The Syndicate

Julinook

Hammers are townie

Julinook

Bottom Text wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 6:42 pm whoever hammers sleep is a wolf

I did it before you said it so it doesn't count

Julinook

I said I was gonna hammer it and I'm a man of my word

Julinook

I'm technically kind of here, video mafia is starting so kinda just lurking waiting to hammer sleep

Julinook

I'm gonna eat, bbl

Julinook

TonyStarkPlaysItCool wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 3:59 pm
Julinook wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 3:58 pm I don't get how you have more than one
Why not

Mac is literally the only other person claiming more than one shot and his role is arbuably negative utility, you don't see why this is weird

Julinook

Julinook wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 3:58 pm I don't get how you have more than one

Like, for the game

Julinook

I don't get how you have more than one

Julinook

Bottom Text wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 3:53 pm do they still have blocks? Why are they saying they can confirm themselves if they already visited

They're claiming multiple blocks yeah

Julinook

Bottom Text wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 3:50 pm kinda just thinking of killing nook

Bad think try thinking again

Julinook

TonyStarkPlaysItCool wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 3:47 pm then having another block should out us as town right

In what world would that out you as town when the only other not one shot claim on the board is mac

Julinook

Bottom Text wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 3:43 pm
dunya wrote: ↑Wed May 05, 2021 7:02 pm Final Vote Count:

Spoiler: show
who should leave the family?
Poll ended at Thu May 06, 2021 1:00 am

Akemi Hazelnut
0
No votes
Voters: None
Bottom Text
4
24%
Voters: Akemi Hazelnut, Mana, trans rights, TwoAndThrough
FalconKnows
0
No votes
Voters: None
Honey & Vinegar
0
No votes
Voters: None
Julinook
0
No votes
Voters: None
Mana
3
18%
Voters: Julinook, TonyStarkPlaysItCool, Poop Explosions
Poop Explosions
0
No votes
Voters: None
The Walrus
0
No votes
Voters: None
Timsup2gettinserious
0
No votes
Voters: None
TonyStarkPlaysItCool
1
6%
Voters: The Walrus
Toopy and Binoo
0
No votes
Voters: None
trans rights
0
No votes
Voters: None
TwoAndThrough
4
24%
Voters: Timsup2gettinserious, Toopy and Binoo, Honey & Vinegar, Bottom Text
unvote
1
6%
Voters: FalconKnows
sleep
0
No votes
Voters: None
host/mod
4
24%
Voters: dunya, JaggedJimmyJay, Marmot, MacDougall

akemi try on me

we're the only ones on tat lmfao okay

nook poop tspic on Mana

idk who I'm missing

the walrus ended on tspic and died that night. How relevant is that?

Its probably not but

If I say it's relevant cause it means they blocked and shot walrus before walrus could shoot them will it convince you?

Julinook

trans rights wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 3:27 pm
Julinook wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 3:25 pm
trans rights wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 3:24 pm does anyone actually take stock in tsp's argument for why we should defenestrate and how his rb can be used depending on if we defenestrate correctly or not? that's not a mechanical line i want to bet the game off of.
Well it requires him to be town so

No not really
well yeah that was implied to be my issue with taking the argument seriously.

If he were lock town it would be a fine enough argument and probably correct but

It requires everyone just accepting him as town

Which is a big lol

Julinook

trans rights wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 3:24 pm does anyone actually take stock in tsp's argument for why we should defenestrate and how his rb can be used depending on if we defenestrate correctly or not? that's not a mechanical line i want to bet the game off of.

Well it requires him to be town so

No not really

Julinook

The fact that you claim you do is also maybe outing but im not confident it actually is

Julinook

TonyStarkPlaysItCool wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 3:22 pm nanook do you have shots left

No

Julinook

trans rights wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 3:20 pm
TonyStarkPlaysItCool wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 3:18 pm also like what mac didn't get chopped hwo cares how long you stayed on him
okay but from my knowledge nanook isn't really a busser, though this could be wildly off because it's only based off of a couple of games

his push on two and through on d1 didn't seem like a bus and him pushing poop explosions on top of that if he's a wolf is a very strange line to take as well if he's a wolf iyam.

I'm a tactical busser not s compulsive one

Julinook

TonyStarkPlaysItCool wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 3:17 pm
Julinook wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 3:16 pm
Julinook wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 3:13 pm I think pushing me/mac as partners is a borderline outing perspective
Like pushing a team of me tat and Mac with how long I stayed on Mac d1 and the eod vc is just

Its not really a team that exists, but tpic are forced into pushing it if they're mafia cause they can't afford to have me and Mac find each other and the other town find us

So yeah basically this is a world that doesn't make sense to push as town but he almost has to as mafia
it's not me blame jpic

Thats maybe less outing but

Still probably outing

Julinook

Akemi Hazelnut wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 3:16 pm
Julinook wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 3:08 pm Despite my comment otherwise I actually have read everything today and I've been thinking about it a lot

I've been weighing things and I almost want to just yolo vote, I think mac has the gamestate basically correct (i have quibbles on some of the details, thats not important, I agree with many of his broader conclusions), and not to tip my hand but im basically never going to be able to scumread him, idk about c4 but mac is well out of his scum game imo, so not sure waiting a day actually clears much up for me or changes that tpic is mafia in almost every world.

So yeah kinda thinking that it might make sense to kill today, sleep tomorrow (assuming we get it right today, but fmpov thats a relatively safe assumption I think)
we only vote tspic if we're like 100% sure and i'm not tbh

I mean

Sure I guess its a bit harder fypov but

It shouldn't be that much harder I don't think

Julinook

Julinook wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 3:13 pm I think pushing me/mac as partners is a borderline outing perspective

Like pushing a team of me tat and Mac with how long I stayed on Mac d1 and the eod vc is just

Its not really a team that exists, but tpic are forced into pushing it if they're mafia cause they can't afford to have me and Mac find each other and the other town find us

So yeah basically this is a world that doesn't make sense to push as town but he almost has to as mafia

Julinook

I think pushing me/mac as partners is a borderline outing perspective

Julinook

TonyStarkPlaysItCool wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 3:11 pm
Julinook wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 3:08 pm Despite my comment otherwise I actually have read everything today and I've been thinking about it a lot

I've been weighing things and I almost want to just yolo vote, I think mac has the gamestate basically correct (i have quibbles on some of the details, thats not important, I agree with many of his broader conclusions), and not to tip my hand but im basically never going to be able to scumread him, idk about c4 but mac is well out of his scum game imo, so not sure waiting a day actually clears much up for me or changes that tpic is mafia in almost every world.

So yeah kinda thinking that it might make sense to kill today, sleep tomorrow (assuming we get it right today, but fmpov thats a relatively safe assumption I think)
I hate this post so much.

GTH wolves are nook/poop

I mean you have to push this line so

Julinook

Julinook wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 3:08 pm Despite my comment otherwise I actually have read everything today and I've been thinking about it a lot

I've been weighing things and I almost want to just yolo vote, I think mac has the gamestate basically correct (i have quibbles on some of the details, thats not important, I agree with many of his broader conclusions), and not to tip my hand but im basically never going to be able to scumread him, idk about c4 but mac is well out of his scum game imo, so not sure waiting a day actually clears much up for me or changes that tpic is mafia in almost every world.

So yeah kinda thinking that it might make sense to kill today, sleep tomorrow (assuming we get it right today, but fmpov thats a relatively safe assumption I think)

Its possible this is the sleep deprivation talking and its still optimal to sleep, not entirely sure

Julinook

Despite my comment otherwise I actually have read everything today and I've been thinking about it a lot

I've been weighing things and I almost want to just yolo vote, I think mac has the gamestate basically correct (i have quibbles on some of the details, thats not important, I agree with many of his broader conclusions), and not to tip my hand but im basically never going to be able to scumread him, idk about c4 but mac is well out of his scum game imo, so not sure waiting a day actually clears much up for me or changes that tpic is mafia in almost every world.

So yeah kinda thinking that it might make sense to kill today, sleep tomorrow (assuming we get it right today, but fmpov thats a relatively safe assumption I think)

Julinook

Are we going to do the smart thing or do I need to actually read today instead of overnight?

Julinook

Bottom Text wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 1:27 pm i feel like we're on track to not sleeping here with how much you nerds are doing

also the general mentality of reads on our slot this game has been funky

i want off this rollercoaster

You see why I don't bother trying to get people to play milo correctly anymore

Julinook

I've long since given up trying to get other people to follow optimal milo procedure tbh

Julinook

Julinook wrote: ↑Wed May 12, 2021 8:30 pm
trans rights wrote: ↑Wed May 12, 2021 7:37 pm we slep

also two and through's a confirmed wolf atp. will iso them proper for spew but atm i think it clears akemi/julinook

also not sure if w!bottom text makes that kill? but the game might just be easy.

trans rights wrote: ↑Wed May 12, 2021 7:37 pm hi

i think alitella is a wolf

read pages 43 and 44 with the context that FK/mana are v/v and see if you see what i see

~ninetales
Butterflyguyisthishydradissonanceouting?.png

This is a meme not a real read obviously if you're mafia don't kill me im not a threat I promise

Julinook

trans rights wrote: ↑Wed May 12, 2021 7:37 pm we slep

also two and through's a confirmed wolf atp. will iso them proper for spew but atm i think it clears akemi/julinook

also not sure if w!bottom text makes that kill? but the game might just be easy.

trans rights wrote: ↑Wed May 12, 2021 7:37 pm hi

i think alitella is a wolf

read pages 43 and 44 with the context that FK/mana are v/v and see if you see what i see

~ninetales

Butterflyguyisthishydradissonanceouting?.png

Julinook

I'm 99% sure sleeping is correct yeah?

My only meaningful contribution to the first, idk, 36 hours at least of the day is going to be voting sleep and saying there's a good chance I push made's legacy tomorrow if left alive

If we sleep its optimal to just do it, don't give mafia a road map for NKs yada yada most of you know what I'm gonna say about it probably

Julinook

Mana wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 6:55 pm but yeah, If you voted me, you have to sheep me tomorrow.

them the rules

@Akemi Hazelnut
@TonyStarkPlaysItCool
@Julinook
@Toopy and Binoo
@Poop Explosions

Put it in one place so it's easy to find

Assuming you're town and this is weird if you aren't

I probably might

Julinook

Poop Explosions wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 6:52 pm last wolf is nanook

Yes give me all your scumreads, keep me alive through the night

Julinook

Is the hammer not at 5? 8 alive, it should be

Julinook

Mana wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 6:51 pm Okay Let's do this::
Y'all should hammer me, read my post, and sheep me to victory
^^^^

Just do it, it's a win

If you flip town

Done deal

Julinook

Oh look there's the chance

Julinook

Mana wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 6:50 pm
Julinook wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 6:50 pm
Mana wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 6:48 pm
Julinook wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 6:46 pm
Mana wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 6:43 pm Okay, so It seems my slot is read scum right now entirely on tone regardless of mechs, reads by made, Dana meta, and everything else?

Is that correct?

if it is, Made is just gonna throw in the towel, cuz there's no winning this if that's the case. Like I don't think there's a way to change anyone opinions, and I'm cool not beating my head against a wall if everyone is sure
Sell me on TR
TR would be scum in the world where BT is town and T&T is scum. TR was going to vote their teammate, but didn't realizing it would of put them over the edge instead of the random vote at hte end of day 1. It's not a particuarly strong case (exactly 4th in mades POE, but it's a case.)

But why would I sell you on TR, do you you're own damn pushes, don't be lazy Mr. Nook
Cause I'm probably gonna hammer you if you don't lol
do it

Meh

I will if given the chance tbh

Julinook

Mana wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 6:48 pm
Julinook wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 6:46 pm
Mana wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 6:43 pm Okay, so It seems my slot is read scum right now entirely on tone regardless of mechs, reads by made, Dana meta, and everything else?

Is that correct?

if it is, Made is just gonna throw in the towel, cuz there's no winning this if that's the case. Like I don't think there's a way to change anyone opinions, and I'm cool not beating my head against a wall if everyone is sure
Sell me on TR
TR would be scum in the world where BT is town and T&T is scum. TR was going to vote their teammate, but didn't realizing it would of put them over the edge instead of the random vote at hte end of day 1. It's not a particuarly strong case (exactly 4th in mades POE, but it's a case.)

But why would I sell you on TR, do you you're own damn pushes, don't be lazy Mr. Nook

Cause I'm probably gonna hammer you if you don't lol

Julinook

Mana wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 6:46 pm
Julinook wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 6:46 pm
Mana wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 6:43 pm Okay, so It seems my slot is read scum right now entirely on tone regardless of mechs, reads by made, Dana meta, and everything else?

Is that correct?

if it is, Made is just gonna throw in the towel, cuz there's no winning this if that's the case. Like I don't think there's a way to change anyone opinions, and I'm cool not beating my head against a wall if everyone is sure
Sell me on TR
why tr?

If you're town and I'm tinfoiling

Tr is probably where im tinfoiling

Julinook

Mana wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 6:43 pm Okay, so It seems my slot is read scum right now entirely on tone regardless of mechs, reads by made, Dana meta, and everything else?

Is that correct?

if it is, Made is just gonna throw in the towel, cuz there's no winning this if that's the case. Like I don't think there's a way to change anyone opinions, and I'm cool not beating my head against a wall if everyone is sure

Sell me on TR

Julinook

"Standard" is one game lol

Julinook

Mana wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 6:33 pm
Julinook wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 6:32 pm That readslist is *fine* but isn't really the super townie clearing obvious Dana i was kinda hoping for tbh
im sorry I was hoping to cite examples and stuff but I ran out of time due to the real life

Its ok im not meaning to be critical, if you're town this was a valiant effort and I understand

I'm just having trouble seeing it, sorry

Julinook

trans rights wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 6:33 pm yeah the reads aren't terrible but... meh. there isn't a concrete townread in there which doesn't feel great; almost everyone there is shaded in some way.

i'm confused as to how they don't have a read on my slot; like how i'm not falling into a similar category as to how alison/julinook is falling into.

what about my slot is confusing you mana?

Bolded is actually the part of it I thought was best given Dana being Dana

Julinook

I'm gonna be eating during eod probably so expect another bad eod from me tbb

Julinook

That readslist is *fine* but isn't really the super townie clearing obvious Dana i was kinda hoping for tbh

Julinook

trans rights wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 5:27 pm well i'm also assuming that you're probably a mafia jk if you are a wolf, and in that case tspic is unlikely to be a wolf roleblocker. in that case, it would seem tspic would have to be lying about their role, which... it still feels like they probably would've just claimed something else?

Sure ill agree we aren't partnered lol

Saying we're in direct conflict implies we can't both be town based on our roles and I don't really think thats the case

Julinook

trans rights wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 5:21 pm i think julinook/tspic w/w is incredibly unlikely. i kinda think if they were wolves together, they wouldn't claim roles that are essentially in direct conflict with each other.

I don't really think jk and rb are in direct conflict tbh, they serve different functions

Julinook

trans rights wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 4:39 pm i did consider the derp clear thing but i'm generally not a derp clearer

I think they're good sometimes, this one doesn't meet the standard tho I don't think

Julinook

Mana wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 4:05 pm
trans rights wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 4:01 pm are factional kills usually assigned on the syndicate?
I have no idea.. I've played games before where people had like odd/even night kills I think? but i feel like that's probably not the case here. but in a game with roleblocking and other stuff I would assume someone individually has to do the killing right?

Nvm it is not, rip

Julinook

Mana wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 4:00 pm
trans rights wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 3:56 pm is... is the read that akemi would carry the kill n1that bad of a read? they would have 0 reason to think julinook's role would exist unless akemi/julinook is the team, or they somehow role copped julinook n0. in certain team comps, akemi absolutely would've carried the kill.
what do you mean by carry the kill? like they have the role that has the kill ability or that they would be the ones to decide who to kill in the mafia chat?

Is this a derp clear?

Julinook

trans rights wrote: ↑Tue May 11, 2021 3:56 pm is... is the read that akemi would carry the kill n1that bad of a read? they would have 0 reason to think julinook's role would exist unless akemi/julinook is the team, or they somehow role copped julinook n0. in certain team comps, akemi absolutely would've carried the kill.

I mean i wouldn't bet the game on it but I do think it carries (pun intended) *some* weight

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