The Syndicate

Dom wrote:Also, sorry for sucking so much in this game

This reminded me to tell you, see I told you I wasn't bad

BWT I thought you were bad I was trying to push to get you out if you hadn't killed me and left Blooper all alone

SVS do you think the horoscopes see that the one with wings is in evil demon summoning ways? Lol

Rip MP Glad I changed my mind on you after your defenses.
Okay so SVS clearly is under a hex. I think MP voting could explain maybe his reasoning to go after Mongoose now?

I don't feel convinced 100% based on MP's defense, so I'm going to vote my other suspect, BWT.

Sorry I didn't notice the green replies. I see now your reply, MP.

MP, your thought on. Mongoose are insightful. However, I would like to know why you voted me and now changed your mind specifically since then? You never really explained besides you weren't after me now.

My thoughts on the recent posts:
I agree that it makes sense if Night 2 someone had been blocked. However, it doesnt rule out that the mafia isn't someone still being quiet.
I personally agree missing the kill (A Person) Night 1 then other mafia (mystery person) was blocked Night 2. With that being said, for me i have to consider Keterman again barely talking and being replaced with BWT could have been blocked or MP being absent and missing the kill, also not knowing his teammate died because he hasnt been around and assumed A Person would be around to kill for them, makes them my two likely suspects today.

Yay no death again!!
2 nights in a row with no kills strikes me as odd though.

Does anyone else agree the mafia may be someone not as active and missing PMs for kills?

Insertnamehere, glad you're back. I hated not having my iPad for a week so I understand how you must have felt

For the ones who are on the fence about me, I do want to say most of you have played with me before and as SVS stated this is my normal Civ behavior. I do get defensive easily and sometimes misinterpret things to make me get over defensive. I have not played like this when I'm bad, and for those who have seen me bad I hope you can agree. I hope you all can see this is normal Civ Boogs and shed some light between us all on who we think the mafia really is. I'm surprised A Person showed up mafia because I was only voting him to make it a way I wouldn't die with the votes, and he was very quiet. Do you guys think anyone else quiet could be bad or think someone who has been vocal is? Not many of us are talking... It's like 5 of us.

Yes SVS that was the one. I misinterpreted what you said I guess, I had briefly remembered it last night before I had to go to bed. I hope you can possibly feel a little better about me now. There are lot of quiet players and players that didn't vote as well.

Linki Hedgeowl I agree with you saying he reads as Civ, however he gets fixated on the wrong people from my personal experience with him. I haven't played that Bioshock game with you guys. I take his behavior as typical, and so far read him as Civ. But I was just trying to change his mind on fixating on me and trying to blow my post joke to Baddie behavior.

S~V~S wrote:

Boogs wrote:I can't tell who has how many votes, but im surprised SVS voted me after she said she isnt sure if I am bad ornot. Voting A Person to try to spare me dying.

Where did i say that?

I remember a post saying that you were kind of defending Dom and me regarding our playstyles (that is how I read it) but we didn't catch your vote, and assuming you weren't voting either of us but when you did it surprised me.

I can't tell who has how many votes, but im surprised SVS voted me after she said she isnt sure if I am bad ornot. Voting A Person to try to spare me dying.

Oh cool. I didn't see it was extended. I can actually wait to vote right after work on my phone then

Dom wrote:Just to be clear, this is the post with the genetic fallacy in it:

Boogs wrote:

Dom wrote:*this suspicion has no basis because you're wrong*
what

Because dude you do this every game. You get fixated on a single player and Bullz has told me how you do that to him EVERY game you play. When I hosted Pokemon you did it to him. You're doing this to me now. You have a really bad radar man. Taking myself out of the equation if I was any other player viewing what you said, I have no earthly idea how me making a joke about another game some how means I'm gunning to kill that player when my vote has not been for them or have I ever tried to rally or suggest any players vote for them.

Linki I didn't vote Epignosis because I didn't think he was
bad. Are you questioning any other players who didn't vote for Epignosis? No.

LINKI
Bad Radar, to you, is not good at picking out who baddies are. . .
. . . which is the entire point of mafia. . .
. . . so you said I suck at Mafia. . .
. . . and therefore must be wrong. . .
. . . rather than saying why I am wrong. . .
. . . you pointed out that the information came from someone you think sucks at mafia. . .
. . . so basically you don't care what my reasons are, just that others don't follow them.

Dom I really hope you aren't taking it to heart and interpreting my posts as you suck. That would never be something I would say to a player. What I'm trying to help you understand is, your read on people that I witnessed isn't as sharp as some players when they accuse baddies. It wasn't meant to say you are a bad player, it was meant to show you past situations that haven't been accurate to help you change your thinking of why you accused me and see it could be a different outcome. Does that make sense? Again, I'm sorry if you felt offended in any way. I hope that we can move forward and if we continue to not see eye to eye, then let's agree to disagree.

Dom wrote:What happened to the fact that all claims from me must be false because they're from me, Boogs?

Dude you're misinterpreting things. You're pulling words to all my posts in this game and twisting them.

I said you have a bad radar. I said you get fixated on a single player. I will define what I meant to make sure you understand:

Bad radar- When reading players, one often suggests the wrong person to be lynched and does not pick up on baddies as well

Fixated- to single out one player in a game and continuously try to get them out and them alone . Cited: You going after a friend outside the game we play with named Bullzeye in almost every game you both play together because he has told me and I have witnessed this as a host in Pokemon.

Dom you and me going back and forth is 2 Civs arguing and it isn't going to get us any closer to the mafia. You cast your vote and great. I can't change it. I can however try to tell you and reason with you that you are reading me incorrectly and try to help you understand where I was coming from because you aren't reading my posts in this game as clearly as I am trying to make them for you to get my point of view.

Dom wrote:

Boogs wrote:Epignosis, you be sure to tell us if your wife is evil once again with those spouse tingling skills of yours, okay? Lol

Boogs wrote:Elohcin, do no doubt the great teacher one's sense of evil

Two times in a day with pretty much zero Epignosis response? Seems a bit much to me.

I'm sorry if I like to make jokes with players I enjoy in a game? Is that something that makes me suspicious for doing so?

Linki Dom it's not worth arguing about. You are taking my joke to another player I'm friends with way too far. You voted me and you can't change the vote, so good for you. You voted wrong. Maybe you'll get it right tomorrow.

And an easy lynch on who? Elohcin? Someone else? I define an easy lynch as going with the flow for no sound reason to ensure that player gets another vote to die. I don't see how I did that voting for A Person? I don't follow you.??

Dom wrote:*this suspicion has no basis because you're wrong*
what

Because dude you do this every game. You get fixated on a single player and Bullz has told me how you do that to him EVERY game you play. When I hosted Pokemon you did it to him. You're doing this to me now. You have a really bad radar man. Taking myself out of the equation if I was any other player viewing what you said, I have no earthly idea how me making a joke about another game some how means I'm gunning to kill that player when my vote has not been for them or have I ever tried to rally or suggest any players vote for them.

Linki I didn't vote Epignosis because I didn't think he was bad. Are you questioning any other players who didn't vote for Epignosis? No.

Also Dom, can you pull quotes on this that I have done "multiple times" about trying to get Elohcin lynched? I'd love to see these non existent quotes. And if you can provide where I've said in my quotes to vote her today, I will even vote on myself.

Because truth is, I've done nothing to suggest ANYONE vote for her today. She wasn't in my suggestions at all.

Dom wrote:

Boogs wrote:Sorry guys. Had a lot going on after work today and just now got home with Corsair. Rip Epignosis :/

I do think it's worth a look at some Epignosis voters without sound reason for doing it. I'm honestly surprised he got 5 votes myself.

And Dom I wasn't fixated in the least or I would have tried to get people to vote for Elohcin. I think it's weird you are fixated on me for a Day 0 comment, myself. But, it's just you being you I guess.

You're bad.

You asked about Elohcin MULTIPLE TIMES. Not just on Day zero. You're lying.

You're telling me that you didn't bring up this multiple times to try and get an easy lynch??


*votes Boogs*

You're horribly wrong. I guess I'm the new Bullzeye for you since he's not playing.

nijuukyugou wrote:I agree with changing the poll times - while I do stay up late, I prefer not having to vote at that time. Evening vote time, if possible

There are several people who haven't said a word since the last lynch (INH, AP, Hedgeowl, and Keterman), and nutella has posted since but without much substance that I can see. Perhaps one or two have been silenced (there are a couple of roles that allow for unexplained "hexes" and "potions"), but I'm thinking the baddies are lying low today. I don't like to vote for someone based solely on low posts, but it feels like those who are talking are Civvies going after other Civvies. Like Mongoose, I'm also not keen on this suspicion of Boogs. Dom's reasoning was that he was "fixated" on Eloh, but if that were the case, then why didn't Boogs vote Eloh Day 1? Or even halfway attempt a lynch? It just seemed like he was making a joke based on the Hobbit to me. Are there other reasons I'm missing? Or is anyone else suspicious of the silence? Thoughts??

Exactly my thoughts Blooper. My joke on A Day 0 turned into Dom thinking I was after Elohcin when I was being playful. I didn't bring up any reason to want to lynch her or encourage anyone to do so. I'm not sure why MP is agreeing with Dom and I know something weird is going on based on the way he talked.
But, I have to say low posters indeed should be examined. Based on the 2 I thought should be examined, I think Vomps makes good with me (so far) in the game but A Person could have easily followed his logic now that I understand what he was trying to say more clearly.
If I were to vote a low poster, I'd vote Keterman only because I don't know his/her play style yet and I know in my first mafia I was given teammates and was bad to help me... I don't really have much else to go on right now. Unfortunately, my vote has to be cast tonight before bed because right after work tomorrow I am going to a friend's house to play games. So hopefully something better will be laid out in the forum that is better than that vote for me at least.

Vompatti wrote:

Boogs wrote:

A Person wrote:

Vompatti wrote:I'd rather not vote Epi because I've been enjoying his posts so far, but if I choose to be rational that's probably where my vote will go.

That is why I'm voting Epi, I'm not sure what else to do

Mp- Those two votes (Vomps and A Person) didn't really make sense. Like I totally get Day 1 is a crap shoot but Vomps said it was rational to vote him. How so?
And A Person voted Epignosis in accordance with a quote from Vomps and saying he isn't sure what else to do. Just seemed like an easy way out on that Epignosis train.

But I have to consider not all votes were in it looked like also. But we have not much to go on beside the vote record and content so far which isn't much posting.

It was rational because he voted for Lizzy for no reason, which was pretty much the only suspicious thing that had happened in the game by that time.

Thanks for the clarification Vomps. I can see where you were coming from now.

So because Dom says something, it must be true MP? Hmm missed that in the game rules.

A Person wrote:

Vompatti wrote:I'd rather not vote Epi because I've been enjoying his posts so far, but if I choose to be rational that's probably where my vote will go.

That is why I'm voting Epi, I'm not sure what else to do

Mp- Those two votes (Vomps and A Person) didn't really make sense. Like I totally get Day 1 is a crap shoot but Vomps said it was rational to vote him. How so?
And A Person voted Epignosis in accordance with a quote from Vomps and saying he isn't sure what else to do. Just seemed like an easy way out on that Epignosis train.

But I have to consider not all votes were in it looked like also. But we have not much to go on beside the vote record and content so far which isn't much posting.

Sorry guys. Had a lot going on after work today and just now got home with Corsair. Rip Epignosis :/

I do think it's worth a look at some Epignosis voters without sound reason for doing it. I'm honestly surprised he got 5 votes myself.

And Dom I wasn't fixated in the least or I would have tried to get people to vote for Elohcin. I think it's weird you are fixated on me for a Day 0 comment, myself. But, it's just you being you I guess.

I start work in 30 mins so I'm going to randomize and vote for A Person.

Dom wrote:

Boogs wrote:I was referencing this:

Elohcin wrote:

Boogs wrote:Epignosis, you be sure to tell us if your wife is evil once again with those spouse tingling skills of yours, okay? Lol

Epi's opinions are not flawless.

I understand.

Why the fixation on Elo?

Just making a joke was all

I was referencing this:

Elohcin wrote:

Boogs wrote:Epignosis, you be sure to tell us if your wife is evil once again with those spouse tingling skills of yours, okay? Lol

Epi's opinions are not flawless.

Elohcin, do no doubt the great teacher one's sense of evil

Dom wrote:

Epignosis wrote:4 And it came to pass that the Tilded One spake ignorance of the goings and comings of the Hedgeowl, even though, on the Third Day of WWE (cf., The Twenty-third of December in the Year of our Lord 2013), the Hedgeowl announced its intentions to search for evil among those who had oft spoken.

5 And in those days, the Tilded One had walked in the ways of evil (cf., The Fifteenth of December, in the Year of our Lord 2013, being a strong and mighty Big Show, working for the worshipers of Mammon.

Does SVS's alignment in that game have any meaning in this game?

Boogs wrote:Day 1 is always a poop shoot, and no one has raised either of my two lovely kitty eyebrows yet. I don't agree top posters always mean they are bad even if that ended up coincidently working in Hobbit for whatever reason.
Also I agree that I don't think it was a reward poll per se, but probably just where are we going type of thing like when Epignosis did X Men.

Boogs, I never said hello back to you! So, hello! <3


Why "probably"?

Hello Dom! Nice to see you not being devoured by the Negaverse

Probably because it seems most games I have played that is how it goes. But, I haven't played a Llama game so just assuming SVS was correct and agreeing.

Day 1 is always a poop shoot, and no one has raised either of my two lovely kitty eyebrows yet. I don't agree top posters always mean they are bad even if that ended up coincidently working in Hobbit for whatever reason.
Also I agree that I don't think it was a reward poll per se, but probably just where are we going type of thing like when Epignosis did X Men.

Epignosis, you be sure to tell us if your wife is evil once again with those spouse tingling skills of yours, okay? Lol

Yay checking in now that I'm off work! Alchemy makes me think of a black mage, so that is my choice.