The Syndicate

Reywas 2 wrote:I think we're gonna need a lot more votes for LC2 if we want this to work.

Are you all illiterate? I told you how it works. Can anyone in the class tell me how I get lynched? Was anyone listening?

I cast my vote.

Cobalt 2 wrote:

Long Con 2 wrote:I was joking about being unlynchable. And yes, I am claiming the latter. Every time I get the most votes, I have a chance of being lynched. As for who gets lynched instead of me, I was not given this information. I am guessing it may go to the person with the second most votes. TGG was up 2 votes on Day 2's tally, tied with Syn and MM. But of course I cannot be sure. It may have nothing to do with my non-lynch. It may be that no one gets lynched instead of me and that the TGG lynch was due to something different.

Who is more likely to be able to survive lynches like that, town or scum?

That depends on what is best for the balance of the game. 25 players, how many are bad? How many are independent? We know none of this. Perhaps civs were give more power and baddies numbers are greater. I am not sure.

Synonym 2 wrote:pls lynch me

You heard the man.

Sig 2 wrote:Long Con says it will take more votes to lynch him, so I've obliged. I still think he is scum. Apologies for my continued lack of posting, I'm quite ill.

Learn to read, man.

Yes. From the people that are active, I don't see much to be suspicious of. I'm sorry you don't like that.

Black Rock 2 wrote:
I thought it was quite odd that blooper 2 had only posted once and then her next post was to ask me when I would be finished reading the thread. I thought at the time maybe she had posted a lot of her thoughts and was pushing me to post mine. Well, she may have been pushing me but she had not posted any thoughts about anyone. Blooper 2, I'd like to know why that was your only meaningful post in the game?

Right, like she was trying to look like a good civilian participant.

@Bass - Why?

I don't have time to elaborate further until later but I wanted to get something out there. I want to prove to my fellow civs that I can be trusted. Hopefully this will at least foster discussion and I will be back later to converse as well.

I know I have said that I would try to stop playing defense and pay offense instead. I am starting off my suspicions with SVS. I know it my sound as if I am only targeting her because she has been targeting me, but oh well. She is tunneling and I it makes her look bad.

My next suspicion is blooper. She has two posts in the whole game. There is a small number of players participating in the thread. Some of the mafia must be inactive and she seems like a perfect candidate in my opinion.

Lastly, full disclosure, I am still on the fence about Syn. My thoughts of him were that he could have slipped and really knows there are five mafia. I thought his initial reaction was genuine, but that his posts quickly turned sketchy.

Linki: I wish you would have waited. However, I would still like your input on my thoughts.

Reywas 2 wrote:LC 2 probably has a role where he has a 50% chance to make a vote not count or 50% of votes for him don't count or something. I think lynching him by a wide margin would be ideal. He said he was going on the offensive today and that he was done defending himself, but it sounds to me like he's more interested in talking about how hard it's gonna be for us to lynch him

Vote Long Con

I'm working right now. I don't have time to dive into it just yet. But I will. We do have 48 hours, yes?

I was joking about being unlynchable. And yes, I am claiming the latter. Every time I get the most votes, I have a chance of being lynched. As for who gets lynched instead of me, I was not given this information. I am guessing it may go to the person with the second most votes. TGG was up 2 votes on Day 2's tally, tied with Syn and MM. But of course I cannot be sure. It may have nothing to do with my non-lynch. It may be that no one gets lynched instead of me and that the TGG lynch was due to something different.

To answer everyone's questions. No, I did not switch the lynch. I just said that it is more difficult to lynch me. I cannot reveal everything about my role, that is infodumping, of course. Think a little more on it and I am sure you can come up with a way that it would be more difficult to lynch me. Any time I get the most votes, there is a chance I will die.

Lipsticklacey 2 wrote:I doubt this will convince anyone who voted for you to not try it again, since they were not exactly starting from a rational place anyways.

You are also actually probably doing more damage then good for yourself right now, because those were some very cavalier statements from someone who survived at the cost of the civilian protector.

I'm just trying to be honest.

Excuse my triple post. I will vote for Masters of the Universe.

By the way friends. I suggest we move on. I will be using this starry night to look into other suspicions and will bring them up with the sun. I am done playing defense.

Cobalt 2 wrote:What the fuck is this bullshit? Long Con lives again?

Long Con - The Unlynchable!

Lipsticklacey 2 wrote:RIP DrWilgy. I guess that's a lynch switch, or Long Con 2 has a role that does fit the meta, and makes him difficult to lunch.

Or maybe this is just more like it.

SVS 2 wrote:I'm pressed for time again. Register a vote for Long Con.

SVS must think I am the only one playing this game with her. Tunneling much?

SVS 2 wrote:

Long Con 2 wrote:I agree with this. SVS says that I pushed too hard on the Syn and mafia issue but I really didn't. I kept getting asked to clarify my initial reaction to Syn's post. I think the fact that I reiterated my initial thoughts three times, or so, made everyone go after me as if my theory was a huge deal. Have I pushed for a Syn lynch? No, not at all. I voted for him in order to save myself, that is all. My original reaction/theory to Syn's post was blown out of proportion and everyone who is still on it needs to move on.

This may have some merit. I read back for context and you did raise the issue when prompted aside from the first time. I'm still bothered by it though because you maintained it as a real cause for suspicion and I really don't think it is, even on day 1. Synonym could have named any number of people and this logic could apply the same way, suspecting him for naming five people instead of four or six or whatever seems forced. Also there's this:

Long Con 2 wrote:SVS-I have no specific example at the moment as I need to hurry off and prepare some sandwiches. However, I can say off the top of my head that I have seen mafia throw names out in the beginning of a game in order to gauge reaction from the civilians. I guess this allows them to see who it is best to "find suspicious".

I'm assuming there's no need to make any sandwiches now, so I hope you can address this point. I asked you for an example of a mafia member blurting out a pile of names on day 1 because you said you think baddies do that. I don't see how baddies would gain anything by "gauging reactions" about random names at the very beginning of the game.

Not blurting out a pile of names, but bringing up a person or persons begin mafia when there is nothing to go on yet just to see how they and the thread reacts to those specific names. It a way to know their next move, who they should seriously consider making a "case" for. In all honesty I don't know how to give you a specific example without going back and reading Day 1 of the games I have been in before and I don't have to time to do that as I have played several games over the years. Please forgive me but mafia doesn't mean THAT much to me that I would spend hours searching for those examples. I am shocked that you have never seen such a thing happen. I have even had a fellow mafia player tell me (outside of mafia) that he/she does this on a regular basis at the beginning of his/her game.

boo 2 wrote:So there was a no lynch, and then mafia didnt get a kill. I feel justified in saying that was probably the most unproductive Day 1 I've ever seen. We're technically still in day 1 since we dont really have anything new to work with. Just a whole bunch of straw grasping going on.

Could anyone be bothered to provide an actual clear synopsis on why people are saying Con is mafia? I'm skimming what I've missed and I havent seen anything definitive yet.

I agree with this. SVS says that I pushed too hard on the Syn and mafia issue but I really didn't. I kept getting asked to clarify my initial reaction to Syn's post. I think the fact that I reiterated my initial thoughts three times, or so, made everyone go after me as if my theory was a huge deal. Have I pushed for a Syn lynch? No, not at all. I voted for him in order to save myself, that is all. My original reaction/theory to Syn's post was blown out of proportion and everyone who is still on it needs to move on.

linki JJJ: what are your reasons, please share.

Dom 2 wrote:

fingersplints wrote:The lynch was not tied. In the event of a tie, the lynch would be randomized.

The host specifically said that the lynch was not tied.

So even though the vote totals appeared that way, there was some sort of manipulation, even if someone's vote was worth more than others.

I am glad to be alive. I'm not surprised that there was a lynch manipulation (or two or three...who knows) as that is normal in most games I've played. I usually don't care for them as it makes it more difficult to decipher what happened during the lynch. But in this case, I'm thankful.

I am voting for Bioshock.

I have not caught up in full, but it is time for me to vote and I want to save myself obviously. Alas, I shall try.

Sig 2 wrote:And I'm voting Long Con II. His weird tunnelling of Synonym's post is not civvie play, to me.

I'm not necessarily tunneling on Synonym. I only keep getting asked to reiterate my initial thoughts of his post. I will not explain my thoughts another time. Obviously I will be holding my vote in order to save myself.

Synonym 2 wrote:

Long Con 2 wrote:When I read Synonym's post in which he listed the five names, my thoughts were "five mafia? Did I miss something?" I then looked on page 1 where Roxy said the roles would be listed eventually and still saw no such roles. I thought, "how did he come up with this number of five? Maybe he knows there are five and so he listed five people subconsciously." I then put my theory out there for discussion. I believe it is a common mafia strategy to call out names in the beginning of the game to gauge reactions. These two things put together cause me pause. Also, please note that Synonym has yet to give reason for calling out the five players that he did even though I have asked him to explain why he thought those five players specifically were mafia.

For fuck's sake.

Satire.

I didn't THINK those people were mafia.

Jesus fucking Christ.

Whether or not you think those five players are mafia or not, my point still stands. SVS-I have no specific example at the moment as I need to hurry off and prepare some sandwiches. However, I can say off the top of my head that I have seen mafia throw names out in the beginning of a game in order to gauge reaction from the civilians. I guess this allows them to see who it is best to "find suspicious".

When I read Synonym's post in which he listed the five names, my thoughts were "five mafia? Did I miss something?" I then looked on page 1 where Roxy said the roles would be listed eventually and still saw no such roles. I thought, "how did he come up with this number of five? Maybe he knows there are five and so he listed five people subconsciously." I then put my theory out there for discussion. I believe it is a common mafia strategy to call out names in the beginning of the game to gauge reactions. These two things put together cause me pause. Also, please note that Synonym has yet to give reason for calling out the five players that he did even though I have asked him to explain why he thought those five players specifically were mafia.

Linki: Welcome Dr Wilgy. Good to have you Sir.

To clarify, when I say "stopped at five", I mean, you could have named more, you could have named fewer. Why five? Also, I don't mean for this to sound like an interrogation, just conversation.

Synonym 2 wrote:

Synonym 2 wrote:[insert game solving supertown post here]

Mafia is Golden, Long Con, Metalmarsh, Cobalt, and Rico.

Gg everyone.

Satire.

My eyes are rolling so hard right now.

Long Con 2 wrote:You are correct, cookie. I was trying to begin discussion, not stifle it. The act that Synonym talked about the skin of his sock account doesn't bother me as much as him saying that there are five baddies among us. How would he know that unless he was one of them.

Also, what does the skin of my sock account have to do with anything? I asked a question because the forum looked drastically different and much more boring when I originally logged into this account. You say it doesn't bother you "as much" as me listing five names, but why does that even bother you at all?

You are right. The skin thing doesn't bother me at all actually. In fact, I assume that the person who last used your sock account had just left it that way. Naming five names right out of the bat like that does bother me a bit. Specifically naming five names could mean that you know there are five mafia members. That is all I meant to imply with my post. That said, can you tell us why you chose to name the five players that you did? And can you tell us why you stopped at five?

EBWOP: the fact that*

You are correct, cookie. I was trying to begin discussion, not stifle it. The act that Synonym talked about the skin of his sock account doesn't bother me as much as him saying that there are five baddies among us. How would he know that unless he was one of them.

SVS 2 wrote:If it's all truly randomized then I don't see why someone couldn't be their own sock. I don't know if there's any way of knowing though or of gaining anything from wondering about it.

I must have missed the part where Roxy and/or Fingersplints said that the roles were randomized. But I agree, it's not worth worrying about right now. We need to use our time wisely. Cookie, do you have any suspicions yet?

Ricochet 2 wrote:
No suspicions yet. The role playing is lots of fun, but I could see some baddies hiding behind it.

Could you offer a bit more clarification as to what you mean by baddies hiding behind their role playing? Do you think you are seeing this happen already? If so, by whom?

It's been about twenty-four hours since Gamer Guy checked in. It may be possible that he forgot to vote or maybe he is one of the players with information on the poll and he knew better than to vote at all.

I just want to commend you all on the upstanding job you are doing so far at being hilariously entertaining in your socks.

Cobalt 2 wrote:How long does day 0 happen?

According to the host, until everyone checks in. I am not too passionate about any of the poll options. I will go with Grimm's Fairy Tales.

This should be a lot of fun. Now I must go make out with Black Rock.