The Syndicate

Prisoner 126993 wrote:Trust me on this one is all I ask.

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Prisoner 606386 wrote:813 you forgot to mention that he has an unexplained hatred for 606 and that he disrespects them every chance he gets.

You still can't get over the fact that I wanted to do "99 Bottles of Beer on the Wall" as a solo and not a duet, can you?

No, I can't. Especially since you didn't even finish it and with my help you would have.

I did finish that song thank you very much. I stopped 2/3 of the way through and then resumed when I was able. Once the prison yard threads are fully visible, I can prove it. I believe 208 was there to witness the occasion.

It doesn't count if you took a break.

Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, Ex-zip-it A.

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Prisoner 606386 wrote:813 you forgot to mention that he has an unexplained hatred for 606 and that he disrespects them every chance he gets.

You still can't get over the fact that I wanted to do "99 Bottles of Beer on the Wall" as a solo and not a duet, can you?

No, I can't. Especially since you didn't even finish it and with my help you would have.

I did finish that song thank you very much. I stopped 2/3 of the way through and then resumed when I was able. Once the prison yard threads are fully visible, I can prove it. I believe 208 was there to witness the occasion.

Prisoner 640326 wrote:606 could you do a live blog of Buffy please?

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Prisoner 606386 wrote:813 you forgot to mention that he has an unexplained hatred for 606 and that he disrespects them every chance he gets.

You still can't get over the fact that I wanted to do "99 Bottles of Beer on the Wall" as a solo and not a duet, can you?

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Prisoner 606386 wrote: I've never said that she couldn't, just that I highly doubt it.

How come?

I know you probably said it but I have been eating too so i might of missed it in skimming

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Prisoner 606386 wrote: I've never said that she couldn't, just that I highly doubt it.

How come?

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Prisoner 606386 wrote:Is that impossible?

From my perspective it's not impossible. How about your perspective? How likely do you feel that would be?

No idea, honestly. All I'm pretty sure about was that Silverwolf was not a stool pigeon. The rest is total uncertainty.

And I am sure she was. Want to take a bet on it?

Betting implies this is a luck-based disagreement when it isn't.

So you are admitting silver could be a stool pigeon?

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Prisoner 606386 wrote:Is that impossible?

From my perspective it's not impossible. How about your perspective? How likely do you feel that would be?

No idea, honestly. All I'm pretty sure about was that Silverwolf was not a stool pigeon. The rest is total uncertainty.

And I am sure she was. Want to take a bet on it?

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Sloonei wrote: Neither of these are satisfactory answers.

It's a good thing that it doesn't matter then does it?

This is what I mean when I talk about judgment being clouded...

...not that that has anything to do with you though, of course.

How so? I was just pointing to sloonei that there are so many more votes out right now that asking me something of the sort seems, pointless?

It's alarming because when serious questions and concerns are brought up and you say that it doesn't matter or that it's pointless, it raises more concerns about your motives and/or possible bias.

I gave my answers. I can't say much else without breaking rules...

I have never been one to explain well.

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Sloonei wrote: Neither of these are satisfactory answers.

It's a good thing that it doesn't matter then does it?

This is what I mean when I talk about judgment being clouded...

...not that that has anything to do with you though, of course.

How so? I was just pointing to sloonei that there are so many more votes out right now that asking me something of the sort seems, pointless?

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Prisoner 606386 wrote:Is that impossible?

From my perspective it's not impossible. How about your perspective? How likely do you feel that would be?

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Turnip Head wrote:ika could have been the real stool pigeon and Soneji could still be town.

How do you figure? I think Soneji quite clearly hinted at himself being the stool pigeon which ika flipped as. If that's not true, then I can't fathom a town motive for Soneji to do that.

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Prisoner 606386 wrote:Soneji might be a cop anyway but not because Silver was the stool pigeon.

Are you claiming to be the real one?

No, I'm claiming that if Soneji is a cop then it's not because Silver was the stool pigeon.

Do you think Soneji could genuinely be a stool pigeon?

I think it's possible, but I'm on the fence as to how likely it is.

Do you think both Soneji and Boomslang/Enrique could genuinely be stool pigeons?

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Sloonei wrote: Neither of these are satisfactory answers.

It's a good thing that it doesn't matter then does it?

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Prisoner 606386 wrote:Soneji might be a cop anyway but not because Silver was the stool pigeon.

Are you claiming to be the real one?

No, I'm claiming that if Soneji is a cop then it's not because Silver was the stool pigeon.

Do you think Soneji could genuinely be a stool pigeon?

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Prisoner 606386 wrote:Soneji might be a cop anyway but not because Silver was the stool pigeon.

Are you claiming to be the real one?

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Sloonei wrote:Seeing as we've got two players seeming to claim that ika was the seemer, I'm willing to believe that he was, but I'm not sure who to believe is the real Daisy stool pigeon.

We have no reason to question Silverwolf's motives. She was arrested because she was town, and her perspective was an honest one. The only question to be asked is this one:

Did Silverwolf intend to convey to us that she was the real stool pigeon, and that was how she knew ika was the seemer? Or did she intend to convey to us that she knew ika was the seemer because she felt she could read him really well?

One of those arguments is obviously stronger than the other, and if it's the former then Soneji is a cop. I'll dig in after dinner.

Prisoner 419713 wrote:Their relationship clouds nothing about their judgements.

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Prisoner 606386 wrote:This seems to be all you've got so far, Sloonei.

Prisoner 958153 wrote: 3) Sloonei shouldn't be immune from having every inch of himself thoroughly interrogated, especially with these few players left.

I can't even find this post, where is it? But I appreciate the skepticism, even if it is misplaced.

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Prisoner 606386 wrote:I highly doubt that Silverwolf was the stool pigeon.

Why?

Are there any reasons to think she was the stool pigeon beyond her claiming to know ika was the seemer?

That alone is a decent reason. She was also totally insistent about it.

Are there any reasons not to that don't also apply to Soneji?

With most players that would be a decent reason, but given their relationship I don't think it is, especially because she was so insistent about it. Silverwolf and ika have proven themselves to be extremely insistent defenders of each other in multiple games, and while you could (and they often have) make the argument that their experience with each other helps back up their defense, I think their love clouds their ability to be objective with reading each other. Not a slight to them whatsoever, I'm just saying that I would take their reads of each other (and this includes role speculation) with a grain of salt at best.

I don't know about Soneji.

I can understand a grain of salt. That's agreeable. You said you "highly doubt it" though. That's a whole bag of rock salt. Surely there's more to your reasoning for such a strongly stated conviction?

Prisoner 958153 wrote: 3) Sloonei shouldn't be immune from having every inch of himself thoroughly interrogated, especially with these few players left.

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Prisoner 483934 wrote:I'm voting for Elohcin because y'all seem pretty positive.

Same here.

We're not. There is still plenty to discuss.

Prisoner 483934 wrote:I'm voting for Elohcin because y'all seem pretty positive.

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Prisoner 606386 wrote:I highly doubt that Silverwolf was the stool pigeon.

Why?

Are there any reasons to think she was the stool pigeon beyond her claiming to know ika was the seemer?

That alone is a decent reason. She was also totally insistent about it.

Are there any reasons not to that don't also apply to Soneji?

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Prisoner 606386 wrote:I highly doubt that Silverwolf was the stool pigeon.

Why?