The Syndicate

DFaraday wrote:

Hedgeowl wrote:Dfaraday caught my notice as well.

Hi Hedge! I will do my best to answer any issues you have with me.

Hi dF! this was actually your post that had me curious of what led you to the teammates conclusion inlight of the rolechecker discussion. I know others mentioned it as well, but yours was the one i remembered reading and thinking huh, why does he think that.

DFaraday wrote:After finally catching up, I do find both Epi and Dom to make compelling points regarding their respective nemeses. However, I agree with SVS that Made was very likely saved, and I think that if Enrique is bad, he's teamed with Made. I feel more confident about Made being a baddie than Enrique overall though.

Dom wrote:Bass do you mean this? Because this is the only post of yours I read that would be a "reason".

Hedgeowl wrote:

Dom wrote:

Hedgeowl wrote:RIP zeek!! That is a sucky way to go for sure.

I think it was a wise move to NK made, but i only wish we learned his role for confirmation.

I will be voting Enrique now, because yeah...

Because why?
You've never really stated a reason.

I didn't actually think it necessary to state my reasons since I am voting for him again, but point taken. My initial vote was based on the fact that Enri and Made seemed to be defending each other in thread I suspect Enrique even more after the last lynch because of Made's strange self-vote and refusal to vote for Enrique. The posts of his back and forth with Epi and MP have rung as a cornered baddie to me as well. It makes no sense to me that Made would not vote for Enrique to save himself even if he were a civ. his survival seems like a very good confirmation of their likely connection. I think an Enrique lynch will give us the most usual result, despite MP's insistence that his lynch will give us important info.

Thank you hedge. I'm not sure I feel very good about you, but thank you nonetheless.

Ok, that's fair. I am here if any specific bothers you. I am not sure how I feel about most people in this game, except for Enrique right now. I feel that he is likely bad.

Dom wrote:

Hedgeowl wrote:RIP zeek!! That is a sucky way to go for sure.

I think it was a wise move to NK made, but i only wish we learned his role for confirmation.

I will be voting Enrique now, because yeah...

Because why?
You've never really stated a reason.

I didn't actually think it necessary to state my reasons since I am voting for him again, but point taken. My initial vote was based on the fact that Enri and Made seemed to be defending each other in thread I suspect Enrique even more after the last lynch because of Made's strange self-vote and refusal to vote for Enrique. The posts of his back and forth with Epi and MP have rung as a cornered baddie to me as well. It makes no sense to me that Made would not vote for Enrique to save himself even if he were a civ. his survival seems like a very good confirmation of their likely connection. I think an Enrique lynch will give us the most usual result, despite MP's insistence that his lynch will give us important info.

Dom wrote:Hedgie, are you gonna respond to my question?

Lol, yes, but I thought surely Dom will wait for a a few hours. I was preparing a post, but dinner and bedtime got in the way. I will be back in 30 mins.

Long Con wrote:Which declaration? You as Civ, or Enrique as baddie?

I believe you are Civ because I think you are being honest with your latest posts. I don't think this is a grand deception you're pulling, I think your words are the real deal.

I think Enrique is bad mainly because of the way Made self-voted to keep Enrique safe from vote-manip-revealing. Secondarily because there's some good arguments out there for his baddiness otherwise. There are people who are dead-set on him being a baddie, and that passion does affect my perception of him. If he turns up Civ, then those people will rise considerably on my suspicion list.

Although I should say that Roxy's viewpoint on Epig being a Cyber-dude with a role-checker friend quite intriguing, and deserves some analysis. I think there's an unspoken level of "cred" that one gets when they die as a Civvie and return to the game, as though they are likely to be Civvie again, but that point of view is dangerous.

I agree with this thought about role checkers. There were several people who seemed very sure before the lynch that Made and Enri are teamies. I am rarely comfortable with that level of certainty in a game. One thought for me is that it would feel a lot like info dumping if the cyber team were to all come out like that and names names so to speak. However, I would like to re read the lynch for those first mentioning the idea. Dfaraday caught my notice as well.

juliets wrote:Thanks a lot MM and Dana and zeek and Long Con and anyone else that helped with decoding. I am a complete fail at it and usually don't play games that have it because as a civ who can't do it you never know what the civ roles say. But that sneaky bea and bwt slipped them in after the game started! So many thanks for those who picked up the slack and did the decoding. If I forgot your name speak up so I know who I'm thanking.

Yes, well said. Thank you all for decoding!

RIP zeek!! That is a sucky way to go for sure.

I think it was a wise move to NK made, but i only wish we learned his role for confirmation.

I will be voting Enrique now, because yeah...

Roxy wrote: Hedge - little Hedgey - I have not forgotten about you. I guess people just are not seeing what I am so maybe I am seeing things? I felt what I feel. Its all based on your style and me comparing it to LOST. I see TH feels the same but betwixt the two of us I do not see your lynch happening today. But maybe after the drama of all this (Made vs Dom vs Epi vs Enrique) is past we could all take a closer look at you. In the meantime have you ever finished catching up? How about sharing some thoughts?? You have been playing catch up since I first called you out

I wanted to make sure to reply to you before to get your pitchfork and other villagers at the next lynch. I KNEW my double-cross of you in LOST would come up in another game eventually. However, that was actually the point I was trying to make to TH who was a baddie with me that game. My game as a baddie is more present than it has been as I was a baddie in Clue with several players who just lynched me last week.

epignosis wrote: No. I have never won a game in two years on two sites as a civilian. Do you want to know why? It's simple really. I'm a threat. A serious fucking threat. I have leveled Mafia teams with but a few keystrokes. Shit, I've leveled my OWN Mafia team after I turned rogue, got drunk, told my team I was now working for an independent, then made up a series of lies and fake PMs from the host to fool my team into keeping me around. And then I decimated them (and one of these days I'll make it up to you Snow Dog, Bullzeye, Hedgeowl, and DFaraday! ).

I don't think any of us will ever fully recover from Bioshock. But I will corroborate that we also tried to wipe out Epi night 1 in Clue, but he survived :shakes fist: and proceeded to lynch me. : pout: to expect anyone to have 100% track record is unreasonable, but Epi does have a track record of leading many successful lynches. I would say in general he leads a lot of lynches though, partly because of those successes. However, it can be the most maddening thing when you are a civv too as I have also experienced. I think it's useful to read what Epi says because he does have a good eye for details and BS, but read it through with your own filter.

Snow Dog wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:Seems pretty likely that Made is bad, but I find it interesting everyone is jumping to conclusions. He very well may be the Dalek Emperor, or even The Master, but I see one civvie role that fits exactly the behavior that he was claiming (he wasn't sure if he'd survive, but he knows why he did). Funny that people are ignoring that option.

If he is Dalek Emperor and were targeted with an NK, he would die. If he were that civvie role, then I suppose he could die or live, I don't really know. And if he is The Master, then surely he would survive. So... whether anyone wants to target him with an NK, I don't know if it makes sense to or not. But it's up to them.

The way Enrique and Made voted seemed to me they were team mates with Made being unlynchable. Made voted himself to make as sure as possible Enrique didn't get lynched.

This is my current feeling as well. Especially after Made's big post last night.

I am voting Rexel because I liked that episode.

MovingPictures07 wrote:

Chris wrote:Or will it???

Dun dun dun.

Seriously, the only reason I'm still here and not sleeping is I want to witness Made's bombshell of a post.

This.

Standing by...

MovingPictures07 wrote:

Chris wrote:I'm saying this whole lynch feels odd...

Well, I won't disagree with that.

It does feel weird that it is so evenly split, but if one or both are really bad it's weird there's not more defense. From whatI am reding though it seems they have been defending each other, so idk.

Ok, I still have 2 pages to go, but am voting Enrique for now. I am going to keep reading before it ends, but don't want to miss.

Turnip Head wrote:Juliets I still feel like there's something off about Hedgeowl that can't be explained by Internet problems or being bad in other games. My gut says she's hiding something but it's not anything specific that I can point to. I've still got my eye on her but I have other suspects for today.

Ok, well let me know if you have any questions. Your wrong about me, but I can't argue with a gut.

Snow Dog wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Never mind Snow Dog, I reread your posts and you've been onto Hedge for awhile. I feel like I had suspected you for something but can't remember why.
Also thanks for getting my reference earlier.

omething

I haven't been onto Hedge for a while in all honesty. But i reread her and something seems off. She isn't posting as much as usual and she isn't saying much either. Could be real life issues I guesss.

Ok, so page 52 was apparently where i should been reading. What I actually find interesting reading through their posts is that both Snow and TH have been baddies with me before. They both have seen my more active baddie game. If i had teammates, i would have honestly prioritized this game more. Thats what i did with Clue. Go read it if you want to see my baddie game. I see phrases like this isnt like her or normal. But for what? My baddie game? My civvie game? Or for what it really is, that i was in 3 games early on, had internet going out, and a sick child and was fried and didnt really want to read pages on pages in a game i was so far behind in.

TH - i also found the Snow vote you mentioned, but he had moved it by the time i singed on in the evening.

Turnip Head wrote:If you are a civvie this game, MP, and I certainly have my doubts about that, I don't think you have been a rational one so far, no I noticed there was a portion of the thread that you missed, the part where Hedgeowl really started to get some heat. She had 4 votes at one point and was in the lead. Then you pop back in, start asking if anyone is considering changing their votes. Move your vote to Snowy "just to get it off LC", which you now explain is because your vote for LC wasn't doing anything where it was. Hedgie had 4 votes, and then shortly after that only had 3 I think once Snow Dog changed his vote. So why then did you not just campaign harder for an LC lynchtrain? Why did you feel the need to hop on the Snowmobile instead? From the thread it seems you felt stronger about LC, and that you were not sure about Snow's alignment at all, yet you went with the weaker suspicion in the end. Why?

Just saw this in Doms comment and wanted to reply. Was the 4 votes earlier in the day? I had 3 votes and then juliets moved hers, so I had two votes. Then in the final minutes of the vote i received another vote from daisy, so 3 votes. I was at the end of the lynch and would have moved my own vote to save myself if needed. There was no need though. Made was leading me, daisy, and mp by 2-3 votes and then suddenly snow dog went from 1 vote to 6.

MP also listed me with others as possible lynch candidates for today, but again this was not a save attempt for MP, diasy or me. We were not in danger of getting lynched with made in the lead. What doesnt make sense to me is if it was a save attempt for made why not throw more votes on me, daisy, or mp? We had at least a few more than snow, but for whatever reason Snow seemed to get the attention of the thread.

Linki yes chris thats what i am wondering above this last lynch as well

Welcome back Snowy! What are your thoughts on the last lynch?

S~V~S wrote:That is an extremely shitty result

Enrique wrote:

Gotrees wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:Gotrees, what do you think of Made, did I miss it somewhere or are you unsure?

Right now, I'm mostly unsure about Made. I feel like he wouldn't have all those votes if he wasn't really suspicious (or something evil was going on), but right now, I'm just not really seeing the suspicions around him.

Dom: Could you link me the posts where he said he misread you so I can get a sense of the context?

Look at the voters. Four out of five are hardly involved in this game.

I am curious as to how being quieter makes them bad. They all voted early, Bass at least as I recall voiced prior suspicion of Made; you and he even had a bit of discussion on it, where Bass said you were defending Made, iirc. They all voted fairly early, which would make them a pretty crappy baddie team. And I think we do not have crappy baddies this game since we have only lynched civs. All but ONE of those Snowy votes came after Made took his last vote. I don't want to hear that they were saving Daisy, or anyone else.

I still think Daisy is bad (and look forward to people explaining to me why they think she is civ, I have an open mind), but am more than willing to look in Mades direction tomorrow. Then, depending on how that goes, we can look at the Snowy voters.

That was a horrible result, and the fact that it was so obvious made it even more horrible

Ok, thank you for this. Having just reread through the last part of the lynch i cant see how it would be a save for daisy, mP, or me. Made was in the lead for votes and snow received 4 of his 5 votes when several of us only had 2 until the 3 votes we all then received. What doesnt make sense to me is why Snow? There were 3 other viable candidates as well. Maybe it was just that the thread energy was all there for snow, but it still felt odd.

Rip splints!

Turnip Head wrote:Hedgeowl what do you think about what you HAVE read?

Well i have more to catch up on since right after the vote (plus sections i may never get to). The lynch last night felt very weird. It looked like made was getting lynched, but suddenly everything shifted to snow dog, when i hadnt seen enough said about him before. I am looking to catch up on others opinions who have been following this game better for some clarity on why some people suspected him and if it was a possible save of Made.

Linki chris i definitely think you meant Dana. She seems to be working very hard on the code. I however i am a terrible code breaker.

Chris wrote:And I'll add, to the rest of the players following along, this proposed gambit of MP's all went down BEFORE Hedgie and co. deciphered that secret... when he would have thought that this little fact was safe...

Ok, there are like 10 pages to since last night again. But what does this mean? I see that peope have been decoding, but what did i decipher?

MovingPictures07 wrote:

Enrique wrote:

Gotrees wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:Gotrees, what do you think of Made, did I miss it somewhere or are you unsure?

Right now, I'm mostly unsure about Made. I feel like he wouldn't have all those votes if he wasn't really suspicious (or something evil was going on), but right now, I'm just not really seeing the suspicions around him.

Dom: Could you link me the posts where he said he misread you so I can get a sense of the context?

Look at the voters. Four out of five are hardly involved in this game.

Exactly. It's like how most of those people were on your case earlier this game.

Ok, so of the Made voters many seem fairly uninvolved in this game and came in and voted earlier. But the snow dog votes came in quite last minute, but from the more active players is that right? Has MM been suspecting someone other than Snow dog?

MovingPictures07 wrote:Wow, wouldn't have guessed a Snowy lynch at the beginning of the day.

Shit, I'm nervous. Fingers crossed.

Linki Hedge it's that he literally can't make any opinion on suspicion and he keeps following everyone else's votes, and he switched his vote today to you and then to Made and the whole process by which he did stank of ill will

Ok, so he is all over the place with suspicions and switched his vote 3 times. It feels weird that so many votes came in for him like that though. I would say it feels like more of an attempt to save Made.

I am still figuring out the snow dog thing. What is the suspicion on him?

Spacedaisy wrote:Ok pic I leave my vote where it is, it will be useless. This spread vote makes it very likely we will lynch a civ. So based on this I am evaluating voting patterns. It looks like three votes were placed on Made AFTER Hedge got two. I am moving my vote to Hedge. I realize it is not absolute proof, but it looks like it might be a save and I don't want to spread my vote farther than I have so I am going to try and mKe my vote count.

I assure you no one is trying to save me or i would have surely been here earlier and known that there were others picking up roxys case on me. There were 3 votes on me until juliets moved her vote, but i dint know what number it was at that point.

I am not caught up with the case on Made, but from what people are saying it is because of his different platpystyle this game? I am going to stick with my vote on spacedaisy for now for the azure vote. I wish I had more time and energy, but this is what i have now.

Roxy wrote:Not sure why it took so long to respond since you have been here for the vote and shrtly after and again for the night poll.
I did not twist anything It was a very simple question.
If you have been checking in on and off then why couldn't you respond to my simple question?

Roxy, did you not see my long post? That post took me 20 minutes to create. It was not a simple question in the sense that you mistated in your post what i actually said, which you dint acknowledge in this post. I am sorry i didnt respond sooner, but now that i have it doesnt even seem to matter. Honestly if i were bad i would have teammates to help me be more on top of this, but obviously i dont. I was too busy defending myself, helping my baddie team, and getting lynched in Clue. I even did that badly because my internt was on the fritz. Sorry if my response means nothing to you obviously, but there it is.

Long Con wrote:Too much activity! You're seeing a quieter LC because of the amount of posts to catch up on . I can barely keep up with this insanity!

This.

Dom wrote:

Hedgeowl wrote: If i havent responded to posts about me it's not because i am ignoring them it's because i havent posted at all. I will be on later tonight if people need me to address questions, although i dont know that there is much to say about my actions this game. I have posted 15 times in this game compared to MP or zeek with over 300 posts.

No idea where my suspicions are because i have at least 7 pages since last night to read i think.

I clipped this quote to highlight what I'm talking about.
How did you know people were talking about you if you haven't read in so long?

Dom, i have been checking in and reading what I have time for which has been skimming here and there, but every time i come on there are 5 or more pages of new posts and i keep falling further and further behind. I dont know that "people" were talking about me, but rather roxy and then saw several others mention me recently. However, now that see i have a few votes i clearly understand that i have been missing a lot more talk obviously. When this game started i was in all 3 games and a baddie in Clue. My focus was not on this game at all and i didnt even keep up. It was a relief to be lynched in monty python almost and then my focus was on clue and my baddie game. My interenet wigging out this week and a sick child didnt help. Now i am dead in both with working internet again. I am trying to be here, but with so mich to catch up on my fun relaxing mafia game becomes work and when i am exhasted its hard to go back read massive amounts of old pages.

Alright my understanding from reading through Roxy's posts is that she was bothereed by my post below and thought i was riding the fence on the juliets suspicion. Here is the post for reference:

Hedgeowl wrote:Ugh, was still trying to catch up and decide on my vote. I wasn't going to vote juliets and was debating whether to vote enrique instead. I really havent had enough time to properly catch-up. I think Epi made a valid case against juliets and it read pretty bad, but her defense is ringing true to me and how some of the votes came in seems very bandwagony.

I clearly state i was not going to vote juliets and had not decided whether i was going to vote enrique instead, because i felt that juliets was most likely civ. When i first read Epi's case i thought it did sound like a good case against juliets, but as i read further, juliets' response read to as genuine and sincere and the subsequent bandwagon votes that were coming in very fast didnt make me feel any better. What i ran out of time for was reading up on enrique to decide where my feelings were for him and whether i found him suspicious enough to vote.

Roxy wrote:Elo can you respond to my post since you responded to everyone else?

MP - My Hedge suspicion comes from her fence riding during the Juliets fiasco. She thought Epi made a "valid" case yet she could still see Juliets as being good. Fence riding at its best.

Roxy wrote:

Roxy wrote:Elo can you respond to my post since you responded to everyone else?

MP - My Hedge suspicion comes from her fence riding during the Juliets fiasco. She thought Epi made a "valid" case yet she could still see Juliets as being good. Fence riding at its best.

inre: Hedge: Let me add she did not vote that I could see - which is odd considering she was around.

I did not vote due to barely missing the vote as you can see in my post above that pinged you. I am not sure I understadn what you mean by odd in that case. I dont think it was fence riding at all. i think you are either 1. misunderstanding my post, or 2. Twisting my words. I hope this helps clear up any confusion and i will be here on and off if anyone has anymore questions.

I serisouly have no idea where my vote will go today, so will be reading.

juliets wrote:Hedgeowl - it is good to see you are here. It is very very important that you address this post. I know there are a lot of posts out there for you to catch up with but this is the gist of why you have so many votes - your lack of answer to Roxy. (There may be more but this is a big thing in the thought to lynch you). Someone correct me if I am wrong.

Roxy wrote:

Turnip Head wrote:Could you elaborate on your thoughts re: Hedgie, Roxy? She's been off my radar so far.

She is off your radar bc thats where she wants to be. Here is a link to her posts I made a post about her Day and commented more - she has promised twice to respoind to me but has yet to offer any response. What initially pinged me was the way she said Epi had made a valid case about Juliets yet Juliets could be good (I am paraphrasing here)
So when/if Juliets came back good (which she did) she could say - yeah I thought she could be civ. See I said so before the lynch was over.

You read her tell me what you think.

Thank you juliets! i am here now and will start reading and responding.

Hey all, apologies for the absence. We have been struggling with our internet access for a few days and all my energy went into the Clue game before i was so rudely lynched as a baddie. : pout: I didnt really have much time to keep up with this game with a sick baby this week sadly. If i havent responded to posts about me it's not because i am ignoring them it's because i havent posted at all. I will be on later tonight if people need me to address questions, although i dont know that there is much to say about my actions this game. I have posted 15 times in this game compared to MP or zeek with over 300 posts.

No idea where my suspicions are because i have at least 7 pages since last night to read i think.

Linki bullz that is exactly how i feel. Its become more of a chore with sooo many pages.

Voted perbea, because of evil time lord on karn. Sounds like a trap.
Back to reading....

Whew, back. sorry ya'll I got a sick baby who woke up and just got back to sleep. i thought the poll ended at 9:23 and didn't want to miss the vote again. Clearly we have more time, but I will be asleep when it ends.

I voted daisy because I didn't get the Azure voters at all and I think that seemed like a good place to start as someone summarized. I also find MP's suspicion of her worth noting, although it appears she is also suspicious of him, so I don't know where to take tbh.

Roxy - I am not ignoring you at all, but I am fried. I promise I will address your post on me.

If ya'll would stop posting so damn much I might have a prayer, but I am skimming as fast as I can to catch up.

Roxy wrote:

Roxy wrote:Elo can you respond to my post since you responded to everyone else?

MP - My Hedge suspicion comes from her fence riding during the Juliets fiasco. She thought Epi made a "valid" case yet she could still see Juliets as being good. Fence riding at its best.

inre: Hedge: Let me add she did not vote that I could see - which is odd considering she was around.

I have so many pages to catch up on, but just saw this as the last post. I was one of two omg so close to voting but just missed it by 30 seconds voters. I will be around later before the polls ends and can answer questions then.

Linki up the wazoo, but ditto to Elo for reals yo.

Guys my internet is not working so good . We are trying to fix it, but I have so many pages to catch up on I won't even try on this phone.

RIP juliets/RIver Song! What an awesome role (granted all the roles are really) Sorry to see you go as you are a wonderful and inquisitive player to have in any game. I will try not to miss anymore votes. I was literally about to click when it ended.

There is no effing way I would vote for Alfava, scariest freaking planet.

Voting Alzarius for lushness.

Ugh, was still trying to catch up and decide on my vote. I wasn't going to vote juliets and was debating whether to vote enrique instead. I really havent had enough time to properly catch-up. I think Epi made a valid case against juliets and it read pretty bad, but her defense is ringing true to me and how some of the votes came in seems very bandwagony.

juliets wrote:Oh wait!!!! The vote isnt until tomorrow!! No wonder no one is here. I am not voting MP at this time - there is plenty more time for something to happen.

All these games and the different times are making my head swim. Definitely glad we have a bit more time, so I can attempt to catch-up on reading by tomorrow, but I am probably out for tonight.

keys56000000000 wrote:Mafia on STV wasn't fun, at all. Lol. *shudders*

Oh god I hated those "HURR 100% CIVVIE DEERRP!" roll call days. I remember once I wrote "100% mafia" just to break the monotony. I figured it would work the same, the LD would check it and it'd come up false, so no harm done, but the rest of the players didn't see things that way, and I was promptly lynched.

Starting to remember why I stopped playing this game in the first place! Ha!

Anyway, looking forward to Day 1.

I think you and Lizzy would get along. She has been lynched early for her eccentric anarchist playstyle as well, but is always a blast. She's also a damned clever baddie and never to be trusted, k.

This thread is long and I am not going to finish catch-up before bed, but looks to be some good debate. Yay! More doctor who smileys are needed though.

I'll be back tomorrow to give thoughts on who I think we should I mean lynch.

S~V~S wrote:

Dom wrote:

S~V~S wrote:Don't clip quotes. It looks bad, tbh.

What constitutes clipping a quote?

wheeeeeeeeee
This does:

Made wrote:

zeek wrote: Day 0 before. I don't know how you guys play on this site. I don't want this to sound like tit for tat... but I find it weird you're making a big deal of my post.

Made wrote:

zeek wrote: I've never played in a game with Day 0 before.

Out of:

zeek wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:Given The Master appears to be an LMS, which makes complete sense, I would bet he has a pretty powerful role, so yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if he would resurrect after dying. I suppose The Doctor can as well though? Which means someone automatically regenerating after death could be either of those roles, potentially. So why wouldn't you mention that?

I was concentrating on the baddies, don't think it's helpful to discuss the potential secret powers of civs until necessary.

MovingPictures07 wrote:Consequently, while I do believe you have some logical and astute observations, in the end, I question the true intent behind your post. I've seen baddies (and I always try to do this myself as bad) who try to appear as helpful as possible but while simultaneously causing unnecessary paranoia, so just because I find myself agreeing with you, when I read your post part of me wondered if you are trying to set up misconceptions and paranoia.

Because you agree with me and I was trying to be helpful, I might be bad? I'm not, I was simply trying to help inform the non-Whovians who are playing. If the baddie teams were the Weeping Angels and the Slytheen I still would have speculated on likely secret powers. Due to the nature of those groups there wouldn't be a potential recruitment though, so would I have drawn your suspicion?
wooohoooo
It's Day 0, and I've never played in a game with Day 0 before. I don't know how you guys play on this site. I don't want this to sound like tit for tat... but I find it weird you're making a big deal of my post.

Especially on this site, where we can't link to the original post via the quote. Taking things out of their original context can change the meaning sometimes. When someone asks you to produce a quote, as I asked Made "where did Zeek say that", producing the whole thing is better, cutting and pasting parts of it out looks like you are trying to hide something. This is only my opinion, of course, but I am fairly sure other people have said similar things in other games.

And yeah, I have done the "edit instead of quote" thing in other peoples posts, too. For some reason it's easier for me to do that by accident on phone, so I try to avoid quoting on phone if possible. I usually catch it in preview, when I realize that my comments are in the text ~ it's one reason I avoid that trendy "replying in another color in the body of the quote" thing. I have only actually posted it once.

omg I am trendy finally!

In case anyone was concerned I cannot edit my posts.

I have also been known to skip, err I mean skim, MP's longer posts, especially in Full games. Although, that's not exclusive to him.

Gulp, day 0 ya'll and I already had a couple of pages to read.

MP is reading like his usual self, but dang MP, you like to start things off right away huh?

I didn't read zeeks post as anything but useful, even for those of us who have seen the show. I don't immediately think of how each role or secret could be used, so it's nice to have at least some speculation. I think MP's point about regeneration for both the doctor and the master is a good point as well. I definitely wouldn't be surprised about some recruitment aspect of cyber men, but possibly limited, and possibly daleks for balance. I think it was Supernatural where we (baddies) we able to recruit it we found a specific role.

Bullzeye wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:

Bullzeye wrote:Yay, game begins!

MovingPictures07 wrote:Lol, fair response. Is the role listing going to be updated to 31 roles or are those 3 roles secret?

I know you have a LOT to do, so I'm only curious.

What if the other 3 roles are the Silence and they're totally there but every time we look away we forget? Also, why are my arms covered in tally marks?

Wow, nice theory. That's a definite possibility and would explain why they're not listed. Would that be a third mafia team then? If so, that's kind of scary, but might actually be kind of a good thing since the baddies will have a lot of competing factions to worry about, and won't focus on just ridding civvies. When I had three mafia teams in Classic Rock, there was more fighting among mafia teams than I expected, with the Satanists rising to an advantage among the ashes of the other two. So I wonder if that's what's going on here.

I was actually kidding at first! I suppose they could seriously be the Silence though, which would lend to the idea of them being bad.

MovingPictures07 wrote: Does anyone have any ideas as to what this poll might cause game-wise?

I know it could be unlikely we'll guess correctly, so it probably is sort of pointless to speculate, but there's really nothing wrong with discussing it, especially since it appears we can change votes.

I just assumed it was like a check in activity really.

Oh man, the Silence would be an awesome secret or weeping angels!

MovingPictures07 wrote:

Dom wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:Oh god, those things. Okay, terrible story arc, I will admit that.

I love Eccleson, but I just hated the farting aliens.

Agreed entirely. The rest of his episodes were great.

I had forgotten about that aspect. There were many unfortunate things about that season, but after a whole season with eccleston I had grown to really like him, even if the effects, etc. were so bad.

Dana wrote:Bea that was the best pun I've heard all night you are the best person omg

also omg 2 games starting on the same night??

I kinda have a soft spot for 9 (that's eccleston right?) as the first doctor I saw, but miss tennant soooo much.