The Syndicate

I voted Hotel

Here's the thing, I know him better. And I don't 100% believe he is a civ, but I don't believe you are either. And I know him better, I have a much harder time thinking this is him. And I have a really hard time hearing his posts as anything other than sincere. If he has fooled me, well... I guess he's deserved it, but I don't think he is. I think it's pretty clear to you both I am a civ. And the fact you are playing to both of us tells me you are hedging your bets. I'm voting Bravo.

Fuck it.

*votes Bravo* final answer, I'm not coming back otherwise I'm going to keep changing my mind and I can't do this anymore.

*ignore the fact it was Alpha

Sorry, I'm really tired and mixed up the names.

*ignore the fact...

Well... meeeeehhhhhh. I just have to decide. I have been back and forth. One minute I feel like I can see one person as more likely to kill Alpha and the next I can see the other. I had told myself before the end of the last night that if I remained alive come dawn, then the last baddie must be Hotel. Because I was his only shot at staying alive. But I fully expected either myself or Bravo to die. I did not anticipate Alpha's death whatsoever. And it has sent me into a spiral of doubt. But I am going to ignore the fat it was Bravo and focus on the fact that it wasn't me. Given that, I'm going with my gut about the fact that my remaining alive implicated Hotel.

And if I am wrong, I'm so very sorry civs.

I'm voting Hotel.

No I'm moving back.

There seems more plausible explanation for Bravo to kill Alpha than Hotel. I don't see Golf going for the more difficult path, which is what this would be.

I'm voting Bravo.

Oh my god sprityo this end game is too stressful!

I am going to move my vote to Hotel.

And if you protected me last night, why straight out of the gate was your initial vote on me?

Bravo wrote: ↑Wed Dec 27, 2017 2:03 am I'm the doctor. This game has been infuriating, because I have repeatedly picked the right names to protect at the wrong times, and the mafia have done well to be hard to predict. These were my targets:

Night 1 - Alpha
Night 2 - Charlie
Night 3 - Alpha
Night 4 - Golf

I realize that there's no hard evidence for this now, but it's the truth. I'm putting it all out here to maximize the information we have. I can explain every protection target if needed.

Why would you have protected me last night?

Juliet wrote: ↑Thu Dec 14, 2017 10:28 am What's up town, it's Dr. J,
I brought along my vote and I'm here to stay.
You ask me if I'd want to lynch the letter K?
I tell you "Yesssir! After an and MIA".
Why not instead lynch the letter G?
Or better yet, toss your votes on the AWOL D?
A letter that's the furthest from what our eyes see,
Just like the moon at its apogee.

Juliet wrote: ↑Thu Dec 14, 2017 3:45 pm

Echo wrote: ↑Thu Dec 14, 2017 1:57 pm

Alpha wrote: ↑Thu Dec 14, 2017 1:11 pm Without any reliable flips in this game it's more important than ever for everyone to be pretty dang clear about why they're voting for who they're voting for.

Without any flips - reliable or unreliable - it will be harder than most other games to determine which voting reasons are genuine.

Hello friends, Dr. J is back
I saw this post, and I gotta react
I like your pause, I think it's got good tact
But reasons are reasons, scum will still slack
It's a game about the mind and a game about deceit
Take a seat, watch 'em speak, or accept defeat
If we talk and talk, keep 'em out on the street
We'll nab those wolves dead on their feet.

Juliet wrote: ↑Sun Dec 17, 2017 4:41 pm Sup y'all!!! Dr. J is back in the house.

My new album was not a hit, so I've left the music biz in pursuit of other things to grind my bling. But before I completely pack my bags, I'll address my critics.

Alpha wrote: ↑Thu Dec 14, 2017 4:17 pm

India wrote: ↑Thu Dec 14, 2017 4:09 pm

Juliet wrote: ↑Thu Dec 14, 2017 3:45 pm

Echo wrote: ↑Thu Dec 14, 2017 1:57 pm

Alpha wrote: ↑Thu Dec 14, 2017 1:11 pm Without any reliable flips in this game it's more important than ever for everyone to be pretty dang clear about why they're voting for who they're voting for.

Without any flips - reliable or unreliable - it will be harder than most other games to determine which voting reasons are genuine.

Hello friends, Dr. J is back
I saw this post, and I gotta react
I like your pause, I think it's got good tact
But reasons are reasons, scum will still slack
It's a game about the mind and a game about deceit
Take a seat, watch 'em speak, or accept defeat
If we talk and talk, keep 'em out on the street
We'll nab those wolves dead on their feet.

I dislike this post. It says nothing.

Juliet, rap is cool and fun and I'm glad you're doing it. It's also going to make it harder for you to communicate and harder for us to read you. I know this is maybe antithetical to your rap strategy but if you could include a tl;dr at the end of your rap verses I would appreciate it.

India is a blunt letter. An immediate response of antagonism, but pulling no punches. I like that.

Alpha on the other hand, came in with an ambivalent approach. Agreeing with India, yet being wishy-washy to the rhymes. Not cool! Additionally, Alpha was chilling around, laying other posts on the thread after my above-quoted track, with no response to yours truly. Bad jazz for you Alpha-friend.

Especially with the immediate agreement with India, and the immediate vote-vote.

Alpha wrote: ↑Thu Dec 14, 2017 4:25 pm I'd be okay with a Juliet vote.

And to answer Bravo-Man-Burrito:

Spoiler: show

Bravo wrote: ↑Thu Dec 14, 2017 4:34 pm

Juliet wrote: ↑Thu Dec 14, 2017 10:28 am What's up town, it's Dr. J,
I brought along my vote and I'm here to stay.
You ask me if I'd want to lynch the letter K?
I tell you "Yesssir! After an and MIA".
Why not instead lynch the letter G?
Or better yet, toss your votes on the AWOL D?
A letter that's the furthest from what our eyes see,
Just like the moon at its apogee.

Juliet, why do you feel it is prudent to prioritize an MIA lynch over a K lynch specifically?

Let the talkers keep talking and eliminate the quiet ones who may never answer your pleas.

Spoiler: show

India wrote: ↑Thu Dec 14, 2017 4:35 pm I have no issue with Juliet's choice to rap. I believe I inspired it.

Lack of content is lack of content.

The arrogance is strong in this one.

Spoiler: show

Foxtrot wrote: ↑Thu Dec 14, 2017 4:54 pm Also if we lynch the Oracle it's worthless anyways.

What do you think about someone claiming to be the Oracle?



Also, the guy who said this:

Spoiler: show

Alpha wrote: ↑Thu Dec 14, 2017 8:30 pm Next letter to complain about game mechanics will earn my eternal ire.

previously asked this:

Spoiler: show

Alpha wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2017 11:23 pm

sprityo wrote: ↑Mon Dec 11, 2017 6:27 pmThere is no reveal upon death of any kind

Hey wait so how do we do this? How do we..... anything?

Alpha's gotta go.



Also, I see India's dead. Amazing! He/she's a badass.

These were the posts that made me think she was pretending to be Dr. Wilgy.

Alpha wrote: ↑Thu Dec 14, 2017 7:36 pm I thought Dr. J was just a pun on Dr. Dre.

Apparently I was remembering incorrectly. I thought it was Juliet that cleared it up, but it was actually Alpha that pointed out the play on Dr. Dre. My apologies.

Ok, So I pretty much said the following:

I trusted Bravo the most
I varied between slight town read and slight baddie read of Hotel
I trusted Alpha the least

Why would Hotel kill Alpha and leave himself stuck in the game with me and the person I trusted the most? How would he benefit from this?

Same question regarding Bravo, why would he kill Alpha who I suspected the most knowing I trust himself the most and would easily vote alongside him for Alpha? How would it benefit him?

Bravo wrote: ↑Wed Dec 27, 2017 2:09 am

Golf wrote: ↑Wed Dec 27, 2017 12:52 am No I have changed my mind. Bravo. It must be Bravo. I would have bet my life it was Alpha after the game didn't end. The only way Hotel would have kept me alive was if he killed Bravo. He could have easily cruised to victory if he had killed Bravo.

I don't think this conclusion fits the progression of this game thread. Hotel kills me and is left with you and Alpha. You expressed suspicion of Alpha and Hotel as recently as the most recent day, so there's no "cruising" to be had there. I don't like that you're instantly discounting this possibility.

Golf wrote: ↑Wed Dec 27, 2017 12:52 amBut Bravo could have thought since I was so certain he was civ, to kill Alpha he could convince me of it being Hotel. This was a mistake, though. He should have killed either me or Hotel.

I'm voting Bravo, but I am certainly open to hearing things from both of you.

I asked you recently why you had those strong civilian reads on me and you did not answer me. They were unexplained and stuck into posts almost for the sake of it, and now you're here reversing that read at the very start of a LyLo phase with the other living player being the same guy that hounded my ass just one phase ago. The opportunism is visible.

It fits it perfectly actually, I have been more suspicious of Alpha than of Hotel since the beginning of the last Lynch. I won't deny suspecting Hotel as well, but why would he leave the only person in the game that I have expressed universal trust in?

As far as why I trust you, it was your actions. You were expressing reads, looking over interactions, looking at things very analytically. I am probably a victim of being the kind of person who trusts people who see things the same way as her, I can't deny that. I would say it's probably a combination of all of the above. I can't point at one thing in particular because it has been the overall feel of your whole game play.

I just can't get past this Alpha NK. Why Alpha? Why not me? I would make more sense than Alpha.

Oh also, to answer your comments regarding TMI, you are looking at them all wrong.

You first assumed something was up with me thinking it might be Wilgy. The reason why I thought that was straight forward. I jsut came out of playing a game with Wilgy where his play style was so normal for him it weirded me out. So it was forefront on my mind that normal Wilgy is probably bad Wilgy, and weird/jokey/schtick Wilgy is more likely civ. And I thought it was Wilgy, because he has been the most likely player to go to a schtick lately and also the raps made mention of Dr. J. I thought, that's weird why would Wilgy tell us who was behind his sock. Then I thought he wouldn't, this might be someone trying to LOOK like Wilgy. Why would they do that? Oh, because schticky Wilgy is usually civ. It looked suspicious to me. Juliet then explained the Dr. J thing was a play on Dr. Dre. I don't do rap, I didn't catch it. And she denied being Wilgy, so clearly she wasn't trying to look like Wilgy. Soooo... I dropped that.

Later Echo brought it up in a post with no mention of who said it or even quoting it. I just found it mildly annoying since it was incorrectly quoting the situation until you brought it back up (still without knowing who said it because you hadn't researched it yet). I was the one who volunteered that it was me and cleared up what I meant when I said it originally and that I dropped it. But you pointing out the fact he hadn't mentioned who said it made me wonder, why did he go about it that way? That was when I realized it was probably a tie between Juliet and Echo, for the reasons mentioned. See, I was on a team with someone once who did something similar. We had a teammate stuck in BTSC with a civ who told her something. She passed it on to us in our baddie BTSC. One of my teammates then mentioned it in thread because he forgot that it came up in our Baddie BTSC, not in the thread. It immediately outed half our team to that civ. Seeing how Echo commented on that looked exactly the same as the situation I just mentioned. It wasn't TMI, it was recognizing the red flags.

And that was why I came back around to Juliet. I truly am civ. If you are truly civ Bravo, lynching me will lose the game for us.

I leaned Hotel originally because I coudn't see why he wouldn't have killed me instead of Alpha. It would be easy to get me to lynch Alpha. But I am left with the same question regarding both of you. Why would you kill Alpha instead of Hotel, again I have made it pretty clear it is Alpha I was most tinfoiling over. So why am I alive right now?

I... am super concerned now.

I don't disagree with any of your points. But you are wrong in coming to the conclusion it is me.

Let's assume you and I are both civ, why would Hotel kill Alpha instead of you? Can you think through that scenario please and give me your thoughts?

No I have changed my mind. Bravo. It must be Bravo. I would have bet my life it was Alpha after the game didn't end. The only way Hotel would have kept me alive was if he killed Bravo. He could have easily cruised to victory if he had killed Bravo.

But Bravo could have thought since I was so certain he was civ, to kill Alpha he could convince me of it being Hotel. This was a mistake, though. He should have killed either me or Hotel.

I'm voting Bravo, but I am certainly open to hearing things from both of you.

Well... the baddie has done well in surprising me. I thought for sure it was Alpha.

I meant to come in just before the deadline and share my thoughts on what various kills would likely indicate, but I didn't because I was picking my sister up from the airport and forgot once she got here.

I would have bet money on my being killed. Because I believed it was Alpha and that is the most logical kill choice for a baddie Alpha.

Bravo seemed to indicate Hotel was his next choice after Delta, so to kill me makes the most sense if Alpha had been bad. He wasn't so this situation is irrelevant.

I believed that me being alive would indicate Hotel is bad. I'm his most likely shot to convince of anything because I've been the most inclined to give him the botd because I believed him to be civ. However, killing alpha doesn't make sense for Hotel since I have openly indicated that Bravo is my strongest town read. If he was bad, why would he not kill Bravo and cruise to victory knowing I have been very suspicious of Alpha for some time due to his actions in the last lynch? The Alpha kill does not support Hotel being the baddie here. Unless he believed he could convince Bravo I am bad.

I didn't see any reason why any of you would kill Hotel, so I doubted that would even happen.

So that brings me to Bravo, who would be Bravo's most logical kill? I didn't know in that case, and didn't expect it to even be an issue, but here I am now faced with answering that question. I believed the most likely kill for Hotel would be Bravo, but that didn't happen. I have been pretty up front about the fact that Hotel is my next suspect after Alpha. And in my belief that Bravo is civ. I could see a scenario where the baddie is either of you now!

I hate you both. I am leaning Hotel at the moment. But I feel far from confident atm...

My current thoughts:

I didn't like the way Hotel went hard after Bravo, it felt like scum trying to cast as much shade around as possible. Franky it made me pause, and in combination with feeling like for a while there Alpha may have actually been just a tinfoil townie it kind of made me feel way more wary of him. But now Alpha is trending back towards this let's lynch Golf or Hotel thing. Which I really hate because lynching any civ other than Delta will likely make this game a civ loss. There is a chance Hotel is bad, but I am not bad. Lynching me will net the civs a loss.

I am assuming your focus on a pair of active baddies is the caution you have been discussing, Alpha. However, I am still of the opinion that if there are two living baddies (which is absolutely possible) it is most likely that Delta is one of them.

I just cannot in anyway imagine Bravo being bad, and from the way you and Hotel have behaved I don't see you as teammates either. Your only risk here is basically me and Hotel but I am not bad. And again, if you look at all the possibilities the greatest risk is in leaving Delta alive. There is only one circumstance in which lynching Delta ends the game and I am 100% confident it's not the case.

I'm clearly not moving my vote.

As for tomorrow, if Delta's lynch doesn't end the game I am looking equally at Hotel or Alpha right now. This is based totally upon today's actions/conversations.

Hotel going after Bravo is a bad look imo...

But the numbers still support a Delta lynch. I'm not moving.

Alpha wrote: ↑Sun Dec 24, 2017 12:34 am 2 currently living and active mafia members is the worst case scenario and lynching Delta is the number one way to not be prepared for it.

It feels really sketchy that Golf and Hotel seem to be so against considering that the other might be mafia at such a crucial time in the game.

I have not said I 100% feel like Hotel is town. I have said that by the numbers the right lynch today is Delta.

Alpha wrote: ↑Sun Dec 24, 2017 3:18 am @Golf Does your suspecting Delta rely on me being a teammate of theirs, or could Delta be a lone wolf?

I haven't said it was dependent at all. In fact I have said repeatedly that my first line of thought (because I want to trust you here, I really do) is that Delta is the last baddie. But I find the fact you are pushing a lynch of an unknown active over an unknown inactive. The risk in the first is one scenario, whereas the risk in the second is like two or three times as much, just going by how many scenarios lead to end game for us if we lynch anyone other than him. That is what makes me suspicious of you. I know my role, I know that I'm not bad. I think it's highly unlikely Bravo is bad. I used to think that if you too until your recent push. I don't think Hotel is bad but I'm not 100% confident in that. But I highly doubt he's on a team with you so I am left with Delta being the absolute right choice. He's either lone baddie or he has a deep wolf teammate. Before today I would have said Hotel, your actions this day phase make me really question you now though.

Alpha wrote: ↑Sun Dec 24, 2017 3:33 am

golf wrote:The absolute only risk here is if two people are bad and neither one is Delta, I just really don't see that as likely no matter how I dice it. Actions do not support that theory.

I guess my problem with this is exactly that. If you and Hotel are mafia then you'd want to push exactly this narrative, because if neither of you (in that circumstance) gets lynched today then this game is yours. The alternative to lynching Delta would be convincing Bravo or me to vote for the other, which would be significantly harder so.... Delta. Right? In the scenario where you and Hotel are the last living mafias, I believe that would be the best move, or at least it's what I would do.

And my problem with you right now is you are pushing a very illogical and risky lynch. I know you don't know my role if you are civ, but I do and that is why I am sure of this fact. And if you are the deep wolf you've got to paint Hotel and I as bad because you might have to convince Bravo or the other one of us that it's the other person. So I am I the same place you are. I really want to believe you are tinfoiling but you are making it really hard.

Alpha wrote: ↑Sun Dec 24, 2017 1:07 am

golf wrote:1. 4 players left
2. 2 baddies and 2 civs.
3. They kill one during night, bringing it down to 2 to 1. Game over.

I want to be clear, avoiding this exact scenario is my #1 priority for today. In any other scenario we get a second chance if we get it wrong today, so I'm playing under the assumption that we have two left, because if we don't prepare ourselves for that then that's how we lose.

I'm not disagreeing that there might be two left, I'm saying I look at all the players and I think that while I could be wrong about one I highly doubt I'm that far off about two which is why I think if there are two it's highly likely that Delta is one. If I am wrong then it means that either Bravo or Hotel have me fooled.

I haven't been talking about Juliet, we have no info on her so discussing her is irrelevant. I am looking at the people in the game right now and assessing them by their actions.

I can tell you why I have Hotel as a slightly town lean, but you won't like it. I believe I know who it is and I'm pretty confident (though not 100%) that this is their town game. It is a fairly nebulous response, it won't make you feel any better about us as possible teammates. But I am not bad. So in light of that fact, I reiterate that our truly safest route today is lynching Delta. The absolute only risk here is if two people are bad and neither one is Delta, I just really don't see that as likely no matter how I dice it. Actions do not support that theory.

The only way that voting Delta would be the end of the gave is if there are two mafia still living and Delta isn't one of them. And I know I'm civ. I believe strongly that Bravo is civ and to a lesser extent Hotel. Until you started pushing this plan to vote someone other than Delta, I would have trusted you more than Hotel but you leap frogged past him. I am of the belief that either Delta is a lone baddie, Delta is a baddie with an active teammate, or Delta is civ and there is one living active baddie. I think it is unlikely there are two baddies and neither one is Delta. If that is the case we are screwed, because someone has fooled me extremely well and frankly they would deserve a win. I don't think it's the case though. You are trying too hard to push us a certain direction. Either Delta is a lone baddie and you are tinfoiling, which to be clear is my first line of thought, or you or to a lesser extent possibly Hotel are Delta's teammate.

Lmao, nonthere usnt. After this game I will definitely be setting up some protections to prevent this in the future.

I'm voting Delta.

They were my posts from the wrong account. One was just saying I have some pretty serious concerns I wanted to get out there before the votes start coming in and telling you what my plans were so when I would be back to get them into the thread. And the second was :sighs: because I realized I posted from the wrong account.

Ok, here is my problem with trying to lynch someone we believe might be a baddie teammate with Delta.

1. Five players left.
2. At least one baddie, maybe 2.
3. Max 4 civs, possibly only 3.

Let's say Delta is bad and has a deep wolf teammate. What happens if we lynch the wrong person?

1. 4 players left
2. 2 baddies and 2 civs.
3. They kill one during night, bringing it down to 2 to 1. Game over.

Let's say Delta is civ and there is a deep wolf. What happens if we lynch the wrong person?

1. 4 players left
2. 1 baddie and 2 civs.
3. DELTA IS INACTIVE, so we should assume he won't vote! That brings it down to 1 baddie vote and 1 civ vote.
4. Deep wolf has set up a perfect mislynch of Delta, game over.

Let's say Delta is baddie and has no teammates alive. What happens if we vote the wrong person?

I won't go through the step by step here, basically best case scenario is we see no kill and so we go ahead and lynch Delta. Worst case is Delta comes in and submits some kind of kill or other and we are in the same position tomorrow as today, wondering if we should lynch an active player because we must have gotten the wrong one yesterday.

Let's say Delta is civ and we lynch him today. What happens?

1. 4 players left
2. 1 baddie, 3 civs (all active)
3. Baddie kills someone (giving us some kind of information to go on)
4. We go into the next day phase with 1 baddie vs. 2 civs (both active)

Our absolute best and I believe only option here is to vote Delta. We can't risk the first two scenarios by leaving a likely inactive player in the game.

Frankly Alpha, I am concerned by the fact you are pushing this plan to vote someone other than Delta. I am inclined to think Delta is our last baddie, but if I am wrong I'm looking at you for deep wolf.

No, my day 1 vote went to Kilo.

Also I am unsure what you mean about Foxtrot? That post was about how Foxtrot handled India I thought. By the time that was going on Foxtrot had backed off me and had tried to convince me to vote India with him. Unless I'm getting mixed up.

Ok, so clearly we still have at least one baddie out here.

Uh was that a baddie concession?

No wonder I have no impression of him, he only has three posts.

Placing a vote on Juliet, going to go back and read through Delta because I have no impression of them whatsoever.

My concern is there isn't much opposition to thislynch. Unless she is a lone baddie left now or her team mate is bussing her.

I doubt I will be the one to die tonight, because I haven't done any hunting in the last cycle at all so I'm not a threat and I have drawn some attention. But if I do die, I think I would also say, lynch Juliet. I'm thinking the reason it might have come up in BTSC was because it was about one of them.

Ok, I read over the last four pages to make sure I understood everything that occurred since Echo's death.

Bravo you commented on Echo's post about this crap about Juliet being Wilgy. It was me that posted, but it was not what I actually said. What I had originally said was that Juliet's posts in rap gave my the impression of Juliet possibly being Wilgy. And if it was true it would make me inclined to see Juliet as more town, because the behavior in my mind was more in line with how a town Wilgy would act. But if it were not Wilgy it would make me feel like someone was trying to look like a town leaning Wilgy. Juliet came in and clarified some of what made me think all this and it is no longer relevant. I've dismissed that line of thought as a result.

So it was me he was talking about. I assume he didn't say anything about me specifically because he didn't remember who said it. However, that would make me feel like they may have discussed it in BTSC. Otherwise he would have commented on it when he first read it, if it stood out to him. Which makes me wonder why that might be the case.

Alpha wrote: ↑Mon Dec 18, 2017 3:08 pm

Golf wrote: ↑Mon Dec 18, 2017 2:26 pmI don't appreciate you going on and on about how awful I and others are for saying outright what we see as a balance issue. Etc. Etc. Etc.

I haven't gone on and on about anything. Juliet was the one who brought it back up, and I needed to clarify things because they were acting like I was making things up.

I've been personally done with the subject since the end of day 1. I brought it up in the first place because I didn't feel like the negativity had any purpose other than to make sprityo feel bad. I probably went a little over the top with hyperbole calling the behavior "whining", and I'm sorry for that, but it seemed like the thread was going down a bad path and I wasn't okay with that. I didn't like that players were saying they weren't going to care about the game or take it seriously because there weren't any flips. I also didn't like that it seemed to be bothering sprityo.

I actually just.... don't really care about this topic, if you're here to play mafia then let's play mafia.

Cool. I am indeed here to play mafia, so I am in nothing but agreement with you. I apologize for getting frustrated about it.

Now I'm going to eat lunch and I will try to look over everything in the thread again in light of recent events. Also, sorry I am a little discombobulated from my absence.

Oh wait, I remember now, we have a confirmed baddie in Echo, correct?

*votes Echo*

Alpha wrote: ↑Sun Dec 17, 2017 5:02 pm Also there's a significant difference between being dismayed at there being no info flips and flipping the table over and complaining there was no point in playing because we aren't being rewarded with information.

I'm sorry if you think I was being whiny, I've had discussions with Sprityo behind the scenes and made it clear to him that while my opinion is this is a severely civ handicapping element, I vote for flips but would defer to him if he felt like doing so would break his game. I don't appreciate you going on and on about how awful I and others are for saying outright what we see as a balance issue. I am entitled to my opinion and I have been nothing but supportive of whatever Sprityo believes is best for his game while still being honest about my evaluation of the balance. Clearly others think like you and I am fine with it, but I would appreciate if you would move on from continuing to make it a personal attack on me and any one else who stated what they believed to be a problematic mechanic. I am not a whiner and I don't appreciate you continuing to call me names basically. Stop it, or we can take it to the mod.

I apologize to the players and host for my recent absence in the last 48 hours, I have been extremely busy and not getting enough sleep. I just didn't have the time. But I am back now. Please don't take this personally Sprityo and bear with us, this is the holiday season and it might be hard to be as active as normal.

Where are we at here? Are we actually still in Day 2? If so, I'm self voting.

*votes Golf*

India wrote: ↑Thu Dec 14, 2017 11:36 pm @Foxtrot Would my alignment depend on the alignment of Golf?

That is a weird question to ask. You know if you are scum or not, just like I know I am not scum. And if there are not flips, what impact does that question have? Unless it makes a difference for how you vote as far as whether or not to be in favor of flips. Why does this question even matter, what is your angle?

Alpha wrote: ↑Thu Dec 14, 2017 11:35 pm I fell asleep.

Did anyone peep the end of day phase poll with their eyeballs who can tell me what it looked like? Was it still a tie or did Kilo receive a majority of votes?

Kilo received the majority. I don't know what the vote counts were, but he had four maybe? I had 2 and I think Charlie had 2, a couple others had one. I don't remember who all though. India had 1.

India wrote: ↑Thu Dec 14, 2017 11:35 pm It appears that I missed an entire page before posting that.

Rest in peace, K. Those who lynched you are probably scum. I see nothing in your posts worth the animosity.

So you would not find it suspicious if Kilo had voted for you because he was "not leaving it up to chance" but then turned around and questioned the sincerity and reasoning of someone else voting for you, but left his vote parked on you even so? That was what led me to vote Kilo.

Foxtrot wrote: ↑Thu Dec 14, 2017 11:08 pm You flatter me Golf. What are your thoughts on Alpha?

I have literally zero thoughts on Alpha.

Foxtrot wrote: ↑Thu Dec 14, 2017 11:03 pm

Golf wrote: ↑Thu Dec 14, 2017 10:58 pm He basically was saying India was suspicious because her response to me was, "Catch up with the thread" which ftr was pointless because I was completely caught up. I was simply stating the couple things that stood out to me. Right or wrong, that was how Juliet read to me at the time. Did I sum that up pretty accurately, Fox?

Close. Being honest I didn't know if you were caught up or not. It was irrelevant.

India's interaction with you G was completely disgenuine. India's reaction to me calling that disgenuine was also disgenuine and did not stem from a positive Civ mindset.

I find you one of the more trustworthy players right now.

He basically was saying India was suspicious because her response to me was, "Catch up with the thread" which ftr was pointless because I was completely caught up. I was simply stating the couple things that stood out to me. Right or wrong, that was how Juliet read to me at the time. Did I sum that up pretty accurately, Fox?

Voted Charlie

Moved my vote again for self preservation. Though it is tempting to just leave it up to chance because I'm not invested, it's also not fair to the other civs to intentionally put myself in the noose.

And mistaken. I have no btsc with anyone and I'm not bad, but you've already decided I do and am. Buddy buddy arguments are tenuous at best.

Foxtrot wrote: ↑Thu Dec 14, 2017 7:39 pm

India wrote: ↑Thu Dec 14, 2017 7:30 pm

Golf wrote: ↑Thu Dec 14, 2017 7:18 pm I'm also concerned about the fact that Juliet is trying to imply they are Dr. Wilgy. Why? If it is Wilgyi would be inclined to think he is good, but if it is not actually Wilgy, I am inclined to think they are trying to appear as Wilgy to look more benign.

I do not know why you would assume that, or what relevance it would have on the alignment of Juliet.
Catch up on your reading. I was the one who suggested gimmicks, and Juliet is following that, I think.

I am employing a gimmick as well, though a subtle one.

Why did you feel the need to say this? Isn't it implied that Golf would?

Baddie team is GIK or JIG

Thing-a-ma-JIG

So you get no information and you set up two more lynches based on lynching me, all while getting no results? You know what, please do lynch me. This game with no flips severely handicaps the civs. I do not wish to invest more time into a game I very likely cannot win.

No I am not bad. But frankly I joined this game to help fill the game out, so lynch me if you want. I won't cry over it, especially given the fact that there are no flips. I think it's unlikely the civs can possibly win this so whatever. I'm pretty uninvested.

Also, why would I distance from teammates like that if there are no flips? This is what I was trying to decide about Kilo...

India wrote: ↑Thu Dec 14, 2017 7:30 pm

Golf wrote: ↑Thu Dec 14, 2017 7:18 pm I'm also concerned about the fact that Juliet is trying to imply they are Dr. Wilgy. Why? If it is Wilgyi would be inclined to think he is good, but if it is not actually Wilgy, I am inclined to think they are trying to appear as Wilgy to look more benign.

I do not know why you would assume that, or what relevance it would have on the alignment of Juliet.
Catch up on your reading. I was the one who suggested gimmicks, and Juliet is following that, I think.

I am employing a gimmick as well, though a subtle one.

It's more than a gimmick, she has referred to herself as Dr. J.