The Syndicate

MovingPictures07 wrote:Oh, LOL, Lizzy, I meant to say why MR died in that post too but trailed off due to multiple quotes. My bad.

MR died because he entered 3 warp zones. The warp zones were heavily stacked in the civvies' favor, in theory (except for the fact that they could block each other or take each other's lives away if misguided), so I made a mechanism so that a player would automatically die after their third warp zone (see: the warp zones section).

Hah! I thought it must've been a warp zone overdose, although I kept sending him there to collect intelligence... and to chill until I'd find a decent reason to stop voting for him. :P Sorry, mate!

Oh! How could I forget my short-lived BTSC buddy, MR? I thought our pairing was brilliant! Why did he die btw?

Epignosis wrote:

Lizzy wrote:I have a cvestion: how on earth can you type that fast? Dayum!

When I Hosted I kept notes as I went.

Yep, I figured. Still pretty impressive.

I have a cvestion: how on earth can you type that fast? Dayum!

A Person wrote:

Lizzy wrote:Also, thank you to all who died in an attempt to save me. I'm deeply touched.

I guess I didn't mind dying then.

Finally! Excellent game, baddies! It was pretty impossible for you guys to lose.

Also, thank you to all who died in an attempt to save me. I'm deeply touched.

More confusion huzzah! INH voting for me makes me have second thoughts about him... If that was the purpose, it worked. Then there's Russti - the cleanest looking of us all, with barely any votes, who really has no reason not to suspect me at this point, and who, despite the super civ aura he had throughout the game, has not been targeted yet, or not that we know of. So yus, he could be bad. Butt that would make me very sad. Gah! I hate this game!

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO...OOOOOOOo

butt I was right for once in this game.

So yus, back to business. (also, are there less than 4 baddies?)

Yes, because everyone piling up on Matt who already has quite a fair share of votes definitely means he's bad. If either Russti or Goosey are civ, please do not vote for Matt AP k. I mean, look at INH's post. He's not even trying anymore. ;P

I was going to randomise, but then I decided to go with Matt's option because it's pretty much the same thing, only less effort involved.

A Person wrote:

Lizzy wrote:NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Hear ye! Hear ye! I'm now addressing the one or two remaining civs k: I strongly advise you not to vote for Matt AP k. I know I've screwed up big time and this is by far my worst game to date, butt if I'm 80% sure someone is innocent, then Matt is that someone. Although I really want the baddies to win this because they've been brilliant (oh btw, sorry), I'd feel bad if Matt gets lynched.

If I am wrong about him too, I'll stop playing altogether for a loooong long time.

Oi Devin!

At this point it would be easy for them to kill me, if they all voted for me I'd probably die. I don't think the game will last much longer.

Well, we do have a pretty similar voting record which means we were both carp and deserve to die.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Hear ye! Hear ye! I'm now addressing the one or two remaining civs k: I strongly advise you not to vote for Matt AP k. I know I've screwed up big time and this is by far my worst game to date, butt if I'm 80% sure someone is innocent, then Matt is that someone. Although I really want the baddies to win this because they've been brilliant (oh btw, sorry), I'd feel bad if Matt gets lynched.

If I am wrong about him too, I'll stop playing altogether for a loooong long time.

Oi Devin!

A Person wrote:

Lizzy wrote:

tyre

WTF

CHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGE k

Also, happy turkey day!

Vompatti wrote:

Mongoose wrote:Vomperdoodle, you seem like you might be a bit shady. Are you a sketchy, shirty beast sent to break out hearts in the saddest fashion?

I wish.

ture

I'm glad Hedgie was brought up yet again. Although, given my brilliant sleuth skills this game, she might just as well be civ.

JA (skål)

If Vomps isn't Dr Fetus, I''ll be a very sad Lizzy.

I've been wondering if that actually happened when there was no race at level 3. :O

I must say, this is one awesome baddie team. I'm impressed! Wish I were part of it...

Although I've been eyeing DP for a while, I'd feel bad about voting Llama now that he just got back. To the BWT express.

Now then , now then; on which bandwagon should I jump?

Decisions, decisions...

It does look like an interesting pattern, butt would they really be that obvious? I know when I was bad I tried my best not to vote for the same people my teammates did; or I rarely hesitated to throw on or two under the bus for credibility, so it was not only about lynching civs. This is why I rarely take votes into consideration. But then again, maybe not many play like that, and this might just be the case. They do look suspicious, but for the same reason the two of them always do. I sometimes don't even realise DP is playing. I dunno k, butt I see my buddy has disappeared yet again from the poll, along with another sneaky one and Russti.

Matt - TURE :A

ho this looks like a good idea

omgkogmo this is so exciting i don't eveneen know where to start k

Since the only thing dying here is the thread, who wants to join me in creating some chaos - all in the loving memory of Llama man?

A Person wrote:

Lizzy wrote:Matt, you're a woman???? All these years were a lie then?

I'm sorry that I've had to lie for so long. Can you ever forgive me?

Imma gonna have to think abaout it k

@ Goosey - I guess we'll see. :O

- actually mine is better

I'll go with Boomslang and see if 10 votes are enough to lynch him if he's a baddie k

Since Llama man had only 15 lives, Fetus man is basically safe at least until we get to level 6, the baddies can kill at night (sometimes :P), then in order for the game to be balanced, shouldn't they have around 10 lives per baddie?

I'm talking about my main suspect, of course - Mister Rearranger.

Well well well, look who's conveniently off the poll and silenced apparently yet again.

Mister Rearranger wrote:
I didn't think any statement could have less than 0% logic to it, but there ya go.

Why would I need to be familiar with the players (I've played with Mongoose at least once before this, iirc) to understand their back-and-forth in THIS thread and the possible circumstances of one baddie role killing one of those players?

And obviously you're not familiar with my playstyle, so why assume anything about me or the way I want to play the game?

Russ did seem to find agreement with you pretty quickly though. Perhaps you are more persuasive than I give you credit for.

Well, some players are more familiar with each other in the sense that some are irl acquaintances, friends etc. Besides the content of your statement, the tone of certainty also gave you away.

And, in case you haven't noticed, none of the above has anything to do with your playing style, just a post and a series of replies that you've made.

Hedgeowl wrote:
I somehow missed this theory of yours before, but it does make me wonder. Does that make you not suspect llama, but rather someone who is framing him and filled MR in on the deets?

I did and still do suspect Llama, but this was another reason why I thought Nev was involved. If Llama is indeed behind it, then he's probably the Doc and it's no use voting for him.:\

I am a bit at a loss who to vote for currently, but we have several other players I hope to hear from soon. I am just not sure about the jiggy bandwagon, but it does looks like we would get info there. I tend to beleive him currently though.

I don't know either. You could be an option, Vomps is not very into it, DP as well... Not sure. I may resort to the self vote of shame on this occasion.

Russtifinko wrote:Lizzy, why do you suspect MR? I was thinking about him (and you, for that matter) for your Hedgeowl votes the other day. I haven't played with him before though, so I don't have a confident read on him yet. I may have missed it in my reread, but what about him caught your eye?

Ugh! I've said this over and over again: I think he slipped.

Mister Rearranger wrote:

Lizzy wrote:Then he decided to sacrifice Goosey to cover his tracks... or maybe someone is framing him, or... maybe it's just a coincidence.

As soon as I saw the Night 2 kill, my first thought was that CHAD was framing him, tbh.

How can someone who has only recently registered on the board know about Llama and Mongoose, and thus the possibility of Llama being framed when Goosey was NK'd on night 2, unless someone has been telling him about in the chat?

His reply, of course, less than satisfactory:

I put in work, read the thread, and came to a conclusion as most people do when they play...?

Yeah, right!

... who is not on the poll today.

Matahari wrote:Something I don't understand, Lizzy- (maybe its a video game thing) wasn't nev killed by chad? Does chad kill members of his own team?

So long as he doesn't target the Doc, I suspect it is possible. Not very likely though.

Bandwagoning on Jiggy, I see. Fine, I don't why just yet. However, if he's a civ, I assume it might take a few days to lynch him. In the mean time, I'll go with what I have at the moment - MR.

I'm impressed, but at the same time quite annoyed. Why? Besides the illusory correlation, which I suppose is proven by the result of the NK, this is one of those rare occasions where I'm experiencing cognitive dissonance and quite a bit of a backfire effect. I refuse to believe that someone as intelligent as Nev would make such a poor excuse for voting for me, especially in that particular context, not to mention the nature of his replies. I'm sure there are better reasons for suspecting me, but not because I'm serious and make on topic posts. Come on! I'm rarely serious in a game, but this is your lucky day. So, with the backfire effect in mind, unless he's not rezzed, he's still bad in my book. Thanks a lot, baddies. It's like when I'm drunk - I do realise that I turn into a wobbly nonsensical posh person and I also realise just how ridiculous that looks, yet I still have no control over my behaviour. :\

Tl;dr - I suck at this.

Nevinera wrote:

Lizzy wrote: Rawrrrr grrrrarrrr garrrrgle gargle... said Lizzy... trying to blend in.
Now back to business: so, uncharacteristically serious and aggressive, eh? says my first partner in crime on this board. You should know better than most what my behaviour both on the board and in the chat is like when bad. So tell me, Nev, did I hit a nerve? Who are you trying to protect? Dr Llama? Elo? Hedgie? our new friend MR?

I remember how you played that game, yes. You were quiet and serious, and not silly.
Unlike in every game since. I'm actually getting more convinced now that I made a good vote!
I think you played crazy every game since as a reaction to the complete lack of information civs always have to play in..
And you seem pretty not-crazy now.

Cool! So basically what I'm saying makes sense. Cheers for confirming it! My lack of information would have continued if it hadn't been for MR's little slip that still seems to go unnoticed and naturally, your quick jump at my throat when I called him out only 10 minutes after my post. What happened? Panic in the chat? If that was plan: killing Rob, then helping Dr Llama cover his tracks by NK'ing Goosey, or framing him according to your teammate (this depends on whether he's on your team or not), then only you and/or Llama could have come up with it. Nois. That being said, uhm... you could not kill me tonight even though I may vote for you or MR tomorrow?

Mister Rearranger wrote:

Epignosis wrote: Hedgeowl was the third voter for Devin. That is hardly what I would call a bandwagon. Three people? Please. If that were the case, then I suppose the Day 2 vote against Hedgeowl was a real lulu!

It was one because I saw no reason to vote for one to vote for Devin that day, unless it was randomised, or given at least some sort of justification. Nev seems to have escaped my watch that day. But no worries. I'm onto him. Also, it was that exchange that made me consider Hedgie in the first place at that time, not the bandwagoning itself (notice how I did not bring Elo into discussion that day). But yeah, she's bandwagoning, she twists people's posts, she gives me a few no u's and I'm the bad guy. Makes sense. Someone's getting old.

Also, I'm surprised at how many people take me seriously.

@ MR - Oh! I'm terribly sorry! I did not realise... *turns away*

Mister Rearranger wrote:

Lizzy wrote:
So this caveat has lost your interest, I take it?:

Besides Llama and Hedgie, I have Elo left. So unless she decides to stop being evasive, and give a reasonable reply to my post, I'll be voting for her today.

Kinda. For now anyway. Butt, if I were you, I'd thank me - I now have a bullseye on my forehead, which means not so much attention on you guys. Know how you can thank me? No NK for yours turely.

Epignosis wrote:I'm going to vote Lizzy too.

Care to explain why?

Nevinera wrote:Bah, there's nobody I even want to vote for! I feel like lizzy is being uncharacteristically serious and aggressive, which makes me think maybe she's got a chatroom to be silly in? That's all I've got. I still really don't think Llama's bad. Though I guess we'll see soon, probably.

Votes Lizzy

Rawrrrr grrrrarrrr garrrrgle gargle... said Lizzy... trying to blend in.
Now back to business: so, uncharacteristically serious and aggressive, eh? says my first partner in crime on this board. You should know better than most what my behaviour both on the board and in the chat is like when bad. So tell me, Nev, did I hit a nerve? Who are you trying to protect? Dr Llama? Elo? Hedgie? our new friend MR?

@ Elo - this, please.
http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 444#p42444

MR wrote:I put in work, read the thread, and came to a conclusion as most people do when they play...?

Ahaaaa... well then, I suppose you won't mind if I cast a vote your way. You know, just in case.

Mister Rearranger wrote:

Lizzy wrote:Then he decided to sacrifice Goosey to cover his tracks... or maybe someone is framing him, or... maybe it's just a coincidence.

As soon as I saw the Night 2 kill, my first thought was that CHAD was framing him, tbh.

Oh did you? How come? ...and how are you familiar with the dynamics between the two since you've only recently joined the site? ... unless someone in your chat has been filling you in.

Epignosis wrote:
Since I think you're the doctor, I won't be voting you either.

He's either the doc, or Bondage Gril or just someone with a myriad of lives who can experiment all he likes because it is in the baddies' interest to keep him alive. Also, I must admit that when you were NK'd (I know why you'd normally make the top of a 'to kill' list, but even I thought that it was too early in the game for them to get rid of you) the first person that sprung to mind who'd go with it, was Llama - maybe because of a potential personal vendetta from a previous game. Then he decided to sacrifice Goosey to cover his tracks... or maybe someone is framing him, or... maybe it's just a coincidence.

Besides Llama and Hedgie, I have Elo left. So unless she decides to stop being evasive, and give a reasonable reply to my post, I'll be voting for her today.

Elohcin wrote:
I think we ought to vote A Person.

A Person wrote:I like Llama's idea so in an effort to further it (and to make the poll graphs look more even) I vote for him.

First ping. I believe it was pointed out several times that llama's plan was not beneficial for civies.

I believe three quarters of that post should have been in orange.

A Person wrote:I agree, appearing/claiming to be civ only restricts what you can do and paints a target on your head. I also agree with Lizzy, though. :P

Second ping. How does this paint a target on your head when the baddies already know you are civ.

1. Appearing 'too civ' is often associated with being not a civ. See American Gods: Persephone, Vesta, Ceres. This may lead to votes for said person.
2. Being validated by the thread as a civ means you're of no use for the baddies anymore, so they'll kill you.

The third reason I would vote AP is is overall tone. He gives me baddie vibes . And, after rereading him, I am thinking he is a little too buddy buddy with llama for my liking. Maybe llama has pulled the wool over my eyes. Maybe he really meant it when he came up with the idea to spread out the votes...then when most people jumped on him for it, he claimed to have said it only to get a reaction. I know I seem to be flip-flopping, but after the reread, I am thinking both AP and Llama are not so good.

I made a post where I said that if I hadn't been silenced, I would have suggested a 16-way tie myself. Why am I not suspicious? That being said, there's a fair chance Llama is bad.

Also, you haven't addressed my inquiry except for the part where you immediately started to point fingers at AP.

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