The Syndicate

The Dry Flood wrote: ↑Sun Jul 15, 2018 4:59 pm I could see this as deliberate hiding of a double vote power. Something is ringing a bell with me here regarding epi in Night Vale. He may have had the same power there. Just noting this in case someone gets a look and I can’t.

1-shot doublevote! It's completely optional, and doesn't need to be hidden. This case is built on false info.

I am personally leaning toward believable to the case on Cupheads (dunno about my other head) but notice that they did not try to vote for somebody else out of self-preservation yet.

Fratyo wrote: ↑Sun Jul 15, 2018 5:20 pm Also, i'm gonna follow you on whereever you go today between Colin/Galactic/Cuphead, but this is important for me to know in case we live another phase and you're dead or something

Fratyo is perfectly content to vote any of these 3, because they have no reads, because they are scum.

Dry Flood, why is Fratyo town?

Since we are seemingly not in a doublevoter world, is there any reason to vote C&M over Galactic Mac?

linki: hi other head

The Dry Flood wrote: ↑Sun Jul 15, 2018 5:07 pm

ColinIsSpeed wrote: ↑Wed Jul 11, 2018 5:16 pm I think I’m gonna vote for DrSloogy. The 2 Dog characterization of Sloonei is reasonable and we were all on the same scum team in Ancient Greece when we saw some similar kind of voting (it reminds one of us the most of Sloonei’s vote for Colin in it, actually, although the circumstances were not identical.)

This one. Don’t like it.

In what part of this do you see “hedging”? There is the “although” but it does nothing to distort my meaning here.

I note that Galactic Mac did not claim.

The Dry Flood wrote: ↑Sat Jul 14, 2018 8:18 pm I agree with the plan to claim. We are at MYLO.

A note - if we are in the ninja setup, it behooves scum to claim town doublevoter. So we can’t rely on it entirely. But it would give us a very solid basis on which to generate reads.

I’m vanilla town.

I was going to reveal that after we did the thing. Now it's gonna skew results more.
:/

Vanilla tooown

Lunatella wrote: ↑Sat Jul 14, 2018 9:56 am

Fratyo wrote: ↑Fri Jul 13, 2018 6:58 pm

Lunatella wrote: ↑Fri Jul 13, 2018 6:57 pm WAIT. Lynching me is not a good idea.

is that a claim? Fast

I'm gonna try to CFD Mac if it is

I feel like fratyo has to be town after this. Why else would they care if a townie (me) was lynched? If for some reason fratyo is mafia, then I would bet that the three-way tie was only between townies.

Fractal did the EXACT SAME THING to me in Courage. You may have been there. He was bad then too.

If double vote, no lynch would be bad

In case my previous post was confusing:

Role claiming gives us the setup. Either we have double voters, or a mafia ninja.

If ninja, we can no lynch if desired. We'll also get info on Dry Flood and Lunatella.

If doublevoter, we can get info that way.

There is a caveat, but I will share that if we decide to do this.

I won't be able to post much today, but...

Things we should be talking about:

What is a 1-shot ninja? Is it the anti-tracking method I am used to?

If so, should we roleclaim to see if we have the double voter? This might effect reads on Dry Flood and Lunatella, since they genuinely had reason to believe ninjas are extra kills.

We should not no lynch if there is a double voter on scum team. Good to know for that reason as well. And also the double vote for town can basically clear himself.

Double check the rules for me please on this. I am hardly here.

I’m cutting down trees for the foreseeable future so don’t expect a lot from me for now. But.

[VOTE: FRATYO] aubergine

The Dry Flood wrote: ↑Fri Jul 13, 2018 9:47 pm OK. That makes sense as an interpretation of ninja. Where I was from vigilantes were called ninjas. And it's not entirely unusual to see a mafia one, although I admit it seemed imbalanced to me. If you're in world 4, what's the value of an untrackable shot? Just a decoy?

I assumed it was just there for the tracker if you have it, and it's a decoy role if in 4.

The Dry Flood wrote: ↑Fri Jul 13, 2018 9:56 pm If you want evidence that I did not previously know this was what ninja is, check out what I called it on my role-madness matrix (Invisible Man). I've always used ninja/vig interchangeably.

That's fair. I'll take it as NAI.

Lunatella, on the other hand, needs to tell us where they encountered ninjas before. Is nutella from the same place as you? (whoever you are?)

Lunatella wrote: ↑Fri Jul 13, 2018 9:28 pm

ColinIsSpeed wrote: ↑Fri Jul 13, 2018 7:02 pm Lunatella I was saving you why

Why did you try to save me when you were voting me earlier?

headssssssss

Lunatella wrote: ↑Fri Jul 13, 2018 9:22 pm ughhh lame eod and lame result. :\

speed, i'm also used to "ninja" just meaning "vigilante" but seeing that there could be a mafia "ninja" your explanation makes much more sense, i think golden probably didn't realize that

Stupid auto-login.

What head?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jul 11, 2018 11:06 pm

ColinIsSpeed wrote: ↑Wed Jul 11, 2018 9:18 pm

I AMMMMMM LISTENINGGGG TO HEAR WHERE YOOOOOOOOU AAAAAAAAAARE

https://soundcloud.com/joe-mccord-31025459

This is really nice Mac!

ColinIsSpeed wrote: ↑Fri Jul 13, 2018 7:00 pm [VOTE: Fratyo] aubergine

My other head is apparently sheeping my opinion, which is not cool because I haven't been around.

I feel like Lunatella is not a bad candidate although the behavior at EOD gives me slight pause. That + your feelings make me feel okay about it. The interesting dynamic about this game is that I know we’re both town (because we’re one, but not the same, ‘member) so I can take your feelings and thoughts into consideration as 100% legitimate.

Fratyo why do you look so similar in fending off Golden as you did in fending off me in Courage

Fratyo wrote: ↑Fri Jul 13, 2018 7:10 pm

The Dry Flood wrote: ↑Fri Jul 13, 2018 7:08 pm

Fratyo wrote: ↑Fri Jul 13, 2018 7:07 pm Just so you know, if i'm scum i always swap to Rimworld there to 100% live myself, but I didn't because I thought he was town (especially after he didn't vote me)

Those last few minutes didn't give anyone a clear shot at knowing what would save them.

It was 2-2-2 for a while and then 2 people swapped places and it stayed 2-2-2? Anyway, im pretty sure it was obvious RImworld would have more votes than Lutella if i swapped.

Is this incorrect?

Luna was on 3, you were on 2, Rimworld on 1.

I swapped from Luna to you. At the same time, they switched to Rimworld.

From 3 - 2 - 1 to 2 - 2 - 2

The Dry Flood wrote: ↑Fri Jul 13, 2018 7:31 pm

Fratyo wrote: ↑Fri Jul 13, 2018 7:19 pm Btw, it isn't possible to vote no-lynch on this site right? Because we're 6 alive tomorrow (Mylo) confirmed in a setup without a doctor. So it would be better for us if we sleep tomorrow so Scum has to remove another person and we have better chances of hitting scum while 5 alive. But if we can't no-lynch except by not voting at all, then scum can always snipe last second, so it won't work

We might have a ninja so it’s a bad idea anyway

Do you know what a ninja is?

I would have preferred Luna not moving their vote.

Lunatella I was saving you why

Oh good god it's a three-way?

[VOTE: Fratyo] aubergine

My other head is apparently sheeping my opinion, which is not cool because I haven't been around.

I agree with my other head for now.

[VOTE: LUNATELLA] aubergine

ColinIsSpeed wrote: ↑Thu Jul 12, 2018 10:37 am Oh lol my other head suspects Fractyo.

. . .

Question for those that played Courage (my other head included, maybe): do you see similarities between Fratyo’s behavior here and Fractal’s play there especially re: behavior around the end of day? I’m not made up one way or another.

It’s also worth noting that sprit was scum in Retro with me so people from that game should remember that performance in evaluating the hydra.

Oh lol my other head suspects Fractyo.

. . .

I actually like some of Rimworld Boyz' posts, but 2 Stupid Dogs scumread them. I generally trust the gut and hunting abilities of both stupid dogs.

Need to reconcile that.

Dunno how to feel about M Plus 1 in the lynch. We don't see much to sway us one way or another. We liked the way they responded when we poked and prodded on early day one though.

Rimworld Boyz wrote: ↑Wed Jul 11, 2018 9:04 pm speedchuck are you in a mafia in this game? you're legally required to tell me the truth :/

I am not.

Lunatella wrote: ↑Wed Jul 11, 2018 7:04 pm

DrSloogy wrote: ↑Wed Jul 11, 2018 7:02 pm Those three late votes on us were shady. Fratyo’s mistake about the scum total is shady. Look at those people.

MP is town. The rimworld boyz are town. I feel good about the dogs.

Sorry wilgy.

I stand by my vote. The galactic cfd was the shittiest idea I've ever seen

Doubling down before the reveal, but after the vote. This post has no purpose other than to make Lunatella look unaware of the flip results.

2 Stupid Dogs wrote: ↑Thu Jul 12, 2018 6:18 am ColinIsSpeed, speed is a lazy scum these days sorry, and comes through here. he always takes the back seat and lets others in the thread do the heavy lifting, especially early on. Colin's tone with MP lacked some sincerity. wouldn't call them w/w.

:flippingbirdemoji:

Not even going to pretend I'm Colin here.

My laziness is entirely dependent of real-life circumstances, burnout, and the role I receive. If you look back, you'll find my participation as scum and as town to be completely uncorrelated with activity level. As for my schedule, I have led two different Bible classes this week, one in my own home. Both were on subject matter that I have never studied. I've been working extra hours so that I can take less vacation next week, and I have a deadline today to deal with. I have more guests coming in, and while I'm exceedingly happy to have them, it also compounds how busy my week is.

And this game has been going for only two days.

The only reason I signed up for this game, and none of the other games that are in sign-ups, is because I'd have a teammate to pick up my slack. I would be perturbed if Colin gets thrown under the bus because of my slow participation.

Anyway.

I'm still feeling Fratyo as town. I agree with 2 Stupid Dogs that Rimworld Boyz are worth looking into. I actually do not have a town read on Lunatella any longer, and they have demonstrated an awareness of their own meta, and a willingness to conform to it. That's not a strong scumread, but I haven't given them any credit for their approach to the game.

RIP to the pups, but it ain’t us.

2 Stupid Dogs wrote: ↑Thu Jul 12, 2018 6:27 am I'd say at least 1 is on DrSloogy, and 1 is elsewhere.

Rimworld Boyz missed the vote.

Considering what I know--DrSloogy flipped town and 2 Stupid Dogs are town.

That leaves: Fratyo, Rimworld Boyz, Cuphead and Mugman

considering the fact that DrSloogy was town, I'm finding it hard to see a motive for Fractal to have tried to move the vote off of DrSloogy. If he knew DrSloogy was town, why would he want to do that? At that point, ColinIsSpeed, M Plus 1, Galactic Mac and 2 Stupid Dogs were all on DrSloogy.

this actually changes my read on Fratyo slightly.

FYI, Fractal did the same thing in Courage a few times as scum, at one point switching the vote from me to Vompatti for no reason other than to make people say “why would a scum do that?”

Fratyo wrote: ↑Thu Jul 12, 2018 12:20 am First off I’m gonna address the CFd (which I could’ve sworn we wanted to call something different because it’s kinda a bad term).

I’m not sure why my counterpart all of s sudden did what they did because it was looking very good and agreeable up until that point in contrast to yknow. My bullshittery shouting at the pulpit to gain supporters familiarity in the thread.

Where exactly people thought it was a GOOD idea to lynch the late DrPepper is what I’m gonna investigate

I HATE this move you’re pulling with “well I don’t know why my counterpart did that!” If you’re scum it is such a convenient way for you to deny any and all responsibility for bad actions and it looks forced here to me. Bad!

Alright folks your turn. Play us something sad and sweet and slow.

YOU HAD A NEW DREAM IT WAS MOOOORE LIKE A NIGHTMARE YOU WERE JUST A LITTLE KID AND THEY CUT YOUR HAIR AND THEY STUCK YOU IN MACHINES YOU CAME SO CLOSE TO DYING THEY DIDN’T LISTEN THEY THOUGHT THAT YOU WERE LYING

This isn’t one that you sing along with but rather just kinda look into your drink and sigh and think about stuff. Like the movie Magnolia.

I AMMMMMM LISTENINGGGG TO HEAR WHERE YOOOOOOOOU AAAAAAAAAARE

WE’RE ONEEEEE BUT WE’RE NOT THE SAME!! AND WE HUUUUURT EACH OTHER AND WE’RE DOING IT AGAIN

Instead of explaining why I’m not scum, I’m going to pretend I’m doing tipsy kareoke so please imagine I’m singing these topical songs

2 Stupid Dogs wrote: ↑Wed Jul 11, 2018 9:10 pm Speedchuck seems to have somehow been absorbed into the ColinIsCool personality, perhaps through drunk osmosis

I’m a bad influence

Rimworld Boyz wrote: ↑Wed Jul 11, 2018 9:07 pm

ColinIsSpeed wrote: ↑Wed Jul 11, 2018 9:04 pm People have called us scum all game without substantiating it and it’s dumb. If you’re gonna try to lynch us come at us with a reason you peons

you haven't mentioned your quindar like 76 times in this game so far so is it safe to assume that colin is doing all the work and speedchuck is sitting back sipping on a margarita or something?

I can’t speak for speed’s Quindar but Colin is unsure how to feel about you. Who are your top suspects?

2 Stupid Dogs wrote: ↑Wed Jul 11, 2018 9:05 pm

ColinIsSpeed wrote: ↑Wed Jul 11, 2018 9:00 pm Guess what folks one of these heads has had some bourbon and is BUZZED and doesn’t remember anything that just happened

Hello handsome. Mind if we join you?

Smoke ‘em if ya got ‘em, pups

People have called us scum all game without substantiating it and it’s dumb. If you’re gonna try to lynch us come at us with a reason you peons

Guess what folks one of these heads has had some bourbon and is BUZZED and doesn’t remember anything that just happened

The Dry Flood wrote: ↑Wed Jul 11, 2018 5:12 pm

ColinIsSpeed wrote: ↑Tue Jul 10, 2018 4:04 pm Is quiet The Dry Flood usually bad? Ha.

I had a paradox meltdown at this meta question.

I think I’m gonna vote for DrSloogy. The 2 Dog characterization of Sloonei is reasonable and we were all on the same scum team in Ancient Greece when we saw some similar kind of voting (it reminds one of us the most of Sloonei’s vote for Colin in it, actually, although the circumstances were not identical.)

Rimworld Boyz wrote: ↑Wed Jul 11, 2018 4:59 pm

DrSloogy wrote: ↑Wed Jul 11, 2018 4:51 pm I still think we should be voting CollinisSpeed...

plz expand?

Agree