The Syndicate

Scotty 2 wrote:Ok, I'm here and ready to get my head in the game. I am super behind so I have no idea what has been going on. I apologize to my dear hostess's for putting up with me and thank you for your understanding. I'm going to start by reading the host posts and see who has died. I had to check the first page to see if I was still alive.

Lipsticklacey 2 wrote:Also you made a mistake a few posts ago; at least a z was not included. And I am pretty confident I can outpost you. So we could both just stop now, to make things easier. Just a thought.

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Epignosis 2 wrote:Where is the argument for a Dom lynch? This seemed to just have kinda popped up.

Cookie 2 wrote:

Cobalt 2 wrote:If Black Rock was town, genuinely town, I'd question why the executed jumped on Cookie, like she was the Grand Vizier of Cookies.

When did this happen, Cobalt? Can you point it out to me?

And tbh, based on gameplay, I still think Golden was the real tracker. But I could see him fooling me as well.

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Black Rock 2 wrote:Ok let me test my understanding of my thread read:

LC2 is being suspected because it is perceived by some that he was pushing a Synonym lynch. In his defense he pointed out that he had just been repeating himself because people had been bringing up his reasons and he had been responding.

Synonym is being suspected because it is perceived by some that the things LC2 were pushing (or not) on were true, including his being a baddie for naming 5 names with no other explanation as being mafia. Synonym's defense of this is that he was just calling out names in a trolling sense and not serious about them.

I can't figure out why Sig is suspected so I will read through just his posts and see if I can find something, or maybe one of you who suspect him can tell me why.

At this point, without any additional information it seems like both LC2 and Synonym 2 could be civs. I am though, having a hard time discerning whether Syn 2's reaction to all this is cornered baddie or genuinely frustrated civ.

I feel sure there are nuances or other facts that i am missing in this relationship between the two or about one of them so please add on anything you think I got twisted or missed.

Black Rock 2 wrote:Speaking of voting, I am really torn about Long Con 2. As I said earlier I thought he offered a genuine or believable defense of himself but that defense did not extend to explaining how he had avoided being lynched twice.

Long Con 2 wrote:I don't have time to elaborate further until later but I wanted to get something out there. I want to prove to my fellow civs that I can be trusted. Hopefully this will at least foster discussion and I will be back later to converse as well.

I know I have said that I would try to stop playing defense and pay offense instead. I am starting off my suspicions with SVS. I know it my sound as if I am only targeting her because she has been targeting me, but oh well. She is tunneling and I it makes her look bad.

My next suspicion is blooper. She has two posts in the whole game. There is a small number of players participating in the thread. Some of the mafia must be inactive and she seems like a perfect candidate in my opinion.

Lastly, full disclosure, I am still on the fence about Syn. My thoughts of him were that he could have slipped and really knows there are five mafia. I thought his initial reaction was genuine, but that his posts quickly turned sketchy.

Linki: I wish you would have waited. However, I would still like your input on my thoughts.

Long Con 2 wrote:

Black Rock 2 wrote:
I thought it was quite odd that blooper 2 had only posted once and then her next post was to ask me when I would be finished reading the thread. I thought at the time maybe she had posted a lot of her thoughts and was pushing me to post mine. Well, she may have been pushing me but she had not posted any thoughts about anyone. Blooper 2, I'd like to know why that was your only meaningful post in the game?

Right, like she was trying to look like a good civilian participant.

@Bass - Why?

Blooper 2 wrote:Will you catch up tonight and in the morning.

Cookie 2 wrote:I know I have been flogging the "civ/civ" horse pretty hard, but even i am having a hard time thinking either of you are civ at this point, LC & Syn. Especially you, Syn, since you & Sig both seem to know something about the Day One lynch that the rest of us don't.

Synonym 2 wrote:Just so you know, this is almost a mirror image of Bullets over Broadway mafia except with sock accounts.

Some of my off-site peeps know who I am, esp the real Synonym, so let me just say - in BoB I was right about Long Con the entire game, switched a lynch onto him on Day Two but someone pardoned it, he got lynched as scum down the line but I got lynched for being scummy anyway. Was town.

This game, I was right about Long Con the entire game, pardoned my OWN lynch when it came to a tie between the two of us, and Long Con goes down 2 phases later as guess what? Scum. And I'm, guess what? Town.

Either roll with it or get me the hell out of this game. Because I'm not dealing with bullshit anymore.

Cobalt 2 wrote:

Long Con 2 wrote:I was joking about being unlynchable. And yes, I am claiming the latter. Every time I get the most votes, I have a chance of being lynched. As for who gets lynched instead of me, I was not given this information. I am guessing it may go to the person with the second most votes. TGG was up 2 votes on Day 2's tally, tied with Syn and MM. But of course I cannot be sure. It may have nothing to do with my non-lynch. It may be that no one gets lynched instead of me and that the TGG lynch was due to something different.

Who is more likely to be able to survive lynches like that, town or scum?

Long Con 2 wrote:I was joking about being unlynchable. And yes, I am claiming the latter. Every time I get the most votes, I have a chance of being lynched. As for who gets lynched instead of me, I was not given this information. I am guessing it may go to the person with the second most votes. TGG was up 2 votes on Day 2's tally, tied with Syn and MM. But of course I cannot be sure. It may have nothing to do with my non-lynch. It may be that no one gets lynched instead of me and that the TGG lynch was due to something different.

Cookie 2 wrote:

Cobalt 2 wrote:Cookie is a Scum Con teammate. She keeps going on about the possibility that Synonym is scum that can't be lynched. How would civilians win if scum can't be lynched? There are no role powers listed here. So how does Cookie suppose that? Is there a townie killer to take out the person who can't be lynched?

Cookie and Long Con are scum.

Wow it's pretty neat that several of you are all calling Long Con "Scum Con". So clever, I see what you did there

And um, no, sorry. Wherever it is that you play musy have a very limited repertoire of roles. I have played LOTS of games where one of the baddie teams had a member, generally the Don, who could not be lynched until all other members of the team were dead. And I am not pushing it; I am presenting it as one possible alternative to Syns "Hey, I stopped the lynch on myself! Am I civ or what, because the only possible possibility for me surviving a lynch is a civ possibility. And you must be bad if you don't believe me" schtick.

He could be right; I was by no means convinced he was bad. But I really hate the way he is throwing it down as proof in game with no known roles which means it is no such thing.

And I am by no means convinced that Long Con is bad either. Remember this post, which I don't recall you or Syn or sig commenting on?

Cookie 2 wrote:

Dom 2 wrote:

Long Con 2 wrote:When I read Synonym's post in which he listed the five names, my thoughts were "five mafia? Did I miss something?" I then looked on page 1 where Roxy said the roles would be listed eventually and still saw no such roles. I thought, "how did he come up with this number of five? Maybe he knows there are five and so he listed five people subconsciously." I then put my theory out there for discussion. I believe it is a common mafia strategy to call out names in the beginning of the game to gauge reactions. These two things put together cause me pause. Also, please note that Synonym has yet to give reason for calling out the five players that he did even though I have asked him to explain why he thought those five players specifically were mafia.

Linki: Welcome Dr Wilgy. Good to have you Sir.

I don't believe it is a common strategy at all.

Well, maybe he's just doing a poor job of "being" Long Con, and that is how they do things is nis neck of the woods

I cannot count all the games I have played where people vote for really weak, dumb reasons on day one. And one thing I HAVE seen as a common baddie tactic is to make someone have to overdefend their weak day one suspicion, and soon no one is talking about anything else, so the ping gets lynched. And when that weak day one ping flips civ, they turn on the person whom they forced to defend his weak day one suspicion and attack then THEM for their "better than random" day one ping. It's a pretty good day one strategy for a Mafia.

So, to parapharase Metalmarsh, I am not going to vote for Long Con OR Synonym. Since I have to go to work now, and may or may not be back before the poll ends, I AM going to vote for Sig. His post, the only on topic one I believe him to have made so far, felt EXACTLY like that kind of thing to me. Self righteous indignation over a day one ping seems a bit overdone, no?

VOTES FOR SIG

Linki w/TGG, this is the last thing he said, the post I am voting him for:

Sig 2 wrote:I looked back, and Syn 2 listed five names, he never said "are the five baddies" or anything that would be a true ping. I will be eyeing people who push that as a slip.

I hope he answers you, too.

That is what yesterday looked like to me, the bold italicized part. You have never seen that before? I will vote for Sig tomorrow, too, and will probably keep doing so until he or I are dead. Or maybe for you. To be honest, I am not 100% sure you are not buddying up to Syn, strong possibility.

Synonym 2 wrote:

Gamer Guy 2 wrote:Can we please lynch Sig tomorrow? Synonym, will you help me?

Why?

iirc he was one of the earliest to call Scum Con on his bullshit.

Scum Con again. Can you & Fauxbalt not resort to name calling? Thanks

And isn't proclaiming that Long Con is pretty much a proven baddie (which is what you are trying to do, right?) putting the cart before the horse? Let's find out if he is before we start making value judgments based on proximity to him, eh? Just like I am not damning YOU for sigs fairly bad looking (in my opinion) Day One posts, even though he was defending YOU.

While I DO believe sig is bad, and probably Fauxbalt with him, I am not as sure about you. A lot of Day One felt civ/civ to me, like what I outlined up there. Certainly Long Con felt backed into a corner forced to defend a dopey day one ping. Like 99.5% of day one pings are. I have the stats to prove that...somewhere In any case, if you are civ, you should be careful about the company you keep. First you're hanging with people who think calling people names is an awesome way to make them look bad, then next thing you know, you're hanging on a street corner shooting up.

True story, it happens all the time.

Cobalt wrote:Long Con, I'm coming for your weave this game.