The Syndicate

Deborah

Day 1 - Vote 1 for Cain, 2 on Samson, 2 on Uzz (this vote doesn't look too bad in isolation, less likely for heathen)
Day 2 - Vote 4 for Cain, Uzz on 1 (solidifies Cain's lead over Uzz)
Day 3 - Vote 5 for MM, 3 on Uzz (pretty suspect, big role in saving Uzz)
Day 4 - self vote (no accountability for anything)
Day 5 - Vote 1 for Malchus, Uzziah on 9 (can't be seen as simply getting on the train after a teammate goes down)
Day 6 - Vote 2 for Jacob, Ruth on 4, Rachel on 3, Absalom and Pilate on 2 (seems less likely - spreading the vote so far when they could help save Ruth?)
Day 7 - missed vote, no heathen in trouble
Day 8 - vote 6 on Jonathan (nothing here either way, Jonathan was going down)
Day 9 - missed vote (again, no save on Mordecai - would be very surprised if both Deborah and Rebecca are heathen)
Day 10 - vote 5 on Belshazzar (nothing really in this either way).
Day 11 - vote 3 on Isaac, 5 on ruth (possibly trying to save ruth).

Deborah looks cleanest of the three for me so far. There are some shady votes, but there are also quite a few days which don't really make a whole lot of sense from a heathen perspective - days 1, 6 and 9 particularly. Also, many votes are not really that shady in the slightest. She does jump on lynch trains though, all the time.

Would like to hear more about Stephen's opinion here.

Stephen, I really wish you would contribute more than these drop ins. You could be so helpful, you've had reasonably good instincts.

I'm just working on Deborah, but I've noticed in these rainbow lists some clear patterns emerging with Mordecai, Uzziah, Ruth AND some of those people I'm analysing, and those patterns are that they are frequently the first vote on people (whether or not those people end up with lots of votes) and also frequently some middling vote in a losing vote train. Interesting to note those patterns in the context of the people I'm analysing today.

@absalom - what do you think gives? (And I would note Isaac did it too) I dunno what to make of it.

Rebecca

Day 1 - Vote 1 on Jephthah, Samson on 4 (staying out of civ lynch)
Day 2 - Vote 1 on Jephthah, Cain on 7 (staying out of civ lynch again, consistency)
Day 3 - Vote 1 on Mary Magdelene, Uzz on 3, Job on 2 (this one is interesting - worth a look to see if Rebecca was a key thread reason for MM's lynch train, otherwise it's a less likely vote).
Day 4 - Vote 3 on Balaam, Job on 2 (interesting again - and again slightly less explainable as heathen, although its civ v civ - potentially distancing from Uzz?)
Day 5 - Vote 1 on Jeph, Uzz on 1 (early vote for Uzz's main lynch competitor for the day).
Day 6 - Vote 2 on Rachel, Ruth on 4 (along with Mordecai voting for Rachel right after, could be part of a push to save Ruth)
Day 7 - Vote 2 on Jephthah, 2 on herself, 3 on Jonathan (a MASSIVE leap of faith to use that vote then instead of saving it for self-preservation if civ. Samuel voted for Jephthah later, Mordecai voted last).
Day 8 - no vote (no risk to heathen life)
Day 9 - no vote (and Mordecai was lynched...)
Day 10 - vote 3 on Isaac, Belsh on 5 (staying out of 'civ' lynch)
Day 11 - vote 2 on Isaac, Ruth on 3 (Ruth save)

Rebecca is an interesting mix. Some of her votes could look incredibly damning (day 7, for example), more than any of Rahab's. Others seem far less likely (day 9's miss, day 3...), less than any of Rahab's. If Rebecca is bad, she is smart at keeping herself moving, and staying very consistent with her suspicions. I'd say that a thread read is in order to make sense of the context.

Samuel wrote:I have my reasons for mentioning him that week become clear once you lynch me.

Yeah, I really don't buy this.

Votes of each player - noting in each case whether or such a vote would be normal if bad - and if so why. Doing each one at a time.

Rahab

Day 1 - vote 3 on Uzz, after Samson had 7 (distancing)
Day 2 - Vote 6 on Cain, Uzz had 3 (increasing safety margin)
Day 3 - Vote 4 on Uzz, MM had 5 (less likely - close result to tighten the gap BUT Ruth voted right afterwards to increase gap again)
Day 4 - Vote 2 on Lazarus (no accountability in civ vs civ fight)
Day 5 - Vote 7 on Uzz, Jeph on 3 (voting after Uzz already went down)
Day 6 - Vote 2 on Pilate, Ruth on 4, Rachel on 3 (less likely - a vote for Rachel could have been more effective BUT also more obvious. Creating save options?)
Day 7 - Vote 2 on Pilate, Jonathan on 3, Rebecca on 2 (no accountability for Jonathan, consistency bonus - also could be creating options to save Rebecca???)
Day 8 - Vote 1 on Jacob, Jonathan on 4 (no accountability for Jonathan lynch)
Day 9 - Vote 3 Isaac, Mordecai on 2 (save of Mordecai)
Day 10 - Vote 2 on Isaac, Belshazzar on 4 (no accountability for 'civ' lynch, consistency)
Day 11 - Vote 1 on Isaac, Ruth on 3 (consistency, Ruth save)

Rahab does look pretty bad here, if I'm honest.

Lot wrote:Indeed.

And my answer to the second is - let's see what he has to say first, and I still want to do the analysis of all Isaac voters before I think we should commit to any one specific direction.

Samuel wrote:No. You all have already decided to lynch me so do it.

I'm really over this kind of attitude. It's exactly what Isaac said when he was first called out too. Being called suspicious is not the same as 'everyone has decided to lynch me'. There is nothing that turns me into tunnel-vision-central quite as badly as the person who thinks that getting a bit of suspicion as the same as 'you all want to lynch me'.

So, lets play 'be a civilian' for a second - can you not see how suspicious Isaac's vote train looks even if YOU are civ.

Esther wrote:Because if his vote increases, then why would he skip voting?.

Two potential explanations for Lazarus skipping voting - one good, one bad.

1) If he is good, skipping voting means he won't vote me and thus won't lynch me (this also has the side effect that I don't try all out to lynch him) - good for the town overall.
2) If he is bad, skipping voting means there is never any firm evidence he is NOT the zealot.

Absalom wrote:Or civ-unfriendly death conditions.

The question is, do we believe him?

Indeed.

And my answer to the second is - let's see what he has to say first, and I still want to do the analysis of all Isaac voters before I think we should commit to any one specific direction.

It was surely curious wording too, don't you think Absalom?

Samuel wrote:Let me be clear. Lynching me will not get the result you all are hoping for unless you are not a civ. No one good will like the end result. You can present voting records in whatever way you want. Civs can have bad voting records. I am not bad in any way shape or form. Lynching me would be a tactical mistake, plain and simple.

In fact, Samuel never says 'I am a civilian' at all.

If I interpreted it purely at face value, my instinctual read is that Samuel is trying to imply he is a horseman with civ-friendly win conditions.

Absalom wrote:Actually, I didn't notice before, but Samuel's voting record is downright terrible, but without the redeeming qualities of Deborah's. I'd vote for him today over her.

I agree that Samuel looks the worst of them, and as of right now he is my preferred option. I want to go back and do a bit of a read and case though, we could get into trouble if we don't think things through. We also need to bear in mind that we don't know when Judas may have been recruited, so it's worth looking for someone with good early vote patterns that goes bad later.

PS Absalom - apologies for being so brutal yesterday, but hopefully you understand today why I was.

So, Lazarus is no threat to me today if he is the zealot. It merely means my vote continues to be wasted.

I shall vote Lazarus, because he probably deserves it.

And I'll try to do a vote analysis of those who voted Isaac when I get a moment, to see if we can see some as more scummy than others.

Also, it's possible Lazarus is tactically not voting some days, such as yesterday. The Zealot's role says:

"for each Day in a row that he votes the same person, his vote increases by one."

What's unclear to me is - epi, you could help her - If the zealot takes a day off from voting the same person, does their vote reset to being worth one?

Balaam wrote:DAY 1 RESULTS:

1. SAMUEL (Paul)<---voter = NK'ed by heathens
2. SAMUEL (Samson)<---voter = civvie
3. LOT (Gideon)<---voter = NK'ed by heathens
4. UZZIAH (Pilate)
5. REBECCA (Rachel)<---voter = NK'ed by heathens
6. PAUL (Martha)<---voter = NK'ed by heathens
7. BARNABAS (Stephen)
8. UZZIAH (Job) <---voter = civvie
9. SAMSON (Mordecai)<===VOTER = HEATHEN
10. SAMSON (Mary Mag)<---voter = civvie
11. ABSALOM (Cain)<---voter = civvie
12. CAIN (Deborah)
13. CAIN (Absalom)
14. SAMSON (Isaac)
15. SAMSON (Jacob)
16. JEPHTHA (Rebecca)
17. ABSALOM (Malchus)
18. SAMSON (Jonathan)<---voter = civvie
19. MARY MAG (Jonah)
20. SAMSON (Belshazzar)<===VOTER = HORSEMAN
21. SAMSON (Samuel)
22. CAIN (Uzziah)<===VOTER = HEATHEN
23. JEPHTHAH (Lot)
24. PAUL (Nicodemus)<---voter = NK'ed by heathens
25. CAIN (Ruth)<===VOTER = HEATHEN
26. GIDEON (Hagar)<---voter was the civvie smited after our first 3 civ stonings
27. MARY MAG (Jephthah)<---voter = civvie
28. UZZIAH (Rahab)
29. CAIN (Balaam)<---voter = NK'ed by JUDAS for the Heathens

Not Voting: Barnabas, Bathsheba, Esther, Judah, Lazarus



DAY 1 RESULTS (alternate format):

9. SAMSON (Mordecai)<===VOTER = HEATHEN
10. SAMSON (Mary Mag)<---voter = civvie
14. SAMSON (Isaac)
15. SAMSON (Jacob)
18. SAMSON (Jonathan)<---voter = civvie
20. SAMSON (Belshazzar)<===VOTER = HORSEMAN
21. SAMSON (Samuel)


12. CAIN (Deborah)
13. CAIN (Absalom)
22. CAIN (Uzziah)<===VOTER = HEATHEN
25. CAIN (Ruth)<===VOTER = HEATHEN
29. CAIN (Balaam)<---voter = NK'ed by JUDAS for the Heathens


4. UZZIAH (Pilate)
8. UZZIAH (Job) <---voter = civvie
28. UZZIAH (Rahab)


1. SAMUEL (Paul)<---voter = NK'ed by heathens
2. SAMUEL (Samson)<---voter = civvie


6. PAUL (Martha)<---voter = NK'ed by heathens
24. PAUL (Nicodemus)<---voter = NK'ed by heathens


11. ABSALOM (Cain)<---voter = civvie
17. ABSALOM (Malchus)


16. JEPHTHA (Rebecca)
23. JEPHTHAH (Lot)


19. MARY MAG (Jonah)
27. MARY MAG (Jephthah)<---voter = civvie

3. LOT (Gideon)<---voter = NK'ed by heathens

5. REBECCA (Rachel)<---voter = NK'ed by heathens

7. BARNABAS (Stephen)

26. GIDEON (Hagar)<---voter was the civvie smited after our first 3 civ stonings


Not Voting:
Barnabas
Bathsheba
Esther
Judah<---voter was the civvie smote after our second 3 civ stonings
Lazarus

Balaam wrote:Day 2 Results:

1. JOB (Uzziah)<===VOTER = HEATHEN
2. UZZIAH (Job)<---voter = civvie
3. JOB (Rachel)<---voter = NK'ed by heathens
4. CAIN (Paul)<---voter = NK'ed by heathens
5. CAIN (Absalom)
6. CAIN (Belshazzar)<===VOTER = HORSEMAN
7. CAIN (Deborah)
8. CAIN (Malchus)
9. UZZIAH (Lot)
10. CAIN (Rahab)
11. STEPHEN (Stephen)
12. CAIN (Balaam)<---voter = NK'ed by JUDAS for the Heathens
13. JEPHTHAH (Rebecca)
14. ABSALOM (Lazarus)
15. UZZIAH (Jonathan)<---voter = civvie
16. CAIN (Bathsheba)

Not Voting: Barnabas (2), Cain, Esther (2), Gideon, Hagar, Isaac, Jacob, Jephthah, Jonah, Judah (2), Mary Mag, Mordecai, Nicodemus, Pilate, Ruth, Samuel



DAY 2 RESULTS (alternate format):

4. CAIN (Paul)<---voter = NK'ed by heathens
5. CAIN (Absalom)
6. CAIN (Belshazzar)<===VOTER = HORSEMAN
7. CAIN (Deborah)
8. CAIN (Malchus)
10. CAIN (Rahab)
12. CAIN (Balaam)<---voter = NK'ed by JUDAS for the Heathens
16. CAIN (Bathsheba)


2. UZZIAH (Job)<---voter = civvie
9. UZZIAH (Lot)
15. UZZIAH (Jonathan)<---voter = civvie


1. JOB (Uzziah)<===VOTER = HEATHEN
3. JOB (Rachel)<---voter = NK'ed by heathens


11. STEPHEN (Stephen)

13. JEPHTHAH (Rebecca)

14. ABSALOM (Lazarus)



Not Voting:
Barnabas (2)
Cain<---voter = civvie
Esther (2)
Gideon<---voter = NK'ed by heathens
Hagar<---voter was the civvie smited after our first 3 civ stonings
Isaac
Jacob
Jephthah<---voter = civvie
Jonah
Judah (2)<---voter was the civvie smited after our second 3 civ stonings
Mary Mag<---voter = civvie
Mordecai<===VOTER = HEATHEN
Nicodemus<---voter = NK'ed by heathens
Pilate
Ruth<===VOTER = HEATHEN
Samuel

Balaam wrote:DAY 3 Results:

1. UZZIAH (Job)<---voter = civvie
2. JOB (Uzziah)<===VOTER = HEATHEN
3. RACHEL (Lot)
4. RACHEL (Mary Mag)<---voter = civvie
5. UZZIAH (Nicodemus)<---voter = NK'ed by heathens
6. LAZARUS (Mordecai)<===VOTER = HEATHEN
7. JOB (Isaac)
8. RAHAB (Jonah)
9. UZZIAH (Absalom)
10. MARY MAG (Rebecca)
11. LAZARUS (Jonathan)<---voter = civvie
12. LAZARUS (Gideon)<---voter = NK'ed by heathens
13. MARY MAG (Jacob)
14. MARY MAG (Belshazzar)<===VOTER = HORSEMAN
15. MARY MAG (Jephthah)<---voter = civvie
16. MARY MAG (Deborah)
17. JOB (Rachel)<---voter = NK'ed by heathens
18. JOB (Esther)
19. ABSALOM (Lazarus)
20. UZZIAH (Rahab)
21. MARY MAG (Ruth)<===VOTER = HEATHEN
22. MARY MAG (Balaam)<---voter = NK'ed by JUDAS for the Heathens

Day 3 Not Voting: Barnabas (3), Bathsheba (2), Hagar (2), Judah (3), Malchus, Pilate (2), Samuel (2), Stephen



DAY 3 RESULTS (alternate format):

10. MARY MAG (Rebecca)
13. MARY MAG (Jacob)
14. MARY MAG (Belshazzar)<===VOTER = HORSEMAN
15. MARY MAG (Jephthah)<---voter = civvie
16. MARY MAG (Deborah)
21. MARY MAG (Ruth)<===VOTER = HEATHEN
22. MARY MAG (Balaam)<---voter = NK'ed by JUDAS for the Heathens


1. UZZIAH (Job)<---voter = civvie
5. UZZIAH (Nicodemus)<---voter = NK'ed by heathens
9. UZZIAH (Absalom)
20. UZZIAH (Rahab)


2. JOB (Uzziah)<===VOTER = HEATHEN
7. JOB (Isaac)
17. JOB (Rachel)<---voter = NK'ed by heathens
18. JOB (Esther)


6. LAZARUS (Mordecai)<===VOTER = HEATHEN
11. LAZARUS (Jonathan)<---voter = civvie
12. LAZARUS (Gideon)<---voter = NK'ed by heathens


3. RACHEL (Lot)
4. RACHEL (Mary Mag)<---voter = civvie

8. RAHAB (Jonah)

19. ABSALOM (Lazarus)

Day 3 Not Voting:
Barnabas (3)
Bathsheba (2)
Hagar (2)<---voter was the civvie smited after our first 3 civ stonings
Judah (3)<---voter was the civvie smited after our second 3 civ stonings
Malchus
Pilate (2)
Samuel (2)
Stephen

Balaam wrote:DAY 4 Results:

1. RACHEL (Pilate)
2. JOB (Uzziah)<===VOTER = HEATHEN
3. BALAAM (Absalom)
4. BALAAM (Nicodemus)<---voter = NK'ed by heathens
5. ABSALOM (Lazarus)
6. JOB (Rachel)<---voter = NK'ed by heathens
7. BALAAM (Rebecca)
8. JOB (Stephen)
9. JOB (Jonah)
10. JOB (Samuel)
11. LAZARUS (Mordecai)<===VOTER = HEATHEN
12. JOB (Balaam)<---voter = NK'ed by JUDAS for the Heathens
13. UZZIAH (Ruth)<===VOTER = HEATHEN
14. LAZARUS (Rahab)
15. RACHEL (Job)<---voter = civvie
16. BALAAM (Jephthah)<---voter = civvie
17. JOB (Esther)
18. JOB (Jonathan)<---voter = civvie
19. BALAAM (Judah)<---voter was the civvie smited after our second 3 civ stonings
20. DEBORAH (Deborah)
21. JOB (Belshazzar)<===VOTER = HORSEMAN

Not Voting: Barnabas (4), Bathsheba (3), Isaac (2), Jacob (2), Lot, Malchus (2)



DAY 4 RESULTS (alternate format):

2. JOB (Uzziah)<===VOTER = HEATHEN
6. JOB (Rachel)<---voter = NK'ed by heathens
8. JOB (Stephen)
9. JOB (Jonah)
10. JOB (Samuel)
12. JOB (Balaam)<---voter = NK'ed by JUDAS for the Heathens
17. JOB (Esther)
18. JOB (Jonathan)<---voter = civvie
21. JOB (Belshazzar)<===VOTER = HORSEMAN


3. BALAAM (Absalom)
4. BALAAM (Nicodemus)<---voter = NK'ed by heathens
7. BALAAM (Rebecca)
16. BALAAM (Jephthah)<---voter = civvie
19. BALAAM (Judah)<---voter was the civvie smited after our second 3 civ stonings


1. RACHEL (Pilate)
15. RACHEL (Job)<---voter = civvie


11. LAZARUS (Mordecai)<===VOTER = HEATHEN
14. LAZARUS (Rahab)


5. ABSALOM (Lazarus)

13. UZZIAH (Ruth)<===VOTER = HEATHEN

20. DEBORAH (Deborah)


Not Voting:
Barnabas (4)
Bathsheba (3)
Isaac (2)
Jacob (2)
Lot
Malchus (2)

Balaam wrote:DAY 5 Results:

1. UZZIAH (Pilate)
2. JEPHTHAH (Rebecca)
3. UZZIAH (Stephen)
4. UZZIAH (Absalom)
5. SAMUEL (Jephthah)<---voter = civvie
6. UZZIAH (Jonathan)<---voter = civvie
7. STEPHEN (Uzziah)<===VOTER = HEATHEN
8. JEPHTHAH (Lot)
9. UZZIAH (Esther)
10. JEPHTHAH (Samuel)
11. SAMUEL (Belshazzar)<===VOTER = HORSEMAN
12. UZZIAH (Ruth)<===VOTER = HEATHEN
13. ABSALOM (Lazarus)
14. UZZIAH (Rahab)
15. JEPHTHAH (Isaac)
16. UZZIAH (Rachel)<---voter = NK'ed by heathens
17. UZZIAH (Mordecai)<===VOTER = HEATHEN
18. MALCHUS (Deborah)
19. JEPHTHAH (Jonah)


Not Voting: Balaam, Bathsheba (4), Jacob (3), Judah (4), Malchus (3)




DAY 5 RESULTS (alternate format):

1. UZZIAH (Pilate)
3. UZZIAH (Stephen)
4. UZZIAH (Absalom)
6. UZZIAH (Jonathan)<---voter = civvie
9. UZZIAH (Esther)
12. UZZIAH (Ruth)<===VOTER = HEATHEN
14. UZZIAH (Rahab)
16. UZZIAH (Rachel)<---voter = NK'ed by heathens
17. UZZIAH (Mordecai)<===VOTER = HEATHEN


2. JEPHTHAH (Rebecca)
8. JEPHTHAH (Lot)
10. JEPHTHAH (Samuel)
15. JEPHTHAH (Isaac)
19. JEPHTHAH (Jonah)


5. SAMUEL (Jephthah)<---voter = civvie
11. SAMUEL (Belshazzar)<===VOTER = HORSEMAN


7. STEPHEN (Uzziah)<===VOTER = HEATHEN

13. ABSALOM (Lazarus)

18. MALCHUS (Deborah)

Not Voting:
Balaam
Bathsheba (4)
Jacob (3)
Judah (4)<---voter was the civvie smited after our second 3 civ stonings
Malchus (3)

Balaam wrote:DAY 6 Results:
1. RACHEL (Isaac)
2. RUTH (Absalom)
3. RUTH (Stephen)
4. ABSALOM (Pilate)
5. RUTH (Lot)
6. PILATE (Esther)
7. RUTH (Jephthah)<---voter = civvie
8. RACHEL (Rebecca)
9. RACHEL (Mordecai)<===VOTER = HEATHEN
10. PILATE (Rahab)
11. ABSALOM (Lazarus)
12. JACOB (Jonathan)<---voter = civvie
13. JACOB (Deborah)
14. RUTH (Rachel)<---voter = NK'ed by heathens
15. RACHEL (Jacob)
16. ABSALOM (Ruth)<===VOTER = HEATHEN
17. RUTH (Balaam)<---voter = NK'ed by JUDAS for the Heathens
18. RUTH (Belshazzar)<===VOTER = HORSEMAN
19. RUTH (Samuel)
20. RUTH (Bathsheba)

Not Voting: Jonah (2), Judah (5), Malchus (4)



DAY 6 RESULTS (alternate format):

2. RUTH (Absalom)
3. RUTH (Stephen)
5. RUTH (Lot)
7. RUTH (Jephthah)<---voter = civvie
14. RUTH (Rachel)<---voter = NK'ed by heathens
17. RUTH (Balaam)<---voter = NK'ed by JUDAS for the Heathens
18. RUTH (Belshazzar)<===VOTER = HORSEMAN
19. RUTH (Samuel)
20. RUTH (Bathsheba)


1. RACHEL (Isaac)
8. RACHEL (Rebecca)
9. RACHEL (Mordecai)<===VOTER = HEATHEN
15. RACHEL (Jacob)


4. ABSALOM (Pilate)
11. ABSALOM (Lazarus)
16. ABSALOM (Ruth)<===VOTER = HEATHEN

6. PILATE (Esther)
10. PILATE (Rahab)

12. JACOB (Jonathan)<---voter = civvie
13. JACOB (Deborah)

Not Voting:
Jonah (2)
Judah (5)<---voter was the civvie smited after our second 3 civ stonings
Malchus (4)

Day 7 Results:
1. JONATHAN (Absalom)
2. PILATE (Esther)
3. JONATHAN (Pilate)
4. REBECCA (Jephthah)<---voter = civvie
5. REBECCA (Jacob)
6. JONATHAN (Stephen)
7. PILATE (Rahab)
8. JEPHTHAH (Lot)
9. JEPHTHAH (Rebecca)
10. JEPHTHAH (Balaam)<---voter = NK'ed by JUDAS for the Heathens
11. JEPHTHAH (Samuel)
12. JEPHTHAH (Lazarus)
13. JEPHTHAH (Jonathan)<---voter = civvie
14. JONATHAN (Belshazzar)<===VOTER = HORSEMAN
15. JACOB (Rachel)<---voter = NK'ed by heathens
16. BALAAM (Mordecai)<===VOTER = HEATHEN

Not Voting:
Bathsheba (5), Deborah, Isaac (3), Jonah (3), Judah (6), Malchus (5)




DAY 7 RESULTS (alternate format):

8. JEPHTHAH (Lot)
9. JEPHTHAH (Rebecca)
10. JEPHTHAH (Balaam)<---voter = NK'ed by JUDAS for the Heathens
11. JEPHTHAH (Samuel)
12. JEPHTHAH (Lazarus)
13. JEPHTHAH (Jonathan)<---voter = civvie


1. JONATHAN (Absalom)
3. JONATHAN (Pilate)
6. JONATHAN (Stephen)
14. JONATHAN (Belshazzar)<===VOTER = HORSEMAN


2. PILATE (Esther)
7. PILATE (Rahab)


4. REBECCA (Jephthah)<---voter = civvie
5. REBECCA (Jacob)

15. JACOB (Rachel)<---voter = NK'ed by heathens

16. BALAAM (Mordecai)<===VOTER = HEATHEN

Not Voting:
Bathsheba (5)
Deborah
Isaac (3)
Jonah (3)
Judah (6)<---voter was the civvie smited after our second 3 civ stonings
Malchus (5)

Day 8 Results:
1. LAZARUS (Lot)
2. JONATHAN (Pilate)
3. JONATHAN (Stephen)
4. JONATHAN (Esther))
5. JONATHAN (Balaam)<---voter = NK'ed by JUDAS for the Heathens
6. JACOB (Rahab)
7. BALAAM (Mordecai)<===VOTER = HEATHEN
8. JACOB (Rachel)<---voter = NK'ed by heathens
9. JONATHAN (Absalom)
10. JONATHAN (Deborah)
11. JONATHAN (Belshazzar)<===VOTER = HORSEMAN
12. JONATHAN (Jacob)
13. JONATHAN (Jonah)
14. LAZARUS (Lazarus)
15. JONATHAN (Samuel)

Not Voting: Bathsheba (6), Isaac (4),Jonathan, Judah (7), Malchus (6), Rebecca


DAY 8 RESULTS (alternate format):

2. JONATHAN (Pilate)
3. JONATHAN (Stephen)
4. JONATHAN (Esther))
5. JONATHAN (Balaam)<---voter = NK'ed by JUDAS for the Heathens
9. JONATHAN (Absalom)
10. JONATHAN (Deborah)
11. JONATHAN (Belshazzar)<===VOTER = HORSEMAN
12. JONATHAN (Jacob)
13. JONATHAN (Jonah)
15. JONATHAN (Samuel)


6. JACOB (Rahab)
8. JACOB (Rachel)<---voter = NK'ed by heathens


1. LAZARUS (Lot)
14. LAZARUS (Lazarus)

7. BALAAM (Mordecai)<===VOTER = HEATHEN

Not Voting:
Bathsheba (6)
Isaac (4)
Jonathan<---voter = civvie
Judah (7)<---voter was the civvie smited after our second 3 civ stonings
Malchus (6)
Rebecca

Balaam wrote:And now for the Day 9 Results:

1. LAZARUS (Lot)
2. ISAAC (Isaac)
3. MORDECAI (Absalom)
4. MORDECAI (Pilate)
5. ISAAC (Esther)
6. ISAAC (Rahab)
7. MORDECAI (Stephen)
8. LOT (Lazarus)
9. ISAAC (Belshazzar)<===VOTER = HORSEMAN
10. ISAAC (Samuel)
11. MORDECAI (Jacob)
12. PILATE (Mordecai)<===VOTER = HEATHEN
13. MORDECAI (Samson)<---voter = civvie (wtf zombie vote????)

Not voting: Balaam (2), Bathsheba (7), Deborah (2), Jonah (4), Malchus (7), Rebecca (2)




DAY 9 RESULTS (alternate format):
3. MORDECAI (Absalom)
4. MORDECAI (Pilate)
7. MORDECAI (Stephen)
11. MORDECAI (Jacob)
13. MORDECAI (Samson)<---voter = civvie (wtf zombie vote????)


2. ISAAC (Isaac)
5. ISAAC (Esther)
6. ISAAC (Rahab)
9. ISAAC (Belshazzar)<===VOTER = HORSEMAN
10. ISAAC (Samuel)


1. LAZARUS (Lot)

8. LOT (Lazarus)

12. PILATE (Mordecai)<===VOTER = HEATHEN

Not Voting:
Balaam (2)<---voter = NK'ed by JUDAS for the Heathens
Bathsheba (7)
Deborah (2)
Jonah (4)
Malchus (7)
Rebecca (2)


HOST: Are you able to tell us yea or nay on whether Samson's vote counted?

Balaam wrote:Day 10 Results:

1. BELSHAZZAR (Absalom)
2. LAZARUS (Lot)
3. BELSHAZZAR (Isaac)
4. LOT (Lazarus)
5. BELSHAZZAR (Pilate)
6. ISAAC (Stephen)
7. BELSHAZZAR (Jacob)
8. STEPHEN (Samson)<---voter = civvie (wtf zombie vote????)
9. PILATE (Esther)
10. ISAAC (Rahab)
11. BELSHAZZAR (Deborah)
12. REBECCA (Belshazzar)<===VOTER = HORSEMAN
13. ISAAC (Rebecca)
14. BELSHAZZAR (Balaam)<---voter = NK'ed by JUDAS for the Heathens

Not Voting: Bathsheba (8), Jonah (5), Malchus (8), Samuel (2)




DAY 10 RESULTS (alternate format):
1. BELSHAZZAR (Absalom)
3. BELSHAZZAR (Isaac)
5. BELSHAZZAR (Pilate)
7. BELSHAZZAR (Jacob)
11. BELSHAZZAR (Deborah)
14. BELSHAZZAR (Balaam)<---voter = NK'ed by JUDAS for the Heathens


6. ISAAC (Stephen)
10. ISAAC (Rahab)
13. ISAAC (Rebecca)


2. LAZARUS (Lot)

4. LOT (Lazarus)

8. STEPHEN (Samson)<---voter = civvie (wtf zombie vote????)

9. PILATE (Esther)

12. REBECCA (Belshazzar)<===VOTER = HORSEMAN

Not Voting:
Bathsheba (8)
Jonah (5)
Malchus (8)
Samuel (2)

DAY 11 (or Second Mafioso: Day 1)

1. LAZARUS (Lot)
2. RUTH (Isaac)
3. RUTH (Stephen)
4. RUTH (Absalom)
5. ISAAC (Rahab)
6. ISAAC (Rebecca)
7. RUTH (Bathsheba)
8. BATHSHEBA (Esther)
9. ISAAC (Deborah)
10. RUTH (Jacob)
11. ISAAC (Ruth)<===VOTER = STILL HEATHEN
12. ISAAC (Samuel)

Not Voting: Jonah (6), Lazarus (2), Malchus (9), Pilate (3)



DAY 11 RESULTS (alternate format)

2. RUTH (Isaac)
3. RUTH (Stephen)
4. RUTH (Absalom)
7. RUTH (Bathsheba)
10. RUTH (Jacob)


5. ISAAC (Rahab)
6. ISAAC (Rebecca)
9. ISAAC (Deborah)
11. ISAAC (Ruth)<===VOTER = STILL HEATHEN
12. ISAAC (Samuel)

1. LAZARUS (Lot)

8. BATHSHEBA (Esther)

Not Voting:
Jonah (6)
Lazarus (2)
Malchus (9)
Pilate (3)

Absalom wrote:I am happy now. Who are we lynching today? Lazarus? Isaac?

I'll be honest, the late train on Isaac (looking at you, Spacedaisy) makes me not want to vote for him very much.

It looks like Lazarus never showed yesterday, so I'm fairly comfortable leaving him at least another day.

I agree with you that the train on Isaac leaves me fairly comfortable leaving him another day.

I'm feeling pretty civ about Rahab - I'm certain I know who is behind the sock and I think they know who I am too, which is why I think they were taking my lead on Isaac. But Rebecca, Deborah and Samuel all look snaky and in my opinion the worst of all over the last few votes is Samuel but, Isaac, I will be bringing out the technicolour vote lists shortly and you can all see.

@Bathsheba - I actually think Laz may have only voted for me twice at this point, maybe three times, but again I'll do those lists and see. The longer he just misses votes, the longer I'm ok delaying his lynch, because I'm only really worried when it starts getting up to four or five.

Not to mention Deborah!

Wow. That was very interesting indeed.

As much as I have been thinking Isaac is bad - Rebecca, Ruth, Samuel... a who's who of people without the best voting records... that looked an awful lot like a save could have gone in. And this late in the game, they might be feeling like a single lynch could swing it...

If Ruth survives this and we discover Isaac is a vanilla civvie, I'd say Samuel and Rebecca would be a very good place to look for heathen.

Absalom, all I ask is that whatever comes, you vote Lazarus tomorrow (even if Ruth survives today - I hope she does not if she is in fact the personw ith the most votes).

For me, it's a win/win. Either he is bad, or he is going to lynch me. Plus it will free up my vote to be useful. When I have my vote, my voice is less important.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Would you kindly eat my shorts.

Yes, but only if they are behind a spoiler tag.

Putting important information behind spoiler tags is not on my agenda, no. Think it's something the heathen would like me to do, which might be why you didn't put your sock on.

If I'm doing long quotes to respond to them, that's one thing. Vote analysis, I'm not going to hide.

Oops, quote fail. I'm just gonna quote Balaam's most recent one each time and add in the new info.

Also, I feel a little better about a Ruth vote after her last post. Apparently she knows death's win condition? And it makes a lot of logical sense. Unfortunately for Ruth, it also justifies rezzing her without it being a trap.

I mean, I guess that could be the idea... and I still believe Ruth IS belshazzar, not whoever Ruth used to be.

I'd still strongly prefer we wait a day and lynch someone else first, but it won't be on my head. If it's a trap for anyone, I think it's one of two kinds. Either a) Ruth just doesn't die (which I think is the most likely outcome) or b) It rebounds on to a Ruth voter.

I may as well take over from Balaam on the technicolour list front, so here is where we are at:

DAY 1 RESULTS:

1. SAMUEL (Paul)<---voter = NK'ed by heathens
2. SAMUEL (Samson)<---voter = civvie
3. LOT (Gideon)<---voter = NK'ed by heathens
4. UZZIAH (Pilate)
5. REBECCA (Rachel)<---voter = NK'ed by heathens
6. PAUL (Martha)<---voter = NK'ed by heathens
7. BARNABAS (Stephen)
8. UZZIAH (Job) <---voter = civvie
9. SAMSON (Mordecai)<===VOTER = HEATHEN
10. SAMSON (Mary Mag)<---voter = civvie
11. ABSALOM (Cain)<---voter = civvie
12. CAIN (Deborah)
13. CAIN (Absalom)
14. SAMSON (Isaac)
15. SAMSON (Jacob)
16. JEPHTHA (Rebecca)
17. ABSALOM (Malchus)
18. SAMSON (Jonathan)<---voter = civvie
19. MARY MAG (Jonah)
20. SAMSON (Belshazzar)<===VOTER = HORSEMAN
21. SAMSON (Samuel)
22. CAIN (Uzziah)<===VOTER = HEATHEN
23. JEPHTHAH (Lot)
24. PAUL (Nicodemus)<---voter = NK'ed by heathens
25. CAIN (Ruth)<===VOTER = HEATHEN
26. GIDEON (Hagar)<---voter was the civvie smited after our first 3 civ stonings
27. MARY MAG (Jephthah)<---voter = civvie
28. UZZIAH (Rahab)
29. CAIN (Balaam)<---voter = NK'ed by JUDAS for the Heathens

Not Voting: Barnabas, Bathsheba, Esther, Judah, Lazarus



DAY 1 RESULTS (alternate format):

9. SAMSON (Mordecai)<===VOTER = HEATHEN
10. SAMSON (Mary Mag)<---voter = civvie
14. SAMSON (Isaac)
15. SAMSON (Jacob)
18. SAMSON (Jonathan)<---voter = civvie
20. SAMSON (Belshazzar)<===VOTER = HORSEMAN
21. SAMSON (Samuel)


12. CAIN (Deborah)
13. CAIN (Absalom)
22. CAIN (Uzziah)<===VOTER = HEATHEN
25. CAIN (Ruth)<===VOTER = HEATHEN
29. CAIN (Balaam)<---voter = NK'ed by JUDAS for the Heathens


4. UZZIAH (Pilate)
8. UZZIAH (Job) <---voter = civvie
28. UZZIAH (Rahab)


1. SAMUEL (Paul)<---voter = NK'ed by heathens
2. SAMUEL (Samson)<---voter = civvie


6. PAUL (Martha)<---voter = NK'ed by heathens
24. PAUL (Nicodemus)<---voter = NK'ed by heathens


11. ABSALOM (Cain)<---voter = civvie
17. ABSALOM (Malchus)


16. JEPHTHA (Rebecca)
23. JEPHTHAH (Lot)


19. MARY MAG (Jonah)
27. MARY MAG (Jephthah)<---voter = civvie

3. LOT (Gideon)<---voter = NK'ed by heathens

5. REBECCA (Rachel)<---voter = NK'ed by heathens

7. BARNABAS (Stephen)

26. GIDEON (Hagar)<---voter was the civvie smited after our first 3 civ stonings


Not Voting:
Barnabas
Bathsheba
Esther
Judah<---voter was the civvie smote after our second 3 civ stonings
Lazarus
[/quote]

Balaam wrote:Day 2 Results:

1. JOB (Uzziah)<===VOTER = HEATHEN
2. UZZIAH (Job)<---voter = civvie
3. JOB (Rachel)<---voter = NK'ed by heathens
4. CAIN (Paul)<---voter = NK'ed by heathens
5. CAIN (Absalom)
6. CAIN (Belshazzar)<===VOTER = HORSEMAN
7. CAIN (Deborah)
8. CAIN (Malchus)
9. UZZIAH (Lot)
10. CAIN (Rahab)
11. STEPHEN (Stephen)
12. CAIN (Balaam)<---voter = NK'ed by JUDAS for the Heathens
13. JEPHTHAH (Rebecca)
14. ABSALOM (Lazarus)
15. UZZIAH (Jonathan)<---voter = civvie
16. CAIN (Bathsheba)

Not Voting: Barnabas (2), Cain, Esther (2), Gideon, Hagar, Isaac, Jacob, Jephthah, Jonah, Judah (2), Mary Mag, Mordecai, Nicodemus, Pilate, Ruth, Samuel



DAY 2 RESULTS (alternate format):

4. CAIN (Paul)<---voter = NK'ed by heathens
5. CAIN (Absalom)
6. CAIN (Belshazzar)<===VOTER = HORSEMAN
7. CAIN (Deborah)
8. CAIN (Malchus)
10. CAIN (Rahab)
12. CAIN (Balaam)<---voter = NK'ed by JUDAS for the Heathens
16. CAIN (Bathsheba)


2. UZZIAH (Job)<---voter = civvie
9. UZZIAH (Lot)
15. UZZIAH (Jonathan)<---voter = civvie


1. JOB (Uzziah)<===VOTER = HEATHEN
3. JOB (Rachel)<---voter = NK'ed by heathens


11. STEPHEN (Stephen)

13. JEPHTHAH (Rebecca)

14. ABSALOM (Lazarus)



Not Voting:
Barnabas (2)
Cain<---voter = civvie
Esther (2)
Gideon<---voter = NK'ed by heathens
Hagar<---voter was the civvie smited after our first 3 civ stonings
Isaac
Jacob
Jephthah<---voter = civvie
Jonah
Judah (2)<---voter was the civvie smited after our second 3 civ stonings
Mary Mag<---voter = civvie
Mordecai<===VOTER = HEATHEN
Nicodemus<---voter = NK'ed by heathens
Pilate
Ruth<===VOTER = HEATHEN
Samuel

Balaam wrote:DAY 3 Results:

1. UZZIAH (Job)<---voter = civvie
2. JOB (Uzziah)<===VOTER = HEATHEN
3. RACHEL (Lot)
4. RACHEL (Mary Mag)<---voter = civvie
5. UZZIAH (Nicodemus)<---voter = NK'ed by heathens
6. LAZARUS (Mordecai)<===VOTER = HEATHEN
7. JOB (Isaac)
8. RAHAB (Jonah)
9. UZZIAH (Absalom)
10. MARY MAG (Rebecca)
11. LAZARUS (Jonathan)<---voter = civvie
12. LAZARUS (Gideon)<---voter = NK'ed by heathens
13. MARY MAG (Jacob)
14. MARY MAG (Belshazzar)<===VOTER = HORSEMAN
15. MARY MAG (Jephthah)<---voter = civvie
16. MARY MAG (Deborah)
17. JOB (Rachel)<---voter = NK'ed by heathens
18. JOB (Esther)
19. ABSALOM (Lazarus)
20. UZZIAH (Rahab)
21. MARY MAG (Ruth)<===VOTER = HEATHEN
22. MARY MAG (Balaam)<---voter = NK'ed by JUDAS for the Heathens

Day 3 Not Voting: Barnabas (3), Bathsheba (2), Hagar (2), Judah (3), Malchus, Pilate (2), Samuel (2), Stephen



DAY 3 RESULTS (alternate format):

10. MARY MAG (Rebecca)
13. MARY MAG (Jacob)
14. MARY MAG (Belshazzar)<===VOTER = HORSEMAN
15. MARY MAG (Jephthah)<---voter = civvie
16. MARY MAG (Deborah)
21. MARY MAG (Ruth)<===VOTER = HEATHEN
22. MARY MAG (Balaam)<---voter = NK'ed by JUDAS for the Heathens


1. UZZIAH (Job)<---voter = civvie
5. UZZIAH (Nicodemus)<---voter = NK'ed by heathens
9. UZZIAH (Absalom)
20. UZZIAH (Rahab)


2. JOB (Uzziah)<===VOTER = HEATHEN
7. JOB (Isaac)
17. JOB (Rachel)<---voter = NK'ed by heathens
18. JOB (Esther)


6. LAZARUS (Mordecai)<===VOTER = HEATHEN
11. LAZARUS (Jonathan)<---voter = civvie
12. LAZARUS (Gideon)<---voter = NK'ed by heathens


3. RACHEL (Lot)
4. RACHEL (Mary Mag)<---voter = civvie

8. RAHAB (Jonah)

19. ABSALOM (Lazarus)

Day 3 Not Voting:
Barnabas (3)
Bathsheba (2)
Hagar (2)<---voter was the civvie smited after our first 3 civ stonings
Judah (3)<---voter was the civvie smited after our second 3 civ stonings
Malchus
Pilate (2)
Samuel (2)
Stephen

Balaam wrote:DAY 4 Results:

1. RACHEL (Pilate)
2. JOB (Uzziah)<===VOTER = HEATHEN
3. BALAAM (Absalom)
4. BALAAM (Nicodemus)<---voter = NK'ed by heathens
5. ABSALOM (Lazarus)
6. JOB (Rachel)<---voter = NK'ed by heathens
7. BALAAM (Rebecca)
8. JOB (Stephen)
9. JOB (Jonah)
10. JOB (Samuel)
11. LAZARUS (Mordecai)<===VOTER = HEATHEN
12. JOB (Balaam)<---voter = NK'ed by JUDAS for the Heathens
13. UZZIAH (Ruth)<===VOTER = HEATHEN
14. LAZARUS (Rahab)
15. RACHEL (Job)<---voter = civvie
16. BALAAM (Jephthah)<---voter = civvie
17. JOB (Esther)
18. JOB (Jonathan)<---voter = civvie
19. BALAAM (Judah)<---voter was the civvie smited after our second 3 civ stonings
20. DEBORAH (Deborah)
21. JOB (Belshazzar)<===VOTER = HORSEMAN

Not Voting: Barnabas (4), Bathsheba (3), Isaac (2), Jacob (2), Lot, Malchus (2)



DAY 4 RESULTS (alternate format):

2. JOB (Uzziah)<===VOTER = HEATHEN
6. JOB (Rachel)<---voter = NK'ed by heathens
8. JOB (Stephen)
9. JOB (Jonah)
10. JOB (Samuel)
12. JOB (Balaam)<---voter = NK'ed by JUDAS for the Heathens
17. JOB (Esther)
18. JOB (Jonathan)<---voter = civvie
21. JOB (Belshazzar)<===VOTER = HORSEMAN


3. BALAAM (Absalom)
4. BALAAM (Nicodemus)<---voter = NK'ed by heathens
7. BALAAM (Rebecca)
16. BALAAM (Jephthah)<---voter = civvie
19. BALAAM (Judah)<---voter was the civvie smited after our second 3 civ stonings


1. RACHEL (Pilate)
15. RACHEL (Job)<---voter = civvie


11. LAZARUS (Mordecai)<===VOTER = HEATHEN
14. LAZARUS (Rahab)


5. ABSALOM (Lazarus)

13. UZZIAH (Ruth)<===VOTER = HEATHEN

20. DEBORAH (Deborah)


Not Voting:
Barnabas (4)
Bathsheba (3)
Isaac (2)
Jacob (2)
Lot
Malchus (2)

Balaam wrote:DAY 5 Results:

1. UZZIAH (Pilate)
2. JEPHTHAH (Rebecca)
3. UZZIAH (Stephen)
4. UZZIAH (Absalom)
5. SAMUEL (Jephthah)<---voter = civvie
6. UZZIAH (Jonathan)<---voter = civvie
7. STEPHEN (Uzziah)<===VOTER = HEATHEN
8. JEPHTHAH (Lot)
9. UZZIAH (Esther)
10. JEPHTHAH (Samuel)
11. SAMUEL (Belshazzar)<===VOTER = HORSEMAN
12. UZZIAH (Ruth)<===VOTER = HEATHEN
13. ABSALOM (Lazarus)
14. UZZIAH (Rahab)
15. JEPHTHAH (Isaac)
16. UZZIAH (Rachel)<---voter = NK'ed by heathens
17. UZZIAH (Mordecai)<===VOTER = HEATHEN
18. MALCHUS (Deborah)
19. JEPHTHAH (Jonah)


Not Voting: Balaam, Bathsheba (4), Jacob (3), Judah (4), Malchus (3)




DAY 5 RESULTS (alternate format):

1. UZZIAH (Pilate)
3. UZZIAH (Stephen)
4. UZZIAH (Absalom)
6. UZZIAH (Jonathan)<---voter = civvie
9. UZZIAH (Esther)
12. UZZIAH (Ruth)<===VOTER = HEATHEN
14. UZZIAH (Rahab)
16. UZZIAH (Rachel)<---voter = NK'ed by heathens
17. UZZIAH (Mordecai)<===VOTER = HEATHEN


2. JEPHTHAH (Rebecca)
8. JEPHTHAH (Lot)
10. JEPHTHAH (Samuel)
15. JEPHTHAH (Isaac)
19. JEPHTHAH (Jonah)


5. SAMUEL (Jephthah)<---voter = civvie
11. SAMUEL (Belshazzar)<===VOTER = HORSEMAN


7. STEPHEN (Uzziah)<===VOTER = HEATHEN

13. ABSALOM (Lazarus)

18. MALCHUS (Deborah)

Not Voting:
Balaam
Bathsheba (4)
Jacob (3)
Judah (4)<---voter was the civvie smited after our second 3 civ stonings
Malchus (3)

Balaam wrote:DAY 6 Results:
1. RACHEL (Isaac)
2. RUTH (Absalom)
3. RUTH (Stephen)
4. ABSALOM (Pilate)
5. RUTH (Lot)
6. PILATE (Esther)
7. RUTH (Jephthah)<---voter = civvie
8. RACHEL (Rebecca)
9. RACHEL (Mordecai)<===VOTER = HEATHEN
10. PILATE (Rahab)
11. ABSALOM (Lazarus)
12. JACOB (Jonathan)<---voter = civvie
13. JACOB (Deborah)
14. RUTH (Rachel)<---voter = NK'ed by heathens
15. RACHEL (Jacob)
16. ABSALOM (Ruth)<===VOTER = HEATHEN
17. RUTH (Balaam)<---voter = NK'ed by JUDAS for the Heathens
18. RUTH (Belshazzar)<===VOTER = HORSEMAN
19. RUTH (Samuel)
20. RUTH (Bathsheba)

Not Voting: Jonah (2), Judah (5), Malchus (4)



DAY 6 RESULTS (alternate format):

2. RUTH (Absalom)
3. RUTH (Stephen)
5. RUTH (Lot)
7. RUTH (Jephthah)<---voter = civvie
14. RUTH (Rachel)<---voter = NK'ed by heathens
17. RUTH (Balaam)<---voter = NK'ed by JUDAS for the Heathens
18. RUTH (Belshazzar)<===VOTER = HORSEMAN
19. RUTH (Samuel)
20. RUTH (Bathsheba)


1. RACHEL (Isaac)
8. RACHEL (Rebecca)
9. RACHEL (Mordecai)<===VOTER = HEATHEN
15. RACHEL (Jacob)


4. ABSALOM (Pilate)
11. ABSALOM (Lazarus)
16. ABSALOM (Ruth)<===VOTER = HEATHEN

6. PILATE (Esther)
10. PILATE (Rahab)

12. JACOB (Jonathan)<---voter = civvie
13. JACOB (Deborah)

Not Voting:
Jonah (2)
Judah (5)<---voter was the civvie smited after our second 3 civ stonings
Malchus (4)

Day 7 Results:
1. JONATHAN (Absalom)
2. PILATE (Esther)
3. JONATHAN (Pilate)
4. REBECCA (Jephthah)<---voter = civvie
5. REBECCA (Jacob)
6. JONATHAN (Stephen)
7. PILATE (Rahab)
8. JEPHTHAH (Lot)
9. JEPHTHAH (Rebecca)
10. JEPHTHAH (Balaam)<---voter = NK'ed by JUDAS for the Heathens
11. JEPHTHAH (Samuel)
12. JEPHTHAH (Lazarus)
13. JEPHTHAH (Jonathan)<---voter = civvie
14. JONATHAN (Belshazzar)<===VOTER = HORSEMAN
15. JACOB (Rachel)<---voter = NK'ed by heathens
16. BALAAM (Mordecai)<===VOTER = HEATHEN

Not Voting:
Bathsheba (5), Deborah, Isaac (3), Jonah (3), Judah (6), Malchus (5)




DAY 7 RESULTS (alternate format):

8. JEPHTHAH (Lot)
9. JEPHTHAH (Rebecca)
10. JEPHTHAH (Balaam)<---voter = NK'ed by JUDAS for the Heathens
11. JEPHTHAH (Samuel)
12. JEPHTHAH (Lazarus)
13. JEPHTHAH (Jonathan)<---voter = civvie


1. JONATHAN (Absalom)
3. JONATHAN (Pilate)
6. JONATHAN (Stephen)
14. JONATHAN (Belshazzar)<===VOTER = HORSEMAN


2. PILATE (Esther)
7. PILATE (Rahab)


4. REBECCA (Jephthah)<---voter = civvie
5. REBECCA (Jacob)

15. JACOB (Rachel)<---voter = NK'ed by heathens

16. BALAAM (Mordecai)<===VOTER = HEATHEN

Not Voting:
Bathsheba (5)
Deborah
Isaac (3)
Jonah (3)
Judah (6)<---voter was the civvie smited after our second 3 civ stonings
Malchus (5)

Day 8 Results:
1. LAZARUS (Lot)
2. JONATHAN (Pilate)
3. JONATHAN (Stephen)
4. JONATHAN (Esther))
5. JONATHAN (Balaam)<---voter = NK'ed by JUDAS for the Heathens
6. JACOB (Rahab)
7. BALAAM (Mordecai)<===VOTER = HEATHEN
8. JACOB (Rachel)<---voter = NK'ed by heathens
9. JONATHAN (Absalom)
10. JONATHAN (Deborah)
11. JONATHAN (Belshazzar)<===VOTER = HORSEMAN
12. JONATHAN (Jacob)
13. JONATHAN (Jonah)
14. LAZARUS (Lazarus)
15. JONATHAN (Samuel)

Not Voting: Bathsheba (6), Isaac (4),Jonathan, Judah (7), Malchus (6), Rebecca


DAY 8 RESULTS (alternate format):

2. JONATHAN (Pilate)
3. JONATHAN (Stephen)
4. JONATHAN (Esther))
5. JONATHAN (Balaam)<---voter = NK'ed by JUDAS for the Heathens
9. JONATHAN (Absalom)
10. JONATHAN (Deborah)
11. JONATHAN (Belshazzar)<===VOTER = HORSEMAN
12. JONATHAN (Jacob)
13. JONATHAN (Jonah)
15. JONATHAN (Samuel)


6. JACOB (Rahab)
8. JACOB (Rachel)<---voter = NK'ed by heathens


1. LAZARUS (Lot)
14. LAZARUS (Lazarus)

7. BALAAM (Mordecai)<===VOTER = HEATHEN

Not Voting:
Bathsheba (6)
Isaac (4)
Jonathan<---voter = civvie
Judah (7)<---voter was the civvie smited after our second 3 civ stonings
Malchus (6)
Rebecca

Balaam wrote:And now for the Day 9 Results:

1. LAZARUS (Lot)
2. ISAAC (Isaac)
3. MORDECAI (Absalom)
4. MORDECAI (Pilate)
5. ISAAC (Esther)
6. ISAAC (Rahab)
7. MORDECAI (Stephen)
8. LOT (Lazarus)
9. ISAAC (Belshazzar)<===VOTER = HORSEMAN
10. ISAAC (Samuel)
11. MORDECAI (Jacob)
12. PILATE (Mordecai)<===VOTER = HEATHEN
13. MORDECAI (Samson)<---voter = civvie (wtf zombie vote????)

Not voting: Balaam (2), Bathsheba (7), Deborah (2), Jonah (4), Malchus (7), Rebecca (2)




DAY 9 RESULTS (alternate format):
3. MORDECAI (Absalom)
4. MORDECAI (Pilate)
7. MORDECAI (Stephen)
11. MORDECAI (Jacob)
13. MORDECAI (Samson)<---voter = civvie (wtf zombie vote????)


2. ISAAC (Isaac)
5. ISAAC (Esther)
6. ISAAC (Rahab)
9. ISAAC (Belshazzar)<===VOTER = HORSEMAN
10. ISAAC (Samuel)


1. LAZARUS (Lot)

8. LOT (Lazarus)

12. PILATE (Mordecai)<===VOTER = HEATHEN

Not Voting:
Balaam (2)<---voter = NK'ed by JUDAS for the Heathens
Bathsheba (7)
Deborah (2)
Jonah (4)
Malchus (7)
Rebecca (2)


HOST: Are you able to tell us yea or nay on whether Samson's vote counted?

Balaam wrote:Day 10 Results:

1. BELSHAZZAR (Absalom)
2. LAZARUS (Lot)
3. BELSHAZZAR (Isaac)
4. LOT (Lazarus)
5. BELSHAZZAR (Pilate)
6. ISAAC (Stephen)
7. BELSHAZZAR (Jacob)
8. STEPHEN (Samson)<---voter = civvie (wtf zombie vote????)
9. PILATE (Esther)
10. ISAAC (Rahab)
11. BELSHAZZAR (Deborah)
12. REBECCA (Belshazzar)<===VOTER = HORSEMAN
13. ISAAC (Rebecca)
14. BELSHAZZAR (Balaam)<---voter = NK'ed by JUDAS for the Heathens

Not Voting: Bathsheba (8), Jonah (5), Malchus (8), Samuel (2)




DAY 10 RESULTS (alternate format):
1. BELSHAZZAR (Absalom)
3. BELSHAZZAR (Isaac)
5. BELSHAZZAR (Pilate)
7. BELSHAZZAR (Jacob)
11. BELSHAZZAR (Deborah)
14. BELSHAZZAR (Balaam)<---voter = NK'ed by JUDAS for the Heathens


6. ISAAC (Stephen)
10. ISAAC (Rahab)
13. ISAAC (Rebecca)


2. LAZARUS (Lot)

4. LOT (Lazarus)

8. STEPHEN (Samson)<---voter = civvie (wtf zombie vote????)

9. PILATE (Esther)

12. REBECCA (Belshazzar)<===VOTER = HORSEMAN

Not Voting:
Bathsheba (8)
Jonah (5)
Malchus (8)
Samuel (2)

I'm not thinking from an extreme. I'm very open to any outcome that nets us a baddie.

I am trying to argue in favour of thinking things through and taking care. This is not an extreme. This is common sense. Believing Ruth could be a trap is having an open mind, not a closed one. I'm not determined that I'm right, I just think it would be safer to lose Ruth for a day. If we catch a heathen today as well (and it appears with Judas now in the mix there are three to find) then there is literally no downside.

OK - do whatever... I told you that ages ago. If you have no inclination to change your mind, stop playing a game with me. I don't have any energy to be fighting you in the thread.

I'll be back after the lynch, I can't be bothered being back before then.

Absalom wrote:

Lot wrote:

Absalom wrote:

Lot wrote: @absalom - how do we know?

My point exactly.

No... MY point exactly.

That's why I don't want to lynch Ruth right now. And what, she can't wait? If she is heathen and nothing to do with death, she can't keep until tomorrow? I honestly wouldn't be surprised if she goes away by herself. If she is still here tomorrow, I'd be on board with going for it then, but I wouldn't be surprised to see that we were playing straight into Death's hands voting for her today.

Why do you think lynching her tomorrow will be consequence-free?

I don't think lynching her today will be consequence free. There is a big difference. I don't even know that she will still be around tomorrow to lynch, if Death's plot fails she might just vanish again. I THINK SHE IS A DECOY, SET UP BY BELSHAZZAR, TO GET HIMSELF MORE POWER/BACK INTO THE GAME.

Belshazzar is friggin DEATH! I don't trust that he just died and went quietly into the night. What would you do with him if you were designing this game? Have you designed games? All I'm saying is, I know how I would design him.

But, as I've said - whatever. You have this idea that I am 'overthinking'.

You can't give any reason for voting Ruth other than 'she is heathen'. you don't have any reason why she must die today. You just want to lynch Ruth because you want things the way you want them. What's the urgency? I don't know why you wouldn't think and play it safe.

Absalom wrote:

Lot wrote: @absalom - how do we know?

My point exactly.

No... MY point exactly.

That's why I don't want to lynch Ruth right now. And what, she can't wait? If she is heathen and nothing to do with death, she can't keep until tomorrow? I honestly wouldn't be surprised if she goes away by herself. If she is still here tomorrow, I'd be on board with going for it then, but I wouldn't be surprised to see that we were playing straight into Death's hands voting for her today.

I didn't push at all against Mordecai. I did push hard against Isaac because I caught him in a boldfaced lie - something most people didn't bother to read. I just find this game too tiring right now. It's pointless being in the thread because neither my words nor my vote have value.

And because no-one believes me that Lazarus is bad, which (if they are all right) means they are not at all interested in having me here either. Why should I put in a whole lot of effort when people right now are basically saying 'yes, you are going to be lynched. We don't want to help. Bye!

I'm either right and no-one will listen, or I'm wrong and people don't see me as being more valuable than someone who is barely bothering to play. Either way - why be here?

@absalom - how do we know?

OK, whatever, have it your way.

I've made my points, I'm not going to argue forever. If you want it your way, have it your way. I don't actually have a voice OR a vote in this game, I haven't for probably about 10 days, I'm not actually sure what the point of me being here is.

FWIW, Balaam was off the poll back on day whatever because I had the opportunity to take him off it.

Who wanted to lynch Cain? Jonathan????

You've led SO MANY lynches in this game.... that it's literally impossible to drown your voice out no matter how hard anyone tries. If you say the word, it will be. Don't you think it's time you were a bit careful with that?

I think Belshazzar was probably Samson, and he probably wanted to tie the vote to prevent any lynch from happening that day and mess us around. I think he wants us to fail at lynches.

But mostly, I just want everyone to get out from under the spell of Absalom and realise that just because you say something doesn't mean it doesn't deserve THOUGHT. You still can be wrong, and rushing headlong into things is not a good idea.

And Pilate, by tomorrow or the next day you will have to make a call whether you want me or Lazarus more. Your call. That's just how it's going to be, unless we can get War dead and stop a vicious cycle.

@absalom - when did I want to protect Belshazzar????? In case you haven't noticed, when you've been right (Ruth, Belshazzar) I've been on your side. Did you miss all day yesterday me saying 'I think Belshazzar is a one shot' and being absolutely completely on your side????

Common sense. The reason she is back is the interference of a horseman. Why WOULDN'T we let it playout. Why would a horseman bring a heathen back... just to delay us a day? To assist the heathen in winning? That doesn't make any sense. He did it because it's suits HIS purposes.

I think Ruth is probably Heathen, I just think she either a) won't die and we will waste another day or b) one or more civilians will die instead. We are messing with DEATH here.

I am not with you at all Absalom.

You have managed to control this thread day after day after day after day. Well done, by the way. You've been doing it since day 2, and you never stopped.

I bet you are heathen, and you've been throwing teammates under the bus.

But at this point, I think it's game over for the civs anyway.

I'm feeling quite frustrated at how out of hand this is. People like Isaac and Deborah should have died a long time ago yet they haven't. I just don't get it. It's actually a waste of time me even playing, because I just get overruled by Absalom anyway.

You guys walk like fools into Death's trap. I'll be lynched tomorrow anyway by Lazarus, no doubt.

Isaac wrote:If you're not being mind controlled, then you're okay with dying to prove he's civ, and living to prove he's bad? Is it all that worth it when no one else is voting for him?

No, but YOU might be ok with that, since I've been going after you for do long.

If he is civ, I'd prefer he died to prove he is civ, and I lived, since I'm actually making an effort to help win the civs the game, and he is just popping in to vote.

Isaac, if you even have to ask that question...

It's blatantly obvious why. I've made it incredibly clear. And I don't think any better of you for not paying attention.

Well, on Isaac I've always felt his voting patterns look terrible and there has never really been anything he has yet done to persuade me he is civilian. I note, for instance, that there are STILL no new apostle activations, despite Isaac claiming to be a vanilla one. It seems to me at this point that the odds of him being heathen are strong.

On Lazarus, I see two possibilities. One is that he is Simon the Zealot, in which case within a couple of days I will be lynched. He will then be a confirmed civ, but I will be dead. The other possibility is that Martha is Simon the Zealot and Neb knows this so that Lazarus could fake it. If that is true, I wouldn't be lynched by leaving him alive, but he would be heathen.

Basically, on Lazarus, it's either:

He's bad and I survive; or
He's good and I die

So for me, I see merit in lynching him either way.

Also, Lazarus is the way I'm going to vote - see previous votes for why.

I always suspected Judas secret was that he'd be a heathen recruit. The most obvious choice. In which case, for the first time this game, I feel doomed. Especially since I lost my buddy Balaam. Oh who am I kidding, he was an ass.

As backwards as this sounds, I'd actually advocate not lynching Ruth today. At worst she seems likely to be chaos. At best, she has been deliberately put in the thread so we'll waste a lynch on her when she actually only survives for a short period of time or something. We can deal with her later, I think.

I'd sooner be looking at Isaac or Lazarus today.

Bathsheba - it's nice to have you back, but could you please give a brief synopsis of what has been happening to you this game? It's difficult to read a post like your last one which suggests you've been reading and keeping up when other factors don't appear that way.

Could Ruth be heathen? Sure

But I tend to think she might be Belshazzar.

Jacob wrote:Wait, the horsemen don't have btsc?

Yeah, I'm not sure why I put that so decisively. It's more accurate to say that I went back to page one to check and it doesn't say they have btsc. They might have it, but there is no guarantee that they do.

I had another theory too - what if Belsh WAS samson, and the reason he was so surprised about samson's votes was because... he wasn't at all surprised. I mean, he was Death, perhaps he could control a vote of a dead character from time to time. It's possible he was hoping that voting Isaac and having Samson vote Mordecai would result in a tie and waste a day for us. Just a thought.

Interesting, would be good to get clarity on if Ruth is alive, sounds like it. But Epi has removed Belshazaar from the list of the living but hasn't restored Ruth, so it could just be that the "Ruth" thing was a reference to Belshazzar's death, and the fact he called out goliath and neb to succeed (and not ruth) perhaps lends credence to that. I'm not sure the horseman and heathen have joined forces but it does sound like Belshazzar is mad at the town for lynching him and wants to get revenge. If Ruth is back, I wonder if one of his secrets was that he could rezz one person of his choice, and he chose ruth (heathen) out of anger.

Absalom, you did well again. Got a bit lucky in that he is not heathen. It's unfortunate that they don't have btsc and it's not necessarily going to be easy to find horsemen teammates. On the other hand, I feel like Death was a good one to take out.

Thankfully, I think he thinks Jacob is someone that I don't think Jacob actually is. Jacob might be a loss, but I don't think he is the loss Belshazzar was going for.

Absalom wrote:Guys, if we follow Balaam's plan, we WILL get a civ lynch, and everyone who voted for the civ will have cover to say "well, I was just following the plan," including Balaam himself.

I don't think that's quite fair. Did we get a civ lynch yesterday?

If we were to use the plan, I currently think Laz and Samuel would be more likely Belshazzar allies.

Absalom, I want you to answer me a question - is it possible that your strong views today are being clouded by your rate of success? I just want to get a really good measure on your level of certainty.

And remember - Balaam, Belshazzar and I can't all be heathen now. So if Balaam's idea was to save Belshazzar, where do I fit in?

For my part, I tend to agree with Absalom rather than Balaam today. I don't think a split vote is helpful.

She's a prostitute...

Balaam, definitely don't friend Rahab on facebook. Don't you know how that would look? Is that really the reputation you want?

Lol.

And honestly, I agree with you that Belshazzar is probably a one shot thing.

Isaac wrote:

Lot wrote:

Belshazzar wrote:As I've wondered (before being labeled as desperate), maybe Isaac is Heathen, and Mordecai chose not to sacrifice him by saving himself. But if that's true, and I were also Heathen, why would I sacrifice Isaac when Mordecai didn't?

This is a very good point. I still think Isaac could well be heathen as well.

There's only one way to convince you isn't there?

Yes. Stop being a martyr, and lynch a heathen. Imagine if you voted Mordecai yesterday at the same point in time you voted you. My perspective on you would have changed entirely.

linki @ absalom - why do you suddenly want to lynch yourself?

Belshazzar wrote:As I've wondered (before being labeled as desperate), maybe Isaac is Heathen, and Mordecai chose not to sacrifice him by saving himself. But if that's true, and I were also Heathen, why would I sacrifice Isaac when Mordecai didn't?

This is a very good point. I still think Isaac could well be heathen as well.

Belshazzar wrote:Answer me this, however: since you were suddenly frightened, 10 minutes left into the lynch, when Lazarus voted you, of the prospect of him being Simon and still being empowered enough to doom you to be lynched, how is that consistent with your belief that he's bad? You're flipping between the options yourself, depending on the momentum.

I have absolutely no problem holding two opposing positions in my mind at the same time. I am frightened because if Lazarus is not bad, he IS the zealot.

Isaac wrote:Thank you for voting Lazarus, Lot. I would have died had you voted for me.

It evened out your self vote. Don't self vote again.

Also, in my mind the team was Isaac, Belshazzar, Lazarus. I was surprised to see Belshazzar vote Isaac, because I actually expected him to vote Mordecai to save Isaac.

I'm up for Belshazzar.

But not before I've buried Lazarus!

(for what it's worth, I've had a feeling for quite a while that Lazarus could actually genuinely be Belshazzar's teammate. I've been very careful of Belshazzar, but now that there is momentum I definitely think this is the day).

I understand Deborah. Please don't take my fainting as criticism (mafia or not). It actually just made me laugh out loud, because it's almost like clockwork.

Maybe Balaam had to vote as Samson

Me too, actually, Balaam has been pretty good at getting his ass into the thread.