The Syndicate

So, big group hug and off to the next? :P
Also official thanks to Rob and the Missus, and everyone who took part in it.

Nevinera wrote:Now I get to die early in 2-3 games again before anyone will believe I'm not mafia >.<

Hardy har har. What am I supposed to say then? You didn't have to fake being insanified or thank people every day for not lynching or NK'ing you.

Hedgeowl wrote:Thank goodness you ended it now Epi! I was having a hard time waiting that long to find out. Well it's official, I have no intuition whatsoever. Since snow dog voted for me, I asked him who he targeted, which was Nev. I misinterpreted his answer as Snow Dog and Nev being civ. Clearly it was just Snow Dog and not Nev too, but after the Night, Snow started to think Nev was good, so I thought he knew for sure. I had not figured out Snows role at this point yet though.

I did not use my secret to full advantage either. First day, no one wanted to vote for noobs, so fail. Then once it picked up everyone lynched llama quick, so seemed more and more tricky to play bad and good. So just went for good.

I beg to differ. You figured out my game with that last post, which I though was absolutely amazing. Unfortunately the PM had been sent prior to it.

Snow Dog wrote:

Lizzy wrote:

Snow Dog wrote:It's a shame I wsn't informed of this lynch failure.

I was convinced you knew we had you figured out since we kept blocking you every other night.

I'm used to being not trusted, thought it was civ one night and you lot the other. But maybe you are right. I was a total failure at this game.

Oh come on! You had me figured out the other night (and before), not to mention the fact that I was this close to going after Rey with this NK because you specifically mentioned that he was a steamy. This NK was suggested by Bullz and Nev agreed. So I almost fell for it as well. No worries, this is how we evolve.

Snow Dog wrote:It's a shame I wsn't informed of this lynch failure.

I was convinced you knew we had you figured out since we kept blocking you every other night.

McViper wrote:I was Henry and took out Bullzeye.... my only good move.

Quite a brilliant move actually. So then Andrew took out Nev?

Snow Dog wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

Snow Dog wrote:How did McViper get scrapped? I don't get it.

Lizzy sent in the PM for McViper to be scrapped on Night 9. I didn't see a reason to wait nine hours to end the game, since there was no guarding against it.

Oh. I was hoping she would go for me.

Awww, we knew who you were for quite some time actually, so no chance. :P

Not bad, pure evil.

But yeah, sorry for being a lying, double-crossing, manipulating, acting like a derp-n00by civ.

Nicely played all, and here's to my less-of-the-above-but-not-so-less team mates!

Man, I now feel like such an idiot. 'Stupid people', you were right, Viper, and I am very sorry for costing us the game. I guess this is what happens when you're a n00b. Sorry again. :\

... skiing, or whatever.

Well, do what you have to do, but I somehow feel like we've got him this time.

Hmmmm... you have a point. But on the other hand we can win it tonight as well, and are you sure no-one will die if it's a tie?

And I will trust you on this one. I've been reading and reading your posts, then Viper's and he's been a suspect for a while so I will vote for the brilliant McAdder, but if he flips civ so help me, Snowy... I need to vote now because I have to go to bed soon.

Very very interesting. So you not being familiar with the badges makes you either a diesel (because I'm not sure they get them) or the only player in the game who is not mechanical, if you catch my drift. Hmmm...

:O Wow! Rip, Owl! I came here so late thinking it I'd be a dead person walking. Hmmm...

I am not in the poll because I got those three badge thingies, although I must say I never thought I'd get to use them.

This is really confusing. I still want to vote for Rey, but Viper appears to be insanified and is pointing at Snowy. Btw, Viper, are you acting? Then Snowy is the only one who has not been targeted before and has been playing pretty aggressively. But then I'm thinking what if Viper is specifically targeting a steamie... The thing is, we can end it all with this lynching. So I'll be thinking carefully. :\

Yeah, I know. We've all been there. :\ But like Owly said, sunny side up for everyone to cheer us up!

There there, Snowy. And sorry for being so harsh. I guess I was trying to get things off my chest, because I couldn't the other day when I felt in danger of being lynched myself. The thing is, it's still weird how even at this point we either have a lot on each other, or got nothing. I know I kept pushing for Rey, but I don't know if it is because he really does seem suspicious, or because of his lack of participation, which may annoy me but of course, it isn't a good reason to vote someone off. I can be very wrong as far as he's concerned, like I've been wrong when I voted others and they got lynched; at the end of the day there's a 25% chance that he's a baddie, like in your case, and Viper and Owl as well, and like in mine for each of you. Maybe we should wait and see if someone gets NK'ed tonight and if they do, who that person is, and then discuss. You've mentioned at one point in regards to Mongoose, that (s)he got scrapped because you or people were sure (s)he was a civ. So at this stage we finally get to SVS's words from the beginning, that everyone's guilty until proven innocent.

Kudos, people! You've done it again!

Snow Dog wrote:I admit I could be wrong. If Ap flips civ then Lizzy must be the final diesel. As sure as eggs is eggs. Would explain her vote for reywas too.

That is some brilliant reasoning right there. The type that has gotten way too many civvies lynched or NK'ed. Because yeah, me as baddie, would definitely single myself out by voting for Rey, with two of the people who were after me not having voted at the time, instead of jumping in and pointing all my fingers at poor AP ( Matt) to save my skin.

Hedgeowl wrote:Seriously? A Person was a NG? Were there no other NGs to warn us!?!

Well gee, I wonder why no-one said anything and tried to warn the other civvies directly...

[/rant] Sorry about that and thanks for not lynching me. You might figure out who it is after I'll most likely get killed tonight.

And for today's breakfast, I'll have my eggs with the sunny side up.

Leave the vacuum between the Thunder and the decision on the tube. Again, and fell asleep.

Vote, but it is similar to kill the King? Jimenez, a biography of the author.

McViper wrote:

Snow Dog wrote:

Lizzy wrote:

Snow Dog wrote:Lizzy are you insanified?

This value is not visible, of course not, of course? But remember like you need to know about the snow.

Ok. I do not believe you are pretending. But A person was.

Snowdog, How do you know AP was pretending? Her excuse sure seemed fake. But give me your reasons again please.

Trying to find the snake care

McViper wrote:

Lizzy wrote:What I think, personally, harp. And if you're waiting for, Lynch can voters right now

Lizzy. are you acting?

I mean, do not choose

What I think, personally, harp. And if you're waiting for, Lynch can voters right now

Snow Dog wrote:Lizzy are you insanified?

This value is not visible, of course not, of course? But remember like you need to know about the snow.

McViper wrote:

Hedgeowl wrote:6 players left. 1 diesel, 5 civs. 3 players (Snow Dog, A Person, Hedgeowl) have been insanified at some point in the game. 3 players (Lizzy, McViper, reywaS) have never been insanified.

While a diesel could fake being insanified, we know they can't officially self target. If this reasoning works, then we are looking for our diesel amongst Lizzy, McViper, and reywaS. It'd be great to see posts today from everyone, especially if someone would like to post a rambling nonsensical diatribe to help clear their name.

Hosts - Are powers provided like biff and bash required to be used every day or can they be skipped?

I have thought about reywaS as a baddie...(he didn't really vote much) But maybe we all should focus on Lizzy per the Llama Gambit.

Die diesel HP Loc giraffe now I can protect yourself! :\

Honestly, Rey! Like I said the other day: he's been flying below the radar quite a bit, Krissy turned out to be a diesel without being here most of the time, or at least visible in the poll voting/discussions; and not having to do with him being a suspect or not, but his lack of participation is not fair towards the rest of us who have been constantly pointing paranoiac fingers at each other since the game started. :P I mean, when I could not participate in the poll voting or discussions on the board because I was busy with my thesis, I made that clear.

But you still haven't answered my question, Snowy. :P

Also, dirty socks are brilliant for practical jokes. I should know... :P

RIP DH, but I too got some really strong baddie vibes from you, and if I hadn't noticed Rey's constant absence, I think I might have voted for you as well. :\

Anyway, I am also very curious as to why Snowy considers me a suspect. I did not want to bring this up yesterday because I noticed that if you are targeted for lynching and a trend is set, whatever arguments you try to bring in your favour, they do not seem to work. But with the NK since I am a target like all the rest, which is something I cannot control, I'll just hope to make it through the night even with giving my two cents if I have to.

I don't know why, but this looks pretty surreal.

Anyway, I have a few people to whom I'll give the benefit of the doubt for now: Owl, Mongoose and to a certain extent, A Person. The rest, not so sure. On this occasion I will apply the logic I used to vote for Krissy, which had proven to be right: I'll vote for reywas, because he (or she?) has been flying below the radar since the game started and rarely voted in whatever polls we had, plus I think I've seen him the other day online but still failed to vote. It could have easily been just to nominate the next diesel kill (btw, Andrew). So while I find this behaviour not fair towards those who participated in the game, it also seems extremely fishy.

Although I absolutely loathe conforming, this time I'll make an exception because I LOVE DUCK! Nom!

Holy schnitzel on a shtick! So that would mean we still have one to go! Excellent reasoning or guessing, whatever it was, from the player who did the switching!

Hedgeowl wrote:

McViper wrote:

Hedgeowl wrote:Whoa, I leave for the afternoon and things get crazy! I had started to trust Nev, big mistake there. Now I am a little bit at a loss as who to look at next.

I guess we can start by looking at who voted for DH

You mean Lizzy, You, and Me? those who advocated and supported voting for Krissy as a baddie?

Also, its Friday so we need a party

Hear hear! But then again, we can always grant Viper his/her wish. So we look at who voted for DH now, and then we look at who voted for me last time. And what do we see? DH, the now uncovered Diesel more or less subtly protecting their team mate and the common denominator. So not sure if Viper still wants to go along with this.

This strikes me as far too similar to Llama's approach when he turned out to be one of the civvies. So if you'll excuse me, I'm not going to jump on this bandwagon.

I am surprised people have already forgotten the last lynching and those who have not voted for Krissy. I've been meaning to vote for DH for quite some time, so here's my opportunity.

Hey hey, how are you lot? I'm finally done with pretty much everything thesis related, so now I'm back in the game! W00t! Also, if anyone is interested in power-sharing failure in Cyprus at the beginning of the 60s, you know where to find me. :P

Now back to business.

What is this, I don't even... I can't believe you guys almost lynched me instead of a Diesel. (which I have successfully pointed out at one point, although I suppose it was more of a lucky guess ).

Anyway, for those who have not voted for or dare I say, even possibly protected the baddie, I'm watching you. (uhm, that'd be just watching, so... let me live? pretty please )

As for the poll, I have no idea why everyone is going for Jack, but I quite fancy bulldozers me.

(I'm starting to enjoy these smileys quite a bit)

Muhahaha! Diesel down! Rest in pieces! Sorry! :P

I'm going with Al Jazeera because I've been watching it yesterday. Hope Turkey will make it out of this.

Hey guys! I noticed I didn't get killed last night, so wooo! Is the poll closed, because i just finished defending my thesis, and didn't know when the deadline was. I'm also on a pretty crap phone. Woo! I'll try to catch up though.

Just quickly popped in to vote. I see all proggies went with Tull, as we should. Yay!
I'm off to Sweden for a few days, and not sure what my Internet access will be, but I'll make sure to check in at least once a day if there any polls.

First off, RIP Russti. I was quite surprised, to be honest. I suspect you were one of civvies, unless again, stuff happens that I have no idea about. :\

I keep reading and re-reading and still all players seem to be on the same boat. I wanted to go with DH from last time, but you guys appear to know each other better, so of course now I'm now getting some bad vibes from Nevinera, DP, even Bullz since everyone seems to be jumping on that bandwagon. Again, I'll be keeping an eye on you guys, but right now, I'll have to vote for someone who has not been around at all, which makes me wonder, and the chances of her being a baddie are just as high as everyone else's.

I'm voting Krissy.

Nevinera wrote:

Lizzy wrote:Now I feel awful! But darn it, Llama! ...experimenting when there are so many newbies. :\

Also, do these polls actually do something? I guess I'll go with 15 because it's closest to the mean of the first 5 options.

They do something, yes. I had an outcome from the first one and not the last one. Mildly beneficial, no info.

Oh! I had no idea. It's really frustrating when you are absolutely clueless of what's going on around you, but there are others who seem to know more than the rest of us. And at the end of the day you still vote at random, even though you're desperately trying to look for clues in what people are saying or how they are voting. :\

Now I feel awful! But darn it, Llama! ...experimenting when there are so many newbies. :\

Also, do these polls actually do something? I guess I'll go with 15 because it's closest to the mean of the first 5 options.

I accidentally a word. :\

thellama73 wrote:

Lizzy wrote:

thellama73 wrote:

Lizzy wrote:I'll go with my gut feeling, since this is how it's done. Normally I would have chosen DH for rushing to vote 'goats' and because the baddies apparently can target one of their own. However, because DH has been absolutely hilarious today and cannot defend him/herself, I'm going with Llama, because the two of them seem to be on the same team. See the goats. I'm still keeping an eye on DH.

Why do you think DH and I are o the same team? He is funny, and the target of a baddie, so I hope he is on my team, but I don't know. If you know, I would appreciate you telling me.

With baddies being able to target one of their own in order to draw people's attention away from that player, assuming DH is in that situation, and you are on his team, that would make you a baddie. But these are just assumptions. I just found it odd the other day when you two rushed to vote for goats. I may be mistaken, of course. Plus your choice of avi, while I absolutely love it, makes you seem evil as well. :P

So you're assuming I'm bad because DH is on my team, and you're assuming DH is on my team because he was targeted and you're assuming he was targeted because he was bad and you're assuming he is bad because he's on my team and you are assuming he's on my team because I'm bad? Is that right?

Correctamundo. Don't be hatin' on of my super awesome assumption skills.

thellama73 wrote:

Lizzy wrote:I'll go with my gut feeling, since this is how it's done. Normally I would have chosen DH for rushing to vote 'goats' and because the baddies apparently can target one of their own. However, because DH has been absolutely hilarious today and cannot defend him/herself, I'm going with Llama, because the two of them seem to be on the same team. See the goats. I'm still keeping an eye on DH.

Why do you think DH and I are o the same team? He is funny, and the target of a baddie, so I hope he is on my team, but I don't know. If you know, I would appreciate you telling me.

With baddies being able to target one of their own in order to draw people's attention away from that player, assuming DH is in that situation, and you are on his team, that would make you a baddie. But these are just assumptions. I just found it odd the other day when you two rushed to vote for goats. I may be mistaken, of course. Plus your choice of avi, while I absolutely love it, makes you seem evil as well. :P

I'll go with my gut feeling, since this is how it's done. Normally I would have chosen DH for rushing to vote 'goats' and because the baddies apparently can target one of their own. However, because DH has been absolutely hilarious today and cannot defend him/herself, I'm going with Llama, because the two of them seem to be on the same team. See the goats. I'm still keeping an eye on DH.

DH, I love you so much at this point, you have no idea.

I needed a good laugh after reading about the Rwandan genocide. Ugh.

Bullzeye wrote:

thellama73 wrote:

Snow Dog wrote:What's this about the pig voters?

All four votes for Pigs came from people who missed the previous lynch vote. I have a crazy conspiracy theory that these people had some info on the poll, and I think that indicates baddieness.

Let me get this straight. Your theory is that all the baddies missed a lynch vote, and to reward them for this Epi gave them info on the best poll option for them to choose? That does sound crazy.

But if it is possible... Has this happened before?

RIP SVS

So, being pretty much new to the game, and reading people's posts, and since apparently the baddies are no strangers to targeting their own and since SVS's identity has not been revealed, is there a possibility that she was one of them? Also, I still don't understand how the voting in the previous poll could tell whether or not we are dealing with baddies. If I were to find anything suspicious related to this, it's not the pig voting folk, but rather how Llama and DH both rushed to vote for goats almost simultaneously. Then there is DH being biffed. That does not mean it's not a coincidence. So, because we're still quite a few, I'm sticking to my 'innocent till proven guilty' approach.

And, as for not voting in the lynch last time, that was just me being an idiot and thinking I still had a couple of hours left. As you might have noticed, the polls closed just as I was about to vote. So I take the blame for this entirely. Won't happen again.

I friggin' love horsies! ^__^ And off to bed for real!
Cheerio!

Poor Boogy! We'll get them next time.

So I suppose it's less not very constructive talking, more voting for me next time. :P Alas! I guess I'll stay up a bit longer till we get the results.

Oi! I didn't get the chance to vote. :O

I suck at this! :P So until I gain more experience, on this very first day I shall vote at random. After this, I'll stop whining (I think). That being said, sorries, Davidwithteeth. Big hug!

And off to bed! Take care lads and lasses!