because they died N1? I don't like that, and encourage the mod to ping these people. I don't want to be paranoid about this one.
5. No townread is guaranteed to be a townread tomorrow.
Keep these in mind I think.

In light of this, is it better to include difficult to reproduce gimmicks or specific character aspects into our posts?

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I'm curious about the votes for India

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Echo wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2017 1:57 pm I, for one, would like to see more jabs.

Like this jab, at Alpha: take my vote until you can come up with a non-dick-related reason to vote someone that I like more than my vote for you. You don't have to waver from your excellent dick plan, but you can't hide behind it.

*vote Alpha*

I think Charlie is puffing themselves up to try to seem ultra-civ.

I think "let's stop making jokes and only focusing on killing criminals" is an easy feel-good stance to take in a mafia game, and in Charlie it seems forced.

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Charlie wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2017 12:28 pm As a component of this hypothetical dick, I must admit that I fail to appreciate its relevance to our objective. I shall not promise that I will not participate should a timely opportunity present itself, but I shall heretofore assume that any participant who focuses disproportionately on that goal to have insufficient priorities and that they are taking advantage of the sophomoric spelling mission to distract from the true and correct mission: the search for those among us who seek to destroy.

Charlie wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2017 12:31 pm
Alpha wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2017 3:42 am
Bravo wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2017 3:29 am If we'd gotten to 15 players, Oscar could have helped us do one better than "dick".
Dock

Bravo wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2017 3:33 am
Alpha wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2017 3:18 am Unless the goal is to put vote pressure on Delta until they post?
Alpha, are you shook about voting for a letter? You scared?
Bravo, I don't think you understand, this is a once in a lifetime opportunity for all of us.

I'll do whatever it takes to follow through with this really dumb shitty joke. Whatever it takes.
For aforementioned reasons and for the bolded segment of the above selection, I shall be casting my vote for Alpha.

it was hyperbole my dude. it's day one there's no harm in fucking around a little.

Charlie, is your over-the-top Knights Templar thing real or is it just an act to seem more civ?

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I'm actually curious about India's vote for Delta as well.

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Bravo wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2017 3:29 am If we'd gotten to 15 players, Oscar could have helped us do one better than "dick".

Dock

Bravo wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2017 3:33 am
Alpha wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2017 3:18 am Unless the goal is to put vote pressure on Delta until they post?
Alpha, are you shook about voting for a letter? You scared?

Bravo, I don't think you understand, this is a once in a lifetime opportunity for all of us.

I'll do whatever it takes to follow through with this really dumb shitty joke. Whatever it takes.

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Unless the goal is to put vote pressure on Delta until they post?

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We can't spell dick if we lynch Delta.

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