The Syndicate

I'm going to seal the deal on Sarah Good. If you're good, you could have tried harder.

Alizon Device wrote:

Jane Southworth wrote:". Sarah Anne Karin Swann Kozminski Jo N° 4 (5) (6), Ellis (9), Mali (10), 33% of yellow Polonais o"

I got this much~

Sarah Good
4
Anne Redferne (5), Karin Svensdotter (6), Alice Nutter (9), Malin Matsdotter (10)
31%

But I don't know what you're trying to suggest with "Polonais o." I noticed that Alice voted without posting.

Oh I see.

Jennet Bierley wrote:Jane, but she's been lunafied, so no one will go for it today.

Those are my three prime suspects, Alizon a little more hesitant than the other two.

So the complete baddie team, according to you, is Mary Easty, Alizon Device, Karin Svendotter, and Jane Southworth? Okay then. I'm sure you'll be able to interpret the day 5 lynch without much difficulty in light of that.

Also consider that, on day 4, Mary Eastey voted for Karin when Margaret Pearson was going to be lynched. She did this after saying the following about Sarah Good (but never looking Sarah's way again)~

Mary Eastey wrote:Sarah is much more suspicious. Her "strategy" is to make puns with her name. She voted for me Day 1, without really offering an explanation, and then self voted Day 2. This seems to me like a baddie who is participating the bare minimum at the request of her teammates. She's definitely someone I'm going to be looking at today.

And voted when there was still like a dozen people who hadn't voted yet.

Jane Southworth wrote:". Sarah Anne Karin Swann Kozminski Jo N° 4 (5) (6), Ellis (9), Mali (10), 33% of yellow Polonais o"

I got this much~

Sarah Good
4
Anne Redferne (5), Karin Svensdotter (6), Alice Nutter (9), Malin Matsdotter (10)
31%

But I don't know what you're trying to suggest with "Polonais o." I noticed that Alice voted without posting.

I did a full reading of Anne Redferne.

First a history of votes.
1. Anne Whittle (6th, jokey reason)
2. Krystyna (14th, first vote when Bridget Bishop got lynched)
3. Entjen Gillis (5th, first vote on the day Krystyna got lynched despite having fewer votes)
4. Missed the vote.
5. Mary Eastey (7th, second vote)
6. Alizon Device (8th, third vote)
7. Malin (3rd, first vote)
8. Malin (11th, first vote)
9. Karin (7th, fourth vote)
10. Sarah Good (5th, first vote)

So this is a history of voting early in terms of sequence (likely because of real life, as evinced by things Anne has said). This is also indicative of not needing to save a teammate.

Anne went after Malin fairly consistently until the resurrection event, and now no longer considers Malin a threat (something I find strange since Malin had no positive opinion about Redferne). Not sure what to make of that.

Anne Redferne has never received a vote.

Anne's thread presence strikes me as student, though less so than Jane's did.

A few things bother me about Anne.

She jumped on the Karin case eagerly, but then retracted her support of the case after realizing it was based on faulty and misleading claims. However, she voted Karin anyway, also voicing support of a (supposedly) telling Jennet lynch.

Despite what Redferne said to Whittle, lynching Jennet would (I believe) be a wasted lynch. If I'm right about the resurrected ones being in the service of evil, and Anne is bad, then lynching Jennet would be the perfect crime. Waste a lynch that sets up someone else.

Jennet Bierley wrote:I voted myself. I do believe Sarah is good, or at least not bad, and we'll benefit more from my own lynch.

What leads you to that belief about Sarah?

Jane, would you like to take a survey?

Please quote all that apply~


I think it may be worth lynching Jennet for information.

I think Jennet has a student role but is working for the Death Eaters.

I think Jennet is a misguided student who really wants to help.

I think something else about Jennet.


I think Alice Nutter and Sarah Good voted outside of the Karin/Whittle lynch for evil reasons.

I think Alice Nutter and Sarah Good are probably teammates.


I would support a Jennt lynch.

I would support a Sarah lynch.

I would support a Barbara lynch.

I would support a Malin lynch.

I would support an Alice lynch.

I would support an Anne lynch.


I think there is 1 bad guy left.

I think there are 2 bad guys left.

I think there are 3 bad guys left.

I think there are 4 bad guys left.

I don't know how many bad guys are left.


I saw someone with the devil.

Jane, pull out your crayons.

Color the ones you think should be lynched with red the ones you're nervous about with yellow and those who are good with green. Not sure? Leave it alone.

Jennet Bierley
Alizon Device
Sarah Good
Katharina Henot
Barbara Kollerin
Malin Matsdotter
Alice Nutter
Anne Redferne
Jane Southworth
Karin Svensdotter

See, that's irony! Well done.

Sarah Good wrote:

Alizon Device wrote:

Sarah Good wrote:

Alizon Device wrote:I will leave it up to the other witches to decide if Malin is naughty or not. I hope the lesson we've learned is to not take someone's hasty ass word for it. Which smells like a hasty ass.

Jane is impaired. I hope to reach out to her, because she has good insight.

In the meantime, Sarah, you would do well to consider your words.

I'm the only one considering my words. :/

You have offered no words to consider.

Then why would you tell me to consider them?

That was word play.

In my first sentence, I was advising you to think before you post.

In my second sentence, I was giving you a Shakespearean smackdown.

Sarah Good wrote:

Alizon Device wrote:I will leave it up to the other witches to decide if Malin is naughty or not. I hope the lesson we've learned is to not take someone's hasty ass word for it. Which smells like a hasty ass.

Jane is impaired. I hope to reach out to her, because she has good insight.

In the meantime, Sarah, you would do well to consider your words.

I'm the only one considering my words. :/

You have offered no words to consider.

Malin Matsdotter wrote:Alizon, what do you make of the fact that Jennet said she would return to the underworld like Agnes, but has not done so?

That is yet a mystery to me. Agnes' exact words were this~

"But alas, I am likely not long for this world so I will have to hurry in any case."

That implies the possibility of staying. So I don't know. What do you think?

I will leave it up to the other witches to decide if Malin is naughty or not. I hope the lesson we've learned is to not take someone's hasty ass word for it. Which smells like a hasty ass.

Jane is impaired. I hope to reach out to her, because she has good insight.

In the meantime, Sarah, you would do well to consider your words.

Sarah Good wrote:

Alizon Device wrote:

Sarah Good wrote:

Alizon Device wrote:In all 44 of your posts, you've done absolutely nothing helpful. Don't try to start now.

Well, this buddy-buddy thing is pretty cute.

I'm giving you an opportunity to speak and be helpful. So is everyone else who has not voted for you. You're around. Even though you've already voted, you don't have other things to say?

linki @ Sarah~ Proof or GTFO

Proof like the fact that Mary was Lucius Malfoy or some other form of proof?

Malin is so transparently baddie I struggle to see how you could not see it. Or you're ignoring it because you're an indie and you don't care as long as Voldemort is your BFF

That will do. Thanks.

Sarah Good wrote:

Alizon Device wrote:In all 44 of your posts, you've done absolutely nothing helpful. Don't try to start now.

Well, this buddy-buddy thing is pretty cute.

I'm giving you an opportunity to speak and be helpful. So is everyone else who has not voted for you. You're around. Even though you've already voted, you don't have other things to say?

linki @ Sarah~ Proof or GTFO

In all 44 of your posts, you've done absolutely nothing helpful. Don't try to start now.

What is your opinion of Anne Redferne?

Malin Matsdotter wrote:

Alizon Device wrote:

Jennet Bierley wrote:

Alizon Device wrote:That, coupled with my opinion that resurrected persons are working for Tom Riddle, had been giving me pause about Sarah Good being bad.

Wait, so you hinted that you brought me back to life, and yet you think it was the doing of Tom Riddle?

I never once implied that the method of resurrection had anything to do with the quality of life after resurrection.

Alizon Device wrote:Malin, what is your opinion about the resurrected ones?

I am very suspicious of people who show up out of nowhere, vote without discussion, and get annoyed when people question them. Do not trust.

I'm sorry. I meant about my theory outlined above.

Also, Barbara Kollerin, a very squirrelly individual before and after death, has not been back since Day 9.

Jennet Bierley wrote:

Alizon Device wrote:That, coupled with my opinion that resurrected persons are working for Tom Riddle, had been giving me pause about Sarah Good being bad.

Wait, so you hinted that you brought me back to life, and yet you think it was the doing of Tom Riddle?

I never once implied that the method of resurrection had anything to do with the quality of life after resurrection.

Malin, what is your opinion about the resurrected ones?

I want to link to Jane's post and add to it now.

I am operating under the opinion that the resurrected persons are in service to Tom Riddle.

Jennet said she gunned hard for Mary and knew she would be killed for it. So if Jennet was Hermoine and checked Mary, that explains the sudden fervor. If this is true, then looking at when Jennet voted might be helpful~

1. Enjen (21st, no info)
2. Krystyna (22nd, no info)
3. Enjen (19th, likely no info)
4. Mary (4th, info)
5. Mary (3rd, info)

Now then, if Jennet were Hermoine, and she came back to life insisting on a Karin lynch, she'd be implying that she checked Karin. Asking to be lynched, then, would be an effective strategy in getting others to believe Karin should be lynched. However, looking at the above sequence, it can be assumed that Jennet did not check Karin unless she did so on the night she was killed.

Rewind to Agnes Sampson.

Agnes never said we should lynch Sarah Good. I threw out an interpretation of her vague comment and Anna Koldings expressed agreement with my thinking~

Anna Koldings wrote:

Alizon Device wrote:

Agnes Sampson wrote:Cool it with the snark everyone. Zombie don't play that. Anyway, we have more important things to discuss. The underworld was most illuminating. I can't be very specific, but let me just say that names can be deceiving.

So Sarah Good is not good.

I'd buy that. It doesn't work with anyone else's name (if that Agnes was driving at).

But right after this, Mary went nuts and Agnes never responded to me. Weirdly enough, Agnes spent her time back going after Entjen, then said this~

Agnes Sampson wrote:I really do have thoughts on players other than Entjen I swear, I will get to them soon, Im glad we have 24 hours and not a only a few like Margarethe almost had me believing! :P But alas, I am likely not long for this world so I will have to hurry in any case.

Then

Agnes Sampson wrote:Okay Entjen then who do you think is bad? The only person being discussed that I see right now is Mary, who I will get to in a bit. We need to be talking about more than one person in order to see which way the discussions head toward. As you have said before yourself there is more than one baddie out there.

I have thoughts on other players that I'm trying to get organized, but I'd like to hear your thoughts on other players as well.

Isn't it funny that Agnes came back and tried to have people discuss someone other than Lucius Malfoy?

Then

Agnes Sampson wrote:I think the case on Mary is pretty compelling. I'm placing my vote there.

Agnes never got back to us about any of these other players she supposedly had thoughts on, nor did she respond to my interpretation of what she said.

That, coupled with my opinion that resurrected persons are working for Tom Riddle, had been giving me pause about Sarah Good being bad.

But if Sarah Good WERE bad, and Agnes was working for the baddies, then her cryptic remark backfired. Agnes would have had no reason to address it and could move on to getting Entjen lynched. That didn't happen, and Agnes voted second to last for Mary, right before Sarah Good.

Sarah Good wrote:

Alizon Device wrote:

Sarah Good wrote:Go ahead and vote for the player that sniffed out Mary from Day 1 and see how far that takes you.

Glad you said that. You know, you give yourself far too much credit for something that happened basically without you.

Day 1~

Sarah Good wrote:Voted for Eastly cuz she's not Good

So this is sniffing "out Mary from Day 1."

Day 2~

Sarah Good wrote:No time. Voted me.

If you "sniffed out Mary from Day 1" as you put it, why not vote for Mary on day 2 instead of yourself?

Day 3~ You didn't post at all, but voted Krystyna.

Again, if you "sniffed out Mary from Day 1," why not vote for Mary on Day 3 instead of Krystyna? Why not be a little more aggressive in trying to get people to vote for Mary like you are doing with Malin right now?

Day 4~ You posted (once) but you didn't vote.

Day 5~

Sarah Good wrote:Mary Mary quite contrary.

On day 5, you voted for Mary. Last. Without saying anything. Without trying to get her lynched. If you "sniffed out Mary from Day 1" as you put it, why not try to get others to vote for Mary? Why did you wait for eleven other people to vote before you tacked on your vote at the end?

Because I'm a mafia trying to blend in

Day 9
Who is a nasty Death Eater?

Poll ended at Mon Mar 10, 2014 2:06 am

Jennet Bierley
0
No votes

Alizon Device
1
Alice Nutter (9)
7%

Sarah Good
0
No votes

Katharina Henot
0
No votes

Märet Jonsdotter
0
No votes

Barbara Kollerin
0
No votes

Malin Matsdotter
1
Sarah Good (13)
7%

Alice Nutter
0
No votes

Anne Redferne
0
No votes

Jane Southworth
0
No votes

Karin Svensdotter
5
Jennet Bierley (2), Barbara Kollerin (3), Anne Whittle (5), Anne Redferne (7), Märet Jonsdotter (8)
33%

Anne Whittle
5
Katharina Henot (10), Malin Matsdotter (11), Alizon Device (12), Karin Svensdotter (14), Jane Southworth (15)
33%

Fluttershy (Hosts/Mod/Deadies)
3
Lizzy (1), S~V~S (4), A Person (6)
20%

Total votes : 15

You're doing it wrong.

Sarah Good wrote:Go ahead and vote for the player that sniffed out Mary from Day 1 and see how far that takes you.

Glad you said that. You know, you give yourself far too much credit for something that happened basically without you.

Day 1~

Sarah Good wrote:Voted for Eastly cuz she's not Good

So this is sniffing "out Mary from Day 1."

Day 2~

Sarah Good wrote:No time. Voted me.

If you "sniffed out Mary from Day 1" as you put it, why not vote for Mary on day 2 instead of yourself?

Day 3~ You didn't post at all, but voted Krystyna.

Again, if you "sniffed out Mary from Day 1," why not vote for Mary on Day 3 instead of Krystyna? Why not be a little more aggressive in trying to get people to vote for Mary like you are doing with Malin right now?

Day 4~ You posted (once) but you didn't vote.

Day 5~

Sarah Good wrote:Mary Mary quite contrary.

On day 5, you voted for Mary. Last. Without saying anything. Without trying to get her lynched. If you "sniffed out Mary from Day 1" as you put it, why not try to get others to vote for Mary? Why did you wait for eleven other people to vote before you tacked on your vote at the end?

I have just read through all of Jane Southworth's posts.

Rebecca Nurse made a painfully bad "case" (I hesitate to even use the word) on Jane, and Jane handled it with competence.

Jane defended my vote against Merga solidly, which I appreciated.

Jane was suspicious of Karin Day 4 through 8. The opportunity to lynch Karin presented itself on Day 9, but Jane showed restraint. No, it didn't work out well in the end, but I think it speaks to goodness on her part.

Jane and I are on the same page in a lot of respects. One subject I am going to discuss momentarily.

One thing I found that weirded me out~

Jane Southworth wrote:

Merga Bien wrote:Hello?? I feel like...a new person.

Don't attack someone with Amnesia, OK? Let me catch up.

Can someone help a witch out and give me a highlights reel?

Welcome, Merga! I don't think a recap will do you much Good, so here is a link to a list of all of the players in the game. The names you find there contain links to all of that witch's posts in this thread. I suggest you start trying to read the full thread, beginning around the start of Day 1, and if something you read catches your eye, you can use that list to quickly peak at any player's contributions to the game. Do try to keep in mind the context around posts that you find in this way, because if you aren't sure what's being discussed, you might draw wrong conclusions about what you're reading. You must only use this shortcut for Good!

Unfortunately there is not an easy way to recap the thread for you because we haven't caught a baddie yet. We're still flying a little blind, and the thread will probably reflect that. Most everything that you NEED to know can be found in the first few posts of the game.

Jane used the word "Good" (capital letter). At first I thought it was a mistake, but then it appears again in the fifth line ("You must only use this shortcut for Good!"). I don't know. It just seems kind of spooky.

Sarah hon, you broke your pattern. You were supposed to vote for me today, not Malin.

Karin Svensdotter wrote:*pops head into Day 10*

Vote Jennet! Jennet's bad! Vote Jennet!



But seriously...RIP Malin. So...who are we looking at today? Any suggestions?

A Person wrote:A Proposal to All Current Players
How many of you would be willing to go to 24 hour days? We think it would work better with the current number of players, but we're not sure if it would suite your schedules. Please leave your response in thread (or else )

With people voting mad early, I'd be shocked if you received any objections.

I would prefer 24 hour days.

Märet Jonsdotter wrote:

Alizon Device wrote:I was wrong about Anne Whittle. I'm sorry Anne, and won't blame you if you hate me. Like I said, I'm trying, and I still don't think Karin is bad.


No it doesn't.

Maybe because all the Anne voters, you know, WAITED to vote. Like I've been asking people to do (when we have 48 hours). Maybe they were willing to hear out what anybody else had to say. That's what I did. To be fair, I think you did also, although it's clear you could have waited a bit longer.

It's only a baddie save if Karin is a baddie, and sorry to the ressurectees, but I'm not convinced. I listen to cases, not smelly "Some of us have info."

Really? That's a lame excuse.
I waited until the last day of the poll to vote too. So did others.
Please point me to where they said, "Some of us have info". Please also remind me who suggested we look at what Agnes said about Sarah Good, which was WAY more vague and less specific than what we have seen from Jennet and Barbra. If I'm not mistaken (and I could be), it was you and Malin, was it not? I think you're upset that things didn't go the way you wanted them to with your prize.

It's only as lame as your claim that this looks like a "classic baddie save," which is nothing more than begging the question. Try assuming that Karin is good. What does the poll look like to you then?

I acknowledged that you waited longer than others. But people just voting hours after the poll goes up sucks. It puts pressure on people to vote to save rather than vote to lynch. If someone votes without hearing what others have to say, why should others give that person the courtesy of listening to them? Know what I mean?

Jennet said "Some of us may know some things." Not the exact same words, I'll grant, but that's the meaning I took from it.

More on Agnes to follow.

Jennet Bierley wrote:

Alizon Device wrote:I was wrong about Anne Whittle. I'm sorry Anne, and won't blame you if you hate me. Like I said, I'm trying, and I still don't think Karin is bad.

Märet Jonsdotter wrote:Alizon Device
1
Alice Nutter (9)
7%

Karin Svensdotter
5
Jennet Bierley (2), Barbara Kollerin (3), Anne Whittle (5), Anne Redferne (7), Märet Jonsdotter (8)
33%

Anne Whittle
5
Katharina Henot (10), Malin Matsdotter (11), Alizon Device (12), Karin Svensdotter (14), Jane Southworth (15)
33%


You're telling this doesn't look like a classic baddie save? The FIRST vote for Anne came after the LAST vote for Karin.

No it doesn't.

Maybe because all the Anne voters, you know, WAITED to vote. Like I've been asking people to do (when we have 48 hours). Maybe they were willing to hear out what anybody else had to say. That's what I did. To be fair, I think you did also, although it's clear you could have waited a bit longer.

It's only a baddie save if Karin is a baddie, and sorry to the ressurectees, but I'm not convinced. I listen to cases, not smelly "Some of us have info."

Aside from you Alizon, not a single person offered any sort of reason for their vote of Anne, though I don't blame Karin since it was self-preservation. Based on where we're at in the game, and the fact that Anne racked up 5 votes late in the day after being down to Karin 5-0, there is something far "smellier" about that lynch than what I have stated so far in this game. At least one of those five witches is a Death Eater, and if you're going to dispute that with me then you're loonier than Luna. Today's lynch was a waste (you apologized, so must understand this as well), and I say this because even though we don't know Crabbe's alignment, he is a student, and this post clears him as a probable civilian.

Your first sentence isn't true.

Katherina said why she voted.

Malin was insane, but came back after the lynch to explain his vote.

Jane did not add anything at the hour of her vote, but she had plenty to say before. It sounded to me like she voted more because she didn't like the Karin lynch.

I was wrong about Anne Whittle. I'm sorry Anne, and won't blame you if you hate me. Like I said, I'm trying, and I still don't think Karin is bad.

Märet Jonsdotter wrote:Alizon Device
1
Alice Nutter (9)
7%

Karin Svensdotter
5
Jennet Bierley (2), Barbara Kollerin (3), Anne Whittle (5), Anne Redferne (7), Märet Jonsdotter (8)
33%

Anne Whittle
5
Katharina Henot (10), Malin Matsdotter (11), Alizon Device (12), Karin Svensdotter (14), Jane Southworth (15)
33%


You're telling this doesn't look like a classic baddie save? The FIRST vote for Anne came after the LAST vote for Karin.

No it doesn't.

Maybe because all the Anne voters, you know, WAITED to vote. Like I've been asking people to do (when we have 48 hours). Maybe they were willing to hear out what anybody else had to say. That's what I did. To be fair, I think you did also, although it's clear you could have waited a bit longer.

It's only a baddie save if Karin is a baddie, and sorry to the ressurectees, but I'm not convinced. I listen to cases, not smelly "Some of us have info."

Jennet Bierley wrote:Well there's only three voters left, And I know two of them (Karin and Jane) are going to hop on the Whittle-wagon.

If Karin is bad, is she the only one left?

Jennet Bierley wrote:Why are you voting her?

I have said this many times. She twists my words around. She had done so on at least two occasions.

Her last post is all over the map. I've given everyone a "gift" but I'm also Karin's teammate. I like how Katharina said it.

Anne Whittle wrote:I find it quite hilarious that Alizon has completely dropped me from her radar.

First, I didn't drop her from any radar. Second, I am positive that if I were actively advocating for her lynch in the thread this day period, she would have said this~

"I find it quite hilarious that Alizon is trying to put the thread's attention on me instead of where it should be- Karin."

Or some such variant. Anything I do is "odd" or "hilarious."

Anne says Barbara's case was strong but never said why. I am always suspicious of people who use adjectives ("strong case," "odd that...") without elaboration.

I'm sorry if I don't agree with the reasons Karin is receiving votes.

Actually, I'm not sorry.

Jennet Bierley wrote:That makes for 2 odd votes for Miss Whittle.

Three.

Jennet Bierley wrote:Sorry, I'm just trying to make things clear and simple. There's not much of that in this game, what with all the crazy death variations and events, so that last thing I wanted was my efforts to get lost in the rest of the mess. Hence why I stated exactly what my goal is, and what will happen.

Heck, I would even sacrifice myself today for the lynch to prove my goal and my agenda, but only if I'm guaranteed that everyone will listen to and follow what I have to say. I think people have forgotten who led the charge on Mary and are getting caught up in other places.

I'm going to bow out and let the other witches decide. I'm tired. I've tried my best. Three lynches got wasted because of people wanting to have at me (and Malin). I don't know who is good, bad, or ugly. I'm just tired.

Jennet Bierley wrote:And what rhetoric are you speaking of? The only one I've made came after your comment.

"I'm fortunate enough to be back in here to continue playing, even if not for long, so I'm going to take advantage of my time and invest it on you Karin. I will do a reading of everything that's happened since I died and post my thoughts on those players. I do know that is important as well with there probably being 3 Death Eaters left (2 aside from Karin), and with everyone here wanting it, but my main goal is to have you lynched Karin."

That kind of talk makes me nervous about you, sorry. Too ominous.

That doesn't make them bad. I wanted to hear from someone BEFORE anyone voted. And I don't like Jennet's rhetoric. Hence, I chose poorly.

Jennet didn't disagree with me. Jennet voted without saying anything to anybody really. Ditto Babs. I disagreed with THEM. That's the difference. Does disagreeing with them make me bad?

Where did I say Jennet was bad?

Märet Jonsdotter wrote:

Alizon Device wrote:

I'm starting to think I chose poorly.

So because someone disagrees with you, it was a poor decision to rezz them?
So if someone disagree with you, it's bad?
It makes them bad?
You realize what this implies about you and your allegiances, correct?



In addition, Jennett implied that she won't be around long.

No.
No.
No.
No.

Jennet Bierley wrote:I think you made a wise choice Alizon, as some of us may know some things.

Yeah, like what your new win condition is?

I'm starting to think I chose poorly.

Märet Jonsdotter wrote:Alizon, if not Karin, who do you propose get lynched?

I was just getting ready to post that I'm done defending Karin and refuse to let it further be a distraction (to me at least). I feel I've said what I needed to say on that front.

Let me compose my thoughts. I don't want to be hasty with them, and I really need to step away for a little bit.










(Not angry. Gotta pee. )

I decided to post this separately because I find it more important. It's another example of Babs and her misrepresentations of fact.

Barbara Kollerin wrote:Who says I haven't read? What I see is someone who coasted, someone who barely bothered to post, who threw a nothing vote on to Mary with no explanation after that lynch was inevitable, and who started posting a LOT more once people started eyeing her. She's bad. I got that from reading the pages I missed.

I see someone who has been busy, who told us her circumstances with the poll times, and then tried harder to participate more when she could.

On day 4, Karin took 3 votes. That's getting eyed.

Yet Karin didn't even VOTE on day 4. She missed it. She didn't post at all that day.

She posted once on day 5.

On day 6 she had one post.

Karin didn't start making substantial posts until Night 6.

Barbara Kollerin wrote:Alizon, the last post I saw was less than an hour before Karin voted, but looking now I see that that one was actually a quoted link of Mary's. But three hours or one, my point is the same. Karin's vote was not only after the gibberish, it was after comments had been left about throwing in thew towel. Funny you didn't link to that one.

And when a baddie starts posting in gibberish after taking on votes, they've thrown in the towel, wouldn't you say?

And tell me. If Jennet pretty much took out Mary and I agreed with her wholeheartedly from start to finish of her case, and now Jennet and I both are both in agreement about Karin, while I'm not going to say that that means people should blindly follow us, it's weird that you would give me the stinkeye.

But Alizon, tell me. Do you not think Mary had thrown in the towel?

I don't even know where to begin with this. Three hours or one, your point is the same? I'm sorry. Your words were "EXACTLY ONE HOUR." It's bad enough that you make us search around for what you're talking about, but then you get such a fundamental, guiding fact wrong.

No, I don't think Mary threw in the towel. I'm thinking Mary got herself lynched on purpose. So her teammates could vote for her, get civvie credit, and then come back later and claim that Mary's teammates threw in the towel. You know. Like what you're doing.

And you agreeing wholeheartedly with Jennet about something? Please. That'll NEVER happen. Not in a million years!

Barbara Kollerin wrote:And my getting the time wrong by 2 hours isn't cause for you to eye me. What baddie would be insisting, like I am, that people go find the very posts that would show my time comment to be wrong? I've said go read them multiple times, so clearly that was a simple mistake. And I haven't been doing linked posts because I'm ofte on my phone while at work today, linking is impossible.

Linki: my facts are the same. three hours versus one doesn't change anything.

I believe the term for this is WIFOM.

Also, you don't have to bother linking anything. A simple copy and paste of the URL would have been sufficient.

Anyway, the wrong by however many hours isn't cause for me to eye you. It's cause for me to think you have a terrible case built on misleading statements. What is cause for me to eye you is what I said at the end of a post containing many points you did not address.

Barbara Kollerin wrote:And earlier in the game I was honestly only half-invested in the game. Now that I'm back for awhile, I'm eager to accomplish that which you guys seem to be having difficulty with; lynching baddies.

And there should by rights be people out there who understand and my death and my rezz etc. and know that it does not make me untrustworthy. If they see this but choose to not trust me anyway, well I'm not winning this game anyway, so it makes no difference to me. The odds of a Barb win are astronomically small, I'd say. Trust me on that. So I'm trying to not let the baddies win, period. I've done what I can, for now.

If you cared about students, you would talk to us first.

Jane Southworth wrote:Alizon who are you thinking about voting for today and why?

I am unsure at the moment. Early votes pressure people into having to use their vote to *save* somebody instead of vote for who they think is bad. It's a crappy situation.

Karin has two votes. Anne Whittle has expressed an interest (with no precedence or specific reason why) in voting Karin, so that's three.

I obviously do not think Karin is bad, and these two votes from two resurrected persons out of nowhere with tenuous reasons behind them make me willing to hold my vote in case I need to save her.

Linki~ Barbara, I will answer you after my brief journey into the towne. Whatever the case, before you vote to condemn someone, you should be sure of your facts.

Barbara Kollerin wrote:So Alizon has been up for lynch and survived, eh? That explains why she's the one on frontal assault today. She clearly is trying to take the attention of the thread away from Karin since a lynch won't bother her.

Again, Karin charcterized her vote in the mary Eastey lynch as being NOT done at the time the baddies threw in the towel.

I ask you all to read for yourselves. Go back and find Mary's posts where she went bonkers and OBVIOUSLY gave up. Note the people TALKING IN THE THREAD AT THE TIME about how she had given up. And then note Karin's vote exactly one hour after Mary went bonkers.

Even if you think my initial post against Karin wasn't perfect, her response to it adds weight to my case! She voted EXACTLY at the time they threw in the towel. There is thread evidence for it. Please, read for yourself.

I'm on the frontal assault today because I'm a bad ass.

Do you know that shit's already been tried? "She's clearly trying to take away the attention of the thread today from so and so because she can't be lynched."

The thread's attention shouldn't be on someone just because YOU think it should be.

Pardon me, but how in the hell do you know exactly when they threw in the towel?

I looked at the post you're talking about (thanks for posting a link to what you are talking about).

Barbara Kollerin wrote:And then note Karin's vote exactly one hour after Mary went bonkers.

Karin voted at 12:06pm EST.

Mary's last post before that was at 9:09am.

That's a difference of about three hours.

You are making shit up.

Märet Jonsdotter wrote:

Alizon Device wrote:

Märet Jonsdotter wrote:Alizon, the case on Karin is not as strong as Barbara presents it to be nor as weak as you do.

I'm interested in hearing why you think this.

There were FAR weaker cases this game. She brings up good points about Karin never mentioning Mary, and then voting for her in a lynch that was likely to get her lynched. I think Barbara has exaggerated a bit, but her points aren't totally invalid.

Twelve people voted Mary that day. How many of them never mentioned Mary in any serious fashion before that day period? That's a terrible reason to vote Karin, especially without hearing from anybody, including the accused.

I think Babs is wild, desperate, misleading, and faulty in her thinking.

Jane Southworth wrote:Linki @ Malin:

It's a very cool story, The Monkey's Paw.

It's about being careful what you wish for.

Märet Jonsdotter wrote:Alizon, the case on Karin is not as strong as Barbara presents it to be nor as weak as you do.

I'm interested in hearing why you think this.