The Syndicate

If you have any more questions, ank them early. I'll probably be in a tourist trap around deadline, mesmerized by fudge and lights and needless expenses.

Aye, if Dry Flood was scum the game would have been over by now. Either that or they are really sadistic, extending the game for a week for their own pleasure.

In response to stuff, I know Luna pretty well. I didn't see the early stuff as towntells or scumtells for her. But around the time of that lynch, I started seeing them, and I hopped the vote to whatever Colin was thinking. The Nutella ninja-slip helped too. (Sorry I didn't trust your ninja slip, I'm paranoid after courage)

I never had a strong scumread on Lunatella in the first place, just general wariness. Colin turned that into a vote.

The Dry Flood wrote: ↑Wed Jul 18, 2018 11:30 pm A reason that ColinOnSpeed is mafia: their relative lack of suspicion against Golden lately in the game.

Today is LYLO, and despite having made 15 posts thus far, including several lengthy ones, they've been geared towards answering questions from Golden, and... that's it.

GMac and Colinspeed have an equal number of posts voicing any potential suspicion of Dry Flood.

If Dry Flood is bad, that means they have needlessly extended the game to three consecutive LYLOs, first bussing their teammate entirely and then not seizing on the chance to mislynch us when our back is fused to the wall. I’m willing to accept at this point that Dry Flood is not scum, and if they are, I’m voting Golden in every single game from here on out until he’s dead.

The switch from Luna? Speed will have to answer that. I don't recall being here during that EOD.

The Dry Flood wrote: ↑Wed Jul 18, 2018 8:19 pm Similarly, on day 2, you have a Luna vote followed by a Fratyo vote. It's confusing to understand how your different heads were playing out. Can you please describe who had what opinion and what exactly went on at end of day there?

IIRC, speed and I had discussed both Lunatella and Fratyo at this point. I was suspicious of both, speed was suspicious of Lunatella, so I trusted the combination of our feelings and voted for Lunatella. Speed re-evaluated it (I think he was put off by me giving as much credence to his feelings at this point) and decided I should have trusted my gut toward Fratyo and switched the vote.

The Dry Flood wrote: ↑Wed Jul 18, 2018 7:19 pm I would like to know each of your independent views on developing townreads and using PoE as a method, independent of this game situation.

Developing townreads: I'm not sure I have anything to say here that wouldn't be rambling. Generally if people do stuff that I like meta-wise, or has logic that's tight, or rings true to my experiences in the game as far as reads go, or is making what seems to be a genuine (tone read) pro-town effort at gamesolving, those are all things that are a notch in favor. However, as I've said, I'm currently way too eager to award brownie points for false instances of all of that and it loses games. So I'm sort of fighting the impulse to settle on people prematurely as much as I must fight the impulse to tinfoil them ... if that makes sense. This is rambling.

PoE: I haven't really lived long enough in Syndicate games as town to feel like I've used this, but it's obviously a viable strategy if you look to U-Pick, Retro, and others like Easter where it nearly worked out. It depends on having solid town reads, though, so see above ... not sure if I answered this.

You're welcome to answer the follow-up questions Colin, at least for a bit. Gonna play a board game.

Speed here. I townread Fratyo early, and Colin's paranoia made me more sus over time in btsc. Just for some context.

ColinIsSpeed wrote: ↑Sun Jul 15, 2018 6:05 pm Dry Flood, why is Fratyo town?

Since we are seemingly not in a doublevoter world, is there any reason to vote C&M over Galactic Mac?

linki: hi other head

speed

ColinIsSpeed wrote: ↑Sun Jul 15, 2018 6:06 pm

Fratyo wrote: ↑Sun Jul 15, 2018 5:20 pm Also, i'm gonna follow you on whereever you go today between Colin/Galactic/Cuphead, but this is important for me to know in case we live another phase and you're dead or something

Fratyo is perfectly content to vote any of these 3, because they have no reads, because they are scum.

colin

ColinIsSpeed wrote: ↑Sun Jul 15, 2018 6:10 pm I am personally leaning toward believable to the case on Cupheads (dunno about my other head) but notice that they did not try to vote for somebody else out of self-preservation yet.

colin

ColinIsSpeed wrote: ↑Sun Jul 15, 2018 6:13 pm

The Dry Flood wrote: ↑Sun Jul 15, 2018 4:59 pm I could see this as deliberate hiding of a double vote power. Something is ringing a bell with me here regarding epi in Night Vale. He may have had the same power there. Just noting this in case someone gets a look and I can’t.

1-shot doublevote! It's completely optional, and doesn't need to be hidden. This case is built on false info.

Speed

ColinIsSpeed wrote: ↑Sun Jul 15, 2018 6:14 pm I don't think C&M is anything more than a shot in the dark, especially since we are likely in the ninja world. I'd reaaaally rather not use MYLO lynching them.

speed

ColinIsSpeed wrote: ↑Sun Jul 15, 2018 6:17 pm If Galactic Mac is the town doublevoter, putting us in that world, then Fratyo is 100% scum who has been trying to get us to no lynch so they can doublevote for the win.

I suspect them either way.

It's worrisome how easily Dry Flood is buddying with them.

speed

ColinIsSpeed wrote: ↑Sun Jul 15, 2018 6:18 pm I'll try to be back before EOD. We have enough info not to be foolish this lynch. Think about it.

speed

ColinIsSpeed wrote: ↑Sun Jul 15, 2018 6:18 pm

ColinIsSpeed wrote: ↑Sun Jul 15, 2018 6:18 pm I'll try to be back before EOD. We have enough info not to be foolish this lynch. Think about it.

You seem like a smart fella.

colin

ColinIsSpeed wrote: ↑Sun Jul 15, 2018 6:52 pm

The Dry Flood wrote: ↑Sun Jul 15, 2018 6:39 pm There is a 0% chance Fratyo is bad at this point. The searching has been earnest. I hate the idea that 'you're happy with any of these three because you aren't hunting' when there's two baddies our there.

I would like evidence to this claim. I have provided a series of examples or direct quotes which put Fractal as behaving according to his scum meta, or a general scum meta from him and sprit. On the other hand, you just say “he’s genuine” as if that’s hard proof.

Colin

ColinIsSpeed wrote: ↑Sun Jul 15, 2018 6:54 pm

The Dry Flood wrote: ↑Sun Jul 15, 2018 6:41 pm

ColinIsSpeed wrote: ↑Sun Jul 15, 2018 6:17 pmIt's worrisome how easily Dry Flood is buddying with them.

It's worrisome how much you are deliberately ignoring strong evidence of towniness all over the show.

I cannot possibly believe that in the space of a couple of minutes you both correct my understanding of the game role again and are still worried about me. There is huge cognitive dissonance there.

Is it not possible that your understanding of the game is incorrect because it’s not an understanding, but rather, a deliberate ploy? Your latest posts make me feel more that you are town if this is LYLO but I really fail to understand some things here.

colin

ColinIsSpeed wrote: ↑Sun Jul 15, 2018 6:57 pm If Fractal is bad again and town loses I’m driving to his house to arm wrestle him

colin

Queue up more questions for me. I'll try to answer them in a timely fashion. Still on vacation with crap internet.

linki: TOOO LAAAATE CCCOOOOLLLIIIN

Speed, since you're busier than I am I can do my best to answer if you see this.

The Dry Flood wrote: ↑Wed Jul 18, 2018 7:19 pm @colinisspeed @coliniscool @speedchuck

I would like to know each of your independent views on developing townreads and using PoE as a method, independent of this game situation.

Hm. Speed here.

I only have hard townreads as scum, or due to mechanics.
Generally, as town, I'm adaptable. I sometimes trust other people to be better hunters than I am, and only serve to cog up the world and make people evaluate things. I especially pay attention to the flow of the game, who is causing hot potato lynches and how easily lynches are formed.
A little off topic there.
When I'm more active in a game, I usually rely on meta towntells to help me formulate townreads. Hard to do in this game.

That's all I've got. I don't think much of my methodology as town.

The Dry Flood wrote: ↑Wed Jul 18, 2018 2:56 pm Oh and the ‘why wouldn’t they keep flood around to finish us off’ is a terrible argument.

I posted 6 minutes before end of night and made sure that neither daisy nor Mac nor Colin nor speed were around before I did it.

In fact, the reverse could be said. I tried to cfd Galactic Mac yesterday. I have no indication my position had changed. Wouldn’t it make sense for colinisspeed to keep me alive rather than GM so I’ll finish GM off?

Didn't realize the timing of that. Obviously I wasn't around. I rescind my argument.

I actually don’t have the option to vote from checking the results.

Oh, and ditto the bussing thing. Only time I defend people as scum is if they are town, because I get good guy points for it. Only time I defend scum is if I'm town, because I'm a moronic hunter. I'm pretty sure my meta record is perfect on those things, and it's gonna stay that way.

I don't know why my other head waited for me to vote. Seems obvious what we should do.

It's possible to tinfoil Dry Flood since they weren't killed tonight. But that would be silly. Mafia Dry Flood could have killed any player currently in the game, except for themselves, and still win by lynching ColinIsSpeed or Galactic Mac. Tinfoiling their alignment is a possibility, but Galactic Mac is a vote that is less risky, makes more sense, and really if Dry Flood is scum at this point, they deserve the win against this town activity.

That all said, it's not that strange for Fratyo to be killed by Gmac. It may look scummy for me to say this because of WIFOM, but Dry Flood decided to lynch us right before the night ended, looks like. Why wouldn't Galactic Mac keep them around to finish ColinIsSpeed off?

Regarding Dry Flood's nightkill analysis: When this head is in control of the kills in a game, he goes full Death Note with it. Killing WIFOM-full targets is great. I never kill people that suspect me when in control. But...
But the second part of my scumkill meta is that I never try to take control of the kill because I just don't give a crap, and I don't want the guilt on my hands of choosing. Make of that what you will. I think I have been on a team that killed Epi on Night 1, because I just stayed out of it. Felt guilty anyway.

The lack of voting for Gmac yesterday by this account was due to genuine absence, at least from this head. I'm certain Gmac is scum, outside of tinfoil. Why wouldn't I go ahead and vote for that? It certainly would have been better than going into today with Dry Flood gunning for us. Again.

Since my boss isn’t here and I have nothing to do, and we’re still tasked with defending ourselves: there is NO world in which I behave the way I did toward the Cuphead lynch if I’m scum. Look at my scum games — I tried bussing Sloonei in AG early on, I bussed Choutas and fought with Scotty in Easter, I bussed everybody almost without a second thought in Retro. Compare that to my town games — I inadvertently defended Long Con and Fractal in Courage, I did the same to SEVERAL scum (Luna, Sloonei) in U-Pick. I won’t speak for speed, but I’m a busser through and through and I would have been an ardent Cuphead voter if I were scum. I’ve got receipts.

(I’m pretty sure I know what my other head is going to say, but let’s draw the drama out a little while.)

And sorry sprit, but that’s not how Occam’s Razor works.

Nightkill analysis is not the way to go ... my nightkills are almost never against someone voicing suspicion of me, I’m not that obvious.

This head will confer with the other head about our vote. The night didn’t go the way I planned.

Yeah okay

I will be active tomorrow, despite ongoing vacation. Three man vanilla lylo.

That's an excellent point, Dry Flood. I know who I will be voting tomorrow.

Only reason I haven't looked at those points is because I'm down to having shoddy internet access about a third of my day, and no cell service at all. Looking through pages is painful.

I guess fratyo will be choosing between CS and GM tomorrow, with my vote being what it will be. Sorry I wasn't around today to go ahead and work this out. I was on a mountain.

Linki: I can't read that until posting. Internet suuucks

Fratyo wrote: ↑Tue Jul 17, 2018 1:37 pm

Fratyo wrote: ↑Tue Jul 17, 2018 10:53 am I can almost guarantee no one will die if we no lynch

we'd be prolonging things to solve, sure. but that also leaves room for doubt and wrong ideas to form.

but if more time is legitimately needed, by all means no lynch. mafia has the advantage in 4 man lynch

Isn't the mafia forced to pick a target?

I have no idea where either side of this conversation is coming from but I don't like it.

Dry Flood, I am unable to access this thread easily. Explain, please, in one magnificent post, how Frayo is townfirmed.

ColinIsSpeed wrote: ↑Tue Jul 17, 2018 9:12 am I'll vote no lynch. If nothing else, maybe activity tomorrow will be better.

And by that, I mean my other head, as I am in no condition to be active

Other head feels good about a smaller suspect pool and can try try try tomorrow.

I'll vote no lynch. If nothing else, maybe activity tomorrow will be better.

And by that, I mean my other head, as I am in no condition to be active

It's not a bad idea.

In POE, arguing why you are town shouldn't be a scum-tell.

I actually do like that gmac post too though. Could be wifom, but it shows a willingness to figure things out instead of coasting.

Where tha day post?

One chucky boy here. I've cooled down.

Golden, do you want to give me credit? Ask yourself this question. What was Speedchuck's grand plan today, and why did he ruin that plan and get Cuphead and Mugman lynched?

C&M's lynch got started due to two things: A role POE that I started, and a misconception you had about one of the role (again something I started, even if you spun off it). I am the reason role POE started at all.

Look back at my posts. I planned that out to try and trap scum. I knew the caveat that the scum ninja could claim doublevoter. I knew that. If I were scum with Epi, would I not have told him to claim vanilla? Would I not have manipulated the claim game I not only started, but knew every loophole in? I may suck mightily at scumhunting, I may not know your meta worth a crap, but I know fakeclaims like the back of my hand.

Give me some credit. Look at my meta if I'm supposed to look at yours. Look at my last town games: Buffy, GoC, Courage. My scumhunting record is awful. Please do the research in the next couple of days, and I'll stop ranting.

(And for the record, Luna's suspicion on me is unfounded. I suspected her early in this game.)

The Dry Flood wrote: ↑Sun Jul 15, 2018 8:30 pm "Reevaluation of the thread? Nah, I prefer the reads I've got."

of course you're frustrated and find me insufferable. That's the general goal, put the fire to your feet and see what happens. I don't think you've come out the other side looking great right now.

When you get back, you should try to explain why you think Fratyo was, if bad:

1) So desperate to start a CFD on day one and risk the equilibrium of a settled thread when the leading wagons were both town.
2) Unwilling to save himself by jumping to another wagon that could have more easily guaranteed his safety; and
3) Willing to jump so early on the Cupman train when there wasn't honestly a huge amount to commend that choice other than 'trust'

What I see in your game is a complete absence of trying to weigh up any of the actions of people that would be townleaning. It feels like you are focusing solely on the suspicious and avoiding the opposite. This is not something I'm used to seeing from either speed or colin.

Point 1 is exactly what Fractal did as scum in Courage. This, in addition to other 1:1 similarities to his game there, as well as some tone similarities to sprit’s game in Retro, AND my partner’s assurances that I’m not crazy, are what have led to suspect Fratyo. It’s possible there are plenty of reasons to see him as town that I’ve somehow missed and I’ll try to review the thread, but I’m pretty busy the next couple days, so I can’t guarantee anything.

As far as not assigning town credit — it’s because this game is shady as hell. Everybody looks mostly null or conceivably bad because almost nothing substantial has happened until right now and it’s hard to know who’s even talking in most posts. I also have a tendency of assigning town cred too easily that would have lost U-Pick and pretty much sealed Courage as a defeat so I’m making a semi-conscious effort to be more discerning. If you don’t like that then

For the record, I respect Golden enough for him to fake townships.

Lunatella' identical slip was more convincing

The Dry Flood wrote: ↑Sun Jul 15, 2018 8:33 pm

ColinIsSpeed wrote: ↑Sun Jul 15, 2018 6:05 pm Dry Flood, why is Fratyo town?

Since we are seemingly not in a doublevoter world, is there any reason to vote C&M over Galactic Mac?

linki: hi other head

On what basis did you come to that underlined conclusion before the lynch?

Nobody claimed it. The 'seemingly' is because GM is a ?

I’m logging out as well. My top suspect is Fratyo regardless of what you say. Galactic Mac is possible based on the slight shadiness of the EOD material but I do not feel very comfortable with that read. See ya

I can’t speak to speed, but Golden, I REFUSE to believe you believe there’s no way for either of us to be skeptical of you and interpret “townslips” as obfuscation, or whatever. I’m not clairvoyant dude. This is obtuse.

The Dry Flood wrote: ↑Sun Jul 15, 2018 8:01 pm

ColinIsSpeed wrote: ↑Sun Jul 15, 2018 7:59 pm

The Dry Flood wrote: ↑Sun Jul 15, 2018 7:56 pm

ColinIsSpeed wrote: ↑Sun Jul 15, 2018 7:51 pm

The Dry Flood wrote: ↑Sun Jul 15, 2018 7:46 pm

ColinIsSpeed wrote: ↑Sun Jul 15, 2018 7:44 pm It doesn’t seem like that would have been necessary, though, so I struggle to see it.

Quite pointless, in fact, so obviously not a bus job.

This also despite the fact I have literally townslipped about the nature of both possible mafia power roles.

Your trying to rationalise my affiliation is entirely false. You know I'm town. Neither Colin nor Speed would have had any doubt from quite a while ago now.

To your last sentence — why? I don’t see why you would be outside of the POE before today.

You literally tole me why my Cupman/GM can't be a team theory was wrong, and then were worried about my affiliation. This makes zero sense.

Can you quote the post you’re referring to? I think the bulk of your beef in this post is from speed, but I’m not entirely sure what you refer to as worrying.

If you're town you should stop trying to defend yourself against me and start reevaluating the game entirely.

Why would I stop defending myself if:

A) I know I’m town
B) You are dick slinging a lynch of me all over the thread right now
C) Most of the players left have shown a willingness to not engage too thoroughly with the thread and are likely to ride any train you start on me all the way to a loss/scum victory

Golden, buddy, you are insufferable.

The Dry Flood wrote: ↑Sun Jul 15, 2018 7:56 pm

ColinIsSpeed wrote: ↑Sun Jul 15, 2018 7:51 pm

The Dry Flood wrote: ↑Sun Jul 15, 2018 7:46 pm

ColinIsSpeed wrote: ↑Sun Jul 15, 2018 7:44 pm It doesn’t seem like that would have been necessary, though, so I struggle to see it.

Quite pointless, in fact, so obviously not a bus job.

This also despite the fact I have literally townslipped about the nature of both possible mafia power roles.

Your trying to rationalise my affiliation is entirely false. You know I'm town. Neither Colin nor Speed would have had any doubt from quite a while ago now.

To your last sentence — why? I don’t see why you would be outside of the POE before today.

Why did I go after the mafia power role?

My game is so bold faced town that there couldn't be any doubt now, yet you're trying to rationalise away your doubts, or still harbouring that it could be a bus. It just isn't believable. Both of you are far more willing to trust me when I'm looking this town and you're town.

The outcome of the lynch wasn’t something known to us beforehand, so that’s not going to have an effect on reads up until then.

I have nothing I can say in response to the rest of this though. If you really can’t imagine a universe in which a town-Colin-speed are hesitant to trust Golden, then ... how much mafia have you played?

The Dry Flood wrote: ↑Sun Jul 15, 2018 7:56 pm

ColinIsSpeed wrote: ↑Sun Jul 15, 2018 7:51 pm

The Dry Flood wrote: ↑Sun Jul 15, 2018 7:46 pm

ColinIsSpeed wrote: ↑Sun Jul 15, 2018 7:44 pm It doesn’t seem like that would have been necessary, though, so I struggle to see it.

Quite pointless, in fact, so obviously not a bus job.

This also despite the fact I have literally townslipped about the nature of both possible mafia power roles.

Your trying to rationalise my affiliation is entirely false. You know I'm town. Neither Colin nor Speed would have had any doubt from quite a while ago now.

To your last sentence — why? I don’t see why you would be outside of the POE before today.

You literally tole me why my Cupman/GM can't be a team theory was wrong, and then were worried about my affiliation. This makes zero sense.

Can you quote the post you’re referring to? I think the bulk of your beef in this post is from speed, but I’m not entirely sure what you refer to as worrying.

Head 2 here. Come on, Dry Flood. You're unintentionally calling me stupid, since I'm town. Guess you'll find that out in a couple days.

Check out speedchuck's defense of Long Con in GoC, a game you ran, if you want to know what just happened. If you care to hunt instead of pompously telling me things that aren't true.

You will lose the game because you can't fathom someone feeling panic about lynching a mostly inactive gag account in Kyle based on faulty cases. What the hell even.

And even if it makes me look stupid, I'll throw your assurance back in your face if you are town, let you feel a little of the frustration you're giving me right now. I'll savor it.

Don't contact the MoD about me. Im fine, I'm going. Bye.
Linki x5 I don't care to read any of that. Edited this post to make it less insulting.

The Dry Flood wrote: ↑Sun Jul 15, 2018 7:51 pm

ColinIsSpeed wrote: ↑Sun Jul 15, 2018 7:47 pm

The Dry Flood wrote: ↑Sun Jul 15, 2018 7:43 pm

ColinIsSpeed wrote: ↑Sun Jul 15, 2018 7:03 pm Well, I genuinely thought that was it, so good going.

I guarantee the scumteam is going to try to get us killed next lynch by painting our actions as a “defense,” but don’t listen to it. Ask yourself if that’s really in line with Colin or Speed’s scum meta.

I will be attempting an analysis of Cuphead and Mugman in the night, but I fear we’re going to have a hard time figuring out where to proceed.

Everything you are doing looks bad and is absolutely in line with your scum meta.

Everything lunatella and Daisy are doing looks like their town selves.

Fratyo's defence about end of day two is compelling and accurate. What's more, he was busy accepting my point about the doublevoters while you were the one who pointed out it was wrong. In my book, that lends me to thinking he was as townslippy as I was.

Your end of day was entirely about shifting the target ANYWHERE else. You called out GM. You threw shade at fratyo. You threw shade at me.

Fratyo and I actually made that lynch happen out of nothing. You spent your time throwing shade at it in any way possible all while calling the case 'believable'.

Anything but see Cup & Mug lynched. Anything at all.

You absolutely should 100% be lynched tomorrow.

This is not an accurate characterization of our actions. Speed and I had offered reads and voiced opinions in different directions (some things you point out are him, some me) but we were pretty unified behind the Fratyo lynch.

You were unified because casting doubt on his motives after his behaviour in the last game was the apparent best route to a win. You left me alive because you believed I would follow you down the Fratyo route and others would follow me. This view of what was going on in your mind is not difficult for me to reach, I feel it in my bones. It's how I'd be thinking if I were bad.

Also, don't mistype it as Fartyo. It's really easy to do. Just a warning.

I don’t know whether that’s really true or not (Fratyo would be the easiest “mislynch.”) Lunatella seems like it would be easier given how close they were previously and that both players have their own hard-to-read moments. I haven’t thought very hard about this because I’m not scum but I suppose you will need to inspect your bones when this game is over.

The Dry Flood wrote: ↑Sun Jul 15, 2018 7:46 pm

ColinIsSpeed wrote: ↑Sun Jul 15, 2018 7:44 pm It doesn’t seem like that would have been necessary, though, so I struggle to see it.

Quite pointless, in fact, so obviously not a bus job.

This also despite the fact I have literally townslipped about the nature of both possible mafia power roles.

Your trying to rationalise my affiliation is entirely false. You know I'm town. Neither Colin nor Speed would have had any doubt from quite a while ago now.

To your last sentence — why? I don’t see why you would be outside of the POE before today.

The Dry Flood wrote: ↑Sun Jul 15, 2018 7:45 pm

ColinIsSpeed wrote: ↑Sun Jul 15, 2018 6:54 pm

The Dry Flood wrote: ↑Sun Jul 15, 2018 6:41 pm

ColinIsSpeed wrote: ↑Sun Jul 15, 2018 6:17 pmIt's worrisome how easily Dry Flood is buddying with them.

It's worrisome how much you are deliberately ignoring strong evidence of towniness all over the show.

I cannot possibly believe that in the space of a couple of minutes you both correct my understanding of the game role again and are still worried about me. There is huge cognitive dissonance there.

Is it not possible that your understanding of the game is incorrect because it’s not an understanding, but rather, a deliberate ploy? Your latest posts make me feel more that you are town if this is LYLO but I really fail to understand some things here.

Come at me bro.

You should have killed me before I rumbled you. MP was a bad choice.

Your smugness is going to make you the driving factor in the town loss. I acknowledge that I look bad w/r/t Cuphead and Mugman for certain reasons, but look at how speed and I have both behaved when it came to bussing as scum. You noted in Retro that I was much more subtle in my attempts to redirect lynches away from my team. Do you really think I would have fucked this up this badly?

The Dry Flood wrote: ↑Sun Jul 15, 2018 7:43 pm

ColinIsSpeed wrote: ↑Sun Jul 15, 2018 7:03 pm Well, I genuinely thought that was it, so good going.

I guarantee the scumteam is going to try to get us killed next lynch by painting our actions as a “defense,” but don’t listen to it. Ask yourself if that’s really in line with Colin or Speed’s scum meta.

I will be attempting an analysis of Cuphead and Mugman in the night, but I fear we’re going to have a hard time figuring out where to proceed.

Everything you are doing looks bad and is absolutely in line with your scum meta.

Everything lunatella and Daisy are doing looks like their town selves.

Fratyo's defence about end of day two is compelling and accurate. What's more, he was busy accepting my point about the doublevoters while you were the one who pointed out it was wrong. In my book, that lends me to thinking he was as townslippy as I was.

Your end of day was entirely about shifting the target ANYWHERE else. You called out GM. You threw shade at fratyo. You threw shade at me.

Fratyo and I actually made that lynch happen out of nothing. You spent your time throwing shade at it in any way possible all while calling the case 'believable'.

Anything but see Cup & Mug lynched. Anything at all.

You absolutely should 100% be lynched tomorrow.

This is not an accurate characterization of our actions. Speed and I had offered reads and voiced opinions in different directions (some things you point out are him, some me) but we were pretty unified behind the Fratyo lynch.

I walk away from reading the events of the day feeling better about The Dry Flood, with the possibility this was also one of Golden’s bus jobs. It doesn’t seem like that would have been necessary, though, so I struggle to see it. I feel worse about Galactic Mac though and still pretty bad about Fratyo.

The Dry Flood wrote: ↑Sun Jul 15, 2018 6:44 pm And this same kind of tense as the sloogy vote. Leaning towards the case as believable. What does that even mean?

It means the case looked believable...? What part of it confuses you?

welp I stupid.

This means no more power roles, right?

Well, I genuinely thought that was it, so good going.

I guarantee the scumteam is going to try to get us killed next lynch by painting our actions as a “defense,” but don’t listen to it. Ask yourself if that’s really in line with Colin or Speed’s scum meta.

I will be attempting an analysis of Cuphead and Mugman in the night, but I fear we’re going to have a hard time figuring out where to proceed.

If Fractal is bad again and town loses I’m driving to his house to arm wrestle him

The Dry Flood wrote: ↑Sun Jul 15, 2018 6:41 pm

ColinIsSpeed wrote: ↑Sun Jul 15, 2018 6:17 pmIt's worrisome how easily Dry Flood is buddying with them.

It's worrisome how much you are deliberately ignoring strong evidence of towniness all over the show.

I cannot possibly believe that in the space of a couple of minutes you both correct my understanding of the game role again and are still worried about me. There is huge cognitive dissonance there.

Is it not possible that your understanding of the game is incorrect because it’s not an understanding, but rather, a deliberate ploy? Your latest posts make me feel more that you are town if this is LYLO but I really fail to understand some things here.

The Dry Flood wrote: ↑Sun Jul 15, 2018 6:39 pm There is a 0% chance Fratyo is bad at this point. The searching has been earnest. I hate the idea that 'you're happy with any of these three because you aren't hunting' when there's two baddies our there.

I would like evidence to this claim. I have provided a series of examples or direct quotes which put Fractal as behaving according to his scum meta, or a general scum meta from him and sprit. On the other hand, you just say “he’s genuine” as if that’s hard proof.

ColinIsSpeed wrote: ↑Sun Jul 15, 2018 6:18 pm I'll try to be back before EOD. We have enough info not to be foolish this lynch. Think about it.

You seem like a smart fella.

I'll try to be back before EOD. We have enough info not to be foolish this lynch. Think about it.

If Galactic Mac is the town doublevoter, putting us in that world, then Fratyo is 100% scum who has been trying to get us to no lynch so they can doublevote for the win.

I suspect them either way.

It's worrisome how easily Dry Flood is buddying with them.

I don't think C&M is anything more than a shot in the dark, especially since we are likely in the ninja world. I'd reaaaally rather not use MYLO lynching them.