The Syndicate

I think Krusty/Alison is V/V at this point, both Hugh and Burns are too happy with it and they aren't both town.

[VOTE: Burns] aubergine

Let's go.

Hugh Jass wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 9:15 pm

Bart Simpson wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 9:14 pm

Hugh Jass wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 9:09 pm

Bart Simpson wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 8:59 pm

Hugh Jass wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 8:55 pm @Bart Simpson Did you finish the iso of Krusty?

Nope i was kidnapped by RL unfortunately.
Did you have time to Iso Allison and find a reason to vote her?

Nope last I iso'd her was last phase when I was reassessing. Mostly stemmed from her having a small view on the game and going at it one target after another. It fits someone being comfortable with the state of the game, and keeping stuff close to their chest for further pushes afterwards. Like you can't what their thoughts on the game are past her current target at times. Especially since she was talking about the wolves being happy with the status quo so it doesn't fit her play. She's playing a clean game which is expected but I don't think she's actually contributed to any solving or has skin in the game.

Also our interactions earlier, feels like she's treating me as confirmed town through them rather than someone she's considering might have been fooling her like she said.

There is also the worlds, I'm absolutely certain there is a wolf between her and Burns if not both. Like most other teams don't make sense especially since I have you as town and I know I'm town lol

Ig i can't be picky with the reasons at this moment

Always ready to CFD Burns

Me too but no one active votes there with us I think

I'll CFD burns for self-pres since I think he's always scum if Otto is scum and I think Otto is probably scum over Krusty. Wanna go?

Bart Simpson wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 9:12 pm

Allison Taylor wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 9:09 pm

Bart Simpson wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 9:08 pm

Allison Taylor wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 9:05 pm

Bart Simpson wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 9:02 pm Your take day 1 was Otto/Krusty both villagers. Is my memory bad?
You backed up their reciprocal TRs

Correct, it was clear that they knew each other and had strong meta reasons to townread each other, and at the time they both looked pretty townie with good entrances + tone, so I was willing to let it slide. Obviously that's changed and now I think one of them is scum.

Is happening that you ignore 2 scums in this process and give me alternate Poe 1 of 2 players who can be never checked until endgame.
This is fmpov wolfy behaviour my lady.

Sorry, can you rephrase what you're saying here? I don't understand.

You don't have a clear Poe, this is the problem

I do have a clear POE, but it depends on who flips what. Like I said before, there's one scum in Otto/Krusty and I think it's Otto.

So I vote Otto. If Otto is scum, then he's probably scum with Burns. If we know Otto is scum then Burns is the most likely mafia because he's chilling and podracing between two townies (me and Krusty) right now. After that I'd vote Grumple - although I'd have to do associative checks first to see which of Grumple/Gramps is the most likely mafia.

If he's not scum then I think it's Krusty, and thereafter I'd vote off Hugh (for counterwagoning me to save Krusty) and Grumple as I said before.

Those are the worlds that make sense FMPOV.

Bart Simpson wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 9:08 pm

Allison Taylor wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 9:05 pm

Bart Simpson wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 9:02 pm Your take day 1 was Otto/Krusty both villagers. Is my memory bad?
You backed up their reciprocal TRs

Correct, it was clear that they knew each other and had strong meta reasons to townread each other, and at the time they both looked pretty townie with good entrances + tone, so I was willing to let it slide. Obviously that's changed and now I think one of them is scum.

Is happening that you ignore 2 scums in this process and give me alternate Poe 1 of 2 players who can be never checked until endgame.
This is fmpov wolfy behaviour my lady.

Sorry, can you rephrase what you're saying here? I don't understand.

Bart Simpson wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 9:04 pm Who voted Krusty last?

Before Burns, the person who voted Krusty last was Grampa.

Bart Simpson wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 9:02 pm Your take day 1 was Otto/Krusty both villagers. Is my memory bad?
You backed up their reciprocal TRs

Correct, it was clear that they knew each other and had strong meta reasons to townread each other, and at the time they both looked pretty townie with good entrances + tone, so I was willing to let it slide. Obviously that's changed and now I think one of them is scum.

Allison Taylor wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 8:56 pm

Bart Simpson wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 8:54 pm If Otto/Krusty has just one wolf, then 2 more are outside.
Who are they?

As said earlier:

One in Hugh/Burns, because those two aren't wolves together. I'm currently leaning towards it being Burns slightly more because Hugh voted me without hesitation and Burns sort of showed hesitation to join the wagon on me, like he knows the wagon is bad and he doesn't want to get his hands dirty.

One in Gramps/Grumple. I have mixed feelings about both of them but GTH it's Grumple because the town stuff I've seen from Grumple seems less easier to fake than the town stuff I've seen from Gramps (even if it's less consistent).

Actually maybe Hugh is open wolfing with the vote on me because he thinks he can get away with it, ugh

I don't really buy his weird insistence that Krusty/Otto is V/V either. But that Burns hesitation is so out of character for the guy who was willing to smack a vote down on someone because he thinks pressure can turn coal into diamonds.

Bart Simpson wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 8:54 pm If Otto/Krusty has just one wolf, then 2 more are outside.
Who are they?

As said earlier:

One in Hugh/Burns, because those two aren't wolves together. I'm currently leaning towards it being Burns slightly more because Hugh voted me without hesitation and Burns sort of showed hesitation to join the wagon on me, like he knows the wagon is bad and he doesn't want to get his hands dirty.

One in Gramps/Grumple. I have mixed feelings about both of them but GTH it's Grumple because the town stuff I've seen from Grumple seems less easier to fake than the town stuff I've seen from Gramps (even if it's less consistent).

Bart Simpson wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 8:48 pm

Allison Taylor wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 8:42 pm

Bart Simpson wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 8:38 pm @Allison Taylor why do you think we have to see you villager?

Because you see the town spirit and solving attitude in my posts?

I am blind, i don't see the spirit of the town in this game at no one litterally
Please help

I don't know how to show it to you Bart. I've been doing my best to solve the game since D1, my pushes haven't been the best but none of us have had particularly good pushes so far so I don't see why that makes me scum. I've told you my reads already, I can quote it for you if you'd like.

What makes you think I'm a better exe than one in Otto/Krusty? I argued earlier that there was very likely a wolf there because it would be pretty unlikely for both players to misread each other so heavily given that they knew each other really well and were able to confidently identify and meta each other D1.

Seriously though, I'm not scum and you should not vote me. I've been doing my best to solve the game and if you get led into another misexe you'll probably lose the F7.

Bart Simpson wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 8:38 pm @Allison Taylor why do you think we have to see you villager?

Because you see the town spirit and solving attitude in my posts?

krusty, where in your posts have you been considering the possibility of otto town? how do you expect town otto to approach you this day phase, given how the game has been going so far?

that post from krusty creeps me out, it's like he knows otto will flip town and wants to get that out of the way quickly. he says he's considering otto town possibilities but all his posts push a scum otto world.

re: the thunderdome, the reason that I do think there's 1 mafia in there is because in these situations, when you have 2 people with a lot of meta with each other who can read each other very confidently, and they're both confident the other is scum, it's very rarely v/v. I'm not familiar with otto and krusty's real identity (I think they're from canucks?) but I get a similar vibe as like, hally and dizzy or sloonei and JJJ. it's possible for one of the pair to fool & pocket the other, but it's very rare for both to be town and for the other not to see that in them. essentially they'd have to both be wrong on each other despite having the purest of intentions, which is just... unlikelier than one of them being scum lol.

Krusty the Clown wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 7:47 pm

Otto Mann wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 7:38 pm

Mr. Burns wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 7:36 pm

Otto Mann wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 7:31 pm Interesting it's turned into a thunderdome situation.

Well, you made a pretty compelling case on him and he made one on you, so...how is this surprising?

His case is 100% rubber/glue, omgus garbage.

I'm town.

See, this is the funny part...I don't know that Otto is scum. I just know that I'm town. Weird that he doesn't even see it as a possibility for me tho.

man this is making me reconsider my vote

Hugh Jass wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 7:25 pm I don't think doubt is inherently a town tell. I have a different take on his earlier uncertainty, not sure which post but this hasn't been a long phase so you can probably find it. Bart echoed it. What struck you as townie from it?

Yeah, I saw that. I'm not sure I understand the read honestly, you think he's been trying to steer/manipulate the game into reaching certain conclusions, which is something I'd expect to come from someone who has a really strong narrative of how we should carry out the day and what we should do today and trying to push that agenda on us. This is actually why I suspect Otto :P

I don't think doubt is a town tell in general but given that the days have been going disastrously for us I'd expect townies to be slightly more doubtful of themselves/their reads and mafia to be slightly more complacent or aggressive to push their agenda through.

The level of doubt Burns has shown is fakeable though so I'm not clear him for it or anything, which is the problem, both you and Burns have done townie-but-not-unfakeable stuff.

unfortunately the problem is that if either of you is wolf then you've clearly shown the ability to be able to hard pocket me, and have the range to be able to fake stuff like doubt (which burns has) or a townie tone (which I do think you have today), so it's hard to reach firm conclusions on you.

I think the way you and burns have been at each other's throats for pretty much the entire game does rule you out as W/W at least which is good because I don't think I can win if burns/hugh is W/W. honestly I'm just putting all my eggs in resolving krusty and otto and hoping interaction analysis on the wolf there can help me catch the other two. In an ideal world you two would be V/V and the last two are grumple and grampa but I doubt we live in an ideal world kind of game lol

Hugh Jass wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 6:57 pm What did you get from looking at Burns and me?

I've been poking at both of you for reads and thoughts this day phase and I've gotten mostly zilch tbh

both of you are just repeating the party line in that you have roughly the same reads/ideas you've had a day phase ago (correct me if you've done any major re-evals this day and I missed it). burns is depressed and I think townies are more likely to be depressed in this gamestate but obv that's easily fakeable.

Hugh Jass wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 6:52 pm It's alrigt, accounts slips are inevitable in sockpuppet games. Last one had 3 of them I think lol

yeah, I feel bad about it because it's sloppy play is all and I feel bad for sloonei hosting a sockpuppet game only to have a bunch of account slips happen after he made a rule saying no claiming identity

Hugh Jass wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 6:39 pm That's a weird question lol. The past modal is because I assume you're locked on Otto right now, correct?

more or less, yeah. I don't really believe in majorly changing your vote close to EOD and we're drawing near there. I do think there's 1 wolf in krusty/otto and we should be exeing there.

I was mostly looking at you and burns as people who could have deepwolfed me. I pushed grumple for a bit near SoD, he's had... okay but not particularly exciting responses, and grampa is also a suspect, he's been up and down in my readslist the whole game.

mostly ruling out skinner (because of his claim) and bart because I think if bart is wolf I can't get there on him

sorry about the second account slip guys... really tired, it's 7am here. really apologize

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 6:49 pm

Hugh Jass wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 6:37 pm Meant it as in how is it consistent with the state of the game, and his position in it as a wolf. Like I get the justification you're telling them, yeah sure it nets him a misexe. But can't he go on about getting one in a more efficient way? Or at leas try? The town is doing an excellent job in itself giving them off so I'm having trouble seeing a wolf!Otto locking himself up in this situation just for the sake of misexe-ing Krusty when he needs 2 more to win. He was also in a better position than most of the names you've mentioned as potential teammates.

hm

I guess that is a good point, thanks for bringing it up

ugh

Hugh Jass wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 6:15 pm

Allison Taylor wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 6:10 pm Yeah, I knew Otto was a TR of yours, was mostly looking for your thoughts on the specific dynamic between them, and how they thunderdomed each other

I ask because the way that thunderdome went down with Otto aggressively trying to get Krusty exed is a reason I lean Otto in that contest, since, well, we're one bad exe from endgame

You've mentioned that as if that would yield him a comfortable F7. How so? Also how do you reconcile that with the position he was in and that the Mafia were in if he's bad? That's not a sound strategy.

Not sure what you mean about the reconcilation bit, but I suspect that the people who could be partnered with Otto are Burns, you, grumple and possibly grampa. If Otto is a wolf, and has two of these people as his partners, then by thunderdoming Krusty and getting Krusty exed, even if we exe him tomorrow, that means we only have 1 exe to hit 2 scum in a row, which is obviously bad odds.

Yeah, I knew Otto was a TR of yours, was mostly looking for your thoughts on the specific dynamic between them, and how they thunderdomed each other

I ask because the way that thunderdome went down with Otto aggressively trying to get Krusty exed is a reason I lean Otto in that contest, since, well, we're one bad exe from endgame

Mr. Burns wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 5:05 pm

Allison Taylor wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 5:02 pm [VOTE: Otto Mann] aubergine

hugh what's your take on otto vs krusty?

Why Otto?

i wrote my case previously so just iso me but essentially I agree with you that there's 1 in otto and krusty, and I think it's probably more likely to be otto on the basis that otto fits the model of a deepwolf steering the game and went all out to discredit me the moment I said I leaned towards him being scum (eg. I said it's not true that I was steering the conversation away from krusty, and he immediately responds by saying that sounds like I'm reasoning with him because I know he's town, shading me for having numbered paragraphs and shit). other things that bother me are the discrepancy between his "I'm going to throw out all my reads" attitude and him lock voting on krusty without really reconsidering or thinking if he's maybe wrong. him being the aggressor against krusty is probably scum indicative in this gamestate as well because we're one bad exe from F7, and so the mafia have a strong incentive to kill a townie as quickly as possible and get to a comfortable endgame while townies are more likely to be doubtful of themselves and trying to figure things out.

[VOTE: Otto Mann] aubergine

hugh what's your take on otto vs krusty?

I'm around sporadically until EOD, ping me if you need anything.

You really are determined to twist everything I say aren't you?

Nice work missing the point and trying to shade me at the same time. I write numbered paragraphs all the time as both alignments, I'm infamous for it actually.

You said I was pulling conversation off Krusty, but I wasn't. I can show you plenty of posts I've made directly about Krusty's alignment and talking with others about Krusty's alignment this day phase.

Otto Mann wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 12:28 am Glad I'm not the only one who felt like Allison was trying to pull conversation off Krusty and put it on me.

This doesn't make sense Otto.

1) I've actively participated in and started conversations about Krusty's alignment. See my back and forth with Hugh about how the nightkill affects my view of Krusty. I'm not taking the spotlight off Krusty in any way just because I suspect you.

2) You and Krusty are feuding in a duel to the death, a conversation about your alignment, in the context of this game, is a conversation that involves Krusty. It's not like I'm saying "guys forget about this Krusty stuff, let's talk about why Otto is wolf". I'm saying "So Otto and Krusty are thunderdoming, and I think between the two Otto is the wolf". That's not pulling the conversation off Krusty at all, that's making the conversation about you two actually.

Why can't you be wolf Otto? We all agree that there's probably wolves lurking deep within the trusted town core. You've been trusted and your alignment has largely gone unquestioned for the past 3 day phases. From my point of view you definitely have equity for being the deepwolf who fooled us all. Why are you this defensive when I put the slightest bit of heat on you? So far this day phase all you've done is shade the two people who've suspected you, when our suspicions are (IMO) incredibly reasonable.

Principal Skinner wrote: ↑Sun Nov 01, 2020 11:46 pm All good students and all dead.

Yes, I suspected & voted townies. I don't deny it. So did half the game. That's why we're in the position we're in.

Principal Skinner wrote: ↑Sun Nov 01, 2020 11:46 pm Why is Grumple worthy of your vote when you painted Lisa's concerns as "a huge reach?"

Because Lisa was suspecting Grumple for reasons I thought didn't make sense, and I'm suspecting Grumple, 3 day phases later, for a completely separate set of reasons.

Principal Skinner wrote: ↑Sun Nov 01, 2020 11:46 pm Why is this a concern? Do villains not know how to distance?

Scum can distance, yeah, but that doesn't mean that's all they do. If I suspect X of being mafia, and Y seems to be doing things to prop up X, I'm going to have my suspicions about Y as well. You seem to know this very well since you suspect me of being Krusty's teammate lol.

Principal Skinner wrote: ↑Sun Nov 01, 2020 11:46 pm Someone call the history department. I found someone on the wrong side of it.

Yeah, I was wrong about them. This makes me mafia?

The Grumple wrote: ↑Sun Nov 01, 2020 11:57 pm

Allison Taylor wrote: ↑Sun Nov 01, 2020 6:33 pmGrumple has been towncored without being townread. Nobody seriously suspects him, but nobody explicitly townreads him either.

this means nothing, obviously, but that is a pretty accurate description of me in every game.

It's a lot easier to ignore your wolf teammates who aren't under suspicion than stir up controversy about them. I'm actually wondering if Grumple/Otto/X teams are possible.

if otto were my teammate i would bus him asap after day 3, pragmatic or not. :\

Otto trolled me by pretending to care about post length and formatting; a great and shameful personal failure that i would have never knowingly participated in.

I was sort of thinking that it's possible that you and Otto were pretending to squabble over something inconsequential so we get it into our heads that you two aren't teammates without actually having to make serious pushes against each other.

What are your reads?

probably going to head out to lunch soonish

Hugh Jass wrote: ↑Sun Nov 01, 2020 10:37 pm

Allison Taylor wrote: ↑Sun Nov 01, 2020 10:19 pm Why the fuck does scum Krusty not shoot Skinner? Skinner is a claimed Tracker and was suspicious of Krusty. If you're Krusty there you just shoot Skinner, everyone assumes it's because he's a PR, and you get rid of someone pointing a finger at you without drawing any attention.

Skinner might have been left alive because his Krusty suspicion is wrong and wolves want him to rampage after the wrong guy.

If he's bad, he's not a lone wolf. Avoiding Krusty again might have been another doc dodge to be safe. Not that impossible for a Doctor to have foregone using a shot one of the first two night banking on assumed protection to then clutch an N3 save.

this is true, I guess

Hugh Jass wrote: ↑Sun Nov 01, 2020 10:39 pm

Allison Taylor wrote: ↑Sun Nov 01, 2020 10:07 pm There is probably 1 scum between Otto and Krusty. I don't see how two people who know each other well here can be so sure that the other is scum if it's V/V. Wolves have no reason to bus like this given the gamestate, so occam's razor is that it's just one town and one wolf.

Which is which?

leaning towards otto scum, krusty town atm

Why the fuck does scum Krusty not shoot Skinner? Skinner is a claimed Tracker and was suspicious of Krusty. If you're Krusty there you just shoot Skinner, everyone assumes it's because he's a PR, and you get rid of someone pointing a finger at you without drawing any attention.

Skinner might have been left alive because his Krusty suspicion is wrong and wolves want him to rampage after the wrong guy.

When CBG gained momentum D2, Lisa was set up as a counterwagon. Her being a counterwagon to town made me think she was scum using CBG's wagon as a shield. Now we have a Krusty wagon materializing out of thin air EOD3 to counterwagon Lisa. Feels like a repeat on Day 2. I'm leaning towards Krusty town. The wagon on him feels too easy and there's too much consensus and too little resistance in a game where all the easy wagons have flipped green.

Bart Simpson wrote: ↑Sun Nov 01, 2020 10:04 pm Actually everyone should do the same, because we need to see where everyone stands
Can you be more active and share your complete reads?
@Allison Taylor
@The Grumple
@Grampa Simpson
@Krusty the Clown
@Otto Mann
@Mr. Burns
@Principal Skinner

my reads this game are "fucked" and "fucked-er".

I'm clearing Skinner for an un-CCed tracker claim and you because the marge kill made no sense if you're scum and you aren't under enough pressure to WIFOM kill here.

I think there's one scum in [Otto/Burns/Hugh] because those are the candidates for deepwolf stringing me along.

I think [Otto/Krusty] has one scum in it.

And I think [Grampa/Grumple] has at least one scum in it because those are the players who've been prodding the wagons along without taking the lead or getting their hands dirty. I'm currently voting Grumple and I want to drag him into the light to see if he shines or stinks.

I could see an Otto/Grampa/Grumple. Or I could see a Hugh/Burns/wonder twin team. I'm getting slightly paranoid that the Hugh/Burns stuff was faked because they've been ostentatiously at each other's throats for the past 3 day phases but nothing serious has come of it. But I'm leaning more towards just trying to find the wolf in Otto/Krusty and Grampa/Grumple this day phase.

There is probably 1 scum between Otto and Krusty. I don't see how two people who know each other well here can be so sure that the other is scum if it's V/V. Wolves have no reason to bus like this given the gamestate, so occam's razor is that it's just one town and one wolf.

Otto Mann wrote: ↑Sun Nov 01, 2020 9:58 pm

Allison Taylor wrote: ↑Sun Nov 01, 2020 9:55 pm

Otto Mann wrote: ↑Sun Nov 01, 2020 9:34 pm

Allison Taylor wrote: ↑Sun Nov 01, 2020 9:15 pm I don't know whether or not it was wrong but it creeps me out that you seem so sure it's right. You were wrong on D1 and D2 and you thought Lisa was scum for a while as well. What makes you so sure that you're right about Krusty to the point where you refuse to change your vote no matter what happens?

I didn't lock my vote. That would be stupid, reckless and anti town. It's a full blown dipshit move if you ask me.

However, I did say I dont see myself changing my vote, but maybe I should have said - barring any significant developments, I dont see myself coming off that vote.

I've been getting my ass handed to me this game. We've received no info from any specials and all we have to go on are wagons. Krusty's wagons all flipped town and there's some meta stuff which isnt lining up for me

ok well, it sounded to me like you locked your vote when I first read your post about not shifting off krusty, which is why I said what I said.

Understandable. I reread my post in question and it does actually read that way.
I'm passionate.

So why'd you kill homer?

I didn't.

Otto Mann wrote: ↑Sun Nov 01, 2020 9:34 pm

Allison Taylor wrote: ↑Sun Nov 01, 2020 9:15 pm I don't know whether or not it was wrong but it creeps me out that you seem so sure it's right. You were wrong on D1 and D2 and you thought Lisa was scum for a while as well. What makes you so sure that you're right about Krusty to the point where you refuse to change your vote no matter what happens?

I didn't lock my vote. That would be stupid, reckless and anti town. It's a full blown dipshit move if you ask me.

However, I did say I dont see myself changing my vote, but maybe I should have said - barring any significant developments, I dont see myself coming off that vote.

I've been getting my ass handed to me this game. We've received no info from any specials and all we have to go on are wagons. Krusty's wagons all flipped town and there's some meta stuff which isnt lining up for me

ok well, it sounded to me like you locked your vote when I first read your post about not shifting off krusty, which is why I said what I said.

I don't know whether or not it was wrong but it creeps me out that you seem so sure it's right. You were wrong on D1 and D2 and you thought Lisa was scum for a while as well. What makes you so sure that you're right about Krusty to the point where you refuse to change your vote no matter what happens?

actually I want to push here and see what happens.

[VOTE: Grumple] aubergine

Grumple has been towncored without being townread. Nobody seriously suspects him, but nobody explicitly townreads him either. It's a lot easier to ignore your wolf teammates who aren't under suspicion than stir up controversy about them. I'm actually wondering if Grumple/Otto/X teams are possible.

My biggest gripe with Otto is that he appears way too confident and unmoving on his krusty vote despite having voted wrong for the past few days. I think all townies are feeling a bit or a lot of doubt and disappointment in their game so far and it is weird to me that Otto would just plough straight ahead onto exeing someone so early in the day seemingly uber confidently.

Hugh Jass wrote: ↑Sun Nov 01, 2020 6:03 pm Also since when is Gramps part of any towncore lmao? The dude has been non stop suspected, same with me and Burns to a degree.

this

"Allison, Hugh, Otto, Burns, Grampa" is not a real towncore. Half of those people were at each other's throats for most of the game and most/all of them were under real suspicion at some point in time. The least suspected person there is actually probably Otto. I guess I have to re-read him too now

I'm not the doc.

I guess burns or hugh are the most likely candidates for having outplayed me but idk

my reads are shit this game so don't trust me lol

Bart Simpson wrote: ↑Sun Nov 01, 2020 1:13 am Who is the lock town?

I assume Skinner

I don't think wolves have a reason to make WIFOM kills at this stage in the game so Krusty probably just town for not killing Skinner.

can't make up my mind on whether or not gramps is scummy for taking aim at me after marge's death or townie for giving enough of a shit to even make a push

Everyone marge said was town has flipped town so I guess I'm just going to trust her read on you. if you outplayed all of us so be it I guess and we don't have enough misexes to get there on you anyway.

Grampa Simpson wrote: ↑Sat Oct 31, 2020 10:18 pm Marge hella pushed Allison EOD and didn't participate in either of the wagons, so I'll look through that ISO and see if Marge's thoughts align with my weak half-assed "idk man" read from yesterday

Marge scumread you too so don't give me that

Grampa Simpson wrote: ↑Sat Oct 31, 2020 10:15 pm [VOTE: Allison Taylor] aubergine

feeling a little bit s p i c y

but also my POE got halved again

nah

Marge Simpson wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 5:31 pm

Allison Taylor wrote: ↑Tue Oct 27, 2020 3:22 pm CBG's responses have really irked me. I think he's going for a TWTBAW strategy. He's trying to give off an aura of not giving a fuck but his overly flippant attitude feels OTT. I think he's just scum here, maybe even trying his best to anti-spew so as to deny us associative reads.

don't like the last line tacked on there

the strength of the evidence you've provided shouldn't match the level of confidence that you have in this read

Alison's CBG read was that he was vote switching at EoD between his scum reads, wat

CBG was had a bad EOD1, was trolling all day, and was a strong contender for the exe all day. When he had his neck on the chopping block all he had to say was "I'm town, trust me". That's why I thought it was anti-spew.